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2009-11-26 04:02:29 PM
Those were some seriously amazing photos.
 
2009-11-26 04:22:43 PM
Outstanding. Green it.
 
2009-11-26 04:33:31 PM
I wish them and the Afghani people the best. I hope they come home soon.
 
2009-11-26 05:13:07 PM
This deserves a green on Thanksgiving, or any other day.

Thank you troops!
 
2009-11-26 05:40:32 PM
Thankful why?
 
2009-11-26 05:49:22 PM
Afghanistan looks a lot more peaceful now than it has during most of my life. Much of the strife now is financed with drug smuggling money care of the drug war. If people really knew how much this all cost they would want our troops back immediately. Stop it with the conservative posturing and bone up on Just War Theory before we end up overseas for no reason again.
 
2009-11-26 05:55:30 PM
Great pictures. I didn't need them too think of the people involved in war.

Sorry for them. Hope they all get home safe and sound.
 
2009-11-26 07:02:48 PM
They also make me want to play Call Of Duty MW2
 
2009-11-26 07:09:25 PM
I'm thankful for soldiers.
I'm also thankful for the guy working at the gas station that sold me a case of beer this morning. Where's his salute?
 
2009-11-26 07:24:20 PM
You_mean_Im_gonna_stay_this_color: Thankful why?

Gonna pretend you didn't say that.
 
2009-11-26 07:25:06 PM
Hats off to the soldiers.

Also, just a head up on the 2nd NSFW pic. It's really really really really really really not safe for anything really. It's like, on 4chan level on the gore-o-meter.
 
2009-11-26 07:25:16 PM
Damn. War is ugly.

Next time let's not, okay?
 
2009-11-26 07:26:04 PM
Once again, these images are fantastic and truly give a human feel to the war-- be it for better or worse. While some are emotional heart-wrenchers, #28 is particularly disturbing.
 
2009-11-26 07:26:40 PM
RagingLeonard: I'm thankful for soldiers.
I'm also thankful for the guy working at the gas station that sold me a case of beer this morning. Where's his salute?


real american heroes?
 
2009-11-26 07:27:26 PM
m0llusk: Stop it with the conservative posturing and bone up on Just War Theory before we end up overseas for no reason again.

Uhhh ... makes sense.
 
2009-11-26 07:27:56 PM
Damn.

I spent a Thanksgiving in Iraq, which I thought was pretty crazy, but Afghanistan seems like another planet. I really wish these guys could be home.
 
2009-11-26 07:30:20 PM
ArtosRC: Once again, these images are fantastic and truly give a human feel to the war-- be it for better or worse. While some are emotional heart-wrenchers, #28 is particularly disturbing.

Really? I get that it's gory, but the most chilling images to me are #37 and #41.
 
2009-11-26 07:31:42 PM
Gyrfalcon: You_mean_Im_gonna_stay_this_color: Thankful why?

Gonna pretend you didn't say that.


Why are we there again?
 
2009-11-26 07:32:13 PM
#2 - Apparently giant goldfish float thru the sky in Afghanistan.

#5 - You might want to run
 
2009-11-26 07:32:46 PM
Farker T: Damn. War is ugly.

Next time let's not, okay?


I know, right? It's always better to bury our heads in the sand and pretend like nothing bad happens outside of the USA.
 
2009-11-26 07:33:05 PM
In that last pic, who's army has the Russian chopper? The Afghan army?
 
2009-11-26 07:33:16 PM
Gyrfalcon: You_mean_Im_gonna_stay_this_color: Thankful why?

Gonna pretend you didn't say that.


Thankful because they're defending my country?
No, they're not. In fact they're as likely imperiling it.


/You don't owe the troops thanks, you owe them an apology.
 
2009-11-26 07:33:29 PM
Farker T: Why are we there again?

Good news! You're not.
 
2009-11-26 07:34:25 PM
Can someone please explain the patch on this man's jacket?

A magnet, what appears to be a steaming pile of shiat, and the letters "A POS", which I'm reading as "A Piece of shiat". WTF?

img204.imageshack.us

/Hot like Afghanistan
 
2009-11-26 07:34:53 PM
Savages! We should just nuke Afghanistan.

And before you tell me about the innocents who are simply victims of Taliban oppression I say that they didn't do their duty to overthrow the despots and if there really are too few to overthrow them then death by a single nuclear strike should be preferable to the kind of punishment the Taliban would dole out.

We've tried giving shiatloads of money to these people - they responded with terrorism. Now it is time to kill them mercilessly. It's the kind of "hope and change" we need in this world. It's the only way to stop torture, suffering and death.
 
2009-11-26 07:35:50 PM
Deruke: Can someone please explain the patch on this man's jacket?

Soldiers sometimes bleed.
 
2009-11-26 07:36:16 PM
I'd rather these soldiers be home with their families instead of trying to establish democracy with these unappreciative goat farkers who change their alliances more often than they wipe their ass with anything other than left hand

Fight the war with drones. When they get out of hand blow them up. Screw the ground war.
 
2009-11-26 07:36:42 PM
Deruke: Can someone please explain the patch on this man's jacket?

A magnet, what appears to be a steaming pile of shiat, and the letters "A POS", which I'm reading as "A Piece of shiat". WTF?

/Hot like Afghanistan


They're unrelated.shiat Magnet = The guy in the platoon who inexplicably draws the most fire.

A POS = Blood type.
 
2009-11-26 07:37:08 PM
Someone remind me what the fark we are doing in that shiathole again

.
 
2009-11-26 07:37:54 PM
Deruke: Can someone please explain the patch on this man's jacket?

Blood type A-positive. No idea what the shiat has to do with anything.
 
2009-11-26 07:38:13 PM
mud_shark: I say that they didn't do their duty to overthrow the despots

Same thing could be said about us.
 
2009-11-26 07:39:29 PM
inapcache.boston.com

the thing in the middle left of the picture....
what the fark is that?

it looks like something that has a round body and 'tailfins'.
like a fake plastic fish.
or a very very very oddly shaped missle or something.

/see the one in the article for bigger.
 
2009-11-26 07:41:15 PM
Those were pretty good. Generally when I see a picture I just think it's a picture, but alot of those had some heavy symbolism and ability to invoke emotion. Gotta buy lunch for the next guy in fatigues I see...
 
2009-11-26 07:41:25 PM
Farker T: mud_shark: I say that they didn't do their duty to overthrow the despots

Same thing could be said about us.


Not likely - how often do we throw stones at women until they are dead for showing their ankles in public?

And on those rare occasions when we do execute people at least there is a public record of the trial and we allow for multiple appeals.

No, the same cannot be said about us.
 
2009-11-26 07:41:36 PM
Third_Uncle_Eno: the thing in the middle left of the picture....
what the fark is that?

it looks like something that has a round body and 'tailfins'.
like a fake plastic fish.
or a very very very oddly shaped missle or something.

/see the one in the article for bigger.


A surveillance blimp. Stick a bunch of cameras on it, Infra-red, etc. Float up the blimp.

livefrombaghdad.files.wordpress.com
 
2009-11-26 07:42:12 PM
#19 is my co-worker's brother's funeral.

His sister had burst into our office, screaming, looking for Mark (my coworker). I ran out of my office, wondering what the commotion was.

Mark is still off work on leave.

I can only imagine what it is like to find out about losing your sibling that way.

Also shocked a picture of his funeral made it to the Boston Globe.
 
2009-11-26 07:42:48 PM
does a piece of that man's bag have a tag with the words
"A POS" [a piece of sh*t] and a drawing of poop with stink lines coming off it?

WTF??
was that pic photoshopped?

is that for *real* ?
wonder what he did to deserve *that* tag?
 
2009-11-26 07:43:47 PM
Awesome link subby, very nice.
 
2009-11-26 07:43:50 PM
Sgt Otter:
They're unrelated.shiat Magnet = The guy in the platoon who inexplicably draws the most fire.

A POS = Blood type.

Thanks! That's actually pretty funny.. The shiat magnet part, not the bleeding part.

And another thanks goes to all the brave men and women in the military doing the necessary stuff I'm too chickenshiat to ever do
 
2009-11-26 07:44:00 PM
since the pic couldn't be put up here, i meant regarding picture 17
 
2009-11-26 07:44:45 PM
Third_Uncle_Eno: the thing in the middle left of the picture....
what the fark is that?

it looks like something that has a round body and 'tailfins'.
like a fake plastic fish.
or a very very very oddly shaped missle or something.

/see the one in the article for bigger.


NEMACYSTS!
static.gamesradar.com
 
2009-11-26 07:45:06 PM
Farker T: mud_shark: I say that they didn't do their duty to overthrow the despots

Same thing could be said about us.


so true. so very true.
 
2009-11-26 07:45:38 PM
I see this (new window)

And I thought of this:

i5.photobucket.com
 
2009-11-26 07:46:02 PM
Oh nvm.
I found the answer in the thread already.
thanks guys.

and thanks sgt. otter
 
2009-11-26 07:46:37 PM
mud_shark: Farker T: mud_shark: I say that they didn't do their duty to overthrow the despots

Same thing could be said about us.

Not likely - how often do we throw stones at women until they are dead for showing their ankles in public?

And on those rare occasions when we do execute people at least there is a public record of the trial and we allow for multiple appeals.

No, the same cannot be said about us.


So we're there to save ankle bearers being stoned?

Perfect.
 
2009-11-26 07:48:59 PM
fark it...bring 'em home.
/No more
//No more....
///No more!
 
2009-11-26 07:49:53 PM
Hmmm why is there a picture of the Taliban, of course all hiding their faces like cowards, in there?
 
2009-11-26 07:50:07 PM
What makes these pictures even more sad is that all of that bombing, fighting, and destruction was brought upon us on false premises and ideology that so far has killed way way to many people. These pictures shouldn't even exist if we took a different time line. So many needless lives wasted both in giving us this "tradition" we call Thanksgiving and this almost endless nation building we seem to be doing.

/amazing photos
 
2009-11-26 07:50:16 PM
Third_Uncle_Eno: does a piece of that man's bag have a tag with the words
"A POS" [a piece of sh*t] and a drawing of poop with stink lines coming off it?

WTF??
was that pic photoshopped?

is that for *real* ?
wonder what he did to deserve *that* tag?



Buy your very own shiat Magnet patch:
Link (new window)

My guess? He's probably been in that same spot, watching the same thing happen many times before.
 
2009-11-26 07:51:33 PM
I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: Farker T: mud_shark: I say that they didn't do their duty to overthrow the despots

Same thing could be said about us.

so true. so very true.


Do you feel oppressed? Do you think living in the US is even remotely comparable to living in Afghanistan at any point in history?

I don't like our politicians either, but given a choice between US politicians and Taliban religious zealots, I don't think there's any comparison.

Feel free to expound on your thoughts though
 
2009-11-26 07:52:05 PM
Make a decision, Obama. Shiat or get off the pot.
Bring them home, now.
 
2009-11-26 07:52:51 PM
Thanks for killing people your leaders point at.
 
2009-11-26 07:53:01 PM
I don't know if this is anywhere related, but here goes.

I know everyone loves to hear war stories (I know I do), especially from the old-timer vets from WW2, but, what about the stories not of the soldiers, but from the medics?.

One thing is to the balls to go there guns blaxing, but I'm pretty sure it takes a special kind of man to jump into the firefight with nothing but a sidearm and your kit, just to retrieve a fallen soldier.
 
2009-11-26 07:53:46 PM
guns blazing.

Damn.
 
2009-11-26 07:54:20 PM
TheGhostofFarkPast: These pictures shouldn't even exist if we took a different time line.

Do tell us about this alternate "time line"!
 
2009-11-26 07:54:47 PM
AppleOptionEsc: Hats off to the soldiers.

Also, just a head up on the 2nd NSFW pic. It's really really really really really really not safe for anything really. It's like, on 4chan level on the gore-o-meter.


I guess I'm pretty desensitized. The first thing I noticed is that he's wearing U.S.-issue Belleville desert boots.
 
2009-11-26 07:55:21 PM
glass parking lot, peeps. A big farking glass parking lot, and then we go to a bar and down a few brewskies!
 
2009-11-26 07:56:09 PM
Failing_Junk: Thanks for killing people your leaders point at.

I'm thankful this Thanksgiving for people with insights like this. You're the people bringing the real value to the table.
 
2009-11-26 07:56:37 PM
MPOM: TheGhostofFarkPast: These pictures shouldn't even exist if we took a different time line.

Do tell us about this alternate "time line"!


Chill out guys, I know Sliders was an awesome t.v. show, but don't take it literally.
 
2009-11-26 07:56:38 PM
#41.
 
2009-11-26 07:56:40 PM
Sgt Otter: Damn.

I spent a Thanksgiving in Iraq, which I thought was pretty crazy, but Afghanistan seems like another planet. I really wish these guys could be home.


What can any of us do about that? Over there or overseas supportive civilians?
 
2009-11-26 07:56:44 PM
CygnusDarius: I don't know if this is anywhere related, but here goes.

I know everyone loves to hear war stories (I know I do), especially from the old-timer vets from WW2, but, what about the stories not of the soldiers, but from the medics?.

One thing is to the balls to go there guns blaxing, but I'm pretty sure it takes a special kind of man to jump into the firefight with nothing but a sidearm and your kit, just to retrieve a fallen soldier.


Amen. I fellow I used to know became a Navy medic (they go in with the Marines)... takes some serious cojones.
 
2009-11-26 07:57:54 PM
haha FARK USA
 
2009-11-26 08:01:11 PM
Quite honestly, the internet gives us the strength (or more accurately, the supposed strength) to laugh, snark, or give any sort of bad comment to anyone.

Take any farker, any farker, and show this in real life. Regardless of political, religious, or what have you upbringing, the censored images will scar you for life, if you are the witness to it.
Truth be told, war is hell. It ain't natural, but it happens. Be it right or wrong, war should be done with quick, and hope to never repeat it again.

We were not meant to die this way, in conflict. Otherwise, our physiology would be different.
 
2009-11-26 08:01:19 PM
MPOM: I'm thankful this Thanksgiving for people with insights like this. You're the people bringing the real value to the table.

Truth hurts?
 
2009-11-26 08:01:32 PM
devilhunterx: haha FARK USA

Great name. Great comment.
 
2009-11-26 08:02:17 PM
I see alot of this today



/hotlink, of course.
 
2009-11-26 08:03:01 PM
lol @ the losers in this thread.
 
2009-11-26 08:03:29 PM
#32: The Afghan national sport of buzhkashi is played between two teams of horsemen competing to throw a beheaded 30-kg (66 lb) calf, goat, or sheep into a scoring circle.

Wha...?
 
2009-11-26 08:03:42 PM
Sgt Otter: AppleOptionEsc: Hats off to the soldiers.

Also, just a head up on the 2nd NSFW pic. It's really really really really really really not safe for anything really. It's like, on 4chan level on the gore-o-meter.

I guess I'm pretty desensitized. The first thing I noticed is that he's wearing U.S.-issue Belleville desert boots.


This. I saw the picture and immediately thought that he was either not taliban or playing both sides. The taliban isn't exactly known for their fancy footwear.

Send a package, a letter, or at least leave a wall post on the facebook page, to a service member that you know. Even the little things can do a lot. Happy thanksgiving to everybody.
 
2009-11-26 08:04:18 PM
mud_shark: Farker T: mud_shark: I say that they didn't do their duty to overthrow the despots

Same thing could be said about us.

Not likely - how often do we throw stones at women until they are dead for showing their ankles in public?

And on those rare occasions when we do execute people at least there is a public record of the trial and we allow for multiple appeals.

No, the same cannot be said about us.


o rly?

Here in colonial times two courts alone convicted twenty-nine people of the capital felony of witchcraft. Nineteen of the accused, fourteen women and five men, were hanged. One man (Giles Corey) who refused to enter a plea was crushed to death under heavy stones in an attempt to force him to do so.

Yes, that took place 400 years ago. It still doesn't mean at one point we didn't have similar misguided ideologies as other countries currently have.
 
2009-11-26 08:04:39 PM
Fine, I'll actually add this image to mah photobuckets


/mods, please delete my last post.
 
2009-11-26 08:05:30 PM
ok, so, is my image posting powers suddenly being taken away?
 
2009-11-26 08:06:38 PM
Failing_Junk: Truth hurts?

If by "truth hurts" you mean that the sort of throw-away, cliche and shallow intellect your comment demonstrates gives me a headache, yes.
 
2009-11-26 08:07:29 PM
She looks so emo...

img18.imageshack.us
 
2009-11-26 08:09:40 PM
I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: It still doesn't mean at one point we didn't have similar misguided ideologies as other countries currently have.

Exactly. And that was such a widespread "ideology" that it was part and parcel of our culture. That's also why it's okay when they do it now.
 
2009-11-26 08:10:18 PM
mud_shark: Not likely - how often do we throw stones at women until they are dead for showing their ankles in public?

Guess THIS WOMAN (caution - graphic image) won't have to worry about that anymore.
 
2009-11-26 08:10:23 PM
#3
Khadija, 40, sits in her cave early in the morning in Bamiyan on November 10, 2009. The cave dwellers here are all Hazara, who are religiously and ethnically distinct and survivors of intense persecution by the Taliban. Bamiyan, some 200 km (124 miles) northwest of Kabul, stands in a deep green and lush valley stretching 100 km through central Afghanistan, on the former Silk Road that once linked China with Central Asia and beyond. The town was home to two nearly 2,000-year-old Buddha statues before they were destroyed by the Taliban, months before their regime was toppled in a US-led invasion in late 2001. (SHAH MARAI/AFP/Getty Images)


Farkin' savages & I don't mean the Hazara.
 
2009-11-26 08:12:28 PM
Great photographs. Number 28 was horrible. The chick whose husband died was pretty hot, she wont be single for long. Not being direpectful, just saying.
The USA is going too soft in Afg. They should tell the Taliban every time a soldier dies, we kill 100 civilians. The civilains would kill the Taliban. Problem solved. They are brutal people and they understand this kind of talk and respect it.
 
2009-11-26 08:13:51 PM
I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: Yes, that took place 400 years ago. It still doesn't mean at one point we didn't have similar misguided ideologies as other countries currently have.

So we should just wait 400 years for Afghanis to become as civilized as we are now?

Sorry, but that's not a viable option in my opinion.
 
2009-11-26 08:14:05 PM
BesiktasBoy83: Great photographs. Number 28 was horrible. The chick whose husband died was pretty hot, she wont be single for long. Not being direpectful, just saying.
The USA is going too soft in Afg. They should tell the Taliban every time a soldier dies, we kill 100 civilians. The civilains would kill the Taliban. Problem solved. They are brutal people and they understand this kind of talk and respect it.


That cunning plan. Was it thought all the way through?
 
2009-11-26 08:15:11 PM
You_mean_Im_gonna_stay_this_color: Thankful why?

That you are not #29.
 
2009-11-26 08:17:30 PM
Nice pics, Cpl. Cassey Liffrig 2nd battalion, 12th infantry regiment, 4th brigade combat team, 4th infantry division leaping for cover from supressing terrorist fire. It brings a tear to your eye.
 
2009-11-26 08:19:45 PM
AppleOptionEsc: BesiktasBoy83: Great photographs. Number 28 was horrible. The chick whose husband died was pretty hot, she wont be single for long. Not being direpectful, just saying.
The USA is going too soft in Afg. They should tell the Taliban every time a soldier dies, we kill 100 civilians. The civilains would kill the Taliban. Problem solved. They are brutal people and they understand this kind of talk and respect it.

That cunning plan. Was it thought all the way through?


So whats your great idea? Because its not working now. Afghans are savages, very backward people. Give them rules from war 1000 years ago, it is what they deserve.
 
2009-11-26 08:22:36 PM
MPOM: I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: It still doesn't mean at one point we didn't have similar misguided ideologies as other countries currently have.

Exactly. And that was such a widespread "ideology" that it was part and parcel of our culture. That's also why it's okay when they do it now.


Obviously it's not okay when they do it now. But is the role of the U.S. to dictate what's "okay"? If so, when are the invasions of Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Darfur, etc scheduled?

I thought the invasion of Afghanistan was based on this whole "War on terror" thing. Seems like that train has slightly derailed over the years.
 
2009-11-26 08:25:43 PM
fark it..we're done. Let them sort it out!
 
2009-11-26 08:28:19 PM
Cool photos. That kid giving the thumbs down is creepy.
 
2009-11-26 08:28:30 PM
Soooooo....17 of the 9/11 attackers were from Saudi, so let's invade... wait for it...Iraq!
 
2009-11-26 08:28:52 PM
BesiktasBoy83: So whats your great idea? Because its not working now. Afghans are savages, very backward people. Give them rules from war 1000 years ago, it is what they deserve.

Of course it's not working. It didn't work for the former Soviet Union and we didn't learn from that. You can't bomb a country back to the 1st century when they're already living under those conditions.
 
2009-11-26 08:29:56 PM
MPOM: If by "truth hurts" you mean that the sort of throw-away, cliche and shallow intellect your comment demonstrates gives me a headache, yes.

Seems to me that patriotism matches that description and accurately identifying what soldiers do does not.
 
2009-11-26 08:30:15 PM
mud_shark: I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: Yes, that took place 400 years ago. It still doesn't mean at one point we didn't have similar misguided ideologies as other countries currently have.

So we should just wait 400 years for Afghanis to become as civilized as we are now?

Sorry, but that's not a viable option in my opinion.


It's not our business. They're not on our turf, we're on theirs. And why? Because a handful of clowns with boxcutters, Cessna licenses and a billionaire buddy *supposedly* made us look like fools?

How many dead soldiers is your pride worth?

If you like your morals, live them. Don't try to shove them down the throats of other cultures that aren't goring your ox - no matter how antiquated they may seem to YOU.

When these people have had enough of this kind of pseudo-theocratic rule, they'll change. All by themselves.

So until these people start herding their goats in your back yard, STFU and leave them alone.
 
2009-11-26 08:30:31 PM
jimi32: Soooooo....17 of the 9/11 attackers were from Saudi, so let's invade... wait for it...Iraq!

Soooo...these are pictures from Afghanistan, the nation that harbored and helped train th 9/11 attackers, so.....wait for it - let's bring up Iraq!
 
2009-11-26 08:31:12 PM
Failing_Junk: MPOM: If by "truth hurts" you mean that the sort of throw-away, cliche and shallow intellect your comment demonstrates gives me a headache, yes.

Seems to me that patriotism matches that description and accurately identifying what soldiers do does not.


Nationalism grooves better
 
2009-11-26 08:31:18 PM
SPARTA!
img341.imageshack.us
 
2009-11-26 08:34:30 PM
I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: Obviously it's not okay when they do it now. But is the role of the U.S. to dictate what's "okay"? If so, when are the invasions of Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Darfur, etc scheduled?

This is the age-old argument that essentially boils down to the idea that if you can't solve all problems, and perfectly, you shouldn't attempt to solve any. Countries, even those with overweening power, have limited resources and envelopes of action, and have to make pragmatic decisions within those constraint. Stemming from that might be that once you have deposed a government that harbored an attacker you may try to move the country as a whole toward a system of government that has generally served populations well and which tends to be one that is more accountable. Whether that is always an attainable goal is debatable.
 
2009-11-26 08:34:49 PM
Farker T: It's not our business. They're not on our turf,

Sorry, but I thought NYC was a part of the US. It is our business.

Kill them all.
 
2009-11-26 08:36:23 PM
mud_shark: jimi32: Soooooo....17 of the 9/11 attackers were from Saudi, so let's invade... wait for it...Iraq!

Soooo...these are pictures from Afghanistan, the nation that harbored and helped train th 9/11 attackers, so.....wait for it - let's bring up Iraq!


Afghanistan was a byproduct war.

I remember saying to my wife, "oh shiat, a cowboy and a despot are having it out"

Shock and awe!
 
2009-11-26 08:38:36 PM
mud_shark: Farker T: It's not our business. They're not on our turf,

Sorry, but I thought NYC was a part of the US. It is our business.

Kill them all.


www.uweb.ucsb.edu
 
2009-11-26 08:39:03 PM
Farker T: mud_shark: I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: Yes, that took place 400 years ago. It still doesn't mean at one point we didn't have similar misguided ideologies as other countries currently have.

So we should just wait 400 years for Afghanis to become as civilized as we are now?

Sorry, but that's not a viable option in my opinion.

It's not our business. They're not on our turf, we're on theirs. And why? Because a handful of clowns with boxcutters, Cessna licenses and a billionaire buddy *supposedly* made us look like fools?

How many dead soldiers is your pride worth?

If you like your morals, live them. Don't try to shove them down the throats of other cultures that aren't goring your ox - no matter how antiquated they may seem to YOU.

When these people have had enough of this kind of pseudo-theocratic rule, they'll change. All by themselves.

So until these people start herding their goats in your back yard, STFU and leave them alone.


Thank you, Farker T, for your response; one that far outreaches what I could have written at the moment.
 
2009-11-26 08:39:17 PM
Amazing pics...

So thankful for those brave men and women over there. I really wish they were home with their families. Hopefully they will be soon!
 
2009-11-26 08:39:27 PM
jimi32: mud_shark: jimi32: Soooooo....17 of the 9/11 attackers were from Saudi, so let's invade... wait for it...Iraq!

Soooo...these are pictures from Afghanistan, the nation that harbored and helped train th 9/11 attackers, so.....wait for it - let's bring up Iraq!

Afghanistan was a byproduct war.

I remember saying to my wife, "oh shiat, a cowboy and a despot are having it out"

Shock and awe!


Yeah, "byproduct" much in the same way that our entry into WWII was a byproduct of a handful of Japanese pilots and sailors attacking Pearl Harbor - got it.

It is so unfair that we waged war against Japan in WWII - we should have had an Affirmative Action plan in place back then,
 
2009-11-26 08:39:54 PM
Lord Farkwad: SPARTA!

Can you imagine being that kid?
/was gonna say more, but...
 
2009-11-26 08:40:20 PM
jimi32: Soooooo....17 of the 9/11 attackers were from Saudi, so let's invade... wait for it...Iraq!

1/10. nice try. keep it about the holiday and how any of the service members in Afghanistan, as well as the rest of the world, would much rather be anywhere else today than there.

/spent Thanksgiving 2005 at Kandahar AF
//played an entire season of NCAA 2005 that day
///glad to be inside the wire for the meal (and eggnog in a can)
 
2009-11-26 08:41:32 PM
Guys in the pics deserve the HERO tag, but our leaders deserve a belt in the chops for not bringing this thing to an end earlier.

You fight a war, you fight with full power, or not at all. Any other way drags it out and kills too many people.
 
2009-11-26 08:42:36 PM
jimi32: mud_shark: Farker T: It's not our business. They're not on our turf,

Sorry, but I thought NYC was a part of the US. It is our business.

Kill them all.


If you have a point to make, then do so....Yeah - I guess there are some arguments to be made for isolationism - not that I buy them. Would you prefere Afghanistan to be a satellite of the USSR? (actually, that does have some appeal)
 
2009-11-26 08:44:58 PM
mud_shark: Farker T: It's not our business. They're not on our turf,

Sorry, but I thought NYC was a part of the US. It is our business.

Kill them all.


And if these goat herders really WERE behind the 9/11 attacks, why? Why would they fricking bother to come ALL the way over here to kick the hornet's nest?

Because they "hate our freedoms", as GW said? (Or was it that they hat our Snickers bars? I forget)

Kill them all? Kill WHO all?

Wait a minute - no one could be *that* stupid...

Damn! I do believe I've been trolled!
 
2009-11-26 08:45:43 PM
mud_shark: jimi32: mud_shark: jimi32: Soooooo....17 of the 9/11 attackers were from Saudi, so let's invade... wait for it...Iraq!

Soooo...these are pictures from Afghanistan, the nation that harbored and helped train th 9/11 attackers, so.....wait for it - let's bring up Iraq!

Afghanistan was a byproduct war.

I remember saying to my wife, "oh shiat, a cowboy and a despot are having it out"

Shock and awe!

Yeah, "byproduct" much in the same way that our entry into WWII was a byproduct of a handful of Japanese pilots and sailors attacking Pearl Harbor - got it.

It is so unfair that we waged war against Japan in WWII - we should have had an Affirmative Action plan in place back then,


Bullshiat...
I'm a vet, and I see through the shiat. We should have invaded Saudi Arabia to stop the madness. Where did we go? Iraq, Afghanistan, WTF? Bin Laden said the following day: "Wow, it wasn't me, but I wish it was."
/Bin Laden is a Saudi "prince."
 
2009-11-26 08:48:13 PM
mud_shark: Yeah, "byproduct" much in the same way that our entry into WWII was a byproduct of a handful of Japanese pilots and sailors of the government of Japan attacking Pearl Harbor - got it.

/ftfy

On the other hand, let's go with your premise that Afghanistan attacked the U.S. and so we needed to retaliate by invading them. Now what? What's the game plan? Pour another $1,000,000,000,000.00 into this war like we did with Iraq?
 
2009-11-26 08:50:40 PM
Yo, mud_shark, how many tours have you done?
 
2009-11-26 08:54:24 PM
insolent_bystander: jimi32: Soooooo....17 of the 9/11 attackers were from Saudi, so let's invade... wait for it...Iraq!

1/10. nice try. keep it about the holiday and how any of the service members in Afghanistan, as well as the rest of the world, would much rather be anywhere else today than there.

/spent Thanksgiving 2005 at Kandahar AF
//played an entire season of NCAA 2005 that day
///glad to be inside the wire for the meal (and eggnog in a can)


I had Thanksgiving 2007 in Iraq, outside the wire. We had a Combat Outpost set up away from our main Forward Operating Base. Our Support Company had their cooks make us Thanksgiving at the COP, using a Mobile Kitchen Tent. We split the platoon in half so one half could grab dinner, while the other half maintained the patrol, then rotate through for dinner.

Unfortunately, word got out in Fobbitville that Fox News would be doing a live broadcast from the COP, where you could say hi to the folks back home. They all raced out to the COP, ate up all of our farking food (despite already having eaten the really nice Thanksgiving at the main Dining Facility at the FOB), and then began telling bullshiat "war stories" for the camera.

What little turkey we had left, we had to give to our local Iraqi interpreters, and a few important locals we had invited over, so we had cold ham. It was pretty hilarious when one of our biatch-slapped some POGue and took back a sweet potato pie. Those assholes had already eaten all the pumpkin pie.

img.photobucket.com

/At least the ham was pretty decent.
 
2009-11-26 08:55:18 PM
Third_Uncle_Eno: the thing in the middle left of the picture....
what the fark is that?

it looks like something that has a round body and 'tailfins'.
like a fake plastic fish.
or a very very very oddly shaped missle or something.

/see the one in the article for bigger.




I think it's a streetlight.
 
2009-11-26 08:56:49 PM
Sgt Otter: Deruke: Can someone please explain the patch on this man's jacket?

A magnet, what appears to be a steaming pile of shiat, and the letters "A POS", which I'm reading as "A Piece of shiat". WTF?

/Hot like Afghanistan

They're unrelated.shiat Magnet = The guy in the platoon who inexplicably draws the most fire.

A POS = Blood type.




Shiat magnet? Looks like a Allah magnet to me.

img205.imageshack.usimg205.imageshack.us
 
2009-11-26 09:00:46 PM
RedThree: Yo, mud_shark, how many tours have you done?

Yo RedThree how many have you done?

Are you suggesting that just because you believe it is unlikely that I've actually been to Afghanistan as part of our "war" that I should not have any opinion on it?

Really? How many tours of duty did our last 10 presidents serve?

Or am I just supposed to blindly kowtow to the opinion of someone who claims to have done KP duty in a tent in Kuwait for 3 months during Operation Desert Shield?

Oh, and Farker T go dig up another strawman because I never said shiat about them hating our freedom.

Go ahead and defend the Taliban and those who accepted them as leaders....It's exactly like the US, isn't it?

Go ahead. This should be really interesting.
 
2009-11-26 09:01:42 PM
Sgt Otter:I had Thanksgiving 2007 in Iraq, outside the wire. We had a Combat Outpost set up away from our main Forward Operating Base. Our Support Company had their cooks make us Thanksgiving at the COP, using a Mobile Kitchen Tent. We split the platoon in half so one half could grab dinner, while the other half maintained the patrol, then rotate through for dinner.

Unfortunately, word got out in Fobbitville that Fox News would be doing a live broadcast from the COP, where you could say hi to the folks back home. They all raced out to the COP, ate up all of our farking food (despite already having eaten the really nice Thanksgiving at the main Dining Facility at the FOB), and then began telling bullshiat "war stories" for the camera.

What little turkey we had left, we had to give to our local Iraqi interpreters, and a few important locals we had invited over, so we had cold ham. It was pretty hilarious when one of our biatch-slapped some POGue and took back a sweet potato pie. Those assholes had already eaten all the pumpkin pie.



/At least the ham was pretty decent.


At least you got to eat for Thanksgiving. I had the pleasure of my convoy being blown up in Iraq on Thanksgiving day 2005. Spent 18 hours doing clean up and sweeping the locale. By the time we got back the DFAC was closed. Though I hear Sen. Lieberman stopped by. Good times.

It also amazes how me how ridiculously ignorant many people are in this thread.
 
2009-11-26 09:05:09 PM
Farker T: mud_shark: Farker T: It's not our business. They're not on our turf,

Sorry, but I thought NYC was a part of the US. It is our business.

Kill them all.

And if these goat herders really WERE behind the 9/11 attacks, why? Why would they fricking bother to come ALL the way over here to kick the hornet's nest?

Because they "hate our freedoms", as GW said? (Or was it that they hat our Snickers bars? I forget)

Kill them all? Kill WHO all?

Wait a minute - no one could be *that* stupid...

Damn! I do believe I've been trolled!


I don't think you quite realize the difference in our cultures. Its great that you feel like wanting death is so unthinkable. It perfectly demonstrates what separates us from them.

"We love death. The US loves life. That is the difference between us two." ~Osama Bin Laden
 
2009-11-26 09:12:30 PM
Sgt Otter: insolent_bystander: jimi32: Soooooo....17 of the 9/11 attackers were from Saudi, so let's invade... wait for it...Iraq!

1/10. nice try. keep it about the holiday and how any of the service members in Afghanistan, as well as the rest of the world, would much rather be anywhere else today than there.

/spent Thanksgiving 2005 at Kandahar AF
//played an entire season of NCAA 2005 that day
///glad to be inside the wire for the meal (and eggnog in a can)

I had Thanksgiving 2007 in Iraq, outside the wire. We had a Combat Outpost set up away from our main Forward Operating Base. Our Support Company had their cooks make us Thanksgiving at the COP, using a Mobile Kitchen Tent. We split the platoon in half so one half could grab dinner, while the other half maintained the patrol, then rotate through for dinner.

Unfortunately, word got out in Fobbitville that Fox News would be doing a live broadcast from the COP, where you could say hi to the folks back home. They all raced out to the COP, ate up all of our farking food (despite already having eaten the really nice Thanksgiving at the main Dining Facility at the FOB), and then began telling bullshiat "war stories" for the camera.

What little turkey we had left, we had to give to our local Iraqi interpreters, and a few important locals we had invited over, so we had cold ham. It was pretty hilarious when one of our biatch-slapped some POGue and took back a sweet potato pie. Those assholes had already eaten all the pumpkin pie.



/At least the ham was pretty decent.


And let me guess Haliburton charged the US $100 a head for that meal probably which you didn't get any of.

/always dig the Sgt Otter stories
 
2009-11-26 09:16:28 PM
In Iraq now, happy thanksgiving America
 
2009-11-26 09:20:21 PM
Sgt Otter makes any thread about the military 10x more interesting. He needs to write a book and I need to buy it.
 
2009-11-26 09:22:31 PM
mud_shark: RedThree: Yo, mud_shark, how many tours have you done?

Yo RedThree how many have you done?

Are you suggesting that just because you believe it is unlikely that I've actually been to Afghanistan as part of our "war" that I should not have any opinion on it?

Really? How many tours of duty did our last 10 presidents serve?

Or am I just supposed to blindly kowtow to the opinion of someone who claims to have done KP duty in a tent in Kuwait for 3 months during Operation Desert Shield?


I am clapping for you mud_shark. Woo!
 
2009-11-26 09:26:04 PM
I wasn't trolling.
This shiat needs to stop. Either go in there and fark EVERYTHING up, or get the fark out. We have a few things that are better than IED's, and the troops are most likely the same as when I was in. This has turned into a politico war, on both fronts, and we don't need to loose any more people over this. fark it, win it outright, or get the fark out. Didn't Viet Nam teach us anything?
 
2009-11-26 09:26:55 PM
Sweet merciful fark.

God bless them, and keep them safe until they return home.
 
2009-11-26 09:27:37 PM
mud_shark: Or am I just supposed to blindly kowtow to the opinion of someone who claims to have done KP duty in a tent in Kuwait for 3 months during Operation Desert Shield?

Oh, and Farker T go dig up another strawman because I never said shiat about them hating our freedom.


I didn't say you said it, I said BUSH said it. I was trying to get YOU to give me a BETTER answer than the BushBaby was able to come up with.

No such luck. Care to try again? Here's a start:

Osama Bin Taliban, knowing full well that it would bring HELL raining down on them for years, possibly decades, decided to attack the US anyway because... [insert answer here].


Go ahead and defend the Taliban and those who accepted them as leaders....It's exactly like the US, isn't it?

No one is defending the Taliban.

Here's a clue, Muddy: Governments will ALWAYS evolve into being as corrupt and tyrannical as the *governed* will ALLOW them to be.

ALWAYS. NO EXCEPTIONS.

It is the duty of the governed to do whatever is necessary to keep government power in check - otherwise, "liberty" is lost.

Ask Thomas Jefferson.
 
2009-11-26 09:37:07 PM
TheGhostofFarkPast: Sgt Otter: insolent_bystander: jimi32: Soooooo....17 of the 9/11 attackers were from Saudi, so let's invade... wait for it...Iraq!

1/10. nice try. keep it about the holiday and how any of the service members in Afghanistan, as well as the rest of the world, would much rather be anywhere else today than there.

/spent Thanksgiving 2005 at Kandahar AF
//played an entire season of NCAA 2005 that day
///glad to be inside the wire for the meal (and eggnog in a can)

I had Thanksgiving 2007 in Iraq, outside the wire. We had a Combat Outpost set up away from our main Forward Operating Base. Our Support Company had their cooks make us Thanksgiving at the COP, using a Mobile Kitchen Tent. We split the platoon in half so one half could grab dinner, while the other half maintained the patrol, then rotate through for dinner.

Unfortunately, word got out in Fobbitville that Fox News would be doing a live broadcast from the COP, where you could say hi to the folks back home. They all raced out to the COP, ate up all of our farking food (despite already having eaten the really nice Thanksgiving at the main Dining Facility at the FOB), and then began telling bullshiat "war stories" for the camera.

What little turkey we had left, we had to give to our local Iraqi interpreters, and a few important locals we had invited over, so we had cold ham. It was pretty hilarious when one of our biatch-slapped some POGue and took back a sweet potato pie. Those assholes had already eaten all the pumpkin pie.



/At least the ham was pretty decent.

And let me guess Haliburton charged the US $100 a head for that meal probably which you didn't get any of.

/always dig the Sgt Otter stories


I have such a crush on Sgt Otter, but I assume I'm not even close to alone in that.
 
2009-11-26 09:37:40 PM
Sgt Otter, Inward Singing,thank you for your service to our country. I'm sorry to hear about your thanksgiving experiences.

RediixOne: In Iraq now, happy thanksgiving America

Thank you for continuing to serve our country. I hope you make it home soon and safe.
 
2009-11-26 09:47:06 PM
Farker T: I didn't say you said it, I said BUSH said it. I was trying to get YOU to give me a BETTER answer than the BushBaby was able to come up with.

No such luck. Care to try again? Here's a start:

Osama Bin Taliban, knowing full well that it would bring HELL raining down on them for years, possibly decades, decided to attack the US anyway because... [insert answer here].


It's really simple. Osama and his ilk are ideologically opposed to the West. He blames the Saud family for all the problems in the Middle East because of their alliance with the US. He thinks of them as a snake, with the US as its head.

To even think that Osama cares about the kind of hell we can rain down on him is ignorant at best. He does not care about the consequences. That's his whole farking ideology. In fact the more we go after him and the more people we kill along the way all the better for him. It just gives him more fuel to use against us, and recruit impressionable Muslim youths to his cause.

But what would you do? The man has killed thousands of westerners in the last two decades. Are we supposed to just ignore him and hope he goes away?
 
2009-11-26 09:47:17 PM
Pesky_Humans: street

Beast me to it.
 
2009-11-26 09:48:41 PM
 
2009-11-26 09:48:54 PM
oneping.net
 
2009-11-26 09:51:29 PM
You people think these photos are inspirational?? You are seriously deranged. What kind of psychotic enjoys pictures of death and dismemberment? Maybe you're looking at such a one in the mirror.
 
2009-11-26 09:59:18 PM
Githerax: You people think these photos are inspirational?? You are seriously deranged. What kind of psychotic enjoys pictures of death and dismemberment? Maybe you're looking at such a one in the mirror.

Wow, you smell like #29.
 
2009-11-26 10:06:03 PM
Boston Globe often has these amazing photo spreads. They must have a lot of well-compensated photographers on staff.
 
2009-11-26 10:06:51 PM
Stay safe, guys and gals.
 
2009-11-26 10:07:25 PM
Hey, Sgt. Otter, if you're gonna be one be a big Red One, right :)
 
2009-11-26 10:08:53 PM
Inward Singing: To even think that Osama cares about the kind of hell we can rain down on him is ignorant at best. He does not care about the consequences. That's his whole farking ideology. In fact the more we go after him and the more people we kill along the way all the better for him. It just gives him more fuel to use against us, and recruit impressionable Muslim youths to his cause.

But it's ok for USA to give Osama weapons and resources to fight the Russian invasion, and to give Saddam Hussein chemical weapons to use against Iran.
 
2009-11-26 10:13:16 PM
m0llusk: Afghanistan looks a lot more peaceful now than it has during most of my life. Much of the strife now is financed with drug smuggling money care of the drug war. If people really knew how much this all cost they would want our troops back immediately. Stop it with the conservative posturing and bone up on Just War Theory before we end up overseas for no reason again.

The invasion of Afghanistan and the overthrow of the Taliban was perfectly in accord with Just War Theory:

1. Osama Bin Laden directed an unprovoked attack on US civilians.
2. The Taliban were harboring him.
3. The President said, "Hand him over so that he can face justice, or else."
4. The Taliban said, "Fark you."
5. "Or else" happened.

The question is, now that "or else" has happened, why are we still over there?
 
2009-11-26 10:14:25 PM
I'm thankful that Americans are such savage retards that are quick to go to war and act on a savage whim, otherwise I wouldn't have a job programming guiding systems.
 
2009-11-26 10:14:49 PM
War farks people up. I am thankful for those who have stood up to fight. I wish those who send them make proper, not political decisions.
 
2009-11-26 10:16:50 PM
A compelling reason why we should be in Afghanistan, from Senator John Kerry:

"So what should we learn from Vietnam? The lessons aren't simple, particularly when applied to a very different country... But some comparisons with Afghanistan are apt.

We are once again fighting an insurgency in a rural country wiht a weak central government. Americans were outsiders in a complex war among Vietnamese. Our allies were corrupt. Our adversaries were rutheless. Enemy territory was everywhere... Once again our enemy blends in with the local population and finds sanctuary in a neighboring country. Once again, the danger of being perceived as an occupying force by a war-weary population remains perilous.

[...]

But the situation in Afghanistan is also very different from the challenge we faced in Southeast Asia. Vietnam was a mistaken proxy war against worldwide communism: nothing there realistically threatened the United States... Yet, in September 2001, mass murder was plotted against us from Afghan soil. We all know why we invaded Afghanistan, and so do the Russians, the Chinese, and other world powers. The was no contrived Gulf of Tonking rationale. It was not a mistake.

Now we must choose a smart way forward so no one asks whether we've made a mistake in staying..."

- Newsweek magazine, November 16th, 2009, pp. 40-41

Excellent link subby. Best wishes to our troops in getting home safely and finding a way to get the job done (whatever we ultimately decide the job is going to be).
 
2009-11-26 10:19:41 PM
Can't we all agree that the Old Spice commercial where the guy bites the golf club is the funniest commercial on TV right now?

or at least the snickers Dehungerize commercial...
 
2009-11-26 10:27:21 PM
Here's an interesting tidbit I didn't know before today about the Soviet Union's ill fated invasion of Afghanistan:

About 14,500 Soviet and an estimated one million Afghan lives were lost between 1979 and the Soviet withdrawal in 1989.

Cripes... nearly a 1:69 death ratio and the Soviets still walked away with their tails between their legs. And our outcome will be any different how?
 
2009-11-26 10:29:34 PM
I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: Here's an interesting tidbit I didn't know before today about the Soviet Union's ill fated invasion of Afghanistan:

About 14,500 Soviet and an estimated one million Afghan lives were lost between 1979 and the Soviet withdrawal in 1989.

Cripes... nearly a 1:69 death ratio and the Soviets still walked away with their tails between their legs. And our outcome will be any different how?

It won't. Soviets had enough armor and gun ships to kill 10 times the people they did but the environment and the landscape made fighting a horrible proposition. Either we go all out and go over board on the amount of people we have their or we leave. I think the daily show had a great clip about this whole scenerio a few weeks ago.
 
2009-11-26 10:34:01 PM
I have full confidence the current administration knows exactly how to handle the Afghan situation:

Link (new window)
 
2009-11-26 10:36:20 PM
Thank you so much to all who have served, are serving, and will continue to serve. You awe me with your courage, and humble me with your sacrifice. If wishes had wings you would all be safe and warm and home with your loved ones.
 
2009-11-26 10:37:56 PM
Holy crap, #28 was awful. What happened to him?
 
2009-11-26 10:46:14 PM
Galileo's Daughter: Holy crap, #28 was awful. What happened to him?

Umm, you read the caption below picture?
Suicide bomber, probably bomb strapped to waist.
 
2009-11-26 10:58:14 PM
Man, #28 is pretty farking gruesome.
 
2009-11-26 11:07:03 PM
OK_breathe: Thank you so much to all who have served, are serving, and will continue to serve. You awe me with your courage, and humble me with your sacrifice. If wishes had wings you would all be safe and warm and home with your loved ones.

You're welcome. It was an honor wearing a military uniform for this country.
 
2009-11-26 11:13:24 PM
Is mud_shark a giant douche, or am I just tired?
 
2009-11-26 11:26:20 PM
Inward Singing: Farker T: I didn't say you said it, I said BUSH said it. I was trying to get YOU to give me a BETTER answer than the BushBaby was able to come up with.

No such luck. Care to try again? Here's a start:

Osama Bin Taliban, knowing full well that it would bring HELL raining down on them for years, possibly decades, decided to attack the US anyway because... [insert answer here].

It's really simple. Osama and his ilk are ideologically opposed to the West. He blames the Saud family for all the problems in the Middle East because of their alliance with the US. He thinks of them as a snake, with the US as its head.


So that would make Israel what? The snake charmer?


To even think that Osama cares about the kind of hell we can rain down on him is ignorant at best. He does not care about the consequences. That's his whole farking ideology.

So, what flavor is the Kool-Aid tonight?

In fact the more we go after him and the more people we kill along the way all the better for him. It just gives him more fuel to use against us, and recruit impressionable Muslim youths to his cause.

I see. So the more time and money we spend, the more manpower we use, the more lives that are lost - whether US or Afghani... all of this works to the ADVANTAGE Osama and his interests.

In that case we should pull out at once. He'll be powerless in no time.

But what would you do? The man has killed thousands of westerners in the last two decades. Are we supposed to just ignore him and hope he goes away?

We've been ignoring him for YEARS. The moment we invaded Iraq Osama became yesterday's news - like the Iran Revolution threads died on the same day as Michael Jackson.

Osama and Al Quaida was nothing but a bogeyman invented by the Neocons and used as a focal point for the vengeful wrath Americans felt post 9/11.

It's been eight years. You rarely hear his name mentioned. He is still "free" (very possibly dead and decayed), yet we never hear of any efforts to find him.

In other words, this is NOT about Bin Ladin, the Taliban, or saving bare-ankled women from stonings. There are other objectives here.

www.google.com

The US Controls Iraq, and is building up a sizable force in Afghanistan.

Who lies in the middle?

Who has been beating SERIOUS war drums against that country, and would be well served by having them surrounded by US forces?

I like the "snake charmer" analogy.
 
2009-11-26 11:28:23 PM
dprathbun: Is mud_shark a giant douche, or am I just tired?

It would be inappropriate for me to comment on whether you may be tired.
 
2009-11-26 11:31:18 PM
Random thoughts...

The pictures from the Boston Globe never, ever fail to be sobering, haunting, and beautiful in their own way. Kudos to the photographers.

Vets/active duty Farkers: I'm sorry that yours and my country can't bring you home from this utter farking shiatstorm. I don't agree with the politics of why you are where you're at, but you have my respect. Some of you are there because you believe in "the cause," some of you are just trying to provide for your families. either way I don't care, just wanted to say I respect you.

Goddamnit. It's the 21st goddamn century. Why the fark can't our species stop killing each other over such trivial farking bullshiat.

/Filter working overtime on this post.
//kinda dusty in my apartment
 
2009-11-26 11:31:22 PM
Farker T: next time let's not, okay?

Orly? You'd rather they brought it here while we sit on our hands? You like the dead faces to be the faces of your own citizens and children? Like it or not, "let's not" is not a choice we have the luxury of making. So, that limits us to the choice: their turf, or ours?
 
2009-11-26 11:36:38 PM
Bring the troops home! Stop letting them die for corrupt politicians!

Anyone that supports this war can easily find an Army recruitment form on the Army website. Grab yourself a gun if you think this is right.
 
2009-11-26 11:38:05 PM
I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: OK_breathe: Thank you so much to all who have served, are serving, and will continue to serve. You awe me with your courage, and humble me with your sacrifice. If wishes had wings you would all be safe and warm and home with your loved ones.

You're welcome. It was an honor wearing a military uniform for this country.


And my thanks to all who serve.

I have nothing but respect for the men and women who would risk their lives and livelihoods for what they believe are the best interests of this nation.

I have nothing but CONTEMPT for anyone who would dare usurp their loyalty, courage and sacrifice to serve ulterior motives, or the interests of third-party political entities.

Support the troops.

Question your government.

Bring them HOME.
 
2009-11-26 11:48:27 PM
HAMMERTOE: Farker T: next time let's not, okay?

Orly? You'd rather they brought it here while we sit on our hands? You like the dead faces to be the faces of your own citizens and children? Like it or not, "let's not" is not a choice we have the luxury of making. So, that limits us to the choice: their turf, or ours?


It's been a while since hearing the "we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them hear" mantra. Or were you making a joke? Please let your comment be a joke.
 
2009-11-26 11:50:48 PM
I was fortunate enough to have Thanksgiving dinner with my Army son who recently returned from his Afghanistan tour without a scratch.

Plus Lady Invictus, my non-military son, my parents, my brothers and sister, nieces, nephews, all their significant others, and my 9 month old great-niece who decided to cover my cheek with sloppy baby kisses.
 
2009-11-26 11:50:52 PM
As long as this continues, Muslims will never exist peacefully with other
humans.

FTFA:
"Afghan children read from the Koran as they attend a traditional school
held in an old synagogue now being used as a Muslim mosque in Herat
November 4, 2009."


i51.photobucket.com

The cycle must be broken and while the "reformation" of Islam ought to
be done by Muslims, the West must help it along by forcing the separation
of mosque and state and the first step on that road is teaching the children.
 
2009-11-26 11:55:30 PM
Deruke: A magnet, what appears to be a steaming pile of shiat, and the letters "A POS", which I'm reading as "A Piece of shiat". WTF?

I am sure somone has already answered this, but that is his blood type. A+. We mark it on a bunch of our easily seen gear so for fairly obvious reasons.

A better but overly pedantic question is: why does he not have the safety on.
 
2009-11-26 11:57:39 PM
HAMMERTOE: Farker T: next time let's not, okay?

Orly? You'd rather they brought it here while we sit on our hands? You like the dead faces to be the faces of your own citizens and children?



Do you believe that the soldiers that are dying now are not OUR OWN citizens and children? Do you really believe that our military pressure on Iraq and Afghanistan has prevented attacks on US soil?

If anything, it has given those who may be so inclined motivation to carry out such attacks.


Like it or not, "let's not" is not a choice we have the luxury of making. So, that limits us to the choice: their turf, or ours?

To me it would seem profitable to make an attempt at decyphering their motives:

Why do they want to fark with us?

Are we doing things that are either threatening them or pissing them off?

If so, what? And is there some way that we could STOP doing those things?

I know that this concept is a radical shock to the collective ego of the US (and that's one hell of an ego), but really, why not take the chance?
 
2009-11-27 12:01:37 AM
Come home!
Come home!
Come home!
Come home!

Please come back to us!

/cries
 
2009-11-27 12:02:41 AM
Luthiel: Man, #28 is pretty farking gruesome.

I am one of those weak-kneed people that always heed warnings about disturbing images, so I don't click on them. I could never handle the brave work of war photographers, emergency response workers, or medics. Many of the "safe" images in the slide show were disturbing enough.
 
2009-11-27 12:04:05 AM
Yes Sound: Deruke: A magnet, what appears to be a steaming pile of shiat, and the letters "A POS", which I'm reading as "A Piece of shiat". WTF?

I am sure somone has already answered this, but that is his blood type. A+. We mark it on a bunch of our easily seen gear so for fairly obvious reasons.

A better but overly pedantic question is: why does he not have the safety on.


I'd guess that it's because the hammer is down thus making the Beretta double action for the first shot. It would be roughly the same as carrying a Glock in that manner.
 
GCD
2009-11-27 12:07:16 AM
That guy in photo 5 has some large brass balls. I wouldn't be standing anywhere that close a burning tanker truck...and I'm a firefighter.

If that thing were to (BLEVE (Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapor Explosion ), he would end up looking like that guy in photo 28.
 
2009-11-27 12:08:28 AM
Spoonfed'sBuddy: I'd guess that it's because the hammer is down thus making the Beretta double action for the first shot. It would be roughly the same as carrying a Glock in that manner.

Yes, I am qualified to teach marksmanship on the m9, it's just something that they drum into your head over and over. You don't take your safety off until the last min.

Its one of those little details that illustrates to me how much he put into saving the afghan.
 
2009-11-27 12:12:24 AM
hariseldon: As long as this continues, Muslims will never exist peacefully with other
humans.

FTFA:
"Afghan Israeli children read from the Koran Talmudand and Torah as they attend a traditional school
held in an old synagogue now being used as a Muslim mosque in Herat Tel Aviv.

November 4, 2009."

The cycle must be broken and while the "reformation" of Islam Judaism ought to
be done by Muslims Jews, the West must help it along by forcing the separation
of mosque Synagogue and state and the first step on that road is teaching the children.


The (conveniently ignored) other side of the coin.
 
2009-11-27 12:14:58 AM
Yes Sound: Spoonfed'sBuddy: I'd guess that it's because the hammer is down thus making the Beretta double action for the first shot. It would be roughly the same as carrying a Glock in that manner.

Yes, I am qualified to teach marksmanship on the m9, it's just something that they drum into your head over and over. You don't take your safety off until the last min.

Its one of those little details that illustrates to me how much he put into saving the afghan.


I have no military experience. I've rented the 92 and newer ninety-two a couple times at the range. Fine pistol, but I prefer my Kimber 1911. I've been through basic defensive pistol training taught by the sheriff's deputy responsible for training LEO's in a neighboring county. I was taught to take the safety off while rotating the pistol forward during the draw. How do you teach when you train people?

//thanks for your service btw.
 
2009-11-27 12:16:54 AM
I can take gory pictures anytime of the day and have seen some pretty terrible human sufferings but I HATE HATE seeing pictures of women or little children without limbs, eyes or orphans walking alone through graveyards completely filled with headstones!!

FARKING FARK! I HATE WAR! and I consider myself a hawk!

Why is humanity so farking cruel?
even the most vile dreamed up monsters from R rated Hollywood movies can't match the horror of real life human trangressions against each other!

Humanity needs a reboot!
 
2009-11-27 12:17:56 AM
GCD: That guy in photo 5 has some large brass balls. I wouldn't be standing anywhere that close a burning tanker truck...and I'm a firefighter.

If that thing were to (BLEVE (Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapor Explosion ), he would end up looking like that guy in photo 28.


Brass balls? Not to knock his bravery, but if he knew what you know, he wouldn't be anywhere near it either.

Personally, I'd be makin' tracks!
 
2009-11-27 12:28:26 AM
BesiktasBoy83: Great photographs. Number 28 was horrible. The chick whose husband died was pretty hot, she wont be single for long. Not being direpectful, just saying.
The USA is going too soft in Afg. They should tell the Taliban every time a soldier dies, we kill 100 civilians. The civilains would kill the Taliban. Problem solved. They are brutal people and they understand this kind of talk and respect it.


The Soviets did in the 80's.. they planted boobie traps and explosives in teddy bears, toy trucks etc and scattered them around the countryside....they fire bombed entire village full of women and children because some goat herder looked at a colonel funny....
but hey I guess if you can go to sleep at night doing those things and think you're a tough guy so be it...there's really nothing more to say...
 
2009-11-27 12:31:32 AM
I hope this war ends real soon. I truly do.
 
2009-11-27 12:35:37 AM
Spoonfed'sBuddy: I have no military experience. I've rented the 92 and newer ninety-two a couple times at the range. Fine pistol, but I prefer my Kimber 1911. I've been through basic defensive pistol training taught by the sheriff's deputy responsible for training LEO's in a neighboring county. I was taught to take the safety off while rotating the pistol forward during the draw. How do you teach when you train people?

It depends, "keep your weapon on safe until you intend to fire" is one of the 4 rules that they absolutely hammer into our heads. On the qualification courses of fire they put the emphasis on firing the first round double action and the subsequent followup shots single. The difference is probably in the use. On deployment service members are armed at all times and to prevent negligent discharges and the like, clearing your weapon frequently on base, and keeping it on safe are emphasized to a ridiculous degree.

I definitely prefer the 1911 to the m9, but the only guys who have them are recon. Their training with it is almost all continuation of fire drills. They place their rifle around their back, rack the slide as they bring it to their chest, and then push outward in an isosceles stance. 1911s point so much better, going from that to a 9mil feels like going from gripping a deck of cards to gripping a beer bottle.

I think we are digressing though. These are amazing images, and I admire the balls that the photographers who took them have. Its relatively easy to run towards gunfire and explosions carrying a rifle, but when all you have to shoot with is film... I feel the same way about our docs.

A doc that died recently that I took a combat life savers course from, was shot while bandaging up another shot marine. Its stories like that, that motivate marines to take care of their corpsman at all costs.
 
2009-11-27 12:36:28 AM
SuperNinjaToad: Why is humanity so farking cruel?

Humanity is not cruel at all. But this isn't humanity, this is depravity. Don't confuse the two.

The human mind allows us to do extraordinary acts of kindness and benevolence, far beyond what any animal can do, but also acts of brutality and cruelty that no animal could ever conceive of.

Humanity is human intelligence used to make the world better. Evil is human intelligence used to make the world worse.
 
2009-11-27 12:37:36 AM
One thing is to the balls to go there guns blaxing, but I'm pretty sure it takes a special kind of man to jump into the firefight with nothing but a sidearm and your kit, just to retrieve a fallen soldier.

my cousin was a navy corpsman with the luck to travel with the special forces through some of the bad shiat. the stories he's told me are borderline unbelievable, and he really doesn't like to talk about it. i don't blame him.
 
2009-11-27 12:46:12 AM
SuperNinjaToad: I can take gory pictures anytime of the day and have seen some pretty terrible human sufferings but I HATE HATE seeing pictures of women or little children without limbs, eyes or orphans walking alone through graveyards completely filled with headstones!!

FARKING FARK! I HATE WAR! and I consider myself a hawk!

Why is humanity so farking cruel?
even the most vile dreamed up monsters from R rated Hollywood movies can't match the horror of real life human trangressions against each other!

Humanity needs a reboot!


Agreed.

It seems that we've advanced technologically far beyond what we're capable of managing spiritually.

Maybe that's why we keep recycling.
 
2009-11-27 12:49:59 AM
The USA is going too soft in Afg. They should tell the Taliban every time a soldier dies, we kill 100 civilians. The civilains would kill the Taliban. Problem solved. They are brutal people and they understand this kind of talk and respect it.

one of the first things you ever learn in political science is that when you kill civilians it only makes them cling closer to their government.

remember the "patriotism" that covered America right after 9-11 ???

that's why i know this whole war was is bullshiat. an attack on us like on 9-11 wouldn't logically follow getting us to do anything the "terrorists" "wanted". Osama was Harvard educated he would know this. it was clearly for an ulterior reason. im not going to say that it was to make shiat loads of money for select few later, but i'll let you think about that.

in any case yeah attacking civilians bad business, doesn't work unless your aim is genocide.
 
2009-11-27 01:05:29 AM
hariseldon: The cycle must be broken and while the "reformation" of Islam ought to
be done by Muslims, the West must help it along by forcing the separation
of mosque and state and the first step on that road is teaching the children.


I agree, but it's hard to tell muslims this without seeming like an evil American trying to destroy islam and all that. What would have been nice is if we did this 8 years ago and soon all the kids that were young back then would be coming of voting age and could start to really change things for the better.
 
2009-11-27 01:06:24 AM
antialias: SuperNinjaToad: Why is humanity so farking cruel?

Humanity is not cruel at all. But this isn't humanity, this is depravity. Don't confuse the two.

The human mind allows us to do extraordinary acts of kindness and benevolence, far beyond what any animal can do, but also acts of brutality and cruelty that no animal could ever conceive of.

Humanity is human intelligence used to make the world better. Evil is human intelligence used to make the world worse.


With your logic I'm all for breeding the evil out of humans and just keep the humanity portion!
Difficult part is I think they are mutually inclusive...if one is to belief the God of the Bible, we must be his greatest enigmatic creation of all.. even surpass the greatness that is the universe and galaxies...
....were we a genius creation or were we a mistake?
 
2009-11-27 01:12:36 AM
My god. I know this is fark, but I always hate so many of you after reading threads such as this.

Point number one.

The United States placed Saddam Hussein in power. He did have weapons of mass destruction. We knew he used them. We were fine with that until he became so anti-American as to no longer be useful.

Whatever our politicians many reasons for being there, this is a chance to finally pick up after ourselves. Running home because we think it's to scary for soldiers who volunteered is not the answer.

Afghanistan was invaded directly as a result of their association with the Taliban, who have been at war with the United Sates for generations now. They haven't stopped fighting. Why should we? This brings me to point number two.

Point number two.

They (insert name of militant Islamic radical group of your choice) hate us. Period. Not for our "freedums!!1!" but because we deny their god and willfully live lifestyles they find spiritually detestable. Read Deuteronomy lately? They believe that, and much more more. To the letter. They will lay down their lives to kill as many of us as possible. Civilian casualties and shields are acceptable to them, as furthering the will of Allah is the greatest good. Every one of us they kill is lowering the statistical chance that we "infect" a believer with our frivolous western lifestyle.

They will never stop, but they can be controlled. As long we have a military presence in the middle east, they have a military target.

Our soldiers may have many reasons for joining, but the bottom line is; they stare into face war over there every day so that we have to look at pictures to even know what that looks like.

Minimizing United States' civilian losses is exactly what our government officials are elected for. We aren't leaving. Our soldiers are not coming home.

Sorry to break it to you.

/Sgt Otter, I owe you a beer.
 
2009-11-27 01:39:16 AM
A stunning series of pictures.

No politics for me today, just a sincere Happy Thanksgiving to my American cousins.
 
2009-11-27 01:40:41 AM
kxs401: TheGhostofFarkPast: Sgt Otter: insolent_bystander: jimi32: Soooooo....17 of the 9/11 attackers were from Saudi, so let's invade... wait for it...Iraq!

1/10. nice try. keep it about the holiday and how any of the service members in Afghanistan, as well as the rest of the world, would much rather be anywhere else today than there.

/spent Thanksgiving 2005 at Kandahar AF
//played an entire season of NCAA 2005 that day
///glad to be inside the wire for the meal (and eggnog in a can)

I had Thanksgiving 2007 in Iraq, outside the wire. We had a Combat Outpost set up away from our main Forward Operating Base. Our Support Company had their cooks make us Thanksgiving at the COP, using a Mobile Kitchen Tent. We split the platoon in half so one half could grab dinner, while the other half maintained the patrol, then rotate through for dinner.

Unfortunately, word got out in Fobbitville that Fox News would be doing a live broadcast from the COP, where you could say hi to the folks back home. They all raced out to the COP, ate up all of our farking food (despite already having eaten the really nice Thanksgiving at the main Dining Facility at the FOB), and then began telling bullshiat "war stories" for the camera.

What little turkey we had left, we had to give to our local Iraqi interpreters, and a few important locals we had invited over, so we had cold ham. It was pretty hilarious when one of our biatch-slapped some POGue and took back a sweet potato pie. Those assholes had already eaten all the pumpkin pie.



/At least the ham was pretty decent.

And let me guess Haliburton charged the US $100 a head for that meal probably which you didn't get any of.

/always dig the Sgt Otter stories

I have such a crush on Sgt Otter, but I assume I'm not even close to alone in that.



Nope. He's one of the few people on Fark whose posts I look forward to reading.
 
2009-11-27 01:46:45 AM
Jim_the_Fierce: My god. I know this is fark, but I always hate so many of you after reading threads such as this.

Point number one.



longtermtourists.com

doesn't know where to start...
 
2009-11-27 02:13:19 AM
AppleOptionEsc: Hats off to the soldiers.

Also, just a head up on the 2nd NSFW pic. It's really really really really really really not safe for anything really. It's like, on 4chan level on the gore-o-meter.


I would say the gore level is more along the lines with a mild suggestion of being a war.

Perhaps I am desensitized, but I did not find that picture disturbing. At the same time, I realize that it is horrific.

I'm glad that the west is in Afghanistan. I think we made the right choice there and appreciate the risk those over there are making. Especially since at this point they are mostly doing it to help the people be finally rid of the Taliban.
 
2009-11-27 02:13:53 AM
mud_shark: RedThree: Yo, mud_shark, how many tours have you done?

Yo RedThree how many have you done?

Are you suggesting that just because you believe it is unlikely that I've actually been to Afghanistan as part of our "war" that I should not have any opinion on it?

Really? How many tours of duty did our last 10 presidents serve?

Or am I just supposed to blindly kowtow to the opinion of someone who claims to have done KP duty in a tent in Kuwait for 3 months during Operation Desert Shield?

Oh, and Farker T go dig up another strawman because I never said shiat about them hating our freedom.

Go ahead and defend the Taliban and those who accepted them as leaders....It's exactly like the US, isn't it?

Go ahead. This should be really interesting.


Put up or shut-up. If you think it is so important that we fight these wars, why aren't you fighting them? What kind of pissant, pussy, chicken-shiat, hypocritical coward sits there urging our troops to war while you sip Mike's Cold Lemonades with your buddies in Colorado? If you served, then I owe you an apology. But I am pretty damn sure that with your limited world-view, you likely have never left your land-locked state, and do not at all express any understanding of the world. I bet you don't even own a passport.

Nobody here is defending the Taliban, they are just questioning why we are fighting wars that have no goal that can be obtained. If the goal in Afghanistan is to overthrow the Taliban and set up a real government, the answer is easy. I could tell you how to have it done in a year or two. It starts with a draft. Draft 1-2 million Americans, train them up and ship em to Afganistan. Give people there security and meet their basic needs and opposition would have no chance of winning. We could meet the goal of setting a government there and have a chance to make the nation better and more friendly to us. Oops, we still wouldn't have Bin Laden though, as he obviously isn't there. Looks like we'll need to invade Pakistan to get him. But they have nukes, so it might be tougher.

Same thing in Iraq. Get a large enough army that we can insure safety, water, sewers, power, food, jobs, etc to the majority of Iraqis and we can win that war too. Hope you don't have any plans if you are 18-25, becasue we'll need you to join up and ship out.

Of course that would never farking happen because America would not stand for these wars if we were drafting their sons and daughters and shipping them out, because deep down we all know that Afghanistan and Iraq are no real threat to our lives or way of life. So we sit here and posture and spout crap to one another while young american men and women continue to get maimed, destroyed and twisted and our politicians continue to fail.
 
2009-11-27 02:17:28 AM
I have not gotten an email or call from my husband for several days and he is probably out on the road somewhere in Iraq so I am really getting a kick sobbing right now.

/sorry to be the debbie downer but I have had a bad night.
 
2009-11-27 02:32:09 AM
chetbango: because deep down we all know that Afghanistan and Iraq are no real threat to our lives or way of life. So we sit here and posture and spout crap to one another while young american men and women continue to get maimed, destroyed and twisted and our politicians continue to fail.

ding ding ding...

we have a whinnah.
 
2009-11-27 02:43:55 AM
Lord Farkwad: Sgt Otter: Deruke: Can someone please explain the patch on this man's jacket?

A magnet, what appears to be a steaming pile of shiat, and the letters "A POS", which I'm reading as "A Piece of shiat". WTF?

/Hot like Afghanistan

They're unrelated.shiat Magnet = The guy in the platoon who inexplicably draws the most fire.

A POS = Blood type.



Shiat magnet? Looks like a Allah magnet to me.


Same difference?
 
2009-11-27 02:59:39 AM
Best wishes and a long life to each and every one of you motherfarkers.

Do your job and come back home alive.
 
2009-11-27 03:01:35 AM
Deruke: Can someone please explain the patch on this man's jacket?

A magnet, what appears to be a steaming pile of shiat, and the letters "A POS", which I'm reading as "A Piece of shiat". WTF?




Two separate patches.

1) shiat Magnet

2) A-Positive blood type.
 
2009-11-27 03:32:49 AM
"Jim_the_Fierce
Afghanistan was invaded directly as a result of their association with the Taliban, who have been at war with the United Sates for generations now. "

I think you need to change "at war with" to "allies with"

fits better, more accurate too
 
2009-11-27 04:37:17 AM
I was for intervention in Afghanistan (and against same in Iraq) since 9/11. Now, I am not so sure what the West is fighting for there. Against terrorist breeding grounds? Against the Taliban regaining power? Both? I can understand the former, but am not so sure anymore about the latter. If the populace is so inclined not to fight the Taliban themselves through building up proper government and military institutions, maybe they deserve to be under Taliban rule. Sad to say. Of course, if the Taliban regain power and use that power to set up terrorist training camps, then it's not just the Afghans that are affected and the West has more justification to fight Taliban rule.
 
2009-11-27 04:40:35 AM
ace in your face: I have not gotten an email or call from my husband for several days and he is probably out on the road somewhere in Iraq so I am really getting a kick sobbing right now.

/sorry to be the debbie downer but I have had a bad night.


No, not a downer but just a normal human reaction to a loved one in danger. I hope he is safe!
 
2009-11-27 04:56:58 AM
Big Al 2009-11-27 03:32:49 AM
"Jim_the_Fierce
Afghanistan was invaded directly as a result of their association with the Taliban, who have been at war with the United Sates for generations now. "

I think you need to change "at war with" to "allies with"

fits better, more accurate too


Yeah sure, when they were fighting the soviets and not playing nice with Iran, but remember when they started blowing up U.S. embassies in '98 and the whole Clinton cruise missile thing?

To be fair though, that isn't "generations" exactly, I just figure that now it's younger guys trying to blow our things up.

Besides, I was on a soapbox. I think I did pretty well for that to be the only decent counterpoint so far.
 
2009-11-27 06:03:32 AM
Dropped in to get my dose of Fark and had to sit and read the entire thread....
First off, to all who said thanks for our service, we thank you for that, more than you can possibly imagine.
Second, To those who despise us....Sorry, we have made a choice to do what our country asks of us. We don't have to like it, or even agree with it. It is our way of paying back our debt to our nation for our daily freedoms.
Finally, To those who said "Kill 'em all", I ask you to think about what that says about you, because it is not what it says about our training OR our humanity.
\Third tour in Iraq
\\'03-04, '06-07, '09-10
\\\Retiring soon after I return....
\\\\carry on
 
2009-11-27 08:00:42 AM
www.users.on.net

Remember Abeer Hamza.
 
2009-11-27 08:52:52 AM
punistation: Remember Abeer Hamza.

Crawl back in your hole you farking troll
 
2009-11-27 09:56:02 AM
terpconnect.umd.edu
 
2009-11-27 10:34:10 AM
veryequiped: Bring the troops home! Stop letting them die for corrupt politicians!

Anyone that supports this war can easily find an Army recruitment form on the Army website. Grab yourself a gun if you think this is right.


.....Nice advice. Now how about you EABOD and pay attention.

The people that believe in service to others before self already joined up. The people that believe in self before service post snarky little comments on Fark saying how stupid the military is.

I wonder which one you fit in to?

/did my time, came home in one piece
//too many friends came home in boxes
///I live my life for them, now.
 
2009-11-27 11:00:09 AM
Some of those comments made Fark look like recess at a day care.
 
2009-11-27 11:21:03 AM
Those pictures were touching..
And intense.
 
2009-11-27 12:24:41 PM
What_do_you_want_now: veryequiped: Bring the troops home! Stop letting them die for corrupt politicians!

Anyone that supports this war can easily find an Army recruitment form on the Army website. Grab yourself a gun if you think this is right.

.....Nice advice. Now how about you EABOD and pay attention.

The people that believe in service to others before self already joined up. The people that believe in self before service post snarky little comments on Fark saying how stupid the military is.

I wonder which one you fit in to?

/did my time, came home in one piece
//too many friends came home in boxes
///I live my life for them, now.


Well douche, I would appreciate it if you didn't misquote my statements. I also doubt your claims of service, and call you a fraud.

The military men and women are the cream of the crop, they also agree with me.

They know they aren't there helping people, why do you think they are guarding poppy fields in Afghanistan? Because they know this isn't a war of defense, it's a war of conquest and making money for the rich guys.

If my country was attacked, I'd be the first in line to defend it, but I will not die for lies, and neither should these fine men and women!
 
2009-11-27 01:17:54 PM
AppleOptionEsc: Hats off to the soldiers.

Also, just a head up on the 2nd NSFW pic. It's really really really really really really not safe for anything really. It's like, on 4chan level on the gore-o-meter.


I didn't dare click on it after a quick glance at the first NSFW one. My stomach is still lurching.
 
2009-11-27 03:06:38 PM
esteban9: ace in your face: I have not gotten an email or call from my husband for several days and he is probably out on the road somewhere in Iraq so I am really getting a kick sobbing right now.

/sorry to be the debbie downer but I have had a bad night.

No, not a downer but just a normal human reaction to a loved one in danger. I hope he is safe!


He called finally this morning. He is safe and on a base and I am feeling a whole lot better. THanks for the concern! :)
 
2009-11-27 03:24:36 PM
ace in your face: esteban9: ace in your face: I have not gotten an email or call from my husband for several days and he is probably out on the road somewhere in Iraq so I am really getting a kick sobbing right now.

/sorry to be the debbie downer but I have had a bad night.

No, not a downer but just a normal human reaction to a loved one in danger. I hope he is safe!

He called finally this morning. He is safe and on a base and I am feeling a whole lot better. THanks for the concern! :)


Glad to hear he is OK, my heart goes out to all the families with loved ones in war zones. Know that your sacrifices are noted and appreciated by many of us.
 
2009-11-27 03:56:32 PM
pic makes it clear that our military are pussies. My son dressed as a member of the 101st(airborne, clarksville,TN) for Halloween. When asked what he was he sad "A rapist". Hilarious.
 
2009-11-27 05:43:46 PM
ace in your face: esteban9: ace in your face: I have not gotten an email or call from my husband for several days and he is probably out on the road somewhere in Iraq so I am really getting a kick sobbing right now.

/sorry to be the debbie downer but I have had a bad night.

No, not a downer but just a normal human reaction to a loved one in danger. I hope he is safe!

He called finally this morning. He is safe and on a base and I am feeling a whole lot better. THanks for the concern! :)


COOL he is safe (he SHOULD be, he is not generally, and .... why is that ?)

but errr.... he is in another country wandering around waving guns
how do you think that makes the OTHER wives (the ones who live there) feel

HE is the shiat that scares people
Bring him the fark home and tell him to stop scaring people (particularly his darling wife)
 
2009-11-27 07:32:34 PM
Killface08 2009-11-27 03:56:32 PM
our military are pussies.

(kicks you in the nads)

My son dressed as a member of the 101st(airborne,clarksville,TN) for Halloween.
When asked what he was he said "A rapist".


(kicks your kid in the ass with considerably reduced force)

Hilarious.

(kicks you in the nads again twice as hard as the
first time because you seem to have raised your
kid to be a twuntbag)
 
2009-11-27 07:59:44 PM
Killface08: pic makes it clear that our military are pussies. My son dressed as a member of the 101st(airborne, clarksville,TN) for Halloween. When asked what he was he sad "A rapist". Hilarious.

Why do threads like this make the douchebags come out of the woodwork?
 
2009-11-27 10:52:35 PM
hariseldon:
The cycle must be broken and while the "reformation" of Islam ought to be done by Muslims, the West must help it along by forcing the separation of mosque and state and the first step on that road is teaching the children.


We have separation (barely) of church and state in this country because that is our choice. As much as you or I may dislike theocratic rule, how these people choose to govern themselves is something they must determine, and they alone. The decision cannot be made simply for our convenience. I'm sure you wouldn't want someone coming into your country and changing your government for you, and these people most likely feel the same way.
 
2009-11-27 11:09:22 PM
Farker T:

To me it would seem profitable to make an attempt at decyphering their motives:

Why do they want to fark with us?


Because the west is messing with their religions, their societies, their politics, and their countries, and have been doing so since the Crusades - but mostly in the last century, and because of one thing - OIL.

Are we doing things that are either threatening them or pissing them off?

See above.

If so, what? And is there some way that we could STOP doing those things?

Yup. Renewable energy. We can build atom bombs, we can do this.

I know that this concept is a radical shock to the collective ego of the US (and that's one hell of an ego), but really, why not take the chance?

I think most americans who have picked up a newspaper or cracked a book in the past 20 years realize exactly why some in the Middle East despise us, despite the rubes in some parts of the country whining "WHY DO THEY HATE US??? WAAAAHHHHH!" after september 11th, 2001. We know why, yet there are huge corporations (and the politicians they support) who will never let this region of the world go. There motives are none of flyover country's concern, as long as they get cheap gas for their SUV's.
 
2009-11-28 01:04:08 AM
Slartibartfaster: ace in your face: esteban9: ace in your face: I have not gotten an email or call from my husband for several days and he is probably out on the road somewhere in Iraq so I am really getting a kick sobbing right now.

/sorry to be the debbie downer but I have had a bad night.

No, not a downer but just a normal human reaction to a loved one in danger. I hope he is safe!

He called finally this morning. He is safe and on a base and I am feeling a whole lot better. THanks for the concern! :)

COOL he is safe (he SHOULD be, he is not generally, and .... why is that ?)

but errr.... he is in another country wandering around waving guns
how do you think that makes the OTHER wives (the ones who live there) feel

HE is the shiat that scares people
Bring him the fark home and tell him to stop scaring people (particularly his darling wife)


I don't know where you get off being such an out and out douchebag. I guess it is fark after all though.

1. No he is not waving around guns. His job is cleaning up and turning in old used equipment. Pretty much no one in Iraq shoots their guns anymore, certainly not at civilians or pointing guns at them.

2. HE isn't scaring me. Unlike you I am intelligent enough to know that it is the US government who commands soldiers to go to war. He doesn't want to be at war. I don't want him to be at war. Pretty much no soldiers anymore want us to be at war. But they still do all want a job and health insurance and a free education. How about you get busy actually giving a fark and try and elect some decent people into office (if you haven't succeeded you need to find better candidates and try harder). I have actively supported candidates who oppose the war and organized numerous peace demonstrations. What have you done? biatch at Blue Star wives on fark? Bashing soldiers is for retards who don't understand how governments and politics work. Open a damn book and get involved. You are the person that is letting the government get off too easily by placing blame on the wrong people.
 
2009-11-28 04:16:25 AM
johnny_vegas: punistation: Remember Abeer Hamza.

Crawl back in your hole you farking troll


I had to look that up because either 1) I never heard about it before or 2) I blocked it out like many of the other horrible things I've read on the internet. I wish I hadn't read about that.
 
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