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(CNN)   Emergency vehicles don't explode after all: FBI retracts warning about exploding firetrucks   (cnn.com) divider line 23
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2001-09-19 01:06:24 PM
Huzzah, the media is great with their over reacting in the name of money!

Wonder if they retract statements about people trying to steal ambulances in florida to cause more havoc...
 
2001-09-19 01:08:55 PM
YESSSS...fbi gets it right this time
 
2001-09-19 01:24:56 PM
"I was advised that that was a mistake, that that message was sent out," said Special Agent John Sennett of the FBI's office in Albany, N.Y.

Ok, so does this guy have problems with the American English language, or does he stutter?
 
2001-09-19 01:37:49 PM

Another sensationalized Fark title.

The vehicles themselves don't explode, but rather they could be used to carry explosives into secure areas. Personally, I would still consider this a threat.

 
2001-09-19 01:40:46 PM
If firetrucks can carry water, they can carry other liquids....

So there is a minor threat, however I would consider it a little suspicious if the guy is pumping 89 octane into the water tank.
 
2001-09-19 01:41:03 PM
And kids could go into the grocery store and make bombs out of oven cleaner and tinfoil!! SHREIK AHHH!!!

Get the noodles ready, the hysteria is almost at a full boil.
 
2001-09-19 01:56:38 PM
If it explodes, who do they call to extinguish the fire?
 
2001-09-19 02:12:29 PM
Diesel fuel doesn't generally explode unless you mix it with ammonium nitrate and touch it off with a ¼ stick of dynamite.

NO, I don't intend to try this!
 
2001-09-19 02:14:34 PM
Double the damage. The craftieness of some people makes me paranoid.
 
2001-09-19 02:16:36 PM
Oompaloopa, not only did you butt in, but you probably got the attention of some jumpy law enforcement agencies too. Ouch.
 
2001-09-19 02:22:58 PM
Maybe sidecrab is the jumpy one.

Didn't know you were having a private discussion.

I'll butt back out again.
 
2001-09-19 02:28:16 PM
No, I meant a respnse. Not disscusion. Anyways, everybody's looking over their shoulder. Everyone's a suspect......
 
2001-09-19 02:49:59 PM
Pooper_scooper: Tuesday's FBI warning had said fire and emergency service vehicles could be stolen by terrorist groups and turned into rolling bombs aimed at military bases or other government installations.

So yes, the vehicles themselves do explode. Or at least that's what the FBI originally warned about. I agree that some farkticle titles are blatantly misleading, but as the submitter of this article I believe this is hardly one of them. If you disagree, you are more than welcome not to read it.
 
2001-09-19 03:47:37 PM
This actually has some meaning for me. I live in a smallish town of about 90 000. We've got a mental hospital, one of the biggest in the province. Anyway, one day there were firemen down at the mental hospital and one of the patients, who was out for a walk, stole a fire truck and drove it like mad until he lost control and crashed it not too far away.
 
2001-09-19 03:53:26 PM
BigTuna: I objected to your choice of title (quote: "Emergency vehicles don't explode after all...") because I felt that the article was not addressing that fact at all, rather that the FBI had issued a warning without "...credible or specific threat." Hence, I stand by my opinion that your title is misleading.
 
2001-09-19 04:27:50 PM
Hey. Hasn't anybody been to a movie lately? ALL vehicles explode, particularly official units. Huge flames.
 
2001-09-19 06:07:15 PM
Hey. Hasn't anybody been to a movie lately? ALL vehicles explode, particularly official units. Huge flames.

Holy fark he's right! Thank you magic movie machines!
 
2001-09-19 06:32:08 PM
I was at a science fiction convention a bit ago, and got into a conversation with a first time sf conventioner. He made the comment that he wanted to try the desil fuel thing (probably on a soft target) so I told him about a good super dooper explosive that he could make in his own house.

Pity we probably won't see him at next years convention.

And don't ask, friends don't tell friends about this stuff.
 
2001-09-19 08:49:07 PM
Oompaloompa: Diesel fuel doesn't explode? What do you think was in the jets last week?

Diesel is kerosene is jet fuel (mostly). Yeah, it doesn't doesn't combust nearly as readily as gasoline, but I'm pretty sure a high-speed collision could vaporize enough of it to spark.
 
2001-09-19 11:31:23 PM
Diesel fuel doesn't ignite well with sparks; diesel engines combust by compressing the fuel with the pistons.

Firefighters may now put those sidearms away, with their highly flammable bullets.
 
2001-09-19 11:32:16 PM
Whoops. Anyway, that's why you don't need to run as fast from a room full of diesel with someone smoking than one full of gasoline with the same person.
 
2001-09-19 11:44:04 PM
eh, either way, flame + fuel = bad.

But just 'cause diesel is not as combustible as gasoline, doesn't mean it's safe. You're right; in a diesel engine, the fuel is compressed (just like a gasoline engine) so the glow plugs can ignite it. But a collision could very easily vaporize enough fuel to spark the diesel, we saw that last week. Highly refined kerosene can burn very readily and very hot, if it's got enough pressure to vaporize it.
 
2001-09-19 11:55:15 PM
Heh, yeah. But I wasn't saying go ahead and stick around the smoker standing in diesel, I was just trying to suggest you had more time to get away... oh, nm.
 
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