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(The New York Times)   What happens when the largest online retailer meets the largest box-store chain in history? A price-war. A price-war so large, we'll be lucky to live through it   (nytimes.com) divider line 56
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2009-11-24 08:50:29 PM
Why the hell does anyone not use Amazon? I mean you shop in your pjs and they deliver right to your door. What's not to like about this?
 
2009-11-24 08:55:40 PM
And only Taco Bell will survive.
 
2009-11-24 09:03:24 PM
Swap bodily fluids now because it'll soon be over brother.
 
2009-11-24 09:04:45 PM
"We have to put our foot down and refuse to let them grow more powerful," she said. "I applaud Wal-Mart. It's about time multichannel retailers stood up and refused to let their business go away."

Really?

Because Wal-Mart is the underdog retailer that needs protection from big bad Amazon, you insinuate?

Really?
 
2009-11-24 09:09:13 PM
I remember buying books off of Amazon when it sold only books. My first experience with buying shiat off the internet...
 
2009-11-24 09:11:25 PM
this will not end well, Chairman Obama will have to step in to save this loss of taxes when they compete.

This must stop, we can't have it. A x-box 360 for $99? What a deal.
 
2009-11-24 09:12:30 PM
came for demolition man references, leaving satisfied
 
2009-11-24 09:12:38 PM
Real simple decision for me:

Walmart - 9% sales tax
Amazon - No sales tax
 
2009-11-24 09:15:28 PM
eddyatwork: Why the hell does anyone not use Amazon? I mean you shop in your pjs and they deliver right to your door. What's not to like about this?

For stuff you have to actually try on or out, sometimes physical shops are better. Sometimes you really need to see if you look fat in these pants.

But for media/toys? Heck yeah.
 
2009-11-24 09:18:13 PM
eddyatwork: Why the hell does anyone not use Amazon? I mean you shop in your pjs and they deliver right to your door. What's not to like about this?

The delivery man who rapes me :(
 
2009-11-24 09:18:55 PM
Walmart =
home.comcast.net

Amazon =
www.rechargelounge.com.au

It's all about the landscape. Walmart devours it, Amazon doesn't.

/Pics =
i71.photobucket.com

//(hot)
 
2009-11-24 09:19:32 PM
CarnySaur: eddyatwork: Why the hell does anyone not use Amazon? I mean you shop in your pjs and they deliver right to your door. What's not to like about this?

The delivery man who rapes me :(


For free?
 
2009-11-24 09:20:34 PM
Postal Penguin: I remember buying books off of Amazon when it sold only books. My first experience with buying shiat off the internet...

Same here.

Then about 5 seconds after going to amazon.com, I realized that IF as in my wildest dreams there'd be a Japanese version, it'd be at amazon.co.jp. Typed that in, dammit, nothin'.

Kept typing that in every so often over the years, finally one day it existed! Made my life here in the US extremely extremely more convenient, and my wallet extremely extremely lighter.

Now if only amazon.jp would ship non-media items outside of the country, things would be even better...
 
2009-11-24 09:29:44 PM
E.S.Q.: It's all about the landscape. Walmart devours it, Amazon doesn't.

Hahahaha. right. because Amazon doesn't have giant warehouses, shipping centers, corporate offices, etc. That shiat just teleports out of no where into your mailbox.

/r-tard
 
2009-11-24 09:40:06 PM
I heart Amazon. That's all.
 
2009-11-24 09:42:06 PM
Honest Bender: Hahahaha. right. because Amazon doesn't have giant warehouses, shipping centers, corporate offices, etc. That shiat just teleports out of no where into your mailbox.

Really. It's not all just Amazon-specific, either (though they do have their own stuff at HQ) but huge parts of the Midwest these days are covered with endless package swapping-nodes. Huge windowless buildings with endless truck bays.
 
2009-11-24 09:48:19 PM
ShawnDoc: Real simple decision for me:

Walmart - 9% sales tax
Amazon - No sales tax


I pay sales tax at both and still prefer Amazon.

That said, stories like this are why capitalism is awesome sometimes.
 
2009-11-24 09:52:44 PM
Honest Bender: r-tard

You smoke a lot of drugs, don't you, son?

Wal-Mart's average store size (as of a few years ago) across the entire enterprise is 97,000 square feet. Multiply that by 5000+ stores worldwide, and you're talking about 485M square feet. In 2010 ALONE, Wal-Mart plans to add 21 MILLION FARKING SQUARE FEET of retail space. In case you don't quite understand, that's a lot. One acre is 43,560 square feet. You do the math.

Also, see, unlike most of Amazon's distribution network, Wal-Mart 100K+ s.f. stores need to be located where the people are, in commercial shopping areas, NOT in large industrial areas.

So WM dots them all over small towns and medium/big cities, sometimes as close as a couple miles apart.

According to the ITE (7.0), a Wal-Mart will generate about 102 car trips per 1,000 square feet PER HOUR, all day (note that a trip is one way - 102 car trips in one hour means 51 cars). Also, an average Wal-Mart expects about 8 to 16 trucks coming in every day.

Now...when E.S.Q. suggests that Wal-Mart eats up the landscape and Amazon doesn't and you try to refute it, I'm afraid that kind of makes you look like the "r-tard" in the room.

/teaches a class on Big Box Retail
 
2009-11-24 09:53:55 PM
What a price may look like:
img2.allposters.com

/hot like the sweet, life-giving, burning ember of a cigarette
 
2009-11-24 09:55:33 PM
Honest Bender: E.S.Q.: It's all about the landscape. Walmart devours it, Amazon doesn't.

Hahahaha. right. because Amazon doesn't have giant warehouses, shipping centers, corporate offices, etc. That shiat just teleports out of no where into your mailbox.

/r-tard



I'm sorry, your neighborhood must be the only one with a massive Amazon retail center.

Yes, Amazon has all those things- but so does Waltmart, plus some 3000+ stores with a rough average footprint of 150,000 square feet, plus double that number again for parking lots.


I'll let you do the math, since I'm just a simple r-tard.
 
2009-11-24 09:57:24 PM
GMTA, Dr. X... we shall meet again.
 
2009-11-24 10:04:30 PM
Infamous Dr. X: teaches a class on Big Box Retail

From what angle? Interesting sites to recommend?

/just kinda interested in some of it myself, so wouldn't mind reading around
//had no idea there were classes on it
 
2009-11-24 10:11:00 PM
It's like a dual of Titans

fandangogroovers.files.wordpress.com
 
2009-11-24 10:17:07 PM
itazurakko: Postal Penguin: I remember buying books off of Amazon when it sold only books. My first experience with buying shiat off the internet...

Same here.

Then about 5 seconds after going to amazon.com, I realized that IF as in my wildest dreams there'd be a Japanese version, it'd be at amazon.co.jp. Typed that in, dammit, nothin'.



haha I remember doing that for some really rare CDs I was looking for back in the day, since Japan had so many awesome bonus tracks I always had to get them.

/ahh the memories before the internet was so large
//dig the mp3 amazon store on both the android phones and online even their cool little download cool is handy
 
2009-11-24 10:20:38 PM
itazurakko: Really. It's not all just Amazon-specific, either (though they do have their own stuff at HQ) but huge parts of the Midwest these days are covered with endless package swapping-nodes. Huge windowless buildings with endless truck bays.

Filled with stuff made by 13 year olds in China!
 
2009-11-24 10:21:35 PM
E.S.Q.: Yes, Amazon has all those things- but so does Waltmart, plus some 3000+ stores with a rough average footprint of 150,000 square feet, plus double that number again for parking lots.

Why do we care again?
 
2009-11-24 10:43:07 PM
I bought my textbooks this fall with Amazon. I saved some money and plan on getting 1/4 of it back when I sell them back. I looked a Amazon's stock listing today and it hasn't been that high since it was back in 1999. The company must be doing something right.
 
2009-11-25 12:17:47 AM
Was that headline an attempt at a "Hunt For Red October" reference?

If so, the price war wouldn't be large, it would be out of control.
 
2009-11-25 12:22:33 AM
CarnySaur: eddyatwork: Why the hell does anyone not use Amazon? I mean you shop in your pjs and they deliver right to your door. What's not to like about this?

The delivery man who rapes me :(


Sorry, I thought you liked it and were role-playing. My bad.
 
2009-11-25 01:06:34 AM
Amazon's had some awesome deals leading up to Black Friday. Just last week I jumped on a smoking hot coupon code that netted me the Blu-Ray versions of Up (4-disk), Monsters Inc (4-disk), and Cars all for a total of $35 with tax and free shipping. Beats the heck out of any of the Blu-Ray deals in the leaked ads.

The deal seems to still be on for anyone who wants some good Pixar eye candy for cheap. (new window)
 
2009-11-25 01:08:38 AM
This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and our profit margins will be lucky to live through it.
 
2009-11-25 01:38:22 AM
dummidumbwit.files.wordpress.com
Amazon

vs.

media.peopleofwalmart.com
Wal-Mart


/links like Lynda Carter
 
2009-11-25 03:51:24 AM
media.peopleofwalmart.com
media.peopleofwalmart.com
media.peopleofwalmart.com

Reasons number 1 2 & 3 not to shop at Wal-Mart.

BTW: I love the way the article, or at least those interviewed for it, make it sound as if Wal-Mart and Amazon.com are your only two choices out there....
 
2009-11-25 03:53:21 AM
media.peopleofwalmart.com


and we have a winner!
 
2009-11-25 04:05:56 AM
Wal-Mart will win. This isn't really even hard to predict. Amazon will always be there but if a price war is what they want then Wal-Mart will spank them.

And for one simple reason: Wal-Mart lives and breaths low prices.

That being said Amazon needs to do this because if Wal-Mart really gets its online sales going then they are doomed.

And in response to earlier in the thread, Wal-Mart is expanding mainly internationally and most of their new stores are environmentally friendly. And Wal-Mart does not put many stores in highly developed areas. Mainly because they don't want competition next door to them.
 
2009-11-25 04:59:13 AM
candriessen: and we have a winner!

hawt!!!
 
2009-11-25 05:02:49 AM
Wal-mart has varying classes of customers depending on the time of day you go there. During the morning it's old people. Afternoon, less old people, more housewives or people without jobs. Evening up to 9pm is people getting off work. 9 to midnight is slackers or people who are otherwise bored. Midnight to 2am is people who are drunk, smell, insomniacs, unkempt, etc... And 2am to 6am you get the people who talk funny and walk with a limp.
 
2009-11-25 05:46:09 AM
itazurakko: Postal Penguin: I remember buying books off of Amazon when it sold only books. My first experience with buying shiat off the internet...

Same here.

Then about 5 seconds after going to amazon.com, I realized that IF as in my wildest dreams there'd be a Japanese version, it'd be at amazon.co.jp. Typed that in, dammit, nothin'.

Kept typing that in every so often over the years, finally one day it existed! Made my life here in the US extremely extremely more convenient, and my wallet extremely extremely lighter.

Now if only amazon.jp would ship non-media items outside of the country, things would be even better...


While I haven't tried it, getting stuff from amazon.co.jp outside of Japan seems relatively easy - just use one of the mail forwarding companies. I'd state that this would cost you, but amazon.co.jp's international shipping costs are absurd anyway. 2700yen per shipment, 300yen per book? No thanks.

These companies will also let you consolidate packages, which will help against Amazon's love of shipping everything in its own cardboard box regardless of the "group my items" setting. Plus, you get the ability to lie on the customs declaration...
 
2009-11-25 09:18:29 AM
What happens when the largest online retailer meets the largest box-store chain in history? A price-war. A price-war so large, we'll be lucky to live through it

WALMART AND AMAZON! *clicks link* I was right!

Amazon is like the Walmart of the internet, it will be interesting to see how this turns out
 
2009-11-25 09:55:57 AM
If Amazon is going up against Wal-Mart... I must buy something from Amazon just to support them.

f.u. Wal-mart... you redneck enticing, neighborhood crowding, manufacturer strong-arming, douche nozzles.
 
2009-11-25 10:37:42 AM
candriessen: and we have a winner!

That's just foul.
 
2009-11-25 11:21:27 AM
Infamous Dr. X
E.S.Q.


Thanks for proving your R-tardness. I never said Amazon consumes more land than Wallmart. I'm not sure why you would attack me on that concept. I'd think it's a pretty obvious point.

The point was that, contrary to E.S.Q.'s insinuation, Amazon does in fact have quiet a bit of physical infrastructure.
 
2009-11-25 11:35:10 AM
E.S.Q.: "We have to put our foot down and refuse to let them grow more powerful," she said. "I applaud Wal-Mart. It's about time multichannel retailers stood up and refused to let their business go away."

Really?

Because Wal-Mart is the underdog retailer that needs protection from big bad Amazon, you insinuate?

Really?


Because the state and local municipalities do not get sales tax from Amazon. You are hurting your state and local governments by not shoping in brick and morter stores.
 
2009-11-25 11:39:43 AM
Sales taxes suck anyway...if they need to raise property/income taxes to offset sales taxes, fine by me.

Besides, you're supposed to pay "use" taxes on anything you buy out of state that was untaxed or taxed below your in-state sales tax rate.
 
2009-11-25 11:47:27 AM
As long as Amazon continues to offer free shipping, Walmart is going to lose out to Amazon in high-tax states like California, where the sales tax is at 10% in some areas. I buy almost everything that's taxable online these days because of this.
 
2009-11-25 12:02:05 PM
Yes Wal-Mart will win , just like they always do.

Except Sam's Club didn't take down Costco.
And the DVD rental system didn't even dent blockbuster.com, much less Netflix.
Didn't they try an mp3 online store as well?
 
2009-11-25 12:16:38 PM
candriessen: and we have a winner!

WTF, she has reverse boobies? Or are those wings so the pig can fly?
 
2009-11-25 01:11:06 PM
Honest Bender: Infamous Dr. X
E.S.Q.

Thanks for proving your R-tardness. I never said Amazon consumes more land than Wallmart. I'm not sure why you would attack me on that concept. I'd think it's a pretty obvious point.

The point was that, contrary to E.S.Q.'s insinuation, Amazon does in fact have quiet a bit of physical infrastructure.




I'm amazed at you. You state a point is obvious, yet chose to miss the very same obvious point of my initial post.

Go argue with your mom, you need more practice.
 
2009-11-25 01:15:55 PM
Slaves2Darkness:
Because the state and local municipalities do not get sales tax from Amazon. You are hurting your state and local governments by not shoping in brick and morter stores.



Brick and mortar stores are hurting my state by not remaining competitive with online businesses, therefore chasing away tax dollars. Such is the nature of capitalism.

Side note: If one wants to give charity to their state, they don't have to wait and pay taxes to do it.
 
2009-11-25 01:31:03 PM
Amazon (and Woot, too) is the reason that I'll be home in my jammies on Friday morning sipping nice coffee and enjoying a cinnamon roll, after I've slept in for a while.

Many of my friends will be out among 'em in the chaos of "Black Friday".

Why anyone would do that is unfathomable to me, when you can do just as well or better by planning ahead a bit.

Oh, and I don't ever spend one dime at any store owned by Wal-Mart. So there's that.

/done shopping, just need to wrap.
//may place another Amazon order for fun, just to support them. My birthday's coming up!!
 
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