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(LA Times)   When schools remove chocolate milk from the cafeteria they are simultanously bombarded with student protests and expensive dairy industry media campaigns   (latimes.com) divider line 103
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2009-11-21 03:00:55 PM
Taking sugar and dairy from fat kids?
That's a riot.
 
2009-11-21 03:01:09 PM
When chocolate milk is outlawed...
 
2009-11-21 03:02:12 PM
Is sugar-free chocolate milk not an option? Can't they get creative?
 
2009-11-21 03:03:38 PM
First, any gorgor pics are going to be frightening.

Second, chocolate is the only thing that makes milk taste decent. Aside from when I use it on cooking, I can't consume the stuff. It always tastes "off"
 
2009-11-21 03:04:22 PM
MFAWG: When chocolate milk is outlawed...

switch to Ovaltine.
 
2009-11-21 03:07:57 PM
It's cool.

www.nowwithvitaminr.com
 
2009-11-21 03:12:43 PM
Demand expensive mineral water instead.
 
2009-11-21 03:13:04 PM
I don't get why we give milk to non-babies.
 
2009-11-21 03:13:48 PM
look, I would have less problem with them serving 'flavored' milk, if it wasn't like every other 'flavored' natural product from industry- they dump in about 5 to 10 times as much flavoring as needed. Lemon in water tastes delicious with a little sugar, its know as "lemonade", but to industry, this means 10 parts sugar, 5 parts water, 1 part lemon.
Add a little flavoring to make things interesting, sure, but dump it full of sugar and sweeteners? YUCK.
 
2009-11-21 03:15:42 PM
Getting rid of chocolate milk is just stupid. Plain and simple.
 
2009-11-21 03:16:24 PM
I would never allow people to take away delicious chocolate milk away from anyone.
 
2009-11-21 03:16:43 PM
lelio: I don't get why we give milk to non-babies.

It's a tasty easy-to-ship and easy-to-store complete protein well-tolerated by most people whose ancestors didn't come from a backward culture without dairy livestock.
 
2009-11-21 03:17:50 PM
If this happened at my school when I was in the 5th grade, I'd probably react the same way. Then I discovered whole milk in middle school, and chocolate milk didn't seem to matter that much.
 
2009-11-21 03:18:35 PM
Katie98_KT: look, I would have less problem with them serving 'flavored' milk, if it wasn't like every other 'flavored' natural product from industry- they dump in about 5 to 10 times as much flavoring as needed. Lemon in water tastes delicious with a little sugar, its know as "lemonade", but to industry, this means 10 parts sugar, 5 parts water, 1 part lemon.
Add a little flavoring to make things interesting, sure, but dump it full of sugar and sweeteners? YUCK.


Exactly! If I get lemonade from a fountain, I tend to fill it about 20% with the lemonade and 80% with the water and it's still usually too sugary. Same thing with Propel and other drinks. I usually drink one empty and then use it to split future bottles 50/50. Of course, at that point i'm not complaining because I get twice as much for what I pay (which is a ripoff anyway).

But, seriously, why are "healthy" drinks loading up on the sugar? (Milk, OJ, etc). I've started seeing "50% less sugar" orange juice now, which STILL has added sugar. Where's the "natural, no sweeteners added" orange juice?
 
2009-11-21 03:19:27 PM
Need to remove snack machine, soda machines and junk food in general...but milk? Need the basic selection: Water, Whole Milk, basic Chocolate Milk...no fancy options. Kids these days are spoiled. You either brought lunch or ate what was offered period when I was in school.

Today's kids are fat, lazy and spoiled by options. In stead or conforming to the system and learning they expect the system to conform to them.

/useless rant off
 
2009-11-21 03:20:17 PM
WxAxGxS: Katie98_KT: look, I would have less problem with them serving 'flavored' milk, if it wasn't like every other 'flavored' natural product from industry- they dump in about 5 to 10 times as much flavoring as needed. Lemon in water tastes delicious with a little sugar, its know as "lemonade", but to industry, this means 10 parts sugar, 5 parts water, 1 part lemon.
Add a little flavoring to make things interesting, sure, but dump it full of sugar and sweeteners? YUCK.

Exactly! If I get lemonade from a fountain, I tend to fill it about 20% with the lemonade and 80% with the water and it's still usually too sugary. Same thing with Propel and other drinks. I usually drink one empty and then use it to split future bottles 50/50. Of course, at that point i'm not complaining because I get twice as much for what I pay (which is a ripoff anyway).

But, seriously, why are "healthy" drinks loading up on the sugar? (Milk, OJ, etc). I've started seeing "50% less sugar" orange juice now, which STILL has added sugar. Where's the "natural, no sweeteners added" orange juice?


Here ya go:

www.bonappetit.com

Squeeze away.
 
2009-11-21 03:22:08 PM
WxAxGxS: Katie98_KT: look, I would have less problem with them serving 'flavored' milk, if it wasn't like every other 'flavored' natural product from industry- they dump in about 5 to 10 times as much flavoring as needed. Lemon in water tastes delicious with a little sugar, its know as "lemonade", but to industry, this means 10 parts sugar, 5 parts water, 1 part lemon.
Add a little flavoring to make things interesting, sure, but dump it full of sugar and sweeteners? YUCK.

Exactly! If I get lemonade from a fountain, I tend to fill it about 20% with the lemonade and 80% with the water and it's still usually too sugary. Same thing with Propel and other drinks. I usually drink one empty and then use it to split future bottles 50/50. Of course, at that point i'm not complaining because I get twice as much for what I pay (which is a ripoff anyway).

But, seriously, why are "healthy" drinks loading up on the sugar? (Milk, OJ, etc). I've started seeing "50% less sugar" orange juice now, which STILL has added sugar. Where's the "natural, no sweeteners added" orange juice?


what drives me nuts is iced tea. Sometimes, crazily enough, I don't have time or effort to brew the tea at home. I'd like to buy a prepacked bottle of tea to go with my lunch. Unfortunately, there is no iced tea. There is only flavored sugar water. Some of them flavor the water with sugar, some with honey, some with artificial sweeteners.
its absolutely disgusting.
 
2009-11-21 03:23:31 PM
I don't really understand what they miss about it. Low- or non-fat chocolate milk is repulsive, even plain whole milk tastes better.
 
2009-11-21 03:23:38 PM
yogaFLAME: It's cool.

profile.ak.fbcdn.net
(BTW, do not do a GIS for MIAK on a work comp. Lesson learned.)
 
2009-11-21 03:24:14 PM
The Face Of Oblivion: lelio: I don't get why we give milk to non-babies.

It's a tasty easy-to-ship and easy-to-store complete protein well-tolerated by most people whose ancestors didn't come from a backward culture without dairy livestock.


Unless you live in a backward culture you are probably getting too much fat and protein from everthing else in your diet to justify drinking a glass full of it.
 
2009-11-21 03:24:59 PM
I drank the chocolate milk because the regular milk tasted like it had been watered down quite a bit, and quite frankly, milk water is gross.
 
2009-11-21 03:25:08 PM
SourImplant: yogaFLAME: It's cool.


(BTW, do not do a GIS for MIAK on a work comp. Lesson learned.)


Came for Miak, left satisfied knowhatImean?
 
2009-11-21 03:26:27 PM
Katie98_KT: WxAxGxS: Katie98_KT: look, I would have less problem with them serving 'flavored' milk, if it wasn't like every other 'flavored' natural product from industry- they dump in about 5 to 10 times as much flavoring as needed. Lemon in water tastes delicious with a little sugar, its know as "lemonade", but to industry, this means 10 parts sugar, 5 parts water, 1 part lemon.
Add a little flavoring to make things interesting, sure, but dump it full of sugar and sweeteners? YUCK.

Exactly! If I get lemonade from a fountain, I tend to fill it about 20% with the lemonade and 80% with the water and it's still usually too sugary. Same thing with Propel and other drinks. I usually drink one empty and then use it to split future bottles 50/50. Of course, at that point i'm not complaining because I get twice as much for what I pay (which is a ripoff anyway).

But, seriously, why are "healthy" drinks loading up on the sugar? (Milk, OJ, etc). I've started seeing "50% less sugar" orange juice now, which STILL has added sugar. Where's the "natural, no sweeteners added" orange juice?

what drives me nuts is iced tea. Sometimes, crazily enough, I don't have time or effort to brew the tea at home. I'd like to buy a prepacked bottle of tea to go with my lunch. Unfortunately, there is no iced tea. There is only flavored sugar water. Some of them flavor the water with sugar, some with honey, some with artificial sweeteners.
its absolutely disgusting.


I made the mistake of buying sweet tea once. I was somewhat happy that I managed to not throw up drinking that. It tasted like my usual monthly intake of sugar in one 20 oz can.

I've also gotten sweet tea ordering iced tea in restaurants.
 
2009-11-21 03:27:05 PM
wildsnowllama: MFAWG: When chocolate milk is outlawed...

switch to Ovaltine.


A crummy commercial?
 
2009-11-21 03:28:31 PM
f4rmerbob: Where's the "natural, no sweeteners added" orange juice?

Florida.
 
2009-11-21 03:29:12 PM
ZeroCorpse: WxAxGxS: Katie98_KT: look, I would have less problem with them serving 'flavored' milk, if it wasn't like every other 'flavored' natural product from industry- they dump in about 5 to 10 times as much flavoring as needed. Lemon in water tastes delicious with a little sugar, its know as "lemonade", but to industry, this means 10 parts sugar, 5 parts water, 1 part lemon.
Add a little flavoring to make things interesting, sure, but dump it full of sugar and sweeteners? YUCK.

Exactly! If I get lemonade from a fountain, I tend to fill it about 20% with the lemonade and 80% with the water and it's still usually too sugary. Same thing with Propel and other drinks. I usually drink one empty and then use it to split future bottles 50/50. Of course, at that point i'm not complaining because I get twice as much for what I pay (which is a ripoff anyway).

But, seriously, why are "healthy" drinks loading up on the sugar? (Milk, OJ, etc). I've started seeing "50% less sugar" orange juice now, which STILL has added sugar. Where's the "natural, no sweeteners added" orange juice?

Here ya go:



Squeeze away.


Of course, the entire point of buying orange juice or milk is so I don't have to squeeze the shiat out myself.
 
2009-11-21 03:30:52 PM
WxAxGxS:

Of course, the entire point of buying orange juice or milk is so I don't have to squeeze the shiat out myself.


Eww.
 
2009-11-21 03:32:29 PM
Chocolate milk was the only thing I liked about elementary school. This is just wrong.
 
2009-11-21 03:32:57 PM
I recall a lot of kids drinking chocolate milk with their lunch when I was younger. I've always been a fan of sweets, but drinking it with a meal never appealed to me. I think it's more of an dessert or stand alone thing.
 
2009-11-21 03:33:08 PM
I's pretty much a wash caloriewise, since the chocolate milk served is typically low-fat. A little more sugar, less fat than whole milk. Same protein, calcium, and added vitamins of course.

Of course, when you add the factor of whether the kids drink it or not in, that comparison goes out the window. It comes down to kids drinking less milk, and whether that is good or bad.
 
2009-11-21 03:33:28 PM
Katie98_KT:
what drives me nuts is iced tea. Sometimes, crazily enough, I don't have time or effort to brew the tea at home. I'd like to buy a prepacked bottle of tea to go with my lunch. Unfortunately, there is no iced tea. There is only flavored sugar water. Some of them flavor the water with sugar, some with honey, some with artificial sweeteners.
its absolutely disgusting.


And this is "coffee."

www.coffeemakersetc.com
I don't know what it is, but it's not coffee.
 
2009-11-21 03:33:53 PM
southern78: Need to remove snack machine, soda machines and junk food in general...but milk? Need the basic selection: Water, Whole Milk, basic Chocolate Milk...no fancy options. Kids these days are spoiled. You either brought lunch or ate what was offered period when I was in school.

Today's kids are fat, lazy and spoiled by options. In stead or conforming to the system and learning they expect the system to conform to them.

/useless rant off


So they're fat and lazy but they're non-conformist? So they protest while lying down eating tubs of lard?

And kids being non-conformist is a new phenomenon since when?
 
2009-11-21 03:35:27 PM
Kiralio: I don't really understand what they miss about it. Low- or non-fat chocolate milk is repulsive, even plain whole milk tastes better.

Maybe I'm the only one, but I find any type of chocolate milk repulsive.

Can jug plain whole milk all day long though.
 
2009-11-21 03:38:02 PM
FTFA: "Flavored milk has more calories from the sweeteners that are in it. There's no getting around that," said Dr. Frank Greer, former chairman of the American Academy of Pediatrics' nutrition committee. "It is an uncomfortable position to be in when you're asked this question. I say it comes down to too many calories or, well, it's better than other things in the soda machine."

www.gasdetection.com
 
2009-11-21 03:40:25 PM
WxAxGxS: Of course, the entire point of buying orange juice or milk is so I don't have to squeeze the shiat out myself.

I know you are talking about an orange, but it still applies to milk:
Best: Premade chocolate milk
Middle: Nesquick Powder
worst: Nesquick syrup

Also, the best chocolate milk ever was the Whole Chocolate Milk I found in Kamloops. Amazing.
 
2009-11-21 03:41:41 PM
Get a tupper ware type pitcher (about 2 litres is good) put in 4-6 teabags and fill with water. You can adjust the strength by figuring out how many bags to use. Put this pitcher in the fridge, in a few hours you have iced tea. No need to boil water. Enjoy!

Katie98_KT: WxAxGxS: Katie98_KT: look, I would have less problem with them serving 'flavored' milk, if it wasn't like every other 'flavored' natural product from industry- they dump in about 5 to 10 times as much flavoring as needed. Lemon in water tastes delicious with a little sugar, its know as "lemonade", but to industry, this means 10 parts sugar, 5 parts water, 1 part lemon.
Add a little flavoring to make things interesting, sure, but dump it full of sugar and sweeteners? YUCK.

Exactly! If I get lemonade from a fountain, I tend to fill it about 20% with the lemonade and 80% with the water and it's still usually too sugary. Same thing with Propel and other drinks. I usually drink one empty and then use it to split future bottles 50/50. Of course, at that point i'm not complaining because I get twice as much for what I pay (which is a ripoff anyway).

But, seriously, why are "healthy" drinks loading up on the sugar? (Milk, OJ, etc). I've started seeing "50% less sugar" orange juice now, which STILL has added sugar. Where's the "natural, no sweeteners added" orange juice?

what drives me nuts is iced tea. Sometimes, crazily enough, I don't have time or effort to brew the tea at home. I'd like to buy a prepacked bottle of tea to go with my lunch. Unfortunately, there is no iced tea. There is only flavored sugar water. Some of them flavor the water with sugar, some with honey, some with artificial sweeteners.
its absolutely disgusting.
 
2009-11-21 03:43:05 PM
Why can't kids drink water? I don't know how bad this calcium deficiency epidemic is, but it seems like I see a few more fat people than I see old folks hunch-backed with osteoporosis.
 
2009-11-21 03:43:30 PM
southern78: Need to remove snack machine, soda machines and junk food in general...but milk? Need the basic selection: Water, Whole Milk, basic Chocolate Milk...no fancy options. Kids these days are spoiled. You either brought lunch or ate what was offered period when I was in school.

Today's kids are fat, lazy and spoiled by options. In stead or conforming to the system and learning they expect the system to conform to them.

/useless rant off



When I was in school, they made us climb up a hill to get to the chow hut, and then they fed us rocks, rusty screws, and pickled brussels sprouts... In a trough!

Sometimes we'd ask for ketchup, and the lunch ladies would have free reign to beat us with sticks until we apologized. After lunch, we were marched single-file to the vomitorium, where we were forced to return our lunch so the underclassmen might have something to eat.

If we were really good, they'd let us spend a nickel to fill our athletic cup full of well water. Chocolate? If wanted something like chocolate, we had to pick the well out back, by the privvy, and that weren't exactly "chocolate", if you know what I mean.

I believe it was in nineteen dickity seven that we finally got milk, but it was recycled.
 
2009-11-21 03:45:58 PM
ShavedApe: FTFA: "Flavored milk has more calories from the sweeteners that are in it. There's no getting around that," said Dr. Frank Greer, former chairman of the American Academy of Pediatrics' nutrition committee. "It is an uncomfortable position to be in when you're asked this question. I say it comes down to too many calories or, well, it's better than other things in the soda machine."

Splenda is bitter and causes headaches. That 600x sweeter is bullshiat, it tastes about what I'd imagine those silica packets in packaging would taste like. Sweet'N Low FTW.
 
2009-11-21 03:49:12 PM
National health organizations agree that milk, whatever its flavor, has benefits for young bodies.

Lol wtf. Chocolate milk is not a kind of milk. It is milk mixed with something else.
 
2009-11-21 03:49:20 PM
Growth hormone-laden milk makes girls develop early and ample-y. Lets keep the milk in schools.
 
2009-11-21 03:49:53 PM
Quadruplator: National health organizations agree that milk, whatever its flavor, has benefits for young bodies.

Lol wtf. Chocolate milk is not a kind of milk. It is milk mixed with something else.


No, it comes from brown cows.
/Idiot.
 
2009-11-21 03:59:15 PM
Didn't they just find that the best after-workout muscle recovery drink was plain old chocolate milk?

Why keep that from growing kids?

/PE FTW
 
2009-11-21 04:02:07 PM
TheRaven7: Splenda is bitter and causes headaches. That 600x sweeter is bullshiat, it tastes about what I'd imagine those silica packets in packaging would taste like.

Not far off. Splenda is CHLORINE.

No shiat.

They discovered that chlorine atoms were very sweet and prevented your body from absorbing sugar, so they did some jiggery-pokery, fused 2 sugar molecules with 3 chlorine molecules, and called it sucralose or Splenda.

Seriously. Just eat sugar. It's better for you than HFCS, sucralose, saccharin, or aspartame.

If you MUST have a sugar substitute, then choose stevia or stevia-sugar hybrids. Few calories, super-sweet, all-natural.

Pricey, too... But better than guzzling a 32-ounce chlorinated Coke.
 
2009-11-21 04:05:44 PM
surrenderyoursushi: Get a tupper ware type pitcher (about 2 litres is good) put in 4-6 teabags and fill with water. You can adjust the strength by figuring out how many bags to use. Put this pitcher in the fridge, in a few hours you have iced tea. No need to boil water. Enjoy!

thanks, but, that's a little difficult to do at work or when I'm out grabbing lunch on the run.
 
2009-11-21 04:08:05 PM
TheRaven7: southern

Protesting is about the only motivational thing they do..at least they are walking or most likely sitting..The fat is powerful. Non-conforming is nothing new but bowing down to their desires at the detriment of their own education and health has gotten out of hand in public schools. It has turned into more of a baby sitting service than an educational institution.
 
2009-11-21 04:10:25 PM
surrenderyoursushi: Get a tupper ware type pitcher (about 2 litres is good) put in 4-6 teabags and fill with water. You can adjust the strength by figuring out how many bags to use. Put this pitcher in the fridge, in a few hours you have iced tea. No need to boil water. Enjoy!

My problem is that I like it sweetened, and most decent sweeteners don't dissolve in cold water very well. I have to make a sugar-water sweetener myself and mix that in.

Or, I just buy a gallon of sweet tea from McCallister's Deli for $5 on double-punch day (for the loyalty card), and earn a free gallon after every third purchase.

/They use sugar
//I like sugar
///Lost weight since switching from HFCS to sugar, where possible.
 
2009-11-21 04:12:48 PM
Tyranny won't come to America riding tanks and dropping bombs, it will come with a smiling face full of concern for other people's welfare.
 
2009-11-21 04:17:12 PM
Katie98_KT: surrenderyoursushi: Get a tupper ware type pitcher (about 2 litres is good) put in 4-6 teabags and fill with water. You can adjust the strength by figuring out how many bags to use. Put this pitcher in the fridge, in a few hours you have iced tea. No need to boil water. Enjoy!

thanks, but, that's a little difficult to do at work or when I'm out grabbing lunch on the run.


Well it's not hard to carry a bottle of iced tea with you to work, or brew it in the work fridge... but if you would prefer sugar/calories/crapflavor over convenience, have at it.
 
2009-11-21 04:22:43 PM
surrenderyoursushi: Katie98_KT: surrenderyoursushi: Get a tupper ware type pitcher (about 2 litres is good) put in 4-6 teabags and fill with water. You can adjust the strength by figuring out how many bags to use. Put this pitcher in the fridge, in a few hours you have iced tea. No need to boil water. Enjoy!

thanks, but, that's a little difficult to do at work or when I'm out grabbing lunch on the run.

Well it's not hard to carry a bottle of iced tea with you to work, or brew it in the work fridge... but if you would prefer sugar/calories/crapflavor over convenience, have at it.


... SOMETIMES I need to BUY THINGS ON THE GO or perhaps I'd like a snack in the afternoon at work. Also, you assume I have a fridge at work.
Yes, you're right, it *is* possible to brew tea at home, take it with me, sit it at my desk, somehow keep it cold, etc etc.
It's also possible to mill flour myself and bake bread from scratch everyday. That doesn't mean its reasonable and therefore I am precluded from biatching about HFCS in the pre-made bread at the grocery store.

don't be a whiney biatch because I'd already considered your suggestion and discarded it as "not fitting my life"
 
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