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(KOMU)   Farker gets injured in Iraq. Now the government refuses to give TSGLI benefits, claiming that his paralysis doesn't qualify as a "traumatic event". W/Video containing pics of what a traumatic event might look like   (komu.com) divider line 362
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2009-11-19 12:52:21 PM  
He also said the government can't afford to cover injuries from vaccines.

How many people are getting injured from vaccines?
 
2009-11-19 12:58:59 PM  
Which Farker is that?
 
2009-11-19 12:59:00 PM  
netweavr: He also said the government can't afford to cover injuries from vaccines.

How many people are getting injured from vaccines?


Ever seen a small pox vaccine go bad?
 
2009-11-19 01:02:27 PM  
Was that article ever proofread? I mean damn...
 
2009-11-19 01:12:20 PM  
netweavr: How many people are getting injured from vaccines?

This, but also... so what, he got an injury from an accident which happened ON THE JOB. He got the vaccine because he was required to as part of the gig.

So how on EARTH can they not cover treatment? People die in regular accidents in the foreign field too, not just combat, there are accidents with vehicles and equipment, do they refuse to cover treatment for all those too? It's crazy.

Meanwhile all the best wishes for his recovery. Sounds like at least his arms recovered quicker.
 
2009-11-19 01:17:15 PM  
An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: Ever seen a small pox vaccine go bad?

yeah, um, RTFA if you want to know what happens.
 
2009-11-19 01:18:01 PM  
Eddy Gurge: Was that article ever proofread? I mean damn...

Let me get this straight: Here's an article about an American hero getting screwed by his government and you're worried about some grammar? Seriously?

Here's the Reader's Digest version: Kid graduates high school, joins Marines, gets sent to Iraq (to fight for your sorry ass and your freedom), gets a vaccine that paralyzes him, goes back home, has unbelievable medical bills, and the government says "sorry, not our problem". Got it? Good. Now look up your congressman's name, then your senator's name and shoot them an e-mail telling them to get this, and other heroes, bills paid. Now.
 
2009-11-19 01:23:23 PM  
The legislation being discussed is Senate bill S.1467 (new window) TSGLI is a lump sum payment made to most service members evacuated from the warzone, depending on their injuries. The gov estimates that it will cost $7 million a year to extend benefits if I remember correctly.
 
2009-11-19 01:28:05 PM  
Weequay2: The legislation being discussed is Senate bill S.1467 (new window) TSGLI is a lump sum payment made to most service members evacuated from the warzone, depending on their injuries. The gov estimates that it will cost $7 million a year to extend benefits if I remember correctly.

Better to pay these heroes $7M, even $7B a year, than to pay those clowns on Wall Street any amount. Where are our priorities as a country?

/Lump sum, my ass. They put it on the line for us, now it's our turn to take care of them. For life.
 
2009-11-19 01:34:52 PM  
superdolfan1: Weequay2: The legislation being discussed is Senate bill S.1467 (new window) TSGLI is a lump sum payment made to most service members evacuated from the warzone, depending on their injuries. The gov estimates that it will cost $7 million a year to extend benefits if I remember correctly.

Better to pay these heroes $7M, even $7B a year, than to pay those clowns on Wall Street any amount. Where are our priorities as a country?

/Lump sum, my ass. They put it on the line for us, now it's our turn to take care of them. For life.


The 7 mil would cover TSGLI benefits to any servicemember injured by a vaccine. TSGLI helps with non-medical expenses. The VA also currently covers medical care at a VA hospital. and you are right, it is disgusting to have the gov completely turn their back while they give billions to other stimulus programs that I feel are much less deserving.
 
2009-11-19 01:55:07 PM  
Sad :(
 
2009-11-19 02:02:39 PM  
superdolfan1: (to fight for your sorry ass and your freedom)

Iraq poses no threat to my freedom.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the sacrifices people who sign up for the service makes, but I'm tired of being told that they are fighting for my freedom. They're fighting for oil.

/not real popular viewpoint, I know.
 
2009-11-19 02:06:31 PM  
doublesecretprobation: yeah, um, RTFA if you want to know what happens.

don't have to read it.. we saw it. Standing in line, getting our shots before we deployed. Watched people throw up immediately.. later on.. dehydrate.. arms swell up so bad BDU's didn't fit..headaches etc..
Saw it live. Not good.
 
2009-11-19 02:07:25 PM  
benlonghair: superdolfan1: (to fight for your sorry ass and your freedom)

Iraq poses no threat to my freedom.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the sacrifices people who sign up for the service makes, but I'm tired of being told that they are fighting for my freedom. They're fighting for oil.

/not real popular viewpoint, I know.


Hippie.
 
2009-11-19 02:18:29 PM  
Eddy Gurge: Was that article ever proofread? I mean damn...

yeah I typo like crazy myself but that was just horrible.
 
2009-11-19 02:23:47 PM  
A) That's a really crappy story, and I hope he turns out OK.

B) Many people are going to wonder who "the farker" is, so if that's going to be asserted in the headline, the submitter should be prepared to say who it is in the thread.

C) This is the sort of story that makes people nervous about getting any vaccine.
 
2009-11-19 02:27:33 PM  
When I was in the service you didnt have a choice if you wanted vaccines or not.. if the VA isnt going to cover them then getting the vaccine should be optional.

A little over 17 years ago I was ordered to receive vaccines before I was deployed for Desert Shield / Storm. Has this changed?
 
2009-11-19 02:29:05 PM  
benlonghair: superdolfan1: (to fight for your sorry ass and your freedom)

Iraq poses no threat to my freedom.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the sacrifices people who sign up for the service makes, but I'm tired of being told that they are fighting for my freedom. They're fighting for oil.

/not real popular viewpoint, I know.


I'm not going to get into some political debate with you about the merits of the war, as I don't enjoy taking advantage of an intellectually inferior opponent.

Suffice it to say that the reasons for the war in Iraq are irrelevant when it comes to the topic in this thread.

The young man in question, like all service members, signed up to fight for your freedom. Where he was sent was not up to him, as he was sent where they needed him, and he gladly went, knowing that this is what was being asked of him. In my book, that makes him a Hero with a capital H, as he should be to you, and he should be taken care of, not only today, but for as long as he needs help.
 
2009-11-19 02:30:36 PM  
me texan: When I was in the service you didnt have a choice if you wanted vaccines or not.. if the VA isnt going to cover them then getting the vaccine should be optional.

A little over 17 years ago I was ordered to receive vaccines before I was deployed for Desert Shield / Storm. Has this changed?


No.
 
2009-11-19 02:32:50 PM  
Eddy Gurge: Was that article ever proofread? I mean damn...

It's broadcast news. People who fail at the writing part of journalism school become broadcasters.

/Journalism school graduate
//Print journalism major
 
2009-11-19 02:32:56 PM  
I don't get it...if the vaccine is required as part of service, he should be compensated.
 
2009-11-19 02:33:43 PM  
superdolfan1: No.

Then its bullshiat... they should cover it. Really its bullshiat either way and should be covered... but without the option to decline there's no one in their right mind that can deny that its a service related injury.
 
2009-11-19 02:39:41 PM  
superdolfan1: Here's the Reader's Digest version: Kid graduates high school, joins Marines, gets sent to Iraq (to fight for your sorry ass and your freedom), gets a vaccine that paralyzes him, goes back home, has unbelievable medical bills, and the government says "sorry, not our problem". Got it? Good. Now look up your congressman's name, then your senator's name and shoot them an e-mail telling them to get this, and other heroes, bills paid. Now.

FTFY.

It's a horrible story, and I hope he gets the help he needs, but the parenthetical part isn't true.
 
2009-11-19 02:40:22 PM  
superdolfan1: Suffice it to say that the reasons for the war in Iraq are irrelevant when it comes to the topic in this thread.


0.o Dude you're the one that brought it up. Anyway...

The kid shouldn't be dicked around by the VA. Call your congressman and senators they love getting their name in the paper for making a few calls and hooking kids up. If they play their cards about it right they can even get on TV discussing how they are working hard to take care of the soldiers. It's a flag waving, political points getting, win-win for them.
 
2009-11-19 02:42:14 PM  
shiat they can segue way this into a four way CNN/FOX/MSNBC discussion about vaccines OR the VA.

Start working the phones now. Figure out who you and get to someone who can do this.
 
2009-11-19 02:54:15 PM  
WaltzingMathilda: superdolfan1: Here's the Reader's Digest version: Kid graduates high school, joins Marines, gets sent to Iraq (to fight for your sorry ass and your freedom), gets a vaccine that paralyzes him, goes back home, has unbelievable medical bills, and the government says "sorry, not our problem". Got it? Good. Now look up your congressman's name, then your senator's name and shoot them an e-mail telling them to get this, and other heroes, bills paid. Now.

FTFY.

It's a horrible story, and I hope he gets the help he needs, but the parenthetical part isn't true.


Again, I'm not going to get into the political reasoning behind the war in Iraq or Afghanistan, etc. but a lesson in the military might be in order here for some of you, as you think that freedom is free. Take a break from living in your perfect world and pay attention:

1. When a person joins the military, it is because they want to serve their country and fight for the freedom that their country gives them.
2. They take an oath to defend the Constitution. This is the same Constitution that gives YOU your freedom.
3. They do not get to choose their destination when they sign up, just what branch they serve in.
4. There's no difference between the guy that fights in Afghanistan, Iraq or sits in the Pentagon. Each and every one of them is defending your freedom.
5. Nothing has changed in the last 200+ years. The men and women of the armed services are fighting for YOU (I know I'm being repetitive, but it seems that some of you have reading comprehension issues, so I want to make sure that you get it).

Get it through your heads: they are fighting for YOU and ME. WE owe them good quality of life, regardless of how you feel about the war in Iraq (which really boils down to your dislike for the previous president, not the war in Iraq. Had Pres. Gore done it instead of Pres. Bush, you'd be all for it).

The war is not popular. It doesn't change the fact that this young man, and thousands like him, went over there to fight for you and me.

/BTW, me texan, I forgot to say: Thanks for your service to our country! Seriously. Thanks!
 
2009-11-19 03:01:47 PM  
Pocket Ninja: A) That's a really crappy story, and I hope he turns out OK.

B) Many people are going to wonder who "the farker" is, so if that's going to be asserted in the headline, the submitter should be prepared to say who it is in the thread.
.


It's me, i've been mostly a lurker for the last 5 years, I read the comment boards but never have much to say. Just figured I'd share what's been going on.
 
2009-11-19 03:03:16 PM  
benlonghair: They're fighting for oil.

I agree that they aren't fighting for my specific freedom, but dude, if they were fighting for oil, dontcha think we'd all be enjoying free gasoline by now?
 
2009-11-19 03:03:34 PM  
superdolfan1: me texan, I forgot to say: Thanks for your service to our country! Seriously. Thanks!

No thanks needed. I got a lot out of it (including my spiffy license plate) as well and a lifetime of fond memories , but you're welcome :)
 
2009-11-19 03:12:19 PM  
Nice, America is dead.
 
2009-11-19 03:12:20 PM  
He's from Springfield... so was it Doctor Nic that gave him the shot??
 
2009-11-19 03:12:51 PM  
benlonghair: They're fighting for oil.

/not real popular viewpoint, I know.


Also a moronic one.
 
2009-11-19 03:13:10 PM  
Weequay2: Pocket Ninja: A) That's a really crappy story, and I hope he turns out OK.

B) Many people are going to wonder who "the farker" is, so if that's going to be asserted in the headline, the submitter should be prepared to say who it is in the thread.
.

It's me, i've been mostly a lurker for the last 5 years, I read the comment boards but never have much to say. Just figured I'd share what's been going on.


Dude.

1. Thanks for everything you have done.
2. My condolences for the military dicking you around.
3. Do you have a fund set up?
4. I'll be writing my Senators and Congressmen on your behalf. That cool?
 
2009-11-19 03:13:19 PM  
Weequay2: It's me, i've been mostly a lurker for the last 5 years, I read the comment boards but never have much to say. Just figured I'd share what's been going on.

Best wishes.
 
2009-11-19 03:13:24 PM  
Weequay2: Pocket Ninja: A) That's a really crappy story, and I hope he turns out OK.

B) Many people are going to wonder who "the farker" is, so if that's going to be asserted in the headline, the submitter should be prepared to say who it is in the thread.
.

It's me, i've been mostly a lurker for the last 5 years, I read the comment boards but never have much to say. Just figured I'd share what's been going on.


Truly sorry. I hope you have a good lawyer.
 
2009-11-19 03:14:17 PM  
Weequay2: Pocket Ninja: A) That's a really crappy story, and I hope he turns out OK.

B) Many people are going to wonder who "the farker" is, so if that's going to be asserted in the headline, the submitter should be prepared to say who it is in the thread.
.

It's me, i've been mostly a lurker for the last 5 years, I read the comment boards but never have much to say. Just figured I'd share what's been going on.


We'll do what we can; I'm sure. Welcome home.
 
2009-11-19 03:14:36 PM  
Hopefully bringing this out in the open will get this guy the coverage and compensation he needs.
 
2009-11-19 03:14:54 PM  
superdolfan1: they are fighting for YOU and ME

the purpose of the military and what they are doing in Iraq are 2 different things. they are fighting for their orders. they are not protecting my freedom in any way. my father fought multiple tours in vietnam and would tell you the same thing.

the freedom isn't free jingoism is farking bullshiat. god bless the military because when my freedom is threatened, i know they're there. but just because they're nation building doesn't mean that has any effect on my freedom, sgt. bald eagle mcpatriot.
 
2009-11-19 03:15:05 PM  
Weequay2:
It's me, i've been mostly a lurker for the last 5 years, I read the comment boards but never have much to say. Just figured I'd share what's been going on.


Thank you for your service! I hope this gets sorted out. Best wishes to you.
 
2009-11-19 03:15:23 PM  
"gradually worked it's way up."

Great editing, guys.
 
2009-11-19 03:15:24 PM  
Weequay2: Pocket Ninja: A) That's a really crappy story, and I hope he turns out OK.

B) Many people are going to wonder who "the farker" is, so if that's going to be asserted in the headline, the submitter should be prepared to say who it is in the thread.
.

It's me, i've been mostly a lurker for the last 5 years, I read the comment boards but never have much to say. Just figured I'd share what's been going on.


Which one of you sponsored him before I got to do it?
 
2009-11-19 03:15:49 PM  
ZipSplat: benlonghair: They're fighting for oil.

/not real popular viewpoint, I know.

Also a moronic one.


It's pretty much spot on the mark actually...
 
2009-11-19 03:16:11 PM  
Before this devolves into a massive flame war. If you want some advise from someone who had to deal with the same shiat after getting half his intestines and most of his leg shredded to fine goat cheese, my EIP. I'll get you in touch with my cousin and his VA rep.
 
2009-11-19 03:16:19 PM  
thalassatx: I agree that they aren't fighting for my specific freedom, but dude, if they were fighting for oil, dontcha think we'd all be enjoying free gasoline by now?

No, because that would take away from the oil companies' profit.
 
2009-11-19 03:16:28 PM  
If extending the coverage costs only 7 million, then they should absolutely do it. Order one less [Insert expensive but unnecessary military vehicle here] each year. In any case, I'm sure their local congresscritter will have this hammered out in no time.

That said, a bit of clarification is in order. His medical benefits are not being denied, but rather the lump sum payment to cover non-medical expenses. Sort of like an insurance company paying to fix your car but not the additional costs associated with losing your car for a few days, like a rental car, bus pass or having your friends drive you to work.
 
2009-11-19 03:16:54 PM  
Weequay2: It's me, i've been mostly a lurker for the last 5 years, I read the comment boards but never have much to say. Just figured I'd share what's been going on.

Thanks for your service. Let me know who your congressman is and I'll write him a letter today. This is bullshiat. You should be covered.
 
2009-11-19 03:17:25 PM  
itazurakko: netweavr: How many people are getting injured from vaccines?

This, but also... so what, he got an injury from an accident which happened ON THE JOB. He got the vaccine because he was required to as part of the gig.

So how on EARTH can they not cover treatment? People die in regular accidents in the foreign field too, not just combat, there are accidents with vehicles and equipment, do they refuse to cover treatment for all those too? It's crazy.

Meanwhile all the best wishes for his recovery. Sounds like at least his arms recovered quicker.


Exactly. He got it from a smallpox vaccine, which most Americans don't even get . The only reason he got his is because of the military, which means they should completely cover all his needs as long as necessary.
 
2009-11-19 03:17:38 PM  
Farking outrageous. The pencil pushers responsible for this travesty need to be dragged out and horsewhipped.

/I had an opportunity to go over and help out as a civil servant, but I didn't because of the stupid Anthrax shots they wanted me to get.
 
2009-11-19 03:17:39 PM  
KentuckyBob: Nice, America is dead.

No, it's just more of the same:

Born down in a dead man's town
The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
You end up like a dog that's been beat too much
'Til you spend half your life just covering up

[chorus:]
Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.

I got in a little hometown jam
And so they put a rifle in my hands
Sent me off to Vietnam
To go and kill the yellow man

[chorus]

Come back home to the refinery
Hiring man says "Son if it was up to me"
I go down to see the V.A. man
He said "Son don't you understand"

[chorus]

I had a buddy at Khe Sahn
Fighting off the Viet Cong
They're still there, he's all gone
He had a little girl in Saigon
I got a picture of him in her arms

Down in the shadow of the penitentiary
Out by the gas fires of the refinery
I'm ten years down the road
Nowhere to run, ain't got nowhere to go

I'm a long gone Daddy in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
I'm a cool rocking Daddy in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
 
2009-11-19 03:17:52 PM  
superdolfan1: (to fight for your sorry assHalliburton and your freedomtheir profit margin)


FTFY

Iraq never had anything to do with protection American citizens, just oil.

it was purely war profiteering.
 
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