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2009-11-19 02:09:34 PM
As long as they continue to be delicious, who gives a shiat? It's not like a chicken serves any other purpose.
 
2009-11-19 02:12:36 PM
As absurd as it sounds, there's a body of research on this very topic that could prove revolutionary in the production of eggs in poultry farms.

Scientists have found that chickens are surprisingly social animals; being isolated from other birds in cages, while increasing production efficiency and capacity, increases levels of stress in the chickens. This in turn lowers egg-laying rates and overall production.

The industry has developed a means of combating this problem using this research. An inexpensive LED display screen is installed in each cage, with a rudimentary microphone and a couple of buttons below. The chicken, simply by going about its typical business, can input various data such as bird calls and scratching motions, relaying information to other nearby chickens and providing a basic stimulus to other LED screens. The patterns of activity, routed through a special computer program, in effect, networks chickens in cages and mimics the social interaction of these birds.

The prototype for this software is known as "Facebawk".
 
2009-11-19 02:19:28 PM
Cagey B: The prototype for this software is known as "Facebawk".

You BASTARD.
 
2009-11-19 02:36:09 PM
Bad journalism. The reporter should have got a quote from Maya Angelou.
 
2009-11-19 02:53:39 PM
I seem to remember the phrase "Bird Brain" being used for a person with decreased mental capacity.
 
2009-11-19 03:15:56 PM
Cagey B: The prototype for this software is known as "Facebawk".

That's... that's clucked up.
 
2009-11-19 03:16:56 PM
 
2009-11-19 03:18:17 PM
Chickens are dumb.

put a bag on their head and they think its night time and go to sleep.
 
2009-11-19 03:23:36 PM
And the almost as old question, "Do I care?"

Actually, I can answer that one for you right now. No.
 
2009-11-19 03:24:09 PM
I say, I say, I say

/had to
 
2009-11-19 03:28:02 PM
Why do journalists even bother to get a quote from PETA? You know what they're going to say.
 
2009-11-19 03:29:56 PM
Maybe, maybe not.

But it's probably a lot easier to keep them from getting eaten by foxes, raccoons, opossums, ringtails, hawks, owls, skunks, etc. if you keep them in a cage.

/I lose a lot of chickens to the local fauna when I forget to close the coop at night.
//my free range chickens support a whole ecosystem
 
2009-11-19 03:31:03 PM
Why would anyone think the word "happy" could possibly apply to something like a chicken?

(I know, it's because we anthropomorphize everything . . .)
 
2009-11-19 03:32:07 PM
I dunno if they are happy, but I can say that they are delicious.
 
2009-11-19 03:33:25 PM
Seems like Farkers are...

So just give the chickens internet access and an account of Fark.

Problem solved.
 
2009-11-19 03:33:46 PM
Mkay, looks like I get to be the bleeding heart who has a 'cool story, bro'.

We have a flock of around 7 chickens at home, and they are absolutely the best farm animals you can have in an environment where others are not a possibility. Yes, they can be noisy (for example, there's one hen that the others don't like that much and they will hide from her while she calls), yes they aren't the brightest crayons in the box, but we haven't had Japanese Beetles around our lawn for years now, and the tick population has taken a huge hit, almost to the point where we don't need to Frontline our cats and dogs. Plus we get delicious eggs.

If you compare our free-range (and we're talking truly free-range, not the commercialized version they try to sell you at the market) eggs to the stuff you buy in the store, I can garuntee that you'll be horrified. Our eggs have clear whites (meaning no contamination from stress or bad food), and the yolks are ORANGE. Not that pasty white shiat you get from the store, but orange, meaning they're stuffed with the vitamins and fatty acids that do a body good.

So no, I don't think the chickens are happy. And I think I'd very happily pay 1.50 for the eggs I buy when I'm at college if it meant that the chickens were happy and healthy.

img.photobucket.com

/pays the 3.60 for the free-range ones
//brings eggs from home whenever she can
 
2009-11-19 03:36:38 PM
you think those chickens are your friends???

those farking chickens would DEVOUR you if they were big enough!

those chickens aren't getting any pity from me!

if it was up to me i'd have a new Law saying that all of those chickens that have to get slaughtered have to die by slaughter with whiffle ball bats!fark those chickens and everyone who "feels bad" for the farking chickens!
 
2009-11-19 03:38:45 PM
Cagey B: As absurd as it sounds, there's a body of research on this very topic that could prove revolutionary in the production of eggs in poultry farms.

Scientists have found that chickens are surprisingly social animals; being isolated from other birds in cages, while increasing production efficiency and capacity, increases levels of stress in the chickens. This in turn lowers egg-laying rates and overall production.

The industry has developed a means of combating this problem using this research. An inexpensive LED display screen is installed in each cage, with a rudimentary microphone and a couple of buttons below. The chicken, simply by going about its typical business, can input various data such as bird calls and scratching motions, relaying information to other nearby chickens and providing a basic stimulus to other LED screens. The patterns of activity, routed through a special computer program, in effect, networks chickens in cages and mimics the social interaction of these birds.

The prototype for this software is known as "Facebawk".


GQR!

/guffawed quite robustly
 
2009-11-19 03:40:06 PM
We have four chickens ourselves. The eggs we get from them are definitely noticeably different than store bought eggs. Plus, they are a surprisingly cool backyard pet. You can pretty much ignore them except to open and close the chicken coop and they're perfectly happy. The kids love 'em, my oldest son can go out and pick one up and carry it like a football and the chickens make no attempt to run away. Actually, they like to get in the house because then they can eat the leftover cat food. Yes, they crap on the floor sometimes, but a paper towel can clean up the linoleum in short order.
 
2009-11-19 03:44:49 PM
i178.photobucket.com
 
2009-11-19 03:46:58 PM
Spindle: We have four chickens ourselves. The eggs we get from them are definitely noticeably different than store bought eggs. Plus, they are a surprisingly cool backyard pet. You can pretty much ignore them except to open and close the chicken coop and they're perfectly happy. The kids love 'em, my oldest son can go out and pick one up and carry it like a football and the chickens make no attempt to run away. Actually, they like to get in the house because then they can eat the leftover cat food. Yes, they crap on the floor sometimes, but a paper towel can clean up the linoleum in short order.

Your floor sounds shiatty.
 
2009-11-19 03:51:39 PM
Pictures of our old chickens, because I'm bored and at work.
img.photobucket.com
img.photobucket.com
 
2009-11-19 03:57:45 PM
MaxxLarge: As long as they continue to be delicious, who gives a shiat? It's not like a republican serves any other purpose.

TheMadChaosopher: you think those chickens are your friends???

those farking chickens would DEVOUR you if they were big enough!

those chickens aren't getting any pity from me!

if it was up to me i'd have a new Law saying that all of those chickens that have to get slaughtered have to die by slaughter with whiffle ball bats!fark those chickens and everyone who "feels bad" for the farking chickens!


You are an intensely stupid excuse for a human being. Wait, you couldn't understand that sentence. Lemme try again....

YOU DUMB. YOU BAD FOLK.

BlorfMaster: Chickens are dumb.

put a bag on their head and they think its night time and go to sleep.


Republicans/blacks/women are dumb. Maybe not as dumb as chickens, but dumb enough to deserve whatever treatment they get from us. Am i right guys?

If they don't want to be raped they can become stronger so they can stop me. Until then... can = should. If she can't stop me, it's my right. If blacks can't resist enslavement, they deserve it. If animals can't say "hey, I have rights and feeling and nerve endings", they don't.

pearls before swine: Why would anyone think the word "happy" could possibly apply to something like a chicken?

(I know, it's because we anthropomorphize everything . . .)


Same way it could apply to a dog or cat. Ever see a happy or unhappy dog? Just because it can't pull up a chair and say "Hey, we need to talk", doesn't mean that they don't have any feelings, such as they are.

How can happy apply to a baby or a retarded person? Should we be as cavalier about them?

The bible is just a book, btw.

Some animals when caged and otherwise abused, begin self mutilating. Sound like any other species we know?
 
2009-11-19 03:59:05 PM
BrynnMacFlynn: Mkay, looks like I get to be the bleeding heart who has a 'cool story, bro'.

We have a flock of around 7 chickens at home, and they are absolutely the best farm animals you can have in an environment where others are not a possibility. Yes, they can be noisy (for example, there's one hen that the others don't like that much and they will hide from her while she calls), yes they aren't the brightest crayons in the box, but we haven't had Japanese Beetles around our lawn for years now, and the tick population has taken a huge hit, almost to the point where we don't need to Frontline our cats and dogs. Plus we get delicious eggs.

If you compare our free-range (and we're talking truly free-range, not the commercialized version they try to sell you at the market) eggs to the stuff you buy in the store, I can garuntee that you'll be horrified. Our eggs have clear whites (meaning no contamination from stress or bad food), and the yolks are ORANGE. Not that pasty white shiat you get from the store, but orange, meaning they're stuffed with the vitamins and fatty acids that do a body good.

So no, I don't think the chickens are happy. And I think I'd very happily pay 1.50 for the eggs I buy when I'm at college if it meant that the chickens were happy and healthy.



/pays the 3.60 for the free-range ones
//brings eggs from home whenever she can


We have a local chicken farm in our town and a dozen grade A jumbos are $0.75 and are never more than a few days old. The jumbo eggs from them make the jumbo eggs from Wal-mart look like pigeon eggs.
 
2009-11-19 04:01:36 PM
just one left, she free ranges over 2 acres. Wakes me up each morning at the back door, wants her ration of a bread slice. It seems to0 be like crack for the chickens. Handfed, she gets insulted if I simply throw on the ground.
 
2009-11-19 04:01:49 PM
Krymson Tyde:

Your floor sounds shiatty.


Nah, not really, they don't really crap all that much to begin with and we don't leave them in the house that long anyway.

Do you know anyone that has ferrets and lets them run around the house for any amount of time? They are *much* worse for crapping everywhere, and much messier.
 
2009-11-19 04:06:03 PM
Nightmaretony: just one left, she free ranges over 2 acres. Wakes me up each morning at the back door, wants her ration of a bread slice. It seems to0 be like crack for the chickens. Handfed, she gets insulted if I simply throw on the ground.

Hehe, ours go nuts if they don't get their daily ration of stale bread. Of course, we have to lock up the idiot dogs or they'll steal it from the chickens

/chickens get their revenge by stealing dog and cat food whenever possible
//our chickens aren't cannibals, noooo
 
2009-11-19 04:07:32 PM
My Aunt has a farm in WV and the chickens were all over the place. They slept in a common roost, but were never caged in. The thing I remember is that they all laid different color eggs...one laid brown, one blue, one a greenish blue, one white and one yellowish. The second thing I remember is that they laid their eggs wherever. So we would get up in the AM and go find eggs on the lawn, in the roost, in the garden, etc.

They were good eggs tho. If I ever have a farm, I'll probably have chickens.
 
2009-11-19 04:11:37 PM
Spindle, I got my bird a diaper. Problem solved.

auroranorth.com
 
2009-11-19 04:12:50 PM
Karmacidal: Spindle, I got my bird a diaper. Problem solved.

... head_asplode.gif

That is adorable.
 
2009-11-19 04:23:59 PM
Assistant: Well they certainly look happy. In fact they seem to be grinning from ear to ear.

Professor Chicken: They aren't smiling you blithering idiot, we cut their beaks off so they would stop pecking each other's eyes out.
 
2009-11-19 04:25:02 PM
Evolutionarily, chickens (especially the factory farm variety) are fascinating. They, as a species, have worked themselves into a little niche whereby they exist in perpetuity by the billions simply by being delicious and stupid.
 
2009-11-19 04:28:25 PM
Spindle: Krymson Tyde:

Your floor sounds shiatty.

Nah, not really, they don't really crap all that much to begin with and we don't leave them in the house that long anyway.

Do you know anyone that has ferrets and lets them run around the house for any amount of time? They are *much* worse for crapping everywhere, and much messier.


We have a cockatiel who likes to shiat on me as soon as he gets the opportunity.
 
2009-11-19 04:34:48 PM
I've always thought food from happy animals tastes better. At least that is what the California Cheese commercials tell me.
 
2009-11-19 04:35:09 PM
The sad, sad tale of Chickenfoot:

www.invaderzim.tv

"Neither man nor chicken! Something in-between! A... a chickeny man!"
 
2009-11-19 04:48:46 PM
BrynnMacFlynn: If you compare our free-range (and we're talking truly free-range, not the commercialized version they try to sell you at the market) eggs to the stuff you buy in the store, I can garuntee that you'll be horrified. Our eggs have clear whites (meaning no contamination from stress or bad food), and the yolks are ORANGE. Not that pasty white shiat you get from the store, but orange, meaning they're stuffed with the vitamins and fatty acids that do a body good.

I've bought free-range chicken eggs directly from farmers at the local market, so I'll back up the "orange yolk" bit. It's not just that. When you open the eggs, the yolks are rounder and firmer compared to grocery store eggs. The difference, shape-wise, is like looking at a 19-year-old's firm healthy boob vs. a 90-year-old's flappy bag. The yolk's also thicker. I made french "freedom" toast with the free-range eggs and despite them being larger, I ran through 3 eggs in 7 slices because the stuff was so rich and thick. Grocery store eggs are soupier so I usually have some left over after 8.

I dunno if caged chickens are happy, but I doubt they are, if only because it's painfully obvious the free-range chickens are healthier.

/ really, really good french "freedom" toast
 
2009-11-19 04:49:30 PM
Why didn't they ask just ask billy witch doctor?
i283.photobucket.com

/dot.com
/Arise Chicken, Arise!
 
2009-11-19 04:59:06 PM
dragonchild: I've bought free-range chicken eggs directly from farmers at the local market, so I'll back up the "orange yolk" bit. It's not just that. When you open the eggs, the yolks are rounder and firmer compared to grocery store eggs. The difference, shape-wise, is like looking at a 19-year-old's firm healthy boob vs. a 90-year-old's flappy bag. The yolk's also thicker. I made french "freedom" toast with the free-range eggs and despite them being larger, I ran through 3 eggs in 7 slices because the stuff was so rich and thick. Grocery store eggs are soupier so I usually have some left over after 8.

I dunno if caged chickens are happy, but I doubt they are, if only because it's painfully obvious the free-range chickens are healthier.

/ really, really good french "freedom" toast


You know you're making good chocolate chip cookies when the dough/batter is yellowy from the eggs. :D
 
2009-11-19 05:04:10 PM
I know why the caged bird sings.
 
2009-11-19 05:05:43 PM
Cock-a-ring-a-vibratin'-doo
 
2009-11-19 05:05:51 PM
Chickens are like onions.
 
2009-11-19 05:15:27 PM
notmtwain: Chickens are like delicious with onions.
 
2009-11-19 05:42:49 PM
They had their time for the last 100 million years and their dinosaur ancestors didn't give a damn whether their prey lived wholesome, fulfilling lives before becoming an appetizer. It's our time now, motherfarkers... impale their neo-Jurassic asses on the spit and roast 'em up!
 
2009-11-19 05:47:03 PM
Thank god someone is looking out for the chickens. I myself own two chickens, a boy and a girl. But I don't feel they're safe here with some of you animals, so I'm taking them and going home.

Now where were they?

Hey, will somebody help me find my cock and pullet?
 
2009-11-19 05:48:28 PM
No,

and they aren't nearly as healthy to eat either and they are pumped full of hormones so they'll be fat and ready to slaughter at 6 weeks old.



but that's ok, because the Corporate chicken frkkk is contaminating our food supply and laughing all the way to the bank.

isn't Freedom great!!
 
2009-11-19 06:05:18 PM
I don't think PETA would like this video
Link (new window)Not Safe For Dinner
 
2009-11-19 06:09:55 PM
Cagey B

You sir, are a cock.


/well played ;)
 
2009-11-19 06:12:42 PM
BrynnMacFlynn: Nightmaretony: just one left, she free ranges over 2 acres. Wakes me up each morning at the back door, wants her ration of a bread slice. It seems to0 be like crack for the chickens. Handfed, she gets insulted if I simply throw on the ground.

Hehe, ours go nuts if they don't get their daily ration of stale bread. Of course, we have to lock up the idiot dogs or they'll steal it from the chickens

/chickens get their revenge by stealing dog and cat food whenever possible
//our chickens aren't cannibals, noooo


you ever get any bully chickens or totally rtarded ones that have nothing better to do than attack every other chicken in their way? Had a couple of that kind. Pecking order is one thing, but some make a full time job of it. Those kind don't last long at my place....
 
2009-11-19 06:25:05 PM
...

I've heard that chickens can keep themselves entertained indoors...


www.comptropolis.com



/hot wings, and everything else
 
2009-11-19 06:25:35 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

Mike the Headless Chicken (new window)

Personally, I do think they deserve to move around and a chance at living the good life, but people need to know that they don't have human emotions.
Also, I don't know if we want to destroy more wilderness to accommodate the space needed for them to live "happily". How do you judge which animals get to live normally?
 
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