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(Buffalo News)   Old & Busted: Zero Tolerance. New hotness: School administrators force parents to attend re-education meetings   (buffalonews.com) divider line 177
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2009-11-18 10:55:54 AM
You can't have "re-education" without being educated in the first place, subby.
 
2009-11-18 11:30:59 AM
I loathe the word "mandatory".
 
2009-11-18 11:33:24 AM
which makes students ineligible for extracurricular activities if their parents do not attend.

yawn, wouldnt it be cheaper (in this terribad economy) to just ban all extracurricular activities?

I thought we sent the kids to school to be educated, not socialized and entertained.

/I guess we really send the kids to school to be babysat.
 
2009-11-18 11:35:01 AM
You know who used to force people into 're-education', don't you?
 
2009-11-18 11:55:17 AM
Do something unique, VOTE IN THE SCHOOL ELECTIONS! Make the Board of Education FEAR you. The simple fact that most people don't turn out for school board and budget elections lets these self appointed dictators make whatever edicts they want. WAKE UP SHEEPLE, they work for you! Treat them that way.
 
2009-11-18 12:19:25 PM
lajimi: VOTE IN THE SCHOOL ELECTIONS!

Like this matters. There were four positions for the school board. There were four candidates for the positions and they were all endorsed by the demicans and the republicrats so there wasn't much of a choice.
 
2009-11-18 12:32:05 PM
And the students who need the extracurricular activities the most are the ones whose parents won't show up.

/It almost sounds like they would prefer not having the activities and axing them from the budget
 
2009-11-18 12:47:27 PM
Rev. Skarekroe: I loathe the word "mandatory".

I know, it's so sexist, right? It should be persondatory.
 
2009-11-18 01:11:36 PM
dittybopper: You know who used to force people into 're-education', don't you?

Undisputed lord and master of the world Ned Flanders?
 
2009-11-18 01:24:56 PM
So, this took place in Alabama, then?
 
2009-11-18 02:23:06 PM
MacEnvy: Rev. Skarekroe: I loathe the word "mandatory".

I know, it's so sexist, right? It should be persondatory.


Speciesist.
 
2009-11-18 02:24:44 PM
Do the parents get a test at the end which goes on their kid's transcript?

Micromanagement. Spreading the blame as wide as possible.
 
2009-11-18 02:26:10 PM
eddyatwork: lajimi: VOTE IN THE SCHOOL ELECTIONS!

Like this matters. There were four positions for the school board. There were four candidates for the positions and they were all endorsed by the demicans and the republicrats so there wasn't much of a choice.


So run for the board.
 
2009-11-18 02:28:45 PM
Re-Neducation?

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2009-11-18 02:28:55 PM
Cagey B: dittybopper: You know who used to force people into 're-education', don't you?

Undisputed lord and master of the world Ned Flanders?


Came here for this. Leaving with a jar.
 
2009-11-18 02:29:41 PM
Well, if parents didn't abdicate their authority as parents constatly to their local public schools, then schools wouldn't take it upon themselves that they have this sort of authority.

In other words, if parents won't be parents, don't be surprised of an apparatus of the state steps in to be the parent for you.
 
2009-11-18 02:30:10 PM
dittybopper: You know who else used to force people into 're-education', don't you?

FTFY
 
2009-11-18 02:30:19 PM
jjorsett: So run for the board.

No way, there's better money in dealing drugs. Fewer meetings too.
 
2009-11-18 02:30:30 PM
I had a sweet home alcohol and drug meeting once.

It was sweet.

/Dude.
 
2009-11-18 02:30:32 PM
Yeah, parents shouldn't be forced to be involved in their kids lives, after all it's the teachers job to raise the kids..isn't is?

/I'm plan on subcontracting all my parental responsibilities to someone else when I have children.
 
2009-11-18 02:32:02 PM
namatad: which makes students ineligible for extracurricular activities if their parents do not attend.

yawn, wouldnt it be cheaper (in this terribad economy) to just ban all extracurricular activities?

I thought we sent the kids to school to be educated, not socialized and entertained.

/I guess we really send the kids to school to be babysat.


Socialization is just as important as education! Now that we have successfully done away with the education part we've got to start ensuring the next generation of high school graduates is as maladjusted as they are stupid.

Also, I'm guessing you don't have kids?
 
2009-11-18 02:32:19 PM
namatad: not socialized and entertained.

you sound homeschooled.
 
2009-11-18 02:32:23 PM
dearjesus.files.wordpress.com

approves.
 
2009-11-18 02:32:30 PM
This is stupid and will not work.
Having said that, My wife and I have taken over raising my 10 Y.O. grandson, and last week there was a meeting at his school at 6:00 p.m. on internet safety. We took my grandson and it was somewhat informative, but sadly there were only 13 student/parent families out of an entire primary school. 13. This is probably the largest reason that our education system is failing so. Lack of parental involvement.
 
2009-11-18 02:33:02 PM
If it were my kids school I would be sure to let them know how I felt about it. Loudly, often, and during the program.
 
2009-11-18 02:33:16 PM
"God made an idiot for practice, then he made a school board."
-Mark Twain
 
2009-11-18 02:34:11 PM
A Shambling Mound: Also, I'm guessing you don't have kids?

he could also just be like 85 years old and want them kids off his lawn.

The education is important, but so is the other stuff...
 
2009-11-18 02:34:25 PM
I would bring a beer with me and my kid would never be allowed in another extra curricular event. Then my wife would leave me for being such a bullheaded asshole.

This is why I would make a bad father.
 
2009-11-18 02:34:48 PM
When I saw the headline, I thought this was going to be about punishing the parents for the bad behavior of students. Then I RTFA, and saw that they want to make this mandatory for ALL parents as a pre-emtive measure. That is a terrible idea.

Some parents have child care or work schedules that make this an unreasonable burden. Other parents don't need to hear this shiat because they are already good parents. And some parents don't give a shiat if their kids get to participate in extra-curriculars.
 
2009-11-18 02:34:53 PM
namatad: which makes students ineligible for extracurricular activities if their parents do not attend.

yawn, wouldnt it be cheaper (in this terribad economy) to just ban all extracurricular activities?

I thought we sent the kids to school to be educated, not socialized and entertained.

/I guess we really send the kids to school to be babysat.


Socialization is education.

Also, I actually think this is a good idea. Maybe I'm crazy or something. Of course, the two shifts to keep above bankruptcy-sort of parents should get a waiver of a sort.
 
2009-11-18 02:36:00 PM
namatad: I thought we sent the kids to school to be educated, not socialized

Meh, I mention to people that I intend to homeschool my kids (not the wacky God created man and dinosaurs and killed off the dinosaurs and unicorns in the flood type of homeschooling) more the kind that takes over where schools have failed. I'll teach my children to challenge everything, think critically/logically, etc. Have a broad range of interests and hobbies, and explore their world intellectually around them.

But then defenders of public schools tell me that my kids need the socialization aspect (even though I plan to enroll them in local sports leagues, volunteer events, and community service organizations). So apparently because they don't get the sardine in a tin can, social cliques/heirarchies, teaching to the test/teaching to the dumbest kid in class standards, they're missing out on something.

Bah, I don't think my kids will be too heartbroken to miss out on those aspects of public "edjamakashun".
 
2009-11-18 02:36:25 PM
Devil's Playground: Having said that, My wife and I have taken over raising my 10 Y.O. grandson, and last week there was a meeting at his school at 6:00 p.m. on internet safety. We took my grandson and it was somewhat informative, but sadly there were only 13 student/parent families out of an entire primary school. 13. This is probably the largest reason that our education system is failing so. Lack of parental involvement.

Yes, but some parents probably just don't feel a need to be educated on that topic. It's like the time my office held a training session on how to use the new copier. It's not that I don't plan to use the new copier, I just can't imagine that I won't be able to figure it out on my own.
 
2009-11-18 02:36:51 PM
It seems only appropriate that waging the war on drugs escalates its interference with the lives of random citizens, keeping with the theme, ya know?
 
2009-11-18 02:36:53 PM
A Shambling Mound: namatad: which makes students ineligible for extracurricular activities if their parents do not attend.

yawn, wouldnt it be cheaper (in this terribad economy) to just ban all extracurricular activities?

I thought we sent the kids to school to be educated, not socialized and entertained.

/I guess we really send the kids to school to be babysat.

Socialization is just as important as education! Now that we have successfully done away with the education part we've got to start ensuring the next generation of high school graduates is as maladjusted as they are stupid.

Also, I'm guessing you don't have kids?


this

/has no kids
//but you have a point
 
2009-11-18 02:36:57 PM
Devil's Playground: This is probably the largest reason that our education system is failing so. Lack of parental involvement.

How am I supposed to buy a 46" plasma TV if I spend my time "parenting" instead of working?
 
2009-11-18 02:38:20 PM
xanadian: So, this took place in Alabama, then?

pw0nd.com


/ ain't no blue skies in Buffalo . . .
 
2009-11-18 02:39:05 PM
lajimi: Do something unique, VOTE IN THE SCHOOL ELECTIONS!

Bu.... bu.... but that would be disrespectful to Authority!
 
2009-11-18 02:39:12 PM
dead_dangler:
How am I supposed to buy a 46" plasma TV if I spend my time "parenting" instead of working?


Welfare.
 
2009-11-18 02:40:03 PM
Public school administrators are the soriest pieces of shiat in the human race. That said, why do we have extracurricular activities? Part of the reason we're a nation filled to the rim with mediocre dumbasses is the fact we take sports, extracurriculars, etc. more seriously then we do knowledge and intellect.
 
2009-11-18 02:40:47 PM
j__z: Yeah, parents shouldn't be forced to be involved in their kids lives, after all it's the teachers job to raise the kids..isn't is?

/I'm plan on subcontracting all my parental responsibilities to someone else when I have children.


You're missing the point entirely.

My child should be evaluated by the school solely based on his performance. My only required involvement in his activities should be to sign permission slips.

If he's late for school, he gets the detention.
If he doesn't study, he fails the test.

If I am sleeping off a hangover, and don't wake him up on time, should I get the detention?

One of the points of schooling is to develop self-sufficiency. Now, a good parent will willingly provide the appropriate support, love and ass-kicking required to encourage their child to perform well. But it is not mandatory.

Let's look at any "Movie of The Week." They all deal with some poor kid whose parents are either overworked to exhaustion or just don't care. But somehow, against all odds, the child makes a heart-warming effort and overcomes adversity and succeeds. It's Horatio Alger and the American dream all over again. Now what would happen if these kids were penalized for their parent's non-involvement? I'll tell you what would happen: Saturday afternoon movies would suck even more. I'll be stuck with more Hugh Grant stammering through another stupid rom-com or god forbid, another airing of "Stepmom".
 
2009-11-18 02:40:48 PM
conativejj: But then defenders of public schools tell me that my kids need the socialization aspect (even though I plan to enroll them in local sports leagues, volunteer events, and community service organizations). So apparently because they don't get the sardine in a tin can, social cliques/heirarchies, teaching to the test/teaching to the dumbest kid in class standards, they're missing out on something.

There is a myth that "socialization" always means "interaction with one's own peer group". Many bright children are precocious, and get a lot out of interactions with older children or adults, something that is largely denied to them in the public school system.

I learned far more about 20th century history by talking to my grandparents and their siblings/friends than I EVER did in high school.
 
2009-11-18 02:42:09 PM
Sounds like the kind of school district I would not want my kids doing EC in anyway.
 
2009-11-18 02:43:04 PM
cmb53208: Public school administrators are the soriest pieces of shiat in the human race. That said, why do we have extracurricular activities? Part of the reason we're a nation filled to the rim with mediocre dumbasses is the fact we take sports, extracurriculars, etc. more seriously then we do knowledge and intellect.

Apparently there aren't enough sports related activities though judging by the high obeisity rates in our kids. Bunch of chubby dumb as bricks snowflakes running around who think they are still entitled to a college education despite their lack of English and math skills.
 
2009-11-18 02:43:45 PM
Forcing parents to be re-educated?

AVEEEEEEEEENGE MEEEEEEEEEEE! (new window)
 
2009-11-18 02:43:46 PM
mightybaldking: One of the points of schooling is to develop self-sufficiency.

If you think the public school systems teach any sort of personal responsibility or critical thinking, you are wrong. They teach how to be obedient little consumers. If that's your definition of "self-sufficiency", you are part of the problem.
 
2009-11-18 02:44:17 PM
Devil's Playground: This is stupid and will not work.
Having said that, My wife and I have taken over raising my 10 Y.O. grandson, and last week there was a meeting at his school at 6:00 p.m. on internet safety. We took my grandson and it was somewhat informative, but sadly there were only 13 student/parent families out of an entire primary school. 13. This is probably the largest reason that our education system is failing so. Lack of parental involvement.


Ask any teacher and they'll tell you that generally, the people that do show up for meetings are people who least need to be there.
 
2009-11-18 02:44:53 PM
cmb53208: Public school administrators are the soriest pieces of shiat in the human race. That said, why do we have extracurricular activities? Part of the reason we're a nation filled to the rim with mediocre dumbasses is the fact we take sports, extracurriculars, etc. more seriously then we do knowledge and intellect.

How esle are those growing up in the getto supposed to get ahead without those b-ball skills...?

/ ducks....
 
2009-11-18 02:44:57 PM
Rapmaster2000: Avenge him.

You bastard. If I hadn't taken the time to at the extra "E"'s in "Avenge" then I would have beaten you to the punch.
 
2009-11-18 02:45:08 PM
CarriePrejean: Devil's Playground: Having said that, My wife and I have taken over raising my 10 Y.O. grandson, and last week there was a meeting at his school at 6:00 p.m. on internet safety. We took my grandson and it was somewhat informative, but sadly there were only 13 student/parent families out of an entire primary school. 13. This is probably the largest reason that our education system is failing so. Lack of parental involvement.

Yes, but some parents probably just don't feel a need to be educated on that topic. It's like the time my office held a training session on how to use the new copier. It's not that I don't plan to use the new copier, I just can't imagine that I won't be able to figure it out on my own.


I did not feel I needed educated on the subject, but I do feel an obligation to support my children ( grandson now) in his education. Believe me, I can get into all sorts of trouble on the internet all by myself. Just clicking a gorgor link, for example.
 
2009-11-18 02:45:35 PM
namatad: which makes students ineligible for extracurricular activities if their parents do not attend.

yawn, wouldnt it be cheaper (in this terribad economy) to just ban all extracurricular activities?

I thought we sent the kids to school to be educated, not socialized and entertained.

/I guess we really send the kids to school to be babysat.


I always assumed we sent them to school precisely to BE socialized and entertained. Sure felt that way to me, anyway...

/most valuable lesson: how and when to be (or not be) a dick.
//Middle school teaches you how. High school teaches you to direct it appropriately
///And College teaches you how to sound less like a dick while still being a dick.
 
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