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(Washington Post)   Coors Light it ain't: More "extreme beers" come on the market, including an IPA that aged for two months on a mackerel trawler and an ale with 225 bitterness units but only 1.1 percent alcohol   ( washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2009-11-18 02:52:14 PM  

TheOtherOne79: Hopefully not in one sitting...


That's a negative. Drink 200 beers at the Flying Saucer and you get your name on the wall and a bunch of other things. They kept "forgetting" to count the WWS so I had to have it three times before they finally put it in the computer one night.

Luthiel: Keep your fizzy yellow piss-water... it means more real beer for the rest of us.

[Pic of delicious beer]


3. Arrogant Bastard
2. Double Bastard
1. Ruination IPA

Yeah, pretty much anything Stone makes is a winner.
 
2009-11-18 02:52:30 PM  

glwtta: Snarfangel: Budweiser isn't meant to be good, it's meant to be uniform. You can have a Bud in Florida or Alaska, and it's going to be exactly the same thing. Kind of like a Big Mac.

What an odd goal.

"Mmmm... Samey!" - you just don't hear that a lot.


virginmedia.com

We fear change.
 
2009-11-18 02:55:20 PM  

Luthiel: VetteLT193: I'll take my Coors Light any day over any of the fag-fest beers that only yuppies would pay for. Coors Light is a constant in my Kegerator.... 1 of the 4 kegs in it anyway.

Keep your fizzy yellow piss-water... it means more real beer for the rest of us.


Thank you! I came in here looking for Arrogant Bastard, and I am leaving quite happy (partially because the liquor store near my house finally sells it).
 
2009-11-18 02:55:38 PM  

schattenteufel: The most "extreme" beer I've enjoyed wasn't exactly super-hoppy, but it was super flavorful.

Great Lakes Brewery occasionally makes their Barrel-Aged Blackout Stout in old bourbon barrels. The result; Bourbon Barrel Blackout Stout is without a doubt the most delicious beer I've ever had. It tastes like a lightly chocolate-flavored stout infused with a smokey bourbon.

It costs nearly $10.00 a glass, isn't available in bottles, and sells out within a few days of release.
Luckily, I live around the corner from the brewery, and had the occasion to partake.


They sell it in 22 oz bottles, which were gone by the day after the release this year.
 
2009-11-18 02:57:09 PM  

you have pee hands: phedex: UNC_Samurai: I've got an extreme idea. How about crafting beers with less hops?

You might be on to something; But then the neckbeards would have a fit.

I've said it before and i'll say it again; this super hop crap is out of control. I wish I could find more craft lagers, fruit wheats, and the like. I can't see how anyone could TRUTHFULLY say that the super hopped IPA's taste good. Like when you were a kid and would put 5 mega warheads in your mouth and play it off, like they weren't sour and nasty.

This statement alone is probably going to get me flamed, but screw it.

People like different things. I like most very hoppy beers I've had. The majority of craft beers aren't super hopped IPAs, so there aught to be enough out there for you to find new stuff you like to try.


Dont get me wrong, I respect the hop flavor, and like my local brewhouses 50-ibu ale. But to me once the beer seizes to be balanced in flavor, stout or lager or otherwise, I just tend to not like it.

ecalcott: its funny that most "beer snobs" posting here clearly don't like beer. it's easy to pick a brand that is obscure and call yourself a connoisseur but a weak pilsner is still a weak pilsner.

the hopped up beers are very, very good and if you don't like them then admit you like your yellow beers but don't dare call yourself a beer aficionado or snob. beer is supposed to have flavor, pretenders.

the best beers out there right now are:
stone's arrogant bastard
russian river's blind pig and pliney the elder
lagunitas' hop stoopid and lucky 13 ale

fyi,stone is hands down the best brewer in america right now. if you don't know that, you're not reading the trades or tasting their beer. (the special release vanilla porter has no equal.)

As stone says, "fizzy yellow beer is for wuzzies"

sincerely,
a true beer snob


See, thats the attitude I don't get. because of that slogan, I wouldnt support that company, even if they had the best beer in the world for the cheapest price; A world without sapporo would be a sad world indeed.
 
2009-11-18 02:57:47 PM  
I've liked everything I've had from Unibroue, from the mild stuff like Blanche de Chambly up through the 9% ales like Maudite and Troix Pistoles.
 
2009-11-18 02:57:50 PM  

IronJelly: Luthiel: VetteLT193: I'll take my Coors Light any day over any of the fag-fest beers that only yuppies would pay for. Coors Light is a constant in my Kegerator.... 1 of the 4 kegs in it anyway.

Keep your fizzy yellow piss-water... it means more real beer for the rest of us.

Thank you! I came in here looking for Arrogant Bastard, and I am leaving quite happy (partially because the liquor store near my house finally sells it).


The store down the street from me just started carrying Stone beers, too. I nearly had a beergasm when I saw they had them.
 
2009-11-18 02:58:41 PM  
This thread fails for not enough pics of the BEST beer in the world... KEYSTOOONE LIIIIGHT!
 
2009-11-18 02:59:51 PM  

Luthiel: VetteLT193: I'll take my Coors Light any day over any of the fag-fest beers that only yuppies would pay for. Coors Light is a constant in my Kegerator.... 1 of the 4 kegs in it anyway.

Keep your fizzy yellow piss-water... it means more real beer for the rest of us.

i31.photobucket.com


What he said.
 
2009-11-18 02:59:59 PM  
Oh, and also, if you ever find yourself around Nashville, be sure to stop by the Yazoo Brewery and ask if they've made a new batch of the Hop Project. You will not be disappointed... unless they're out of it... in which case their regular IPA is pretty strong too.

3.bp.blogspot.com

/Local breweries need love too
 
2009-11-18 03:01:12 PM  
While I'm here I thought I'd ask a question.

I'm a recent transplant to the East Coast, and I can't help but notice how hard it is to find a store with a decent beer selection out here. We moved from Arizona where you have BevMo, and well as stores like AJs that carried a bunch of good, hard to find beers in convenient locations.

I'm having a hard time finding similar stores in the D.C. area. While there are a number of good breweries in the area, finding a store that actually carries a good selection of beer has so far proved impossible.
 
2009-11-18 03:03:36 PM  
justbeer.files.wordpress.com

doubleviking.com
 
2009-11-18 03:04:00 PM  
A hop is a bittering and flavor agent. It shouldn't be the only thing you taste. While I enjoy the occasional IPA, I don't like tasting over 9000 IBUs because it's "extreme."

There's more to beer than hops.
 
2009-11-18 03:04:02 PM  
I get that a lot of people don't like the huge hop beers out there, but there is a big enough selection out there for all but the most discriminating tastes. I think the best beer I've had in a while is the Thomas Creek "Up the Creek" IPA. 12.5% and really black for the style as a bonus
 
2009-11-18 03:05:42 PM  

Talondel: Mose: I've been drinking good, but expensive lately...

You listed off a few of my favorites there, so I'm going to take the liberty of recommending a few others you may not have tried. Ommegang Chocholate Indulgence is vastly superior to Young's Double Chocolate (and I say that while noting that Young's is still great).


Also, Ommegang Abbey Ale.
 
2009-11-18 03:08:26 PM  

Sapper_Topo: This thread fails for not enough pics of the BEST beer in the world... KEYSTOOONE LIIIIGHT! Delirium Tremens


FTFY

united-nations-of-beer.com

/there was a vote
//or something
 
2009-11-18 03:11:05 PM  

Jackson Herring: Glug the Beer Slayer: just stating my opinion, never said anything against the people who drink it. as you said to each their own.

Actually your every comment was dripping with scorn for those of us who for some reason 'don't know better'.


So says the guy that thinks number of cases sold alone changes the quality of beer.
 
2009-11-18 03:11:06 PM  
I am so sick of bitter beers. I have gone back to drinking plain old Bud. It's pretty damn refreshing.
 
2009-11-18 03:12:21 PM  
Cross of Iron

i729.photobucket.com
 
2009-11-18 03:12:37 PM  
Smuttynose IPA - hands down the best IPA in americafarm3.static.flickr.com
 
2009-11-18 03:19:57 PM  

dead_dangler: You people and your "extreme" beers.

I boil 100 pounds of hops in 40 gallons of Everclear for three days, and then throw in one graham cracker. For extra fermentation, I use a strain of yeast developed by the Nazis for biological warfare.


+1. I lol'd.
 
2009-11-18 03:19:59 PM  
Coors Light brings people together.

i475.photobucket.com
 
2009-11-18 03:21:41 PM  

Algebrat: For the true connoisseur:

9.9% ABV, taurine, ginseng, caffeine, and "certified color".


NNOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!


Try this connoisseur!

[image from blog.absinthedevil.com too old to be available]

"natural color", anise, roman wormwood, grand wormwood, and many more other delicious herbs!
 
2009-11-18 03:22:03 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
THIS.
11% ABV, but it tastes so smooth, you'd never know. We have a beer tasting every year at my friend's house. 100 people on average show up. I carelessly bought a keg of this beer for the late night keg. When the drinking keg of Sierra Nevada kicked at 4:00 pm, some hero decided to hook up the Unearthly a little early. People started dropping like flies soon after that, passing out or being stumbled off of the property by their wives.

\Southern Tier is in my top 3 American breweries.
 
2009-11-18 03:22:11 PM  

glwtta: Snarfangel: Budweiser isn't meant to be good, it's meant to be uniform. You can have a Bud in Florida or Alaska, and it's going to be exactly the same thing. Kind of like a Big Mac.

What an odd goal.

"Mmmm... Samey!" - you just don't hear that a lot.


You used to - in the early 1970's in the UK, the term 'Eurofizz' was coined, to describe the Double Diamond, Worthington 'E', Watneys, Whitbread Trophy type swill that were being pushed. The idea was (according to a representative of Ind Coope I spoke to) that you could "Go into any pub in the UK and drink the beer you normally drink".

Luckily, the very nice people at CAMRA started drawing people's attention to what was going on, and gradually the micro-breweries started to fight back. Eventually, the big beer barons started paying token lip-service to beer lovers and even the multi-nationals started to jump on the cask-conditioned bandwagon.

The 'big brewery eating little brewery' thing still goes on though. I still mourn the Firkin Brewery, bought out 10 years ago.

The way the big brewery bastards killed 'Dogbolter' can be found here...

Bastards (new window)
 
2009-11-18 03:22:59 PM  
Zeno-25

thats another of my favorites, i buy 3 cases a year, so i can have it till the next year. though i have to say some of the last of it tends to mellow as the malts start to over power the hops, but still quiet good!
 
2009-11-18 03:23:13 PM  

mycatisposter: Jackson Herring: Glug the Beer Slayer: just stating my opinion, never said anything against the people who drink it. as you said to each their own.

Actually your every comment was dripping with scorn for those of us who for some reason 'don't know better'.

So says the guy that thinks number of cases sold alone changes the quality of beer.


My meter may be miscalibrated these days but I took that as sarcasm. Maybe I should have Not Sure If Serious'd.
 
2009-11-18 03:23:28 PM  

phedex: A world without sapporo would be a sad world indeed.


I had this at the RI International Beer Festival last weekend. Granted I was a few hours into what is basically a 3 1/2 hour power-hour... but I thought it was pretty good.
 
2009-11-18 03:24:08 PM  

Talondel: While I'm here I thought I'd ask a question.

I'm a recent transplant to the East Coast, and I can't help but notice how hard it is to find a store with a decent beer selection out here. We moved from Arizona where you have BevMo, and well as stores like AJs that carried a bunch of good, hard to find beers in convenient locations.

I'm having a hard time finding similar stores in the D.C. area. While there are a number of good breweries in the area, finding a store that actually carries a good selection of beer has so far proved impossible.


Total wine is the best place I've found. It's not perfect but they have a decent selection.
 
2009-11-18 03:26:55 PM  

albo: LoveRBS: Anybody wanna point me in the direction of some other good lagers?

from PA craft brewers
Stoudt's Gold
Victory Prima Pils
Troegs Sunshine Pils


If you live in the area of Stoudt's Brewery (Adamstown, PA), this would be a good month to go try some of their stuff. (new window)

Not to threadjack but it's semi-related:

Sugar Plums
Hot Cross Buns
Spiced Beer Nuts
Old English Bread Pudding
IPA Mincemeat Tartlets
Bangers
Shepherd's Pie
Spiced Pork with roasted vegetables
Rabbit Stew
Stollen with and without beer marzipan
Ruprecht Beer Brittle
Bockwurst
Weiswurst
Bratwurst
Sauerkraut, Red Cabbage, and German Potato Salad
Luciabullar Saffron Buns
Scarlet Lady Linzer Cookies
Roast Pork with gingerbread sauce
Swedish Meatballs

Oh, and they have beer too.
 
2009-11-18 03:27:42 PM  
submitter: an ale with 225 bitterness units but only 1.1 percent alcohol

Ladies and gentlemen, American beer-making at it's peak. Just stop. I beg you.
 
2009-11-18 03:29:10 PM  

hockeyfarker: submitter: an ale with 225 bitterness units but only 1.1 percent alcohol

Ladies and gentlemen, American beer-making at it's peak. Just stop. I beg you.


TFA: "Nanny State, an "imperial mild" from the BrewDog microbrewery in Fraserburgh, Scotland, is the anti-Utopias, but just as extreme."

Would you prefer a fresh-poured pint of FAIL?
 
2009-11-18 03:31:00 PM  

Mose: mycatisposter: Jackson Herring: Glug the Beer Slayer: just stating my opinion, never said anything against the people who drink it. as you said to each their own.

Actually your every comment was dripping with scorn for those of us who for some reason 'don't know better'.

So says the guy that thinks number of cases sold alone changes the quality of beer.

My meter may be miscalibrated these days but I took that as sarcasm. Maybe I should have Not Sure If Serious'd.


Maybe.
 
2009-11-18 03:31:01 PM  
Wheat stout on the right handle and a British ipa on the left. Both are mini-mash kits from AHS.

farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2009-11-18 03:31:11 PM  
I've got 5gal of a nice brown ale in the fermenter so I'm getting a kick....

gorgor I can tell you but it would have to be privately. And you'll need some blanket liability insurance. OK...a lot of liability insurance.
 
2009-11-18 03:33:49 PM  
I hate when that happens.
 
2009-11-18 03:33:57 PM  

hockeyfarker: submitter: an ale with 225 bitterness units but only 1.1 percent alcohol
Ladies and gentlemen, American beer-making at it's peak. Just stop. I beg you.


You do realize that Coors is owned by Molson-Coors right? Its an Canadian-American brewing company headquartered in Canada.
 
2009-11-18 03:36:53 PM  

UNC_Samurai: I've got an extreme idea. How about crafting beers with less hops?


HulkHands: As much as I like IPAs, I concur that other styles need to trend away from this "hop everything" movement. Yes, we're all excited there isn't a hop shortage anymore. Let's move on.


Anyways, I'm gonna heartily agree with these guys and get out before somebody notices the grammar error too. BALANCE, people. if I wanted that much hops I could just eat them raw.
 
2009-11-18 03:38:12 PM  

RonwellQuincyDobbs: schattenteufel: The most "extreme" beer I've enjoyed wasn't exactly super-hoppy, but it was super flavorful.

Great Lakes Brewery occasionally makes their Barrel-Aged Blackout Stout in old bourbon barrels. The result; Bourbon Barrel Blackout Stout is without a doubt the most delicious beer I've ever had. It tastes like a lightly chocolate-flavored stout infused with a smokey bourbon.

It costs nearly $10.00 a glass, isn't available in bottles, and sells out within a few days of release.
Luckily, I live around the corner from the brewery, and had the occasion to partake.

They sell it in 22 oz bottles, which were gone by the day after the release this year.



Really? Well, hell. The lady at the brewery told me "no bottles, just B.Y.O. growlers" (which was only available the day of & day after release)
 
2009-11-18 03:39:46 PM  

zuce: hockeyfarker: submitter: an ale with 225 bitterness units but only 1.1 percent alcohol
Ladies and gentlemen, American beer-making at it's peak. Just stop. I beg you.

You do realize that Coors is owned by Molson-Coors right? Its an Canadian-American brewing company headquartered in Canada.


Eh?
 
2009-11-18 03:41:27 PM  

zuce: You do realize that Coors is owned by Molson-Coors right? Its an Canadian-American brewing company headquartered in Canada.


That's inaccurate. Control is shared between the Molson and Coors families, and the company maintains headquarters in both Montreal and Denver. The company is nominally incorporated in the United States, however. (yay wikipedia)

In any case, it's irrelevant. It cannot be disputed that American craft beermakers favour excessive hops, and not just in their IPAs. that's what you people like, because your crude palettes do not understand subtlety.
 
2009-11-18 03:41:42 PM  

Fleet: Yazoo love


Again, for all you Nashville folk or people who will be in town, I just saw this on Yazoo's Facebook status:

"Hop Project #23 will be on tap at the Taproom this weekend. This was a small batch, so it won't last long!"

I'll be washing out both my growlers tonight.
 
2009-11-18 03:42:35 PM  
dammit. palate. whatever.
 
2009-11-18 03:44:08 PM  

Impudent Domain: I am so sick of bitter beers. I have gone back to drinking plain old Bud. It's pretty damn refreshing.


You haven't had my wife.
 
2009-11-18 03:44:49 PM  
fappomatic: I've got 5gal of a nice brown ale in the fermenter so I'm getting a kick....

gorgor I can tell you but it would have to be privately. And you'll need some blanket liability insurance. OK...a lot of liability insurance.


Ewww not on the blanket, just their front door.
Maybe the doorbell button a little, and the welcome mat.
 
2009-11-18 03:47:25 PM  

Algebrat: For the true connoisseur:

9.9% ABV, taurine, ginseng, caffeine, and "certified color".


That is the most foul thing I've ever drank. GOD it was awful.

/Yes, I finished it.... and the 2nd can I had bought.
//No sense in wasting alchohol.
 
2009-11-18 03:50:27 PM  

TheOtherOne79: Sapper_Topo: This thread fails for not enough pics of the BEST beer in the world... KEYSTOOONE LIIIIGHT! Delirium Tremens

FTFY

/there was a vote
//or something


I bought one of these about 2 weeks ago. It was quite good, but there was a LOT of sediment in it. That normal?
 
2009-11-18 03:50:56 PM  

Embden.Meyerhof: I can tell you that there is no farking way that beer is 225 IBUs. Calculated BU's, maybe, but ACTUAL BU's? No way. Alpha acids aren't soluble enough to get levels that high. The BU assay isn't linear at that high of a level, either.

Not a chance.

And:
FTFA: IBUs measure a beer's level of alpha acids, the primary bittering compound in hops.

No, the BU assay does not measure alpha acids, it does not measure iso-alpha acids either (the actual bittering compounds, which are isomerized alpha acids). It measures anything in acidified beer or wort which is extracted by 2,2,4-trimethylpentane and has an absorbance at 275nm. The things that fall in this category are not exclusively humulones or isohumulones. It is a reasonable guideline for the amount of iso's, however. (BU's are usually about 1.5-2 times the level of iso's in ppm, based on my own research).


/brewing chemist, sensory scientist, published hop chemistry author


NAEM UV BUK PLZ.

/is not shameless self promotion if somebody asks, right?
 
2009-11-18 03:56:45 PM  

Talondel: While I'm here I thought I'd ask a question.

I'm a recent transplant to the East Coast, and I can't help but notice how hard it is to find a store with a decent beer selection out here. We moved from Arizona where you have BevMo, and well as stores like AJs that carried a bunch of good, hard to find beers in convenient locations.

I'm having a hard time finding similar stores in the D.C. area. While there are a number of good breweries in the area, finding a store that actually carries a good selection of beer has so far proved impossible.


Find your nearest Total Wine. They have an extensive collection of beers.

Harris Teeter supermarkets carry a fair list.

Lost Dog in Arlington.

Couple of places in DC that have a good selection.
 
2009-11-18 03:58:32 PM  
BeesNuts:

NAEM UV BUK PLZ.

/is not shameless self promotion if somebody asks, right?



Journal of the American Society of Brewing Chemists, volume 66. That's all I can say without giving up too much privacy.
 
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