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(Jerusalem Post)   Israel ranks 32nd in the latest global corruption index behind New Zealand, Denmark and Singapore and ahead of Iran, Somalia and Egypt. Hoping that if they win out they can still get a BCS Bowl   (jpost.com) divider line 102
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2009-11-18 12:00:11 AM
I hear OPEC is sponsoring the Gaza Strip Bowl. Two explosive offenses.
 
2009-11-18 12:36:22 AM
Israel was ranked 32nd in Transparency International's Corruption Perception Index (CPI) which was released Tuesday. Israel moved up one spot from its 2008 ranking, with a score of 6.1 out of 10.

The only thing more damning that "looking guilty" is "looking corrupt"
 
2009-11-18 12:58:55 AM
Italy remains undefeated.
 
2009-11-18 03:38:20 AM
King Something: Italy remains undefeated.

Which is funny because I would have thought that corruption in Italy is totally transparent, what with the mob wars and the porn stars in parliament.
 
2009-11-18 03:46:25 AM
Sometimes it's nice to be a public servant in NZ.
 
2009-11-18 03:47:41 AM
It does not matter, because no matter how honest Israel is, it is still a war-mongering, racist apartheid oppressor state who exploits the US while murdering innocent Islamic activists who heroicially hide in schools.

Right, Farkers?
 
2009-11-18 03:48:44 AM
Top 20 list (out of 180)

1 New Zealand
2 Denmark
3 Singapore
3 (tie) Sweden
5 Switzerland
6 Finland
6 (tie) Netherlands
8 Australia
8 (tie)Canada
8 (tie) Iceland
11 Norway
12 Hong Kong
12 (tie)Luxembourg
14 Germany
14 (tie) Ireland
16 Austria
17 Japan
17 (tie) United Kingdom
19 United States
20 Barbados

***

180 Somalia


/got bored repaginating that report
//more ties than a world cup ladder
///suck it Barbados!
 
2009-11-18 03:52:50 AM
Well, I guess this proves it. Every political body is corrupt.

No matter what principals a government is formed on, there will be those whose primary purposes for taking office is to wield as much power and gain as much wealth as possible for themselves.

This is especially obvious when the checks and balances enacted to control such actions are run by the very same governing body.
 
2009-11-18 03:55:11 AM
Is that good or bad?
 
2009-11-18 03:55:41 AM
Rik01: Well, I guess this proves it. Every political body is corrupt.

No matter what principals a government is formed on, there will be those whose primary purposes for taking office is to wield as much power and gain as much wealth as possible for themselves.

This is especially obvious when the checks and balances enacted to control such actions are run by the very same governing body.


Welcome to 5000 years ago.
 
2009-11-18 03:56:34 AM
I thought it was interesting that Iran was hanging around with Haiti near the bottom of that list, and in fact may be the lowest-ranking country that doesn't have significant civil strife at the moment.

Any Persian farkers wanna chuck in their two cents on the matter? Is the ranking justified? If so, what is it about the culture, power structures, or environment that makes that so?
 
2009-11-18 03:57:37 AM
Does this prove that all white and asian cultures are trustworthy?
 
2009-11-18 03:58:08 AM
Lieberman will be introducing a bill to give Israel a BCS bowl tomorrow.
 
2009-11-18 03:59:41 AM
Swampthing in Korea: It does not matter, because no matter how honest Israel is, it is still a war-mongering, racist apartheid oppressor state who exploits the US while murdering innocent Islamic activists who heroicially hide in schools.

Right, Farkers?


They're not war-mongering, they haven't started a single war yet. Not surprising, given that all it would gain them is a bigger muslim population and they're pretty openly bigoted about that.

And they've been known to adopt something of a "one of theirs for every one of ours" mafia-style retaliation policy in dealing with insurgents, where the 'theirs' may be completely unrelated to the group responsible for the 'ours'. It's not necessarily unreasonable in the short term, but a bit dodgy overall.

And the extent to which they influence the US is arguable. All of our allies influence us to some degree and can call on us for aid. Irael has just needed the most aid of any of our close allies recently... others have gotten more from us when the occasion demanded it. Kuwait comes to mind, for instance. Arguing that there's something sinister and manipulative about helping close allies is "Hi, welcome to politics, here's your locker" territory.

That said, "racist apartheid oppressor state" isn't the bitter invective you're implying it is in this case. It's a pretty literal description of what Israel is at the moment. Were it not, we wouldn't be sinking so much money constantly into fixing it.
 
2009-11-18 04:04:34 AM
Swampthing in Korea: It does not matter, because no matter how honest Israel is, it is still a war-mongering, racist apartheid oppressor state who exploits the US while murdering innocent Islamic activists who heroicially hide in schools.

Right, Farkers?


Right.
 
2009-11-18 04:07:12 AM
the_chief: Does this prove that all white and asian cultures are trustworthy?

No.

All human beings are corrupt. The only differences are time, degree, and opportunity.
 
2009-11-18 04:08:41 AM
Jim_Callahan: Swampthing in Korea: It does not matter, because no matter how honest Israel is, it is still a war-mongering, racist apartheid oppressor state who exploits the US while murdering innocent Islamic activists who heroicially hide in schools.

Right, Farkers?

They're not war-mongering, they haven't started a single war yet. Not surprising, given that all it would gain them is a bigger muslim population and they're pretty openly bigoted about that.

And they've been known to adopt something of a "one of theirs for every one of ours" mafia-style retaliation policy in dealing with insurgents, where the 'theirs' may be completely unrelated to the group responsible for the 'ours'. It's not necessarily unreasonable in the short term, but a bit dodgy overall.

And the extent to which they influence the US is arguable. All of our allies influence us to some degree and can call on us for aid. Irael has just needed the most aid of any of our close allies recently... others have gotten more from us when the occasion demanded it. Kuwait comes to mind, for instance. Arguing that there's something sinister and manipulative about helping close allies is "Hi, welcome to politics, here's your locker" territory.

That said, "racist apartheid oppressor state" isn't the bitter invective you're implying it is in this case. It's a pretty literal description of what Israel is at the moment. Were it not, we wouldn't be sinking so much money constantly into fixing it.



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...but I find it hard to believe "heroically hiding in schools" wouldn't clue you in to his sarcasm.
 
2009-11-18 04:09:23 AM
Yet another example of the subby-admin troll cabal ...
 
2009-11-18 04:12:10 AM
Barakku: Israel was ranked 32nd in Transparency International's Corruption Perception Index (CPI) which was released Tuesday. Israel moved up one spot from its 2008 ranking, with a score of 6.1 out of 10.

The only thing more damning that "looking guilty" is "looking corrupt"


How about looking guilty to the corruption of a minor?

Have a beer!
 
2009-11-18 04:13:34 AM
How can Hong Kong be so far away from China on that list. i thought Britain gave it back?
 
2009-11-18 04:19:56 AM
ravenspore: How can Hong Kong be so far away from China on that list. i thought Britain gave it back?

One country, two systems. Well, actually three systems if you count Macau, but nobody ever does.
 
2009-11-18 04:25:01 AM
unyon: I thought it was interesting that Iran was hanging around with Haiti near the bottom of that list, and in fact may be the lowest-ranking country that doesn't have significant civil strife at the moment.

Any Persian farkers wanna chuck in their two cents on the matter? Is the ranking justified? If so, what is it about the culture, power structures, or environment that makes that so?


Umm, repeat of not sure if serious picture above. The unrest from this summer didn't just go away, the media's simply not paying attention anymore
 
2009-11-18 04:28:51 AM
If New York state was a country, it'd be pretty farking low on the list.fark Albany.
 
2009-11-18 04:29:11 AM
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2009-11-18 04:35:27 AM
the_chief: Does this prove that all white and asian cultures are trustworthy?

It proves that we have all the money and power.
 
2009-11-18 04:35:39 AM
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2009-11-18 04:37:28 AM
the_chief: Does this prove that all white and asian cultures are trustworthy?

Are you crazy? We whites have murdered, raped, and pillaged more brown people than Indians at an IT conference.

As for Asian cultures, see Japan prior to WWII.
 
2009-11-18 04:46:46 AM
Flissss: If New York state was a country, it'd be pretty farking low on the list.fark Albany.

This and not just for New York. I don't know how the U.S. scores so high. I think we can safely say that the top ten truly are very uncorrupt and after that it's pretty much downhill and fast.
 
2009-11-18 04:46:56 AM
<b><a target="_blank" href="http://www.fark.com/cgi/comments.pl?IDLink=4777729&IDComment=56033634#c560 33634">Scifientologist</a>:</b> <i>All human beings are corrupt. The only differences are time, degree, and opportunity.</i>

Try giving your wife a ring with a lump of coal on it and tell her that it's a diamond with the small difference of time, degree, and opportunity.
 
2009-11-18 04:53:12 AM
I don't think so. Israel has some very convincing wins, but the strength of schedule kinda leaves something to be desired.
 
2009-11-18 04:55:53 AM
We do corruption in NZ like we do many things - in a really banal and unobtrusive way. Real corruption is only for the sexy countries. Besides, when you've made a fanatical obsession with "a fair go" a part of the national psyche, it keeps people in line.

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/a big foam finger for uncorruptible Aotearoa
 
2009-11-18 04:58:13 AM
Canada beat the entire G8! I guess this explains why people keep looking at me funny when I fold up a Sir John A and ask them if THIS will help the situation.

I thought we were actually pretty corrupt given our media's unstoppable fixation with reporting on even the most minor public fund misuse scandals, like when David Dingwall expensed a $2 pack of gum. But I guess that doesn't compare to America's Congressional financing ridiculousness, British MP expense scandals, Sarkozy greasing the wheels for his 23 year old kid, or everything Berlusconi has ever done.
 
2009-11-18 05:06:47 AM
nmemkha: Are you crazy? We whites have murdered, raped, and pillaged more brown people than Indians at an IT conference.

Yes, but we're a predictable kind of crazy asshole. We are like the McDonalds of psychotics.
 
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2009-11-18 05:10:27 AM
#2 Denmark

Go us!

/shakes head
 
2009-11-18 05:17:34 AM
AnotherDisillusionedCollegeStudent: unyon: I thought it was interesting that Iran was hanging around with Haiti near the bottom of that list, and in fact may be the lowest-ranking country that doesn't have significant civil strife at the moment.

Any Persian farkers wanna chuck in their two cents on the matter? Is the ranking justified? If so, what is it about the culture, power structures, or environment that makes that so?

Umm, repeat of not sure if serious picture above. The unrest from this summer didn't just go away, the media's simply not paying attention anymore


I understand that, but this index is created from data that's a year old. Those events had yet to take place.

But even with those events, the countries that fall below Iran on the list (Somalia, Iraq, Myanmar, Sudan, etc) all have real internal struggles and many don't have any functioning government to speak of. You'd expect corruption to be rampant in those circumstances. But Iran has a relatively stable and operational governmental structure. How it ends up tied with Haiti and Guinea is a bit of a head scratcher to me.
 
2009-11-18 05:44:10 AM
Just another reason why, after 25 years away, I wish I could go back to my home country. NZ, how I miss you.

Sadly I fell into a rather specialised field of work and there are no jobs for me in NZ. I'll have to settle for #8 on the list.
 
2009-11-18 06:11:51 AM
deadsanta: Top 20 list (out of 180)

1 New Zealand
2 Denmark
3 Singapore
3 (tie) Sweden
5 Switzerland
6 Finland
6 (tie) Netherlands
8 Australia
8 (tie)Canada
8 (tie) Iceland
11 Norway
12 Hong Kong
12 (tie)Luxembourg
14 Germany
14 (tie) Ireland
16 Austria
17 Japan
17 (tie) United Kingdom
19 United States
20 Barbados

***

180 Somalia


/got bored repaginating that report
//more ties than a world cup ladder
///suck it Barbados!


So does this mean we might see the UK and IRE in the BASS bowl sponsored by GUINNESS??
 
2009-11-18 06:12:25 AM
Interesting. Apparently Canada is well ahead of the US in more than health care.
 
2009-11-18 06:15:11 AM
Went to manchu province, always had to carry a carton of cigarettes to bribe police at the train station.

/China should've been ranked lower.
 
2009-11-18 06:17:46 AM
That bing shiat on the page is farking obnoxious. Holy shiat, even manually scrolling down if your mouse cursor goes over a link the stupid-assed bing search bullshiat pops up. I didn't use that stupid shiat before and this just makes sure I never will. fark you, Microsoft.
 
2009-11-18 06:19:47 AM
I guess they don't consider dick cheney's or al gore's blatant profiteering moves into account, eh? Are their moves considered 'too big to be corrupt' or something?
 
2009-11-18 06:22:59 AM
deadsanta: Top 20 list (out of 180)

1 New Zealand
2 Denmark
3 Singapore
3 (tie) Sweden
5 Switzerland
6 Finland
6 (tie) Netherlands
8 Australia
8 (tie)Canada
8 (tie) Iceland
11 Norway
12 Hong Kong
12 (tie)Luxembourg
14 Germany
14 (tie) Ireland
16 Austria
17 Japan
17 (tie) United Kingdom
19 United States
20 Barbados

***

180 Somalia


/got bored repaginating that report
//more ties than a world cup ladder
///suck it Barbados!


Couple of other things that strike me as odd. Really no Phillippins, Second didn't Britian give Hong Kong back to China?, Third I call Shennagans on there being a lack of Asian Countries to include India, Pakistan and Afghanastan. Finally where the Fark is Mexico should be at least top 3.

/Fark this LIST after examining this list these are all "English" speaking countries of the "Westernized World" List is FAIL.

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2009-11-18 06:29:14 AM
eas81:

So does this mean we might see the UK and IRE in the BASS bowl Cup finals sponsored by GUINNESS??


/FTFM
 
2009-11-18 06:35:15 AM
eas81:
Couple of other things that strike me as odd. Really no Phillippins, Second didn't Britian give Hong Kong back to China?, Third I call Shennagans on there being a lack of Asian Countries to include India, Pakistan and Afghanastan. Finally where the Fark is Mexico should be at least top 3.

/Fark this LIST after examining this list these are all "English" speaking countries of the "Westernized World" List is FAIL.


This isn't the ranked list of countries who are brown but well liked by white people...
 
2009-11-18 06:44:54 AM
Ha. Somalia dead last, preceded by Italy? United States third from the end, moving toward Italy fast.

/seriously, how the hell did the US not rank dead last?
 
2009-11-18 06:47:17 AM
eas81: Couple of other things that strike me as odd. Really no Phillippins, Second didn't Britian give Hong Kong back to China?, Third I call Shennagans on there being a lack of Asian Countries to include India, Pakistan and Afghanastan. Finally where the Fark is Mexico should be at least top 3.

/Fark this LIST after examining this list these are all "English" speaking countries of the "Westernized World" List is FAIL.




Did you even RTFA?
 
2009-11-18 06:47:23 AM
deadsanta: Top 20 list (out of 180)

1 New Zealand
2 Denmark
3 Singapore
3 (tie) Sweden
5 Switzerland
6 Finland
6 (tie) Netherlands
8 Australia
8 (tie)Canada
8 (tie) Iceland
11 Norway
12 Hong Kong
12 (tie)Luxembourg
14 Germany
14 (tie) Ireland
16 Austria
17 Japan
17 (tie) United Kingdom
19 United States
20 Barbados

***

180 Somalia


/got bored repaginating that report
//more ties than a world cup ladder
///suck it Barbados!


I reiterate: List is horseshiat with the US at 19. Someone isn't looking hard enough, or in the case of the US, at all.
 
2009-11-18 06:50:16 AM
Over 40 posts and nobody has pointed out that the list was compiled by a couple of NGOs? The report is based on perceptions of purely subjective criteria. Are we to take this seriously? Seriously?

I suppose it is like most news these days. Take a poll of what people are feeling and report it as news.
 
2009-11-18 06:54:57 AM
Mr. Right: Over 40 posts and nobody has pointed out that the list was compiled by a couple of NGOs? The report is based on perceptions of purely subjective criteria. Are we to take this seriously? Seriously?

I suppose it is like most news these days. Take a poll of what people are feeling and report it as news.


Taking polls of what people feel about something makes the news all the time...

Most news articles have a quote or two of a person's feelings to whatever the article is talking about.

/facepalm
 
2009-11-18 06:58:02 AM
OK - full disclosure time. Until September, I worked for this newspaper. I know both the author and the contributing author. And I can't for the life of me figure out whether the move "up" is a positive or a negative thing.

Nor is it at all clear from the article whether being "ahead" of Egypt and Somalia means we're purportedly more or less corrupt than they are.
 
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