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(Some Guy)   Single Army mom arrested for not deploying to Afghanistan because she could find no one to care for her child. Child sent to CPS. With pic of what a deploying mother saying goodbye to her child might look like   (truthout.org) divider line 966
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2009-11-16 03:32:34 PM
FARK AFGHANISTAN... BRING EVERYBODY HOME... WHAT HAVE WE BECOME?
 
2009-11-16 03:33:53 PM
Sapper_Topo: As a vet I say thank you


Why the hell does the fact that you cure sick animals have any relevance here?

Listen the next time you have your arm inserted to the shoulder ina horses rectum you tell how it DOESNT!

/Veterinarian
//Veteran
///Slashees


Oye, es dat yuu Mister 'arriot? Eye gut a wee seck caff Ah was 'opin yuu could 'ave a luk at.
 
2009-11-16 03:34:14 PM
coco ebert: I agree too. Women are often saddled with the burden of childcare and those in the military are no exception. I don't know the details of this case and what really happened but women are less likely to be able to run away from their kids. A guy gets a woman pregnant, big deal, he can be deployed, he doesn't have to carry the baby to term and then deal with the childcare. Other Westernized countries with volunteer armies provide such childcare options, why can't we?

I think it is pretty obvious that she has the option for childcare. She just doesn't want to pay for it, or can't.
 
2009-11-16 03:34:39 PM
NewGrace: First, no, dont just seperate her. Why? Because, any other woman who wants out of the military, now has a way.

While your self-righteous indignation is very cute, women have always had a way out of the military. Get pregnant, and you have the option of a hardship discharge.

Or, they can just go the route of saying they're gay, just like every guy can do if he wants out.

If the military doesn't hammer this woman, they're not setting some new precedent.
 
2009-11-16 03:36:54 PM
Gamer Grrrl: OBBN: Maybe if you are a single mother you shouldn't enlist in the Army? Just a thought, of course she didn't think of that did she?

The Army doesn't allow single parents to enlist. Bet you didn't think of that, did you?


Nope, really didn't. Maybe she should choose her mates a bit more carefully OR have a plan in place in case her career does something that she knows can happen. Sorry, no sympathy here. The situation sucks, but anyone with half a brain could figure out that this deployment was a possibility. She should have made the arrangements, and if she had arrangements she should have been 100% sure they were reliable. She is in the Army, the Army gets deployed, that is what they do, this isn't their problem it is hers.
 
2009-11-16 03:37:34 PM
So is her lawyer going to be able to go to trail with her? Or is she going to rely on the Area Defense Counsel? We call our defense attoneys that army may call them something else.
 
2009-11-16 03:37:55 PM
Farkwaddle:

I can't remember who said it earlier, but I'm suprised one of her fellow soldier's families didn't act as guardian during deployment. Active duty families are usually a very tight knit community.


I was wondering that myself. The most likely explanation I can think of is that this particular kid is a real handful that nobody but his mother is willing/able to deal with. Sure, Grandma has other responsibilities, but her backing out sent a bit of a red flag up in my mind.
 
2009-11-16 03:38:34 PM
Nutsac_Jim: zarberg: Gamer Grrrl: Remember, it's only the woman's fault for getting pregnant! Whore!

While both parties need to be responsible for birth control, the consequences traditionally lie with the woman, for obvious reasons. It's the main reason I'm ok with men being dragged through the proverbial coals in palimony and custody cases.

Help me out. Did you just say that party A is the one that is responsible, and because of that, you have no problem holding party B responsible?


Awesome, I want to weigh in!

If I get to say if we have an abortion or not, and I get to control what food you eat, what excercise you do, and force you to take all the medicine and vitamins I want, then sign me up for more of the "consequences".

But, since fathers have very little say in the whole pregnancy time, and very little say in what birth control you use, and very little say in if we will or will not have the child, I dont think we should be punished after the fact.

A woman can say "No, I dont want to have a child right now." She gets birth control, and options of abortion.

Men, we get condoms. Of course, if the woman states "We dont need condoms, Im using another form of birth control", then I am covered, because it shouldnt be my fault if she chooses to lie about this.

But once she is pregnant, we dont get the option of saying "No, I dont want a child. If you have it, I opt out of being a parent". Instead, we get raped by the court and have to provide for mother and child, many times even if the woman remarries.

I have no problem with 50/50, but men get screwed unfairly. We get little say in what happens, and we have to pay more.
 
2009-11-16 03:38:54 PM
armystrong22b Quote 2009-11-16 02:53:06 PM
schlingfocker-

haha i told my fiance the same thing as a joke. she told me she guessed if i feel that way i better make sure i make time to get some strange in iraq/afghani. i told her i would because she knows how much i love accents.


She could get a male blow up doll like the girl did in a fark thread from a couple of days ago as a temporary replacement for her husband while he was deployed . Wow that sentence sucked...Seriously though, good luck when you ship out.
 
2009-11-16 03:39:24 PM
Nutsac_Jim: zarberg: Gamer Grrrl: Remember, it's only the woman's fault for getting pregnant! Whore!

While both parties need to be responsible for birth control, the consequences traditionally lie with the woman, for obvious reasons. It's the main reason I'm ok with men being dragged through the proverbial coals in palimony and custody cases.

Help me out. Did you just say that party A is the one that is responsible, and because of that, you have no problem holding party B responsible?


Sorry if I didn't get what I was trying to say across to you. I meant this:

Since women are plugged with the majority of responsibility when babies are made and pop out, I have no problem with men being the underdog in the legal system.
 
2009-11-16 03:40:27 PM
kurfu: Shakespeare's Monkey: Here's another picture of the woman in question. They could have put a real picture of her in TFA, so why the fake?

Because people will actually read the article if they think it's about a blond-haired white woman.


the sad truth...
 
2009-11-16 03:40:27 PM
Born_Again_Bavarian: Kazan: Born_Again_Bavarian: ..../i>

we had total superiority of manpower without them.

I believe I noted that. However, it doesn't change the fact that the Guard and Reserves were used extensively during and after Gulf War I. If you have an issue with that, take it up with Dick Cheney.


I'd rather not be shot in the face, or gang raped by halliburton subcontractors.
 
2009-11-16 03:41:43 PM
It costs less than $50 to build an IED in Afghanistan. Every time one goes off, we lose a half million in equipment and people. How farking long are we going to keep doing this shiat?

The people that inflicted us with 9/11 were voted out of office last year. They're not in Afghanistan.

This war will only end when the profits cease. Congress needs to stop appropriations for this farking rip-off. Otherwise, we can just go the way of the Russians.
 
2009-11-16 03:42:46 PM
www.demotivateus.com
 
2009-11-16 03:44:00 PM
NewGrace: If I get to say if we have an abortion or not, and I get to control what food you eat, what excercise you do, and force you to take all the medicine and vitamins I want, then sign me up for more of the "consequences".

But, since fathers have very little say in the whole pregnancy time, and very little say in what birth control you use, and very little say in if we will or will not have the child, I dont think we should be punished after the fact.

A woman can say "No, I dont want to have a child right now." She gets birth control, and options of abortion.

Men, we get condoms. Of course, if the woman states "We dont need condoms, Im using another form of birth control", then I am covered, because it shouldnt be my fault if she chooses to lie about this.

But once she is pregnant, we dont get the option of saying "No, I dont want a child. If you have it, I opt out of being a parent". Instead, we get raped by the court and have to provide for mother and child, many times even if the woman remarries.

I have no problem with 50/50, but men get screwed unfairly. We get little say in what happens, and we have to pay more.



You know why? Because society does not give a shiat about you. Nor do we give a shiat about the tramp you knocked up.

It isn't the kids fault that the two adults that created him or her are acting like spoiled brats but that kid deserves the support of two parents. If you dumb ass isn't going to be there then your dollars will. You knew the rules when you got you dick wet, live with the consequences.

/divorced
//has 50% custody
///still pays child support
 
2009-11-16 03:44:34 PM
SchlingFocker: NewGrace: First, no, dont just seperate her. Why? Because, any other woman who wants out of the military, now has a way.

While your self-righteous indignation is very cute, women have always had a way out of the military. Get pregnant, and you have the option of a hardship discharge.

Or, they can just go the route of saying they're gay, just like every guy can do if he wants out.

If the military doesn't hammer this woman, they're not setting some new precedent.


Actually, the gay option is much more of a rumor. The Military is not stupid, they dont just kick people out for saying they are gay. And they dont just kick out if you kiss a man in front of your officer. You most likely will get charged, and will be doing some pretty dirty work for it, but not kicked out.

The only case I have seen where a person was kicked out, was the First Shirt walking into his dorm room to inspect it, and the two men were in bed together.


And a hardship discharge has to be proven. If the woman doesnt have uncontrollable debt, or some other issue causing an actual hardship, she will be denied the discharge.

There is no easy way out of the military. People have been looking for decades, and many of the "holes" are now just ways to either commit a crime, or put yourself in really bad debt, and still be in, or get the Big Chicken Dinner.
 
2009-11-16 03:44:36 PM
GurneyHalleck: Here's an idea. END THE WARS. Lots and lots of problems solved.

I am for this, 4 nukes 90 mins game over

//Not Iraq the one with no oil to fight over
 
2009-11-16 03:47:17 PM
Kazan: Born_Again_Bavarian: Kazan: Born_Again_Bavarian: ..../i>

we had total superiority of manpower without them.

I believe I noted that. However, it doesn't change the fact that the Guard and Reserves were used extensively during and after Gulf War I. If you have an issue with that, take it up with Dick Cheney.

I'd rather not be shot in the face, or gang raped by halliburton subcontractors.


You'll also be forced to apologize on national TV to Dick Cheney or else he will eat your first born.

/ BRRRRRRAAAAAAIIIIINS
 
2009-11-16 03:48:19 PM
Duke_leto_Atredes: GurneyHalleck: Here's an idea. END THE WARS. Lots and lots of problems solved.

I am for this, 4 nukes 90 mins game over

//Not Iraq the one with no oil to fight over


no no.. it's your Son that gets to use the Atomics to breach the Shield wall

Bad Duke, no cookie.
 
2009-11-16 03:48:21 PM
NewGrace: Men, we get condoms. Of course, if the woman states "We dont need condoms, Im using another form of birth control", then I am covered, because it shouldnt be my fault if she chooses to lie about this.

And if you say, "I prefer to wear a condom, even if you're also using something else" you think she'll kick you out of bed?
 
2009-11-16 03:49:44 PM
as much as it sucks for her i dont feel bad for her the kid yes not her she effed up big time

/there is a ssgt or tsgt in my unit who everytime she is gonna be deployed manages to get preggers she has four kids now
//thats the real shiatty thing people do to get out of deployments
 
2009-11-16 03:52:07 PM
Nutsac_Jim: coco

If you can't pay for childcare then it's pretty clear it's not an option.
 
2009-11-16 03:52:14 PM
NewGrace: Nutsac_Jim: zarberg: Gamer Grrrl: Remember, it's only the woman's fault for getting pregnant! Whore!

While both parties need to be responsible for birth control, the consequences traditionally lie with the woman, for obvious reasons. It's the main reason I'm ok with men being dragged through the proverbial coals in palimony and custody cases.

Help me out. Did you just say that party A is the one that is responsible, and because of that, you have no problem holding party B responsible?

Awesome, I want to weigh in!

If I get to say if we have an abortion or not, and I get to control what food you eat, what excercise you do, and force you to take all the medicine and vitamins I want, then sign me up for more of the "consequences".

But, since fathers have very little say in the whole pregnancy time, and very little say in what birth control you use, and very little say in if we will or will not have the child, I dont think we should be punished after the fact.

A woman can say "No, I dont want to have a child right now." She gets birth control, and options of abortion.

Men, we get condoms. Of course, if the woman states "We dont need condoms, Im using another form of birth control", then I am covered, because it shouldnt be my fault if she chooses to lie about this.

But once she is pregnant, we dont get the option of saying "No, I dont want a child. If you have it, I opt out of being a parent". Instead, we get raped by the court and have to provide for mother and child, many times even if the woman remarries.

I have no problem with 50/50, but men get screwed unfairly. We get little say in what happens, and we have to pay more.


Both parties get screwed, they just get screwed in different ways. The man has fork over money every month to a chick he doesn't care about for a kid he never wanted. The chick has to raise a kid she never wanted without the support of a spouse, and society looks down on her for it. Every job she takes she has to think about how it will affect her kid. Every guy she dates, will he be good to this child that isn't his?

In the end, it's not about not farking over the father, or not farking over the mother, it's about making sure the child has enough to survive and even thrive. In the end, it's about the kid and not the parents.
 
2009-11-16 03:52:26 PM
Umm,

isn't the Messiah in charge now? This is his fault, him and evil Biden. Ya, liberal playbook is in my hands and I am on page one. No war for Van Jones!
 
2009-11-16 03:53:41 PM
The army should have just discharged her to save itself the money and bad PR involved.

The army is in the right here, its her duty to make sure the child is cared for. But it would have been smarter to just discharge and be done with it.

But no one really expects the army to do anything the smart way.
 
2009-11-16 03:55:27 PM
lukelightning: I think the military needs to create special category of discharges for cases like this. Since this problem all arose because of something she did with her lady bits, I suggest it be named a vaginal discharge.

Hot coffee out nose. Thank you sir.
 
2009-11-16 03:55:40 PM
DIGITALgimpus: yagottabefarkinkiddinme:

How about adding pets into the mix? Nobody can watch my goldfish, so I need to stay behind. Still need my check though.



You don't seem smart enough tell the difference between goldfish and children, so an explaination won't help you here. Just exit the thread.

-1 Internets
 
2009-11-16 03:56:16 PM
Gamer Grrrl: The_Time_Master: As a Vet, I have this to say:

TOUGH shiat.

A pussy does not give you a get out of combat free card, coont.

You are unfit to be a mother if you do not have the support network to help you raise your child if you are not able to raise your child alone, and - SURPRISE being a member of the military does not entitle you to create a baby as a human shield, either figurativly to prevent your entry into a combat situation, or literally.

So what should she have done with that 11-month-old baby while she was deployed?


Some camo diapers, a Hello Kitty assault rifle and the kid is set.
 
2009-11-16 03:57:44 PM
Gamer Grrrl:

Both parties get screwed, they just get screwed in different ways. The man has fork over money every month to a chick he doesn't care about for a kid he never wanted. The chick has to raise a kid she never wanted without the support of a spouse, and society looks down on her for it. Every job she takes she has to think about how it will affect her kid. Every guy she dates, will he be good to this child that isn't his?

In the end, it's not about not farking over the father, or not farking over the mother, it's about making sure the child has enough to survive and even thrive. In the end, it's about the kid and not the parents.


you're ignoring the situation where the chick wants a child, the guy doesn't, she tells him she's in BC [not true] he believes her and doesn't wear a rubber (or the rubber breaks).

she gets preggers, he gets screwed
 
2009-11-16 03:59:25 PM
She should have crushed her baby's head with a hammer, and thrown the corpse into the woods.

/really, that's the equivalent of what most of you are saying, with all your crap about how she obviously is trying to pull one over on the US Army
 
2009-11-16 03:59:28 PM

You know why? Because society does not give a shiat about you. Nor do we give a shiat about the tramp you knocked up.

It isn't the kids fault that the two adults that created him or her are acting like spoiled brats but that kid deserves the support of two parents. If you dumb ass isn't going to be there then your dollars will. You knew the rules when you got you dick wet, live with the consequences.

/divorced
//has 50% custody
///still pays child support


Wow, now your just being vengeful, stick it to the other person! Which is what a lot of these parents are doing to their spouses. Its not about who is responsible, but instead focused on hurting someone, which is wrong.

And your implying society doesnt care about me. I dont have kids, my dad was a deadbeat who didnt pay any child support, when it was required.

In my fathers case, he made more than my mother, he had 50% custody, but moved out of state and we never saw him. So my opinion is he should of paid to help my mother raise 2 kids.

BUT, I had a friend whose girlfriend got pregnant. She wanted to get married, he did not. So when they broke up, she tried to hit him hard in the wallet. He didnt think he should pay, since she said she was on birth control, but then admitted she wasnt taking it, because she wanted to be pregnant.

AND, my cousin and her husband are having issues. Shes been seeing other men, which her husband obviously doesnt care for. He wants a divorce, but has put it off as he wants to think about the 2 kids, only 1 of which is his. My cousin, wants the house, and wants him to buy her a spare apartment for her in the city, and wants the car. He disagrees with this, since she wants to go out dating, and is focused on starting a career where she travels. He wants the kids, so he can raise them in a stable environment. The issue, his lawyer is already explaining how hard it will be for him to win custody of the kids, and not end up having to pay a lot more than she will.

Its not a fair system, and its not based on anything except old beliefs that a "mother" somehow is a good parent thru natures witchcraft and tom cruises voodoo magic.
 
2009-11-16 03:59:34 PM
Gamer Grrrl: The chick has to raise a kid she never wanted without the support of a spouse, and society looks down on her for it.

And if she gives it up for adoption, they look down on her even more. I've seen the hate that women get for making that decision, and it boggles and angers me every time.
 
2009-11-16 03:59:47 PM
Kazan: Gamer Grrrl:

Both parties get screwed, they just get screwed in different ways. The man has fork over money every month to a chick he doesn't care about for a kid he never wanted. The chick has to raise a kid she never wanted without the support of a spouse, and society looks down on her for it. Every job she takes she has to think about how it will affect her kid. Every guy she dates, will he be good to this child that isn't his?

In the end, it's not about not farking over the father, or not farking over the mother, it's about making sure the child has enough to survive and even thrive. In the end, it's about the kid and not the parents.

you're ignoring the situation where the chick wants a child, the guy doesn't, she tells him she's in BC [not true] he believes her and doesn't wear a rubber (or the rubber breaks).

she gets preggers, he gets screwed


There is a 100% effective way for a guy to avoid this scenario.
 
2009-11-16 04:00:27 PM
NewGrace: Actually, the gay option is much more of a rumor. The Military is not stupid, they dont just kick people out for saying they are gay.

Yes, they do.

I was with the 101st during the time period when the gay soldier was killed back in the 90s.

More than a few guys in my battalion, some gay some straight, were discharged based only on their statements that they were gay.

A woman in my current unit just received a hardship discharge after giving birth. Not many units put up too much of a fight over a hardship discharge following pregnancy.
 
2009-11-16 04:00:43 PM
jst3p:
There is a 100% effective way for a guy to avoid this scenario.


PITHB?
 
2009-11-16 04:02:16 PM
Kazan: Gamer Grrrl:

Both parties get screwed, they just get screwed in different ways. The man has fork over money every month to a chick he doesn't care about for a kid he never wanted. The chick has to raise a kid she never wanted without the support of a spouse, and society looks down on her for it. Every job she takes she has to think about how it will affect her kid. Every guy she dates, will he be good to this child that isn't his?

In the end, it's not about not farking over the father, or not farking over the mother, it's about making sure the child has enough to survive and even thrive. In the end, it's about the kid and not the parents.

you're ignoring the situation where the chick wants a child, the guy doesn't, she tells him she's in BC [not true] he believes her and doesn't wear a rubber (or the rubber breaks).

she gets preggers, he gets screwed


Uh, no you're ignoring the part where I said in the end it's not about the parents, it's about the kid. We ALL know what can happen when we have sex, we just choose to have sex anyway. Just like when we drive 80mph, we know we can die in a fiery car crash. Some of us still choose to drive 80mph.

Don't want to get a girl pregnant? Don't stick your peener in her vajayjay. People lie, and people like about birth control. If you're so worried that your partner may be lying about birth control, then it sounds like you shouldn't be having sex with that person.
 
2009-11-16 04:02:27 PM
NightOwl2255: This obviously is not her, this woman is wearing a wedding ring, and she's white.


/What? Was that wrong?


lol
 
2009-11-16 04:03:14 PM
Kazan: you're ignoring the situation where the chick wants a child, the guy doesn't, she tells him she's in BC [not true] he believes her and doesn't wear a rubber (or the rubber breaks).

she gets preggers, he gets screwed


Still 50% his responsibility. If he doesn't want kids, he shouldn't be farking a chick who's crazy enough to lie about BC. He could still wear a condom, too. If she tells him she doesn't want him to, maybe he should take that as a warning sign.
 
2009-11-16 04:03:33 PM
Is it just me or is common logic dying a slow, painful death nowadays?
 
2009-11-16 04:04:09 PM
NewGrace: You know why? Because society does not give a shiat about you. Nor do we give a shiat about the tramp you knocked up.

It isn't the kids fault that the two adults that created him or her are acting like spoiled brats but that kid deserves the support of two parents. If you dumb ass isn't going to be there then your dollars will. You knew the rules when you got you dick wet, live with the consequences.

/divorced
//has 50% custody
///still pays child support

Wow, now your just being vengeful, stick it to the other person! Which is what a lot of these parents are doing to their spouses. Its not about who is responsible, but instead focused on hurting someone, which is wrong.



It isn't about hurting anyone. It is about the best interests of the child.


And your implying society doesnt care about me. I dont have kids, my dad was a deadbeat who didnt pay any child support, when it was required.

In my fathers case, he made more than my mother, he had 50% custody, but moved out of state and we never saw him. So my opinion is he should of paid to help my mother raise 2 kids.

BUT, I had a friend whose girlfriend got pregnant. She wanted to get married, he did not. So when they broke up, she tried to hit him hard in the wallet. He didnt think he should pay, since she said she was on birth control, but then admitted she wasnt taking it, because she wanted to be pregnant.


So the child should lose the financial support of a parent who helped create that child?

AND, my cousin and her husband are having issues. Shes been seeing other men, which her husband obviously doesnt care for. He wants a divorce, but has put it off as he wants to think about the 2 kids, only 1 of which is his. My cousin, wants the house, and wants him to buy her a spare apartment for her in the city, and wants the car. He disagrees with this, since she wants to go out dating, and is focused on starting a career where she travels. He wants the kids, so he can raise them in a stable environment. The issue, his lawyer is already explaining how hard it will be for him to win custody of the kids, and not end up having to pay a lot more than she will.

Its not a fair system, and its not based on anything except old beliefs that a "mother" somehow is a good parent thru natures witchcraft and tom cruises voodoo magic.


It isn't fair to the mother or the father because the state, again, does not care about the mother or father. The state is looking out for what is in the kids best interests. If the mother and father weren't being so selfish and looking out for themselves the state wouldn't have to get involved at all.
 
2009-11-16 04:04:11 PM
Wasn't there a big news splash last Spring about the married mom who showed up for duty with her two children? I think they let her off the hook to avoid the bad publicity of making the rich salesman husband get a nanny. If the rich white lady and the father of her children get out of their responsibility, why not the single black mother and whomever the father of her child may be? Either the army should not have let the married man out of his fathering duties when his wife was recalled, or they should let all parents with children out of their responsibilities as a matter of course. Fair is fair.
 
2009-11-16 04:04:33 PM
Thunderpipes: lajimi: borg: Thank god, Obama and the Democrats are in charge!

Refresh my memory, who started these illegal and unnecessary wars to begin with? Why has he (and his henchmen) not been prosecuted?

/Lie about getting a BJ? IMPEACHMENT!
//Lie about EVERYTHING triggering two wars and tens of thousands of deaths? That's OK.

how farking stupid are you? Clinton lied under Oath. Bush did not. Stupid hippie pussy. get a job.

Oh ya, nothing is illegal (congress voted on it, remember this asshole?) and it is only your opinion about unnecessary.


You sound unloved.
 
2009-11-16 04:04:50 PM
Kazan: jst3p:
There is a 100% effective way for a guy to avoid this scenario.

PITHB?


OK, there are several.
 
2009-11-16 04:05:51 PM
Gamer Grrrl: Don't want to get a girl pregnant? Don't stick your peener in her vajayjay. People lie, and people like about birth control. If you're so worried that your partner may be lying about birth control, then it sounds like you shouldn't be having sex with that person.

My college GF was so deathly afraid of getting pregnant that she refused to have intercourse. Luckily for me she gave awesome BJs, loved given them and was ok with seeing other people. She also had a huge rack and a single room.

/I have no idea why I posted that, but it was a total win-win situation for me.
 
2009-11-16 04:06:06 PM
Huggermugger: She should have crushed her baby's head with a hammer, and thrown the corpse into the woods.

/really, that's the equivalent of what most of you are saying, with all your crap about how she obviously is trying to pull one over on the US Army


She signed on the dotted line, got the training, the clearance etc.... So fark her. There is more to this story you can bet on it. Otherwise the army wouldn't be doing court Martial here. Too many females have used similar situation in the past just to get out of the field let alone deployments.

Maybe the army should take a page from Uncle Joe Stalin. Execute the kid in front of her then execute her. End of Mission. Maybe more female soldiers will get the memo.
 
2009-11-16 04:06:10 PM
Gamer Grrrl: Kazan: Gamer Grrrl:

Both parties get screwed, they just get screwed in different ways. The man has fork over money every month to a chick he doesn't care about for a kid he never wanted. The chick has to raise a kid she never wanted without the support of a spouse, and society looks down on her for it. Every job she takes she has to think about how it will affect her kid. Every guy she dates, will he be good to this child that isn't his?

In the end, it's not about not farking over the father, or not farking over the mother, it's about making sure the child has enough to survive and even thrive. In the end, it's about the kid and not the parents.

you're ignoring the situation where the chick wants a child, the guy doesn't, she tells him she's in BC [not true] he believes her and doesn't wear a rubber (or the rubber breaks).

she gets preggers, he gets screwed

Uh, no you're ignoring the part where I said in the end it's not about the parents, it's about the kid. We ALL know what can happen when we have sex, we just choose to have sex anyway. Just like when we drive 80mph, we know we can die in a fiery car crash. Some of us still choose to drive 80mph.

Don't want to get a girl pregnant? Don't stick your peener in her vajayjay. People lie, and people like about birth control. If you're so worried that your partner may be lying about birth control, then it sounds like you shouldn't be having sex with that person.


I like you.
 
2009-11-16 04:06:31 PM
i came here for the racist/sexist/Obama comments. Was not disappointed.
 
2009-11-16 04:07:51 PM
jst3p: Gamer Grrrl: Kazan: Gamer Grrrl:

Both parties get screwed, they just get screwed in different ways. The man has fork over money every month to a chick he doesn't care about for a kid he never wanted. The chick has to raise a kid she never wanted without the support of a spouse, and society looks down on her for it. Every job she takes she has to think about how it will affect her kid. Every guy she dates, will he be good to this child that isn't his?

In the end, it's not about not farking over the father, or not farking over the mother, it's about making sure the child has enough to survive and even thrive. In the end, it's about the kid and not the parents.

you're ignoring the situation where the chick wants a child, the guy doesn't, she tells him she's in BC [not true] he believes her and doesn't wear a rubber (or the rubber breaks).

she gets preggers, he gets screwed

Uh, no you're ignoring the part where I said in the end it's not about the parents, it's about the kid. We ALL know what can happen when we have sex, we just choose to have sex anyway. Just like when we drive 80mph, we know we can die in a fiery car crash. Some of us still choose to drive 80mph.

Don't want to get a girl pregnant? Don't stick your peener in her vajayjay. People lie, and people like about birth control. If you're so worried that your partner may be lying about birth control, then it sounds like you shouldn't be having sex with that person.

I like you.


Hey, you've been on my favorites since that Acid Kills Trolls thread all those months ago.
 
2009-11-16 04:10:57 PM
Gamer Grrrl: Hey, you've been on my favorites since that Acid Kills Trolls thread all those months ago.


I have my moments. I bet I am ignored by more than favorited though. I would actually be willing to pay for TF if it told me that.
 
2009-11-16 04:11:24 PM
Shakespeare's Monkey: Here's another picture of the woman in question. They could have put a real picture of her in TFA, so why the fake?

DURP DURP gee... I wonder why.. DURP DURP
 
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