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(Huffington Post)   "The media fell hook, line and sinker once again for a military account of what happened during the tragedy... the cop most responsible for saving the day, it turns out, is a black man, not a white woman"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 239
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2009-11-13 05:42:56 PM
Gawd I hate this. Truth is that both a white woman and a black man bravely confronted a homicidal maniac when most of us would have been running the fark away.

And now we have to proceed to analyze the hell out of it in terms of race and gender until both of them are torn down.

Screw that. Thank you brave PEOPLE.
 
2009-11-13 05:46:04 PM
Troll-tastic headline, submitter. This guy would love to respond, but is currently unable to do so.

img43.imageshack.us
 
2009-11-13 05:46:16 PM
The military lying is the rule, not the exception.
 
2009-11-13 06:12:04 PM
arkansas: Gawd I hate this. Truth is that both a white woman and a black man bravely confronted a homicidal maniac when most of us would have been running the fark away.

And now we have to proceed to analyze the hell out of it in terms of race and gender until both of them are torn down.

Screw that. Thank you brave PEOPLE.


I can't say THIS enough. They are both heroes, end story.
 
2009-11-13 06:34:39 PM
arkansas: Gawd I hate this. Truth is that both a white woman and a black man bravely confronted a homicidal maniac when most of us would have been running the fark away.

And now we have to proceed to analyze the hell out of it in terms of race and gender until both of them are torn down.

Screw that. Thank you brave PEOPLE.
 
2009-11-13 06:36:49 PM
arkansas: Gawd I hate this. Truth is that both a white woman and a black man bravely confronted a homicidal maniac when most of us would have been running the fark away.

And now we have to proceed to analyze the hell out of it in terms of race and gender until both of them are torn down.

Screw that. Thank you brave PEOPLE.
 
2009-11-13 06:39:17 PM
Oh for Chrissakes. People that write this tripe should have to express dogs' anal glands as community service.
 
2009-11-13 07:08:52 PM
Oh wait! You mean to tell me it takes time to fully sort out what actually occurred during a highly chaotic event???

Man. And all this time I was under the impression that in every crisis we got the entire story instantly, without any rumor, hearsay or conjecture.
 
2009-11-13 07:10:42 PM
Did you guys really believe that the one guy's last words, as he attacked the hijackers on 9/11 were, "Let's Roll?"

The press tries to find some kind of good spin to everything. Sorry for everyone that was injured, killed, or are family of any victim. I hope the press was just trying to make the best of this situation.

Sorry that they felt the need to neglect the real marksman that ended the carnage. All of the involved officers were heroes!
 
2009-11-13 07:26:04 PM
one_more_step_and_the_girl_gets_it: Did you guys really believe that the one guy's last words, as he attacked the hijackers on 9/11 were, "Let's Roll?"

They weren't his "last words." They were what he said right before he led a group charging down the aisle, as heard by people who were on the phone listening. I have no earthly idea why you'd find that unbelievable, unless you're one of those people who believes constant cynicism marks you as an intellectual.

And this whole thing is a ridiculous non-story that's made into a story on the merits of people talking about it being a story. That's all. The media getting information wrong in the rush after a high-profile incident is not new at all. It's been going on as long as there's been a press, despite the fact that everybody wants to believe they're in the end times of reporting.
 
2009-11-13 07:59:32 PM
Oh sweet Buddha.
 
2009-11-13 08:17:50 PM
Pocket Ninja: one_more_step_and_the_girl_gets_it: Did you guys really believe that the one guy's last words, as he attacked the hijackers on 9/11 were, "Let's Roll?"

They weren't his "last words." They were what he said right before he led a group charging down the aisle, as heard by people who were on the phone listening. I have no earthly idea why you'd find that unbelievable, unless you're one of those people who believes constant cynicism marks you as an intellectual.

And this whole thing is a ridiculous non-story that's made into a story on the merits of people talking about it being a story. That's all. The media getting information wrong in the rush after a high-profile incident is not new at all. It's been going on as long as there's been a press, despite the fact that everybody wants to believe they're in the end times of reporting.


Nicely put.
 
2009-11-13 08:28:15 PM
Well I'm sure that means that the media interpretation of SoA on his business cards can't possibly be wrong.
 
2009-11-13 09:23:18 PM
He killed 12 people and wounded about 40. That means he had at least 42 rounds of ammo, and he was a perfect shot. Which I doubt he was. He apparently had two handguns: A semiautomatic pistol, and a revolver. Doesn't seem possible unless he had a big magazine for the semiauto abd could reload rapidly. Seems fishy.
 
2009-11-13 09:26:45 PM
arkansas: Gawd I hate this. Truth is that both a white woman and a black man bravely confronted a homicidal maniac when most of us would have been running the fark away.

And now we have to proceed to analyze the hell out of it in terms of race and gender until both of them are torn down.

Screw that. Thank you brave PEOPLE.


I would also like to say that I would have pooped myself while running the fark away.
 
2009-11-13 09:33:50 PM
Sun God: He killed 12 people and wounded about 40. That means he had at least 42 rounds of ammo, and he was a perfect shot. Which I doubt he was. He apparently had two handguns: A semiautomatic pistol, and a revolver. Doesn't seem possible unless he had a big magazine for the semiauto abd could reload rapidly. Seems fishy.

It was a missle.
 
2009-11-13 09:47:42 PM
arkansas: Gawd I hate this. Truth is that both a white woman and a black man bravely confronted a homicidal maniac when most of us would have been running the fark away.

And now we have to proceed to analyze the hell out of it in terms of race and gender until both of them are torn down.

Screw that. Thank you brave PEOPLE.


Came here to say this and was very glad to see it already said.
And seconded.
And thirded.
And...
 
2009-11-13 09:49:09 PM
Of course, the guy who actually shot the man deserves the credit for it.
 
2009-11-13 09:52:35 PM
muck4doo: Sun God: He killed 12 people and wounded about 40. That means he had at least 42 rounds of ammo, and he was a perfect shot. Which I doubt he was. He apparently had two handguns: A semiautomatic pistol, and a revolver. Doesn't seem possible unless he had a big magazine for the semiauto abd could reload rapidly. Seems fishy.

It was a missle.


It just seems odd. An FN 5-7 can support a 30-round clip of essentially .22 calibre bullets. Somehow I doubt Hasan had the extended magazine for that gun. He may have had 15 or 20 round magazines. A revolver gives you 6 shots. So, maybe about 60 bullets were fired by one guy with two guns, within a few minutes. One news report I read said he fired "over 100 rounds".
 
2009-11-13 10:08:51 PM
Well if Michael Jackson wasn't already dead they could well have both been right.
 
2009-11-13 10:10:22 PM
TheDumbBlonde: Oh for Chrissakes. People that write this tripe should have to express dogs' anal glands as community service.

We just had to have that done to our old poodle. It's worth whatever they charge to have someone else do it.
 
2009-11-13 10:10:27 PM
This article is about on par with the rest of the "writing" at that website. Let's not give that fat golddigging skank any more adsense revenue to recruit more knee-jerk statist asshats to her cause, please.
 
2009-11-13 10:10:55 PM
Mountain out of a molehill.
 
2009-11-13 10:12:44 PM
toddalmighty: The military lying is the rule, not the exception.

Right. Because the minute the shooting stopped, the redheaded twins from "Good Morning Vietnam" showed up and ordered them to pretend the killer was dead for exactly one day, and also to tell everyone Munley killed the shooter rather than the other guy.

Of course, it's possible the media's usual rush to gather and publish whatever they could find added to the confusion, especially since most outlets will simply copy and paste the first guy to get something online, which perpetuates mistakes until the dust settles and a clearer picture of what really happened emerges....

Nah. They're lying.
 
2009-11-13 10:12:48 PM
Magazine changes with a semi-automatic pistol can be done in much less than 1 second. And as a terrorist, Hassan probably prepared himself for this "mission" at least a moderate amount before doing it. Him being able to change magazines and fire as many rounds as he did isn't fishy at all.
 
2009-11-13 10:15:24 PM
Ghastly: Well if Michael Jackson wasn't already dead they could well have both been right.

Michael Jackson is dead? I saw him yesterday with Elvis and Tupac.
 
2009-11-13 10:15:36 PM
Sun God: He killed 12 people and wounded about 40. That means he had at least 42 rounds of ammo, and he was a perfect shot. Which I doubt he was. He apparently had two handguns: A semiautomatic pistol, and a revolver. Doesn't seem possible unless he had a big magazine for the semiauto abd could reload rapidly. Seems fishy.

And shot two people each with 10 of them?
 
2009-11-13 10:16:11 PM
It's clear he was brainwashed by the CIA to shift support back to the republitards in the coming years. A second Obama administration might mean a scaling back of the military industrial complex, and we can't have that. Paleschurian Candidate, anyone?
 
2009-11-13 10:17:24 PM
arkansas: Gawd I hate this. Truth is that both a white woman and a black man bravely confronted a homicidal maniac when most of us would have been running the fark away.

And now we have to proceed to analyze the hell out of it in terms of race and gender until both of them are torn down.

Screw that. Thank you brave PEOPLE.


THIS Thread over, douchemitter.
 
2009-11-13 10:17:52 PM

Despite the fact that both people confronted the murderer, why is it wrong to sort out who did what? If it doesn't matter then everyone might as well believe the good Lord came down Himself and plugged the guy full of lead.


Or are you all upset with the Media, who's gonna act like they usally do which is to fark everything up?

 
2009-11-13 10:18:30 PM
arkansas: And now we have to proceed to analyze the hell out of it in terms of race and gender until both of them are torn down.

Welcome to cultural criticism, Frankfurt School-style. The collapse of the Soviet Union made Marxist advocacy of class consciousness/class warfare ridiculous, so a whole group of intellectual lightweights turned to trying to foment ethnic/religious/other cultural conflict instead. Obviously (sarcasm), the only solution to a world in which there is is no overarching narrative except how awful whites/men/rich people are is to have the government control everything. Of course, this group of demagogues is too nutty and too extreme to join up on the left flank of the Democratic party, so they remain forever marginalized and pump out shiatty writing and trite analyses on the circle jerk that is "progressive" (or, when they're feeling slightly less euphemistic, "social democratic") internet punditry.
 
2009-11-13 10:20:15 PM
Sun God: He killed 12 people and wounded about 40. That means he had at least 42 rounds of ammo, and he was a perfect shot. Which I doubt he was. He apparently had two handguns: A semiautomatic pistol, and a revolver. Doesn't seem possible unless he had a big magazine for the semiauto abd could reload rapidly. Seems fishy.

The FN "Five-seveN" pistol fires a teeny-tiny high velocity 5.7mm round and has a 20 round magazine (or a 30 round magazine that extends out of the magazine well). 100 rounds isn't all that implausible.

Just like all the other "if it bleeds it leads" stories, the true story will come out in a month or two, long after the ADHD cable TV media has moved on to something else.
 
2009-11-13 10:21:21 PM
Fark, stop posting blogs.

Signed Incredibly Rich White Guy:

black guy, white girl, both are a couple of stone cold motherfarkers.
 
2009-11-13 10:21:57 PM
If the black guy had been given credit and it was later discovered that the white chick was the hero, I don't think we'd hear the end of it from Fox "News", Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, the Drudge Report, Freepers, Teabaggers and the rest of the loony brigade.

"Political correctness!" they'd all scream. "Racism against whites!"

And a lot of Farkers would have agreed with them.

But when it turns out that the black guy was the real hero and the white chick was given more credit than was due...crickets.
 
2009-11-13 10:22:13 PM
MightyMouse plays better than BigWilly.
 
2009-11-13 10:22:26 PM
In the end, it really doesn't matter. Does it.
 
2009-11-13 10:22:48 PM
img.moronail.net

/Obligatory
 
2009-11-13 10:23:08 PM
Ghastly: Well if Michael Jackson wasn't already dead they could well have both been right.

Don't post spoilers!!
 
2009-11-13 10:24:51 PM
arkansas: Gawd I hate this. Truth is that both a white woman and a black man bravely confronted a homicidal maniac when most of us would have been running the fark away.

And now we have to proceed to analyze the hell out of it in terms of race and gender until both of them are torn down.

Screw that. Thank you brave PEOPLE.


Its amazing, the girl got shot and he wants to belittle her through his blog? What a douche, besides I have seen both of them on every TV station, together, not just her. The interview I saw didnt even elevate one above the other, just notated both of them for their bravery. Writer can die in a commercial blender.

Besides the black cop should be punished for having bad aim, he should have just shot him in the head and been done with him, now we get to have this media circus for the next year or so.
 
2009-11-13 10:25:36 PM
jimmyschmidt: It's clear he was brainwashed by the CIA to shift support back to the republitards in the coming years. A second Obama administration might mean a scaling back of the military industrial complex, and we can't have that. Paleschurian Candidate, anyone?

Wait. What about the first Obama administration? You mean, *sniff*, we have to wait? But he said he'd do it right away! *sniff*
 
2009-11-13 10:25:59 PM
eraser8: But when it turns out that the black guy was the real hero and the white chick was given more credit than was due...crickets.

Nobody is saying anything against giving the man his due. But the idea that "HURF DURF MILITARY LIED PEOPLE DIED" is somehow implicated in reports involving civilian responders that were muddled in a very confusing situation by the media - and then corrected relatively soon after - is ridiculous. It's the epitome of a shallow, featherweight argument by a guy who wants to construct some grand narrative of oppression in the US or lies by the military from behind his farking hornrims and latte at Caribou Coffee.
 
2009-11-13 10:27:49 PM
I especially like the part in the article I read earlier where his wife said "he wanted to keep it hidden, to let her take the credit", but it was the guy's mother who called up the press to say something.

This is turning into a race issue. Big shock.

Who the hell cares? Couldn't stand seeing someone get credit and had to step up to claim some fame and money too?

Pretty pathetic, really.
 
2009-11-13 10:28:49 PM
Oh noes! Teh media (of which the article writer is a part) is often untruthful and inaccurate!
machine-crusade.net
 
2009-11-13 10:29:49 PM
Gender and ethnicity are irrelevant. It does matter, however, that the wrong person was credited.

If you were the guy who saved the day and saw someone else congratulated, you might be irked.
 
2009-11-13 10:29:59 PM
When I posted in this thread (new window) that I didn't think she was a hero or even shot the guy I was called a troll, stupid, dickweed. I still have doubts that Maj. Hasan was even the shooter. Since eyewitnesses said there were three shooters and other eyewitnesses saw two being arrested and whisked away in cars with government plates.

the whole story stinks
 
2009-11-13 10:30:37 PM
Relatively Obscure: arkansas: Gawd I hate this. Truth is that both a white woman and a black man bravely confronted a homicidal maniac when most of us would have been running the fark away.

And now we have to proceed to analyze the hell out of it in terms of race and gender until both of them are torn down.

Screw that. Thank you brave PEOPLE.


This can't be repeated enough.
 
2009-11-13 10:31:21 PM
Obama is half black and half white, let's just say Obama shot the motherfarker.
 
2009-11-13 10:32:22 PM
The Face Of Oblivion: But the idea that "HURF DURF MILITARY LIED PEOPLE DIED" is somehow implicated in reports involving civilian responders that were muddled in a very confusing situation by the media - and then corrected relatively soon after - is ridiculous.

It's not ridiculous. He asks a very good question. Why did we hear so much about Jessica Lynch and next to nothing about Shoshana Johnson? Why was the military and the media so eager to run with the story about the woman as the hero?

And think about the scenario I posed: do you really believe -- had the situation been reversed -- that the talking heads at Fox and elsewhere would have accepted the mistake with a collective shrug of the shoulders?
 
2009-11-13 10:32:37 PM
Phoenix_M: When I posted in this thread (new window) that I didn't think she was a hero or even shot the guy I was called a troll, stupid, dickweed. I still have doubts that Maj. Hasan was even the shooter. Since eyewitnesses said there were three shooters and other eyewitnesses saw two being arrested and whisked away in cars with government plates.

the whole story stinks


Yeah, it was nano-thermite!

Idiot. The farking media gets breaking news wrong all the time. Only a farking asshat would spin it into a complete conspiracy.

Are you an asshat?
 
2009-11-13 10:32:41 PM
WFern: Gender and ethnicity are irrelevant. It does matter, however, that the wrong person was credited.

If you were the guy who saved the day and saw someone else congratulated, you might be irked.


Not if we both shot at him. I wouldn't care.
But that's just me.

/unless there's a large check.
//Article writer is a D-Bag of the highest source
///Would like proof the writer is as brave as the people he condemns.
 
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