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2009-11-13 06:13:26 PM
Twenty minutes? Oh, subby, ever the optimist. A true rookie hick could add on twenty minutes just to the process of getting off the plane. That's not even starting to count what they and their ilk add to security wait times (trying to wear their knee-high boots through security, having their laptop buried at the bottom of the bag that they've already tried to push through the scanner, having each toiletry item in a separate pouch or pocket of two different bags, and so on); gate wait times (losing their boarding pass, not having their boarding pass in hand, trying to board with the wrong group, and so on); time finding a seat (is C window or aisle? oh, my bag won't fit into the overhead! oops, I accidentally passed my seat); time navigating into the seat (goodness, they make these so narrow! oh, excuse me, I forgot to get my magazine out of the bag I just stuffed into the overhead! oops, I'm actually in that row up there!); time spent moving back down the aisle to their real seat because they accidentally sat down four rows further than they should have (oopsie!), and so on and so on and so on.

Really, what airlines need to do is have training airplanes and real airplanes. People only get to fly on training airplanes until they've demonstrated that they understand how to handle flying on adult ones.
 
2009-11-13 06:19:55 PM
Pocket Ninja: and so on and so on and so on.

You forgot "puts carry-on shiat 9 rows behind where they're seated, and then on exiting the plane, expects everyone else to wait while they wade back through the humanity in the aisles to get their shiat instead of waiting until the entire plane empties out"
 
2009-11-13 06:23:46 PM
Christ on a stick! If you're so important, fly on a private plane, get upgraded or STFU.

Modern air travel is the equivalent of the bus now. It sucks. Get used to it.

/mostly kidding
 
2009-11-13 07:10:28 PM
The greatest reform to come out of 9/11 was keeping non-passengers behind the security gates. My Boobies 9/11 flight was like a vacation in the terminal.
 
2009-11-13 07:19:19 PM
Mentat: My Boobies 9/11 flight was like a vacation in the terminal

Sometimes the filter is a beautiful thing.
 
2009-11-13 07:23:09 PM
Pocket Ninja: Mentat: My Boobies 9/11 flight was like a vacation in the terminal

Sometimes the filter is a beautiful thing.


Goddamnit, I went years without a filterpwn. YEARS.
 
2009-11-13 07:47:41 PM
Mentat: Pocket Ninja: Mentat: My Boobies 9/11 flight was like a vacation in the terminal

Sometimes the filter is a beautiful thing.

Goddamnit, I went years without a filterpwn. YEARS.


startswithabang.com
 
2009-11-13 08:16:35 PM
announcer: Now boarding zone 2.
hick: what did he say? i was on the phone
announcer: Zone 2, now boarding
hick: we're zone 4, is that us?
hick's friend: I have zone 5, so maybe we can go on now
announcer: Zone 2
hicks in unison: crowd closer to the front and block everyone, we're next! grab the bag of fried food that we didn't eat while we were waiting in the terminal so we can open it after everyone sits down in the plane. also, get your fat flappy butt cheeks ready to fart a lot because I think we're next to cake hunter and his nose is clogged so he's going to have to gulp it all down through his mouth.

god, i hate vegas.
 
2009-11-13 08:55:20 PM
Mentat: Goddamnit, I went years without a filterpwn. YEARS.

Number of days since a filterpwn accident - 0.
 
2009-11-13 09:17:12 PM
When I was doing the the Chicago-Vancouver trip every three weeks for 3 1/2 years, I thought the $250 dollars for a years worth of economy plus was well worth it. No kids up front, just frequent fliers. All business no muss. I felt bad for those behind rows 15-16.

The funniest is when someone at the rear tried to put his bags up front and the stewardess told him to take it back with him (happened on almost every flight).
 
2009-11-13 09:24:25 PM
Archie Goodwin: Mentat: Goddamnit, I went years without a filterpwn. YEARS.

Number of days since a filterpwn accident - 0.


If you try to dock my pay, I'm calling the union.
 
2009-11-13 10:02:31 PM
If the airlines was better about getting luggage to the right places, maybe people would be less inclined to carry on so much.
 
2009-11-13 10:09:24 PM
Flights were always on time till the hicks discovered planes. It all makes sense now.
 
2009-11-13 10:20:14 PM
Well several months ago I got on an airplane for the first time since about 1996 or so. Here are my thoughts.

Goddamit security took forever and was crap. Even though it had been a decade since I'd seen the inside of an airport I could see several possible ways to sneak bad things through security without significant effort.

You would think they would have better latches on those stupid overhead bins.

Everyone, please quit complaining about how cramped it is while on the plane, we all know. It's not that bad anyway. My work car has less leg room and personal space with all the stuff I have crammed in it. If you want personal space, get 1st class or get in your car.

Then we get to Sea-Tac and they shut down the trams for some BS security scare, won't tell us anything, then fire up everything again after 20 minutes with no further explanation. Thank goodness the people who run the shuttle buses are reasonable and they waited for those of us who got stuck.

Now I see why so many people would rather drive than fly.
 
2009-11-13 11:07:42 PM
wingedkat: If the airlines was better about getting luggage to the right places, maybe people would be less inclined to carry on so much.

That's what my friend and I did. He told me to pack as LIGHT as possible and take it on with me because if I checked it, my luggage would not make it to Sea-Tac and if it did it would not be in one piece. He flys a heck of a lot more than I do so I took his word on that.

My boss likes to ship his luggage via UPS rather than check it with the airline. Then just take a small carry on with him on the plane.
 
2009-11-14 12:00:01 AM
Planes should just fly empty. Then you wouldn't have any problems.
 
2009-11-14 12:00:32 AM
Hicks who rarely take public transit make it take 20 minutes for the rest of us to get on and off the bus/car/airplane/train.
 
2009-11-14 12:02:24 AM
Anyone familiar with the new Jet Blue terminal at JFK? I've got a trip up to Buffalo in a few weeks. Do the bars serve drinks in the morning?

/Farking Continental discontinued the 737 on the Newark-Buffalo route, so now you can only fly those tiny plane that either crash or lose wheels on landing.
 
2009-11-14 12:05:25 AM
"I'm Big Joe Carryon! I don't check nothing!"
 
2009-11-14 12:06:55 AM
I stopped carrying on a bag years ago. When I fly, I have a medium-sized purse and a book--that's it. When that plane lands, I want to get the hell off. So, while the rest of you are struggling with shifted cargo in the overhead compartments, I'm halfway up the ramp.
 
2009-11-14 12:08:35 AM
What about the morons that have all the jewelry they own on them and are SHOCKED when they have to remove it for the metal detector. Those people make me want to kill.
 
2009-11-14 12:08:45 AM
Flying hicks no longer bother me. I'm very Zen about these morans. Idiots are everywhere. EVERYWHERE. Including planes. They will impede my progress until the day I pass onto my Great Reward. Acceptance is the first step people.
 
2009-11-14 12:09:49 AM
It doesn't help that many airlines have begun charging for checked baggage. So everyone that would've checked a bag before now tries to carry on as much as they possibly can.

They charge one rate for the firs bag, then bump it up for the second, third etc...

Guaranteed to increase oversized carry-ons.
 
2009-11-14 12:12:03 AM
Earl of Chives: Flying hicks no longer bother me. I'm very Zen about these morans. Idiots are everywhere. EVERYWHERE. Including planes. They will impede my progress until the day I pass onto my Great Reward. Acceptance is the first step people.

And then they'll be holding up the line into heaven.
 
2009-11-14 12:12:04 AM
MrEricSir: Hicks who rarely take public transit make it take 20 minutes for the rest of us to get on and off the bus/car/airplane/train.

Protesters in DC were the worse. Absolutely no Metro etiquette and were shocked when people were short with them because of it. If people asked me for directions I told the scared white people to get off at Anacostia.

/wonder how many ever listened to me.
 
2009-11-14 12:13:42 AM
brigid_fitch: I stopped carrying on a bag years ago. When I fly, I have a medium-sized purse and a book--that's it. When that plane lands, I want to get the hell off. So, while the rest of you are struggling with shifted cargo in the overhead compartments, I'm halfway up the ramp.

Lies! The dumbasses who are struggling with their shifted cargo stand in the aisle as they do so. The only way you could be halfway up the ramp is if you're flying first class.
 
2009-11-14 12:13:58 AM
Didja ever step up to the counter, and as you're checking in you notice that the a couple of novice travelers trying to check in right next to you are in tears because no one ever told them they needed to be at the airport a hell of a lot earlier than 20 minutes before their flight's scheduled departure time? For an international flight?

It's hilarious, isn't it?
 
2009-11-14 12:14:28 AM
I've often thought that if there was a planeload of me, it would empty out in just a few minutes. Because the instant it's my turn, I'm moving down the aisle and gone.

And I don't absolutely have to have my free Coke on a 35-minute flight.

muck4doo: Flights were always on time till the hicks discovered planes

And back then men wore suits and ties on planes, while ladies wore dresses, white gloves and hats. I remember I got a new suit as a kid to fly.
 
2009-11-14 12:15:13 AM
People who live in red, flyover states are stupid and useless, and the world would be better off without them.
 
2009-11-14 12:16:24 AM
Xanax & Scotch FTW
 
2009-11-14 12:17:52 AM
bobbarker02: People who live in red, flyover states are stupid and useless, and the world would be better off without them.

Yeah, let the chinese grow all of our food.

/flys with a backpack, nothing else.
 
2009-11-14 12:18:04 AM
Karma Chameleon: Xanax & Scotch FTW

and who needs a plane?
 
2009-11-14 12:19:33 AM
Mentat,
I approve of your filterpwn. As a fellow Mizzou fan (student), I know all too well what it's like to think you've got shiat down, only to have it thrown into your face.

/feces in face!
//M-I-Z
/Not ready for K.State
end threadjack
 
2009-11-14 12:20:05 AM
Just the hicks, eh, subracistmitter? Guess it's a good thing that porch monkeys, spics, and chinks who don't fly very often don't cause these same problems. Oh, and I know, "hick" is a term used to describe anyone who doesn't get out much, right? Just like the N-word is used to describe any ignorant person, right? Dickhead.
 
2009-11-14 12:20:30 AM
Cake Hunter: crowd closer to the front and block everyone, we're next!

I also find this to be an annoying behavior, and it's getting worse. I suspect that it is related to the additional charges for checked bags, so everyone is carrying-on and is worried about the availability of overhead space. Nonetheless, it is frustrating to navigate around people crowding the boarding station before their section has been called to board.
 
2009-11-14 12:20:52 AM
Ugh, I know that I'm gonna be one of those infrequent travellers with a carry on next month, but I actually want my luggage to end up at the same place at the same time I'll be.

Of course, I at least make an attempt to make things easier (put my clothes in zip lock bags so they're more compact and easier for TSA to rifle through, don't bring anything I don't have to have, try to keep things as compact as possible, etc). Hopefully I only delay things 1 or 2 minutes instead of 20 :)
 
2009-11-14 12:21:59 AM
I ran into that couple in the Starbucks at the Atlanta International terminal, they had gotten "lucky" and were re-routed from a De1ta flight going to Frankfurt to an American flight, I think. I started to feel sorry for them, until the guy said something about "how are people supposed to know about these things? They didn't tell us until we got here and then it was too late!"

My snark fell out and I had to tell him that if he read the contract of carriage, or the webpages or emails that Orbitz or Travelocity puts up, that he would have known when he spent his life savings on this vacation.
 
2009-11-14 12:22:19 AM
BULLSHIAT BULL FARKING shiat

You want the reason people are trying to cram insanely large shiat into the overhead bins? farkING CHARGING FOR THE FIRST CHECKED BAG!fark CNN, fark THE AIRLINES, AND fark YOU, SUBBY! This is a "created" problem by people as worthlessly stupid as submitter. Thanks, you farking idiots. Reap what you have sown.

Retards.

RETARDS!
 
2009-11-14 12:23:07 AM
bobbarker02: People who live in red, flyover states are stupid and useless, and the world would be better off without them.

2/10. Too cliche' anymore.
 
2009-11-14 12:23:16 AM
Yeah?
On my last flight, I sat next to Jeffrey...

/
 
2009-11-14 12:23:41 AM
Gotta give credit to the people who stand up as soon as they can when the plane lands and think they can pull down their 2 oversized carryons, then get ahead of 27 rows of passengers and be the first ones out... credit for being the biggest douchebags, of course.
 
2009-11-14 12:23:51 AM
People who are too poor to afford a private charter probably shouldn't be calling others hicks.
 
2009-11-14 12:24:18 AM
KOOLmike: Just the hicks, eh, subracistmitter? Guess it's a good thing that porch monkeys, spics, and chinks who don't fly very often don't cause these same problems. Oh, and I know, "hick" is a term used to describe anyone who doesn't get out much, right? Just like the N-word is used to describe any ignorant person, right? Dickhead.

Attractive and successful troll-american is attractive and successful?
 
2009-11-14 12:25:39 AM
drewkumo: bobbarker02: People who live in red, flyover states are stupid and useless, and the world would be better off without them.

Yeah, let the chinese grow all of our food.

/flys with a backpack, nothing else.


Grow all our food and design buildings and software and medicine and aeronautics and so on ad infinitum. Have either of you ever met anyone (movies don't count) that wasn't from either coast?
 
2009-11-14 12:26:06 AM
belowner: BULLSHIAT BULL FARKING shiat

You want the reason people are trying to cram insanely large shiat into the overhead bins? farkING CHARGING FOR THE FIRST CHECKED BAG!fark CNN, fark THE AIRLINES, AND fark YOU, SUBBY! This is a "created" problem by people as worthlessly stupid as submitter. Thanks, you farking idiots. Reap what you have sown.

Retards.

RETARDS!


Somebody didn't get their rum and Dramamine this evening.
 
2009-11-14 12:26:41 AM
Petit_Merdeux: Modern air travel is the equivalent of the bus now. It sucks. Get used to it.

Even transatlantic flights are this way. I did two 15 hour flights in two weeks recently, stuck both times in an "other-than-aisle" seat. Bad for me, and for my seat-mates, as I have to drink loads of water, which means getting up. I spent a LOT of time hanging out in the galley with the cabin crew, as usual.

Worst time: Five hours in, and knowing you still have twice as long still to go. Handy hint: don't even try to drink on a flight. Just not worth it.
 
2009-11-14 12:26:42 AM
bobbarker02: People who live in red, flyover states are stupid and useless, and the world would be better off without them.

But you'd starve.

Oh, a Californian. Not surprised. You're entire state can't figure out how to make money now that entertainment distribution isn't a monopoly.
 
2009-11-14 12:28:44 AM
KOOLmike: Just the hicks, eh, subracistmitter? Guess it's a good thing that porch monkeys, spics, and chinks who don't fly very often don't cause these same problems. Oh, and I know, "hick" is a term used to describe anyone who doesn't get out much, right? Just like the N-word is used to describe any ignorant person, right? Dickhead.

A couple of these & you'll feel better.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2009-11-14 12:30:55 AM
> BULLSHIAT BULL FARKING shiat

> You want the reason people are trying to cram insanely large shiat > into the overhead bins? farkING CHARGING FOR THE FIRST CHECKED
> BAG!fark CNN, fark THE AIRLINES, AND fark YOU, SUBBY! This is
> a "created" problem by people as worthlessly stupid as
> submitter. Thanks, you farking idiots. Reap what you have sown.

> Retards.

> RETARDS!


+1

get rid of the charge for the first bag, and people won't need to carry their stuff on.
 
2009-11-14 12:31:17 AM
I flew a couple months ago, the first time in about five years. I actually took 15 minutes to look up rules of the airline I was flying and TSA information before packing anything. I ended up going through security faster than the business traveler looking guy in the line next to me. Finding my seat was easy thanks to my abilities to read 1-32, ABC DEF, and to recognize a picture of a window on a sticker placed above a row of seats. Out of laziness, I placed my carry on bag directly above the seat I sat in. Weird, I know.
It just isn't that difficult, people. Actually, all my flights went smoothly and nobody made a scene or fuss about anything. The worst part of the whole experience was the plane was out of Pepsi
 
2009-11-14 12:31:46 AM
fark you and your 20 minutes on a plane at the fkin departure gate.

there are idiots all around, and the people i find most annoying are the stuck up little shiats from BIGshiatCITY yelling into their blackberrys/iphones about how they have to wait in line to exit.

suck my cock, get a job where you are actually happy, and take your farking time.
 
2009-11-14 12:33:23 AM
rolladuck: Somebody didn't get their rum and Dramamine this evening.

Absent my dramatics, my argument is still correct.

The airlines created this mess in an attempt to gather more fees. You don't get charged a baggage fee if they have to check a "carry on" at the gate.

All they have done is encourage people to bring as much as possible to the gate instead of checking it.
 
2009-11-14 12:34:22 AM
I never understand why everyone rushes to get on the plane. Its like a lineup for Space Mountain, everyone pushing to be at the front, leaning over to see why the line isn't moving, and stampeding down the ramp onto the plane. I like to wait for final boarding call, stretch my legs out in the lounge one last time, and when the last couple people clear from the line, then get up and make my way down. 5 fewer minutes in that sardine can of a disease festering petri-dish is fine with me.

Still working on a good exit strategy though.
 
2009-11-14 12:34:22 AM
This shiat continues at the rental car counter, too. Imagine stumbling into Hertz after a 12 hour flight and finding that the person in front of you has to ask them about every. single. detail. about how the car rental process works.

/in this case it was "urban hicks."
 
2009-11-14 12:34:44 AM
Raddamant: The worst part of the whole experience was the plane was out of Pepsi

There will be a hilarious post about how this is actually a good thing within 5 posts. Well, there would have been. By observing it we've changed its quantum state.
 
2009-11-14 12:34:55 AM
KOOLmike: Just the hicks, eh, subracistmitter? Guess it's a good thing that porch monkeys, spics, and chinks who don't fly very often don't cause these same problems. Oh, and I know, "hick" is a term used to describe anyone who doesn't get out much, right? Just like the N-word is used to describe any ignorant person, right? Dickhead.

Obvious troll is obvious. By the way I'm glad you feel you can say all those but not the "n-word".

squeez cheez: A couple of these & you'll feel better.

www.phentamine.net

FTFY.
 
2009-11-14 12:34:56 AM
brigid_fitch: I stopped carrying on a bag years ago. When I fly, I have a medium-sized purse and a book--that's it. When that plane lands, I want to get the hell off. So, while the rest of you are struggling with shifted cargo in the overhead compartments, I'm halfway up the ramp. stuck in my seat for 45 goddam minutes waiting for all you rubes to lazily retrieve your crap from the overhead bins and corral your screaming brats before I can use the aisle to leave the plane.

FTFY
 
2009-11-14 12:35:27 AM
This goes for every person complaining in this thread about having to wait. I think it's funny that people are making you wait needlessly. The next time you are dealing with this at an airport, I want you to think of me laughing at you. Think of me laughing and pointing at you and mocking you. Have a nice day.
 
2009-11-14 12:35:54 AM
How about Joe douche-bag on his cell phone that takes 10 minutes to wrestle his bags out of the overhead bin using his only free hand, then proceeds to spend another few minutes arranging everything while 100 other people stand behind him and wait. It doesn't even occur to him that he's inconveniencing anyone else or maybe he just really doesn't care.

Oblivious people everywhere, not just newbies. You see them in the left lane on highways, standing in the middle of moving "walkways," taking forever to order at the coffee counter despite standing there 5 minutes staring at the menu board before it was their turn. They just don't give a rats ass about anyone but themselves. There is no one on this planet but them.

Stupid people annoy me, but it's the self righteous masters of the universe that really piss me off.
 
2009-11-14 12:36:32 AM
Mmmm_Hogfat: This shiat continues at the rental car counter, too. Imagine stumbling into Hertz after a 12 hour flight and finding that the person in front of you has to ask them about every. single. detail. about how the car rental process works.

/in this case it was "urban hicks."


I'm always stuck behind people debating themselves about whether or not to buy the insurance. You have car insurance, moran.
 
2009-11-14 12:41:01 AM
I've decided that the next time I fly I'm going to do it in a full '50s getup- dress, heels, gloves, and a hat if I can find it. maybe a scarf over my head will do.
I'll shove my blackberry and DS into a tiny purse and pull them out.

My only question is what to do with my valuables since I can't put them in my checked bag.
 
2009-11-14 12:42:24 AM
LOL at all the douchebags that think that are cool because they use public transportation often. Good work 'hicks'!
 
2009-11-14 12:44:21 AM
Arnold T Pants: LOL at all the douchebags that think that are cool because they use public transportation often. Good work 'hicks'!

LOL at all the douchebags who think that private airlines are public transportation. Good work 'moran'!
 
2009-11-14 12:44:54 AM
Life is pesky when you have to deal with all kinds of people...

I get annoyed by lots of things when I am grouped in with a bunch of people but I am attempting to find that zen place where I just let it go.

I was at the mall a few hours ago and the line was long. The friendly little check out girl just wanted to chitty chat with every customer. The first thought in my head was, shut the eff up and ring people up for Christ's sake you heehaw. Then I went to my happy place and used the time in line to list out the stuff I need to do tomorrow. I'm working on my patience and tolerance for other people's way of functioning. She was just being friendly (and slow...like molasses). /Cool story sis
 
2009-11-14 12:45:21 AM
belowner: rolladuck: Somebody didn't get their rum and Dramamine this evening.

Absent my dramatics, my argument is still correct.

The airlines created this mess in an attempt to gather more fees. You don't get charged a baggage fee if they have to check a "carry on" at the gate.

All they have done is encourage people to bring as much as possible to the gate instead of checking it.


I'm going to disagree. Maybe it has gotten a tad worse since the fees launched, but not much. I expected the scenario you describe to happen, but I just haven't seen it. Granted I only fly once a week so maybe my sample size it too small, but people have always tried to bring all their junk on-board instead of checking because they once heard that the airline lost their second cousin's bag in 1978 and she lost some valuable t-shirts and some toothpaste so they must never check anything.
 
2009-11-14 12:47:38 AM
"There's clearly a problem. The rules, as much as they exist, are rarely enforced," Miller said. "The only place where it's not a problem, in my experience, is in Europe, and that's because they actually enforce the rules.

You're kidding, right? Last time I checked, the freakin' airport in Buffalo...BUFFALO...got their knickers in a twist because I had two lighters (one in my pocket and one buried at the bottom of my purse that I failed to declare). No..the rules are RARELY enforced in the US, it's all the fault of those crazy Europeans.
 
2009-11-14 12:50:51 AM
drewkumo: LOL at all the douchebags who think that private airlines are public transportation. Good work 'moran'!

It's transportation for public use. It's public transportation, moron.
 
2009-11-14 12:51:23 AM
If I can't roll it and fit it in my one Züca it ain't going.
 
2009-11-14 12:53:12 AM
Earl of Chives: I expected the scenario you describe to happen, but I just haven't seen it.

Either you are lying, you work for the airlines, or you don't fly routes with tourists. All could be true, or only one of them could be true.

I fly twice a month from "destination" cities, which is airline bullshiat for high traffic areas, and the luggage people try to carry onto a plane has increased exponentially. Anything that even looks like a carry-on they will bring.
 
2009-11-14 12:53:40 AM
Check in is for people carrying weapons, alcohol items no longer permitted in carryon and people staying somewhere more than 3-4 days (depending on the person). I've check in a bag once in my last 15 trips and it was because of the alcohol I brought back.
 
2009-11-14 12:53:52 AM
I always check my bag and sit in the back of the airplane with the hopes of getting a window seat and nobody in the middle one.

And I really hate it when I have to wait for everyone ahead of me to get their crap out of the overstuffed overhead bins.

\that's what I get for being antisocial
 
2009-11-14 12:55:02 AM
bluehubcap: "There's clearly a problem. The rules, as much as they exist, are rarely enforced," Miller said. "The only place where it's not a problem, in my experience, is in Europe, and that's because they actually enforce the rules.

You're kidding, right? Last time I checked, the freakin' airport in Buffalo...BUFFALO...got their knickers in a twist because I had two lighters (one in my pocket and one buried at the bottom of my purse that I failed to declare). No..the rules are RARELY enforced in the US, it's all the fault of those crazy Europeans.


Carry on luggage rules. As in the size of and method of storage on the plane. Nothing whatsoever to do with TSA and your problems.
 
2009-11-14 12:55:06 AM
Arnold T Pants: It's transportation for public use. It's public transportation, moron.

Yeah just like a charter jet company is. Or a taxi is.
 
2009-11-14 12:57:57 AM
belowner: Earl of Chives: I expected the scenario you describe to happen, but I just haven't seen it.

Either you are lying, you work for the airlines, or you don't fly routes with tourists. All could be true, or only one of them could be true.

I fly twice a month from "destination" cities, which is airline bullshiat for high traffic areas, and the luggage people try to carry onto a plane has increased exponentially. Anything that even looks like a carry-on they will bring.


I think we are talking about two separate things. Maybe what they try to get on has increased, but actual luggage on the plane? Seems the same.
 
2009-11-14 12:58:55 AM
drewkumo: Yeah just like a charter jet company is. Or a taxi is.

No, it isn't just like for hire transportation, moron.
 
2009-11-14 01:01:19 AM
Come on, we all know it's airport security that's causing all the delays. The hicks are just scapegoats.


img.photobucket.com

What a hick may look like.
 
2009-11-14 01:01:29 AM
drewkumo: KOOLmike: Just the hicks, eh, subracistmitter? Guess it's a good thing that porch monkeys, spics, and chinks who don't fly very often don't cause these same problems. Oh, and I know, "hick" is a term used to describe anyone who doesn't get out much, right? Just like the N-word is used to describe any ignorant person, right? Dickhead.

Obvious troll is obvious. By the way I'm glad you feel you can say all those but not the "n-word".



Well, I'm glad that you're glad, but I think you took my post too much at face value. I merely used those terms to illustrate the double standard that exists with words like the one used by SUBASSHOLE. Sorry if you were offended, oh glad one...
 
2009-11-14 01:01:58 AM
Earl of Chives: Maybe what they try to get on has increased, but actual luggage on the plane? Seems the same.

I'll avoid the "all caps", but god farking dammit do I want to.

The luggage hasn't changed. The only thing that has changed is whether you check it or take it to the gate.

If you want to save money - you can bring anything to the gate. They just check it for free when you try to board the plane. No "first checked bag" fee.
 
2009-11-14 01:02:39 AM
You spend 3 days in Hawai'i wearing the same clothes as your bags slowly catch up to where you are, and you'll never check a bag again...

your superiority complex will not keep me from never checking my bags again... your crappy attitude will only get you more ignored as I sink deeper into the music on my mp3 player... it's my flight too, asshole
 
2009-11-14 01:03:02 AM
My last two trips were Kansas City to Nuremberg (via Detroit & Amsterdam) and KC to Washington DC (Reagan National, direct). Single standard sized carry-on and a briefcase both times. Carry-on in overhead, briefcase under seat in front of me. Pleasant flights.

The nice thing about starting in KC is that you can do the electronic check-in, get your boarding pass, and clear security in 10 minutes if you've got your stuff together. Under 5 minutes if you've got an early morning flight. Which means you can make an international transfer in Detroit with a 45 minute layover, with plenty of time to spare. Hell, you can unload a 747, clear passport control and customs, AND cross the entire Schiphol airport to make another connection in under an hour.

Basically, pick flights at inconvenient times, and start somewhere other than a jam-packed airport. You end up with a flight made up of mostly business travelers who know how to pack, know the security shenanigans, and know how to behave.
 
2009-11-14 01:03:24 AM
Arnold T Pants: No, it isn't just like for hire transportation, moron.

Alright I concede. It's more like, when people pay to get taken into space.

/actually its more like kodak film...heh heh heh
 
2009-11-14 01:04:01 AM
I may or may not be a hick (I don't feel qualified to judge myself on that front), but I don't cause delays for anyone else when I fly, even when I'm traveling with the kids. Especially then, really. We always wait until everyone else on and then board with our generally well-behaved but easily excitable offspring. When the flights over, we wait until everyone else is off. Of course, we always check everything but a small backpack of kid distractions, so that helps. Even when I'm traveling by myself, I prefer to finish an extra drink at the bar rather than rush to be first in my group to board.

/Come to think of it, I'd also rather have a few drinks at the bar when traveling with my kids
 
2009-11-14 01:04:47 AM
KOOLmike: Well, I'm glad that you're glad, but I think you took my post too much at face value. I merely used those terms to illustrate the double standard that exists with words like the one used by SUBASSHOLE. Sorry if you were offended, oh glad one...

I know how hard it is to be white and to be persecuted and discriminated against so I can relate.
 
2009-11-14 01:05:28 AM
Interestingly the quickest load to push-off I've experienced was a full 747 leaving Taipei. From the time they stated loading the plane to when they locked the door and started to roll away from the gate was under well under 30 minutes. And we were in the air less then 10 minutes after that. I think that one thing that helped and was something I had not seen is that they had two gateway bridges connecting to two doors on the plane. Some people were still putting stuff away in the overhead bins.
 
2009-11-14 01:06:04 AM
Britney Spear's Speculum: Check in is for people carrying weapons, alcohol items no longer permitted in carryon and people staying somewhere more than 3-4 days (depending on the person). I've check in a bag once in my last 15 trips and it was because of the alcohol I brought back.

I've actually been told that checking a weapon is the best way to ensure that your checked bag does not get lost, because they track that bag like crazy until it reaches its destination.

/have not tried this personally.
 
2009-11-14 01:06:57 AM
Karma Chameleon: Xanax & Scotch FTW

you might be the one holding everyone up when they find a non-breathing patient on the plane and have to make an emergency landing--it's hard to OD on benzos but not hard to OD on benzos and alcohol

just pick one or the other, they hit the same receptors
 
2009-11-14 01:08:53 AM
it's such a tragedy to be able to get to a destination in a tenth of the time it takes by car.

*pack up the conestoga, ma!*
 
2009-11-14 01:09:07 AM
The cell phone talkers are the worst. A lot of people don't realize they shout when they're on the phone -- and it's so awesome being crammed into a metal tube listing to some idiot shout his personal business to the entire plane while I'm trying to get by him to pull my bag down. Learn to text message - it's discreet and you won't risk getting pulled into a long phone conversation.

Years ago, before bluetooth headsets, I was waiting for a flight at John Wayne in CA. Crowded terminal. A lady sitting by the windows is talking to herself. Then laughing. Then pausing. Then laughing again. I look around to see if anyone else is seeing this. It continues for a couple of minutes. I think to myself "My God, that woman is crazy and I'm about to get on a flight with her." Then she brushed her hair back and I saw my first ever cell phone earpiece/microphone. Ha.
 
2009-11-14 01:10:45 AM
ArgusRun: Anyone familiar with the new Jet Blue terminal at JFK? I've got a trip up to Buffalo in a few weeks. Do the bars serve drinks in the morning?
Most of them will be closed, but there's one (I forget the name, blue something or other) that has a breakfast menu and yeah they'll serve up a beer or bloody mary / redeye if you ask politely.
 
2009-11-14 01:10:56 AM
While the airlines aren't technically public transportation due to their being private (if publicly traded) companies, with as much bailout money as they receive about every 5 years, they nearly qualify as public transportation.

And don't even get me started on the TSA, an actual government entity, letting you go through the short security line if you ponied up for a first class ticket. What the hell is up with that?
 
2009-11-14 01:11:10 AM
Oh, yea - forgot to say, the longest and worst were Eugene Oregon and Salt Lake City, both 737's with a third the passengers almost twice as long to load and launch.
 
2009-11-14 01:12:03 AM
Yugoboy: You spend 3 days in Hawai'i wearing the same clothes as your bags slowly catch up to where you are, and you'll never check a bag again...

your superiority complex will not keep me from never checking my bags again... your crappy attitude will only get you more ignored as I sink deeper into the music on my mp3 player... it's my flight too, asshole


I've only had a bag get temporarily lost once in all the years that I've flown, rough guess is at least 60 flights. The bag got delivered late that evening by a rather handsome young man. Of course, being in the continental U.S. probably made it easier to deliver the bag.
 
2009-11-14 01:13:14 AM
fotbr: Basically, pick flights at inconvenient times, and start somewhere other than a jam-packed airport. You end up with a flight made up of mostly business travelers who know how to pack, know the security shenanigans, and know how to behave.

My parents live in the middle of nowhere. Unfortunately that means a mandatory layover before reaching their regional airport. The awesome part is flying out of there. I've never waited in a security line even though there is only one baggage scanner. I haven't even waited behind one other person. There are 6 gates, only 3 ever seem to be in use, and the planes are small but never full. There's no stampede when boarding starts, no struggle for the overhead space, and it only takes a total of 5 minutes for everyone to board.
 
2009-11-14 01:15:05 AM
Bla bla bla bla blaaaa

You are freaking FLYING! Through the air! In a giant metal bird! You can get to China in less than 12 hours, instead of 2 years (with a very good chance of dying along the way).
Consider how freaking AMAZING that is next time you consider biatching.

/I'll bet you eat at McDonald's three times a week as you complain about airline food too.
 
2009-11-14 01:16:18 AM
ratholeradio.org
 
2009-11-14 01:16:46 AM
0Icky0: Bla bla bla bla blaaaa

You are freaking FLYING! Through the air! In a giant metal bird! You can get to China in less than 12 hours, instead of 2 years (with a very good chance of dying along the way).
Consider how freaking AMAZING that is next time you consider biatching.

/I'll bet you eat at McDonald's three times a week as you complain about airline food too.


You know what else is amazing? The wheel! Look at that thing! It's round and makes transporting stuff so much easier than it used to be.

/it's 2009
 
2009-11-14 01:18:24 AM
My first Blue-Tooth guy (in retrospect, he was likely a lawyer, given the building and the elevator-lobby that we both stood in) has to have been..what? 99 or 01'.

His loud rants at the tiles assured me, that I was standing next to a mad-man.

A superbly dressed mad-man.
 
2009-11-14 01:18:58 AM
If you're going to carry on your bag, please do this simple test:

Pick up your bag and lift it over your head...IF YOU CANNOT DO THIS, CHECK YOUR BAG.

I can't even begin to count the number of times I've had to skycap someone else's luggage for them because their bags were too heavy for them to lift.
 
2009-11-14 01:19:00 AM
fotbr: The nice thing about starting in KC is that you can do the electronic check-in, get your boarding pass, and clear security in 10 minutes if you've got your stuff together. Under 5 minutes if you've got an early morning flight. Which means you can make an international transfer in Detroit with a 45 minute layover, with plenty of time to spare. Hell, you can unload a 747, clear passport control and customs, AND cross the entire Schiphol airport to make another connection in under an hour.

Air Canada in Montreal lets you put your own luggage tags on. That shait is WEIRD.

/6:00am flights may suck, but goddamn is the airport empty.
//Flys too often. Also got to take a charter flight from Charlottetown "international". Packed a brick of lead in my stowed luggage by accident, which was the first time I screwed up anything in about 2 years
///My checked baggage was the same bag as the rest of my team used as carry on. I wanted to smack them for having it be too big to fit in the little sizing thingie.
 
2009-11-14 01:19:27 AM
I think my greatest pet peeve is the people who pack all sorts of shiat they know they can't carry on the plane, and then pretend they didn't know at security.

I can handle a few extra minutes getting on/off the plane, but holding up the security line because you're a dumbshiat really fires me up.

I actually heard a woman and her husband discussing all through the line that they just knew they'd get stopped (with full water bottles, big shampoo, etc), then they played innocent and dumb when the agent stopped them. It took forever for them to get everything out.
 
2009-11-14 01:21:04 AM
Some jackhole wanted to start a fight with me regarding overhead storage space once.

Apparently I asked - politely - a woman two rows down if I could move her bag to a smaller space where it would fit so I could stow my larger bag. She said "yes" on the grounds that I be careful, which I complied with, treating the bag as if it contained an actual baby. Moments later the man I wound up sitting next to accused me of taking the space meant for him. You know, the space I did all the "work" clearing, and now he wanted it.

He then spent about five minutes asking if I'd like anything else of his (e.g., his blanket, complimentary beverage, etc.) I smiled and politely told him that it was a redeye and I wasn't really in the mood to start shiat at 12:30am on a Thursday. I think that just made him angrier.

(And that space WAS mine. If he wanted it that badly he could've asked the bag's owner his damn self.)
 
2009-11-14 01:24:58 AM
xsarien: He then spent about five minutes asking if I'd like anything else of his (e.g., his blanket, complimentary beverage, etc.) I smiled and politely told him that it was a redeye and I wasn't really in the mood to start shiat at 12:30am on a Thursday. I think that just made him angrier.


That's what headphones are for. The minute I sit down I put on my noise-canceling, around-the-ear headphones and tune the world out, taking them off momentarily while the plane takes off. Unless I'm next to a hot girl, I put the headphones on immediately and broadcast a "don't f*cking talk to me" message loud-and-clear for the duration of the flight.
 
2009-11-14 01:25:59 AM
At least airlines don't charge for gate-checked bags. Otherwise the rush to get on board would be pretty brutal.

I do really wish they would better enforce the rules for carry-on size though. I hate it when somebody takes up half the overhead bin because they had to put their bag in sideways, and that causes me to have to put my bag five rows back.
 
2009-11-14 01:25:59 AM
I fly so often I rarely carry any bags at all. Nothing freaks security and customs like an international passenger without so much as a newspaper.
 
2009-11-14 01:27:42 AM
I have a slight touch of claustrophobia. I don't mind boarding (because I always pay extra to be able to board first) and I don't mind being in flight. But I hate deboarding the plane. I often feel like punching people in the head and walking over them.

I have never done that, but my anxiety gets really high.

A few weeks ago I was in an elevator. I was the first person in. Then 4 more people walked in, no problem. Then somebody held the door open and six more people walked in. Now I began to panic. I was closed in and confined to one corner of the elevator. What if it stopped between floors? I would have only these few square feet of space to survive in while we hoped we would be rescued. I would absolutely freak out. I might have resorted to killing people in the elevator to make sure they didn't steal my air. That's how freaked out I would get.
 
2009-11-14 01:31:49 AM
I think the worst passenger experience I had was flying to India a few years ago. The flight there was bad enough because it was like 2 weeks after the London tube bombings and they were paranoid about brown people or something and wouldn't let anybody off the plane during the refueling stop in London. The flight back was worse because while they let us off the plane in London, when it came time to re-board, the idiot chavs all dashed for the gate even though they announced over and over again that the people who were continuing on from Delhi were supposed to board first. My sister and I had to fight our way through a crowd of chavs to get in line (I swear, dumbass Brits are worse than American dumbasses), and then when one of them overheard me mumbling to my sister about people not being able to follow directions, they interrupted and blamed it on it being an Indian flight (even though it was all of the chav hicks that weren't following directions, like the person who overheard me).

/Anyway, that's my dumb passenger rant for the day.
 
2009-11-14 01:39:10 AM
Hicks? maybe non fliers or dicks in general...some of my worst experiences were at JFK.

/flies all over the country
 
2009-11-14 01:39:41 AM
I never check a bag unless I'm staying for over five days. It's not so bad.
-Try not to use one of those carry-ons that are advertised as the maximum allowed size. They rarely fit into the overheads. Traveling was much easier when I bought a smaller, hard case from Brookstone. It was a bit pricey, but it's been all over the country and never caused me any problems.
-Separate your liquids into a quart plastic bag before you get to the airport- one bag and no containers over 3 oz.
-Take off your shoes, coat and belt as soon as they check your boarding pass. If you must wear jewelry or a watch, take it off in the security line and place it in your coat pocket or an easy access spot in your carry-on.
-Keep you laptop and baggie of liquids in an easily accessible spot in your carry-on when you go through security.
-Your laptop needs to be in its own bin. Make sure to grab enough bins when you go through the line. You will need at least two for your laptop and shoes.
-Push your own bags through the belt.
-If you have liquid medicine that you need to keep with you, you need to have the proper documents with you.
-No, you cannot keep your starbucks, 7 oz. bottle of aftershave, and pocket knife with you. Yes, you need to take off your shoes. It sucks and we all know it. Stop complaining.
 
2009-11-14 01:51:38 AM
Oh this is great...

We fly a good deal for racing.

Our F1 cars and gear get transported, and we fly to the tracks.

So Girl Wonder and I are flying out of San Francisco to Wisconsin so we can race at Road America. A friend of mine has told me to stick this on the back of my license (new window)...

We run into the most bull-dyke looking TSA guard right off the bat you can imagine. She's literally Pvt. Vasquez from Aliens. She grabs my license, looks it over... flips it over, sees what is on the back... looks at me and just sighs and waives me on.

She looks at Girl Wonder behind me (new window), looks her up and down and says, "You got one of those stickers on your license as well?" yet somehow it came out like... "I want to wear you like a wristwatch."

It was all I could do not to laugh my ass off, biting my lip. Girl Wonder shot me a nasty look and said, "No..." Vasquez looks dejected and sends us on our merry way.

I got my ass kicked later.
 
2009-11-14 01:51:51 AM
i1002.photobucket.com

I just hate it when I get stuck next to a hick on a plane and they order the possum as their in-flight meal.
 
2009-11-14 01:56:17 AM
archeochick: I never check a bag unless I'm staying for over five days. It's not so bad.
-Try not to use one of those carry-ons that are advertised as the maximum allowed size. They rarely fit into the overheads. Traveling was much easier when I bought a smaller, hard case from Brookstone. It was a bit pricey, but it's been all over the country and never caused me any problems.


I try to avoid checking bags, period. I have a soft sided Tumi bag with no wheels but that has convertible backpack straps that make it easier if you have to make a mad dash from one side of an airport to the other. It was definitely pricey but I like it because it's not too big to be unwieldy, it looks and is shaped like a normal standard carry-on, but because it's soft sided, if I have to jam something bigger in it it has some give that more structured bags don't have.

The thing that always gets me with airport security is that on more than one occasion I've gone through screening with water still in my stainless steel water bottle because I forgot to drink it before getting in line, but because screeners can't see inside it, I've never been questioned. When I traveled with a see-through Nalgene bottle, they'd always double check to make sure it was empty before letting me through.
 
2009-11-14 01:56:52 AM
EighthundredmillionthFarker: Gotta give credit to the people who stand up as soon as they can when the plane lands and think they can pull down their 2 oversized carryons, then get ahead of 27 rows of passengers and be the first ones out... credit for being the biggest douchebags, of course.

Yeah, well, when I have to cross three terminals in 10 minutes to catch my connecting flight because we were late to land, I'm going to fight for every inch. You'll get over it.
 
2009-11-14 02:01:21 AM
Mentat: EighthundredmillionthFarker: Gotta give credit to the people who stand up as soon as they can when the plane lands and think they can pull down their 2 oversized carryons, then get ahead of 27 rows of passengers and be the first ones out... credit for being the biggest douchebags, of course.

Yeah, well, when I have to cross three terminals in 10 minutes to catch my connecting flight because we were late to land, I'm going to fight for every inch. You'll get over it.


I'll have my bags down, standing in the aisle, waiting my turn, and, best of all, blocking your dumb ass.

You'll get over it.
 
2009-11-14 02:05:05 AM
T.M.S.: I fly so often I rarely carry any bags at all. Nothing freaks security and customs like an international passenger without so much as a newspaper.

That is unusual. How does one pull that off?
 
2009-11-14 02:06:28 AM
Virgin is dumb for letting people with no carry on bags go first. They should let the people with no carry on bags go last, then let them off first.
 
2009-11-14 02:07:16 AM
i34.tinypic.com
 
2009-11-14 02:09:02 AM
EighthundredmillionthFarker: I'll have my bags down, standing in the aisle, waiting my turn, and, best of all, blocking your dumb ass.

Isn't that behavior exactly what you're biatching about?
 
2009-11-14 02:11:53 AM
Mentat: EighthundredmillionthFarker: I'll have my bags down, standing in the aisle, waiting my turn, and, best of all, blocking your dumb ass.

Isn't that behavior exactly what you're biatching about?


No, because I wait until the aisle in front of me are cleared. Except, of course, for people waiting for friends/family in further aisles.
 
2009-11-14 02:14:06 AM
Mentat: The greatest reform to come out of 9/11 was keeping non-passengers behind the security gates. My Boobies 9/11 flight was like a vacation in the terminal.

One thing I wish they'd never gone back to after 9/11: Letting dumbass people drop passengers off at the curb. I flew out of LAX about 2 weeks after 9/11, and they (rather sensibly) were not allowing private vehicles on airport property. You parked in one of the remote lots and the shuttles took you to the terminal. It actually cut the time getting to the gates; because LAX is generally choked with crazy people, crazy taxi drivers, crazy shuttle drivers, crazy bus drivers, all swerving and lunging in and out of the loading zones.

There was no reason to go back to the old method, either. They did it for about six or 8 months, IIRC, and the only ones complaining were the dummies who can't manage to get to the airport on time anyway.
 
Ral
2009-11-14 02:14:32 AM
Crosshair: My boss likes to ship his luggage via UPS rather than check it with the airline. Then just take a small carry on with him on the plane.

This is starting to catch on. I know people who ship their luggage ahead of them to their destination whenever possible. Hotels will usually be accommodating about it.

And if you fly United, you can have your luggage FedEx'ed right from the airport.
 
2009-11-14 02:14:53 AM
EighthundredmillionthFarker: Mentat: EighthundredmillionthFarker: I'll have my bags down, standing in the aisle, waiting my turn, and, best of all, blocking your dumb ass.

Isn't that behavior exactly what you're biatching about?

No, because I wait until the aisle in front of me are cleared. Except, of course, for people waiting for friends/family in further aisles.


Well, you just keep raging against the machine big guy. You haven't made me miss a connection yet, so you might want to work on your technique.
 
2009-11-14 02:15:58 AM
moike: She looks at Girl Wonder behind me (new window), looks her up and down and says, "You got one of those stickers on your license as well?" yet somehow it came out like... "I want to wear you like a wristwatch."

Girl wonder has absolutely fantastic knockers, you attention whore.
 
2009-11-14 02:16:58 AM
Mentat: EighthundredmillionthFarker: Mentat: EighthundredmillionthFarker: I'll have my bags down, standing in the aisle, waiting my turn, and, best of all, blocking your dumb ass.

Isn't that behavior exactly what you're biatching about?

No, because I wait until the aisle in front of me are cleared. Except, of course, for people waiting for friends/family in further aisles.

Well, you just keep raging against the machine big guy. You haven't made me miss a connection yet, so you might want to work on your technique.


So what's your method, then? Shoving and pushing your way out of the plane because your business is more important than everyone else's?? Stay classy.
 
2009-11-14 02:20:36 AM
lockers: Girl wonder has absolutely fantastic knockers, you attention whore.

Keep in mind she may have pancake nipples though.
 
2009-11-14 02:21:19 AM
EighthundredmillionthFarker: So what's your method, then? Shoving and pushing your way out of the plane because your business is more important than everyone else's?? Stay classy.

Oh Jesus, lighten up Francis. I don't actually knock anybody out of the way, there isn't even enough room on the plane to do that. But I also don't waste time either. I choose my seat wisely and I pack lightly so I'm the first one out anyway.

And yes, my time is more valuable.
 
2009-11-14 02:28:44 AM
Side request: please don't take the "expert traveler" lane at the security checkpoint if you are not, in fact, an expert traveler.
 
2009-11-14 02:33:54 AM
drewkumo: bobbarker02: People who live in red, flyover states are stupid and useless, and the world would be better off without them.

Yeah, let the chinese grow all of our food.

/flys with a backpack, nothing else.


They'll be responsible for all of our innovation in technical sectors by the time we're done fixing health care by not actually fixing it, may as well have them take care of the food as well. China will be to America as America is today to France. (Not Europe, just one part of it.) Americans just don't understand that yet.
 
2009-11-14 02:40:41 AM
FTA: "Business travelers never want to check a bag; they want to get off the plane and go," said Seth Miller

wow, so it isn't just poor whites destroying out society. subby and the modmins must be so disappointed.
 
2009-11-14 02:44:30 AM
out our

/Maker's Mark
 
2009-11-14 02:47:43 AM
Mentat: EighthundredmillionthFarker: Gotta give credit to the people who stand up as soon as they can when the plane lands and think they can pull down their 2 oversized carryons, then get ahead of 27 rows of passengers and be the first ones out... credit for being the biggest douchebags, of course.

Yeah, well, when I have to cross three terminals in 10 minutes to catch my connecting flight because we were late to land, I'm going to fight for every inch. You'll get over it.


If the flight is late, let the flight attendant know you have a connection about 30-45 min before the plane lands and try to remind if they walk by when the plane enters descent and they collect trash. On late flights, they'll usually make an announcement and let passengers with connections off first.
 
2009-11-14 02:59:09 AM
drewkumo: bobbarker02: People who live in red, flyover states are stupid and useless, and the world would be better off without them.

Yeah, let the chinese grow all of our food.

/flys with a backpack, nothing else.


as do i
 
2009-11-14 03:01:01 AM
MPOM: They'll be responsible for all of our innovation in technical sectors by the time we're done fixing health care by not actually fixing it, may as well have them take care of the food as well. China will be to America as America is today to France. (Not Europe, just one part of it.) Americans just don't understand that yet.

That comparison just isn't true, America has the most sophisticated military in the world. Plus we have 10 Nimitz class aircraft carriers, no other nation even has 1 carrier that size. We will still be powerful enough militarily that China can't throw its weight around.

As if healthcare reform is the real reason that this is occurring. You're telling me that you don't see a pattern? The US was an agricultural nation, then an industrial, now we are largely technological/medical/innovative. Aside from the military/industrial complex our medical system is probably the largest industry. Hell, it might even be bigger than military industry.

There's no way we could produce like China does and maintain an "American" standard of living. Its not possible, for the same reason many countries couldn't compete with us. We worked longer hours than most of Europe for decades, and we still do.

Just an anecdote, a Scottish guy came to my town as part of an exchange program. We were sitting outside having a drink, and he asked about the noise downtown. I told him it was a glass plant. He asked me when it shut down.

There is just a cultural difference. The Chinese work even longer, for less money than we do.

So what do you suggest we invest in if its not healthcare?
 
2009-11-14 03:12:14 AM
LAX
The big airport with the most clueless travelers.
Superjumbo dufflebags and gazillions of people trying to take water/juice through security.
 
2009-11-14 03:21:30 AM
i really don't understand.. its so easy. pack 2 pairs of jeans, a few shirts, toiletries in a clear bag (small ones). one suit bag (foldover).. connect them together and you have a bag small enough to simply fit under the seat in front of you. if you want to get really froggy bring your laptop.

its just too easy.
 
2009-11-14 03:23:09 AM
I've been on 7 flights in the past week and they all went pretty smoothly due to my decision to just have one small carry-on bag. It's a soft-sided bag - more of a fancy gym bag than anything. I shove in under the seat in front of me and don't have to bother with the overhead bin nightmare.

I do have short stumpy legs though. It might not work for more long limbed flyers.

/I did mess up at one security screening. I forgot a bottle of water I had bought just before boarding a previous flight. Got the whole bag very carefully searched and lost my sample-size toothpaste for some reason, but no biggie.
 
2009-11-14 03:39:43 AM
Petit_Merdeux: Christ on a stick! If you're so important, fly on a private plane, get upgraded or STFU.

Modern air travel is the equivalent of the bus now. It sucks. Get used to it.


You're referring to the people who take 30 minutes to gather up their luggage while holding up 350 other people from getting off the plane, I'm sure.

Hey, there are other flights to catch and there are cigarettes to smoke, get the fark out of my way.

I was polite and didn't smoke anything while I sat next to your fat ass and your kid who wouldn't stop screaming the whole way to gramma's house. Sit the fark down while people who are ready to get off the plane de-plane.

/mostly kidding

I'm not kidding - not even remotely.
 
2009-11-14 04:47:34 AM
moike: She looks at Girl Wonder behind me (new window)

Oh my sweet lord.
 
2009-11-14 04:52:04 AM
God forbid people should actually be patient about it.
 
2009-11-14 04:59:19 AM
boarding schemes -- window seats first, back to front, zones -- all seem to work equally poorly. Oddly, "cattle call" boarding seems to be the most efficient, he said.

Reading that made me sad, I always thought "window seats first, back to front" would be a dream.
 
2009-11-14 05:21:42 AM
What I can't stand: SIT DOWN. Jesus H Christ, people. The plane just reached the terminal, why does every single person in every single row need to stand up at the same time and hover over me. Standing there under the overhead with your head all crooked and hunched over just dying to get off that plane.

Yeah, it was a long crappy flight, I can't wait to get off the damn plane either, but standing up and waiting for the 24 rows in front of you deplane is retarded. Sit the fark down and read your book while the plane unloads. They won't forget about you.


Same goes for boarding. I had to keep telling my mom to sit the hell down because she wanted to GET IN LINE to get on the plane. I had to assure here repeatedly that we would not somehow lose our seats, nor would the plane sneak away without us noticing.


Also, if you're a 8' tall chimpanzee and you see my 5'4" stumpy self struggling to reach my bag that managed to shift to the back of the overhead and wedge itself behind your bag, offer some freaking help unless you enjoy my bellybutton in your face.

Ditto for crowding the carousel and watching some poor little old lady struggle to grab her bag through a sea of bodies. Is it so hard to grab a bag for someone when you see them chasing it?

I think a little common courtesy would go a LONG way in making flying more pleasant.



/and how many times do you pervs need to wand my bra. It's a farking bra, get over it already. I don't have a semiautomatic in there.
 
2009-11-14 05:43:33 AM
drewkumo: Just an anecdote, a Scottish guy came to my town as part of an exchange program. We were sitting outside having a drink, and he asked about the noise downtown. I told him it was a glass plant. He asked me when it shut down.

What does this mean?
 
2009-11-14 05:46:40 AM
"Wait until everyone's bags are stowed, then lay your coat on top."

This. God, that is so annoying when someone puts theirs in there, wastes tons of space, then freaks out if anyone tries to slip something under or even near it.
 
2009-11-14 05:48:10 AM
Geekyspice mentioned it but one of my favorite spectator sports is watching people stand up to line up even when it's clear that they can't all be sitting in the rows called. This is especially great on carriers with split classes and watching bozos try to board with the business class line. The seats are assigned people, they aren't going to give it away without you realizing it. Am I the only one who sees the last few moments of stretched legs as a gift?
 
2009-11-14 05:57:17 AM
FAIL. 'Normal' dumbshiats have been carrying on two suiters since the airlines started making baggage a revenue stream. The gate personnel rarely enforce the carryon size limit, and once the shiat is on the plane, it's stuff it in the bin anyway time. And, nobody does the 'under the seat' thing. Interestingly, this crap happens even on carriers who don't buttfark you with baggage charges.

/it's not news...
 
2009-11-14 06:07:35 AM
I've found flights are easier when I don't bring a carry on or if I do, just a small thin one like my lap top case. That way its under the seat in front of me (which is always an aisle) and the second that plane stops, I'm on my feet racing down the aisles and out many times before first class. Yeah, I'm the hick that won't let everyone deplane row by row.

Anyway - no carry on means less hassle planing and deplaning, less worry in the airport. Yeah, I'll pay the checked bag fee and I've never lost a bag. Did have a box of crappy Lipton tea stolen from one, but I think maybe the agent thought it might have been pot or something. I've never lost anything of value.
 
2009-11-14 06:25:04 AM
drewkumo: lockers: Girl wonder has absolutely fantastic knockers, you attention whore.

Keep in mind she may have pancake nipples though.


...............

If you look at that picture and say to yourself 'meh...I dunno, she might have pancake nipples'. YOU ARE TOTALLY GAY FOR THE PENIS. MOTHERFARKING FACT.

I mean, it's cool and all if you are. But stop talking about pictures of women like you have anything to contribute on the subject.
 
2009-11-14 06:53:41 AM
The row-by-row deplaning makes me nuts. Why do americans feel the need to do it? I think they think it's rude to not wait for the person in front of them. If you're ready to go, politely sidestep the rube in front of you and be on your way. It literally serializes de-planing to where the slowness of each person is taken into full account.

A simple announcement would solve this "If you think you will require additional time to gather your belongings as you de-plane, Please remain in your seat and allow those who are ready to exit before you." Sometimes that's all people need is that little nudge in the right direction.
 
2009-11-14 06:57:46 AM
geekyspice: .... unless you enjoy my bellybutton in your face.

Clicks profile.........yes, I think I would enjoy your bellybutton in my face. Pierced?

/Kidding
//Mostly
///Also very jealous of where you grew up.
 
2009-11-14 07:08:54 AM
I haven't had to fly in 13 years, thank the FSM. I have a feeling I'd be considered a "hick", but some of you farkers sound like real assholes. So I guess we all win by me not flying.
 
2009-11-14 07:13:26 AM
brigid_fitch:

Where did you score that photo of Peg and Bud Bundy in your profile? Nice!
 
2009-11-14 07:17:55 AM
HI-FYE: This goes for every person complaining in this thread about having to wait. I think it's funny that people are making you wait needlessly. The next time you are dealing with this at an airport, I want you to think of me laughing at you. Think of me laughing and pointing at you and mocking you. Have a nice day.

I like you
 
2009-11-14 07:34:53 AM
Yesterday I took a US Airways Express flight (on a half-empty plane, no baggage problems here) that should've taken less than hour, but took over 2 hours because they couldn't find a stewardess for the flight. So I'm not really getting a kick out of these replies, you see...
 
2009-11-14 07:34:56 AM
RembrandtQEinstein: HI-FYE: This goes for every person complaining in this thread about having to wait. I think it's funny that people are making you wait needlessly. The next time you are dealing with this at an airport, I want you to think of me laughing at you. Think of me laughing and pointing at you and mocking you. Have a nice day.

I like you


lol THIS

EighthundredmillionthFarker:
I'm always stuck behind people debating themselves about whether or not to buy the insurance. You have car insurance, moran.


Wow...you're stupid.
 
2009-11-14 07:36:49 AM
Earl of Chives: Flying hicks no longer bother me. I'm very Zen about these morans. Idiots are everywhere. EVERYWHERE. Including planes. They will impede my progress until the day I pass onto my Great Reward. Acceptance is the first step people.

to what? genocide?

/hopes the answer is yes
 
2009-11-14 07:48:09 AM
Yeah, well... I'm gonna go start my own airline, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the airline!
 
2009-11-14 07:54:03 AM
Hmm I flew cross-country twice this week, and I was pleasantly surprised at how smoothly things went generally.

Some rules to follow if you're about to start a job where you fly a lot:

1.) Buy a carry-on rollerbag that pilots use. That's travelpro. It's really expensive, but it's only one I've found that's tough enough. Also, make sure you buy one that is the right size for end insertion into the overhead compartment. If you fly a lot, you won't regret it. Make sure your laptop bag allows the computer to be easily removed and can be tightly secured to the rollerbag.

2.) Always check in and print your borading pass as early as humanly possible.

3.) Be nice to everyone and tip when you're supposed to.
 
2009-11-14 08:14:59 AM
Unless you were born into this world with the inherent knowledge of airline rules and procedures, to be updated immediately via your built-in FAA update utility, you should really STFU about people who are still learning the ropes -- you were a newbie once, too.
 
2009-11-14 08:19:07 AM
Monkeypillow: Yeah, well... I'm gonna go start my own airline, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the airline!

Will cocaine also be available on this airline?
 
2009-11-14 08:27:35 AM
TMBGfreak: Protesters in DC were the worse. Absolutely no Metro etiquette and were shocked when people were short with them because of it. If people asked me for directions I told the scared white people to get off at Anacostia.

LOL. I did that once too. There was a group of clueless looking white people milling around the Crystal City stop carrying anti-abortion posters. They asked me the best way to get to The Mall, and I advised them Yellow Line to L'Enfant, then the Green Line to the Anacostia station. I assume the gentleman with the poster featuring a picture of an aborted fetus and Obama was particularly popular with the locals.
 
2009-11-14 08:45:28 AM
Katie98_KT: I've decided that the next time I fly I'm going to do it in a full '50s getup- dress, heels, gloves, and a hat if I can find it. maybe a scarf over my head will do.

It doesn't count if you don't wear a girdle for that extra bit of discomfort.
 
2009-11-14 08:51:11 AM
mailnride: The row-by-row deplaning makes me nuts. Why do americans feel the need to do it? I think they think it's rude to not wait for the person in front of them. If you're ready to go, politely sidestep the rube in front of you and be on your way. It literally serializes de-planing to where the slowness of each person is taken into full account.

A simple announcement would solve this "If you think you will require additional time to gather your belongings as you de-plane, Please remain in your seat and allow those who are ready to exit before you." Sometimes that's all people need is that little nudge in the right direction.


Good idea, but the problem is Americans. People will just stand up and get their stuff anyways.

In my experience, it's the businessmen who are the worst at carrying on too much. They may not have to check any baggage at the gate, but they will take up an entire bin with their carry-on stuff alone.

I think my biggest peeve though is when the flight attendants put their crap in the bins. When each seat has their own spot in the bin, in theory it works well. But when you have them taking up one bin with all of their pre-flight stuff, and then a couple more with their own carry-on stuff, who can expect anything but fighting among the passengers to get their stuff in.

It seems like they could have a private are to put their junk that didn't take up space from paying passengers.
 
2009-11-14 08:56:41 AM
Earl of Chives: belowner: rolladuck: Somebody didn't get their rum and Dramamine this evening.

Absent my dramatics, my argument is still correct.

The airlines created this mess in an attempt to gather more fees. You don't get charged a baggage fee if they have to check a "carry on" at the gate.

All they have done is encourage people to bring as much as possible to the gate instead of checking it.

I'm going to disagree. Maybe it has gotten a tad worse since the fees launched, but not much. I expected the scenario you describe to happen, but I just haven't seen it. Granted I only fly once a week so maybe my sample size it too small, but people have always tried to bring all their junk on-board instead of checking because they once heard that the airline lost their second cousin's bag in 1978 and she lost some valuable t-shirts and some toothpaste so they must never check anything.


Since airlines started charging for checked baggage, I bring more on. I'm a musician, so I always bring my instrument as carry on, along with my laptop. After they started charging, I would bring my luggage bag on, especially if it's a small one that will fit in the overheads. It's allowed by all airlines and TSA, that your musical instrument doesn't count as a carry on. I just had to learn the system so the airline employees that don't know the allowances don't try to make me check my instrument. I don't have the money to be handing out 20 dollars for a bag, let alone six dollars for airline peanuts nowadays. I've even heard some airlines now charge for the pillows and blankets.
 
2009-11-14 09:24:00 AM
Complaining about infrequent flyers slowing things up completely misses the point. The problem is the government forcing a complicated security process that varies from airport to airport on the flying public that does nothing to actually enhance security.

/ Skilled and experienced passenger
// Hopes everyone that works for the TSA gets pig flu and a VD
 
2009-11-14 09:30:47 AM
I solved the checked baggage problem by duplicating my wardrobe and personal items on both ends of the flight I normally take. (it's between my 2 homes). Now I just fly with a laptop bag as carry-on.

Some airlines are charging $25 per bag each way and if I'm going someplace I don't already live, it's about the same price to just go to Target or K-mart when I land and buy some cheap casual stuff to wear while I'm there, then give it to a homeless guy on the way back out of town. Either way, it's money lost and I'd rather give it to some poor bastard down on his luck than to contribute to an airline CEO's next BMW.
 
2009-11-14 09:37:26 AM
bobbarker02: People who live in red, flyover states are stupid and useless, and the world would be better off without them.

Meh, when the inevitable collapse of our empire comes, I'm glad I live where the food is. Have fun eating corpses and the occasional rat as a treat.
 
2009-11-14 10:03:58 AM
I think it depends where you fly.

Unloading in Texas takes forever. Slow Texans.

Loading in NY takes a while since the NYers have to posture and carve out their territory while abusing the flight attendants.

Orlando, Ski areas, anywhere with kids. FOREVER both on and off.

I miss 9/11 when everybody had to start checking bags because they didn't want to slow things down. Of course, the stupid airlines had to recreate the mess with their stupid fees.

Glad I left the airline business for government. For those who think government is full of idiots, the airlines are run by the dumbest people on earth (second only to those who keep pouring money into them).
 
2009-11-14 10:22:24 AM
"and People Express introduced a generation of hicks to plane travel"

z.about.com

\how did the thread make it this far without this quote??????
 
2009-11-14 11:03:09 AM
Madbassist1: Eight

If you were thinking I was calling the previous poster a moran, than you're stupid, stupid. Otherwise you're just a prick.

So nice of your parents to let you subscribe to TF. Maybe if you keep your grades up, they'll let you have a Facebook.
 
2009-11-14 11:28:59 AM
shower_in_my_socks: That's what headphones are for. The minute I sit down I put on my noise-canceling, around-the-ear headphones and tune the world out, taking them off momentarily while the plane takes off. Unless I'm next to a hot girl, I put the headphones on immediately and broadcast a "don't f*cking talk to me" message loud-and-clear for the duration of the flight.

That seems to be the best plan. I completely lucked out on my last trans pacific flight and got to sit next to a non-smelly, articulate, and attractive female. It was glorious and almost made up for the conditions in steerage class.
 
2009-11-14 11:48:47 AM
markie_farkie: Pocket Ninja: and so on and so on and so on.

You forgot "puts carry-on shiat 9 rows behind where they're seated, and then on exiting the plane, expects everyone else to wait while they wade back through the humanity in the aisles to get their shiat instead of waiting until the entire plane empties out"


If someone puts a carry-on 9 rows behind it's because all the space near them is already gone. Trying to swim upstream to get it is crazy, though.

BackAssward: When I was doing the the Chicago-Vancouver trip every three weeks for 3 1/2 years, I thought the $250 dollars for a years worth of economy plus was well worth it. No kids up front, just frequent fliers. All business no muss. I felt bad for those behind rows 15-16.

The funniest is when someone at the rear tried to put his bags up front and the stewardess told him to take it back with him (happened on almost every flight).


That level of flight should have gotten you at least 2P status without paying.

phaseolus: Didja ever step up to the counter, and as you're checking in you notice that the a couple of novice travelers trying to check in right next to you are in tears because no one ever told them they needed to be at the airport a hell of a lot earlier than 20 minutes before their flight's scheduled departure time? For an international flight?

It's hilarious, isn't it?


The airline normally tells you how early to be! On the other hand, we once landed (weather delayed) 20 minutes before our international flight was due to take off from a different terminal. Made it--and because the airline thought we wouldn't they gave away our seats and so they had to find us new ones--in business class.

Egalitarian: Yugoboy: You spend 3 days in Hawai'i wearing the same clothes as your bags slowly catch up to where you are, and you'll never check a bag again...

your superiority complex will not keep me from never checking my bags again... your crappy attitude will only get you more ignored as I sink deeper into the music on my mp3 player... it's my flight too, asshole

I've only had a bag get temporarily lost once in all the years that I've flown, rough guess is at least 60 flights. The bag got delivered late that evening by a rather handsome young man. Of course, being in the continental U.S. probably made it easier to deliver the bag.


We've had all our checked luggage delivered two days late once. Nothing has ever been actually lost. I would guess about 80 flights.

T.M.S.: I fly so often I rarely carry any bags at all. Nothing freaks security and customs like an international passenger without so much as a newspaper.

Nothing?! We have enough stuff stashed with her relatives we could take an international trip carryon-only but I can't see doing it with nothing at all. If nothing else I want reading material for the 36 hours (round trip--the destination isn't English-speaking) of travel time.

archeochick: -If you have liquid medicine that you need to keep with you, you need to have the proper documents with you.

What documents are you referring to? I've carried liquid medicine several times in the era since the liquid insanity started. It's got it's prescription label on it, it's never been an issue. In fact these days I've realized the x-ray can't spot it (it's packed in individual doses, not a bottle) and I no longer bother to even tell them.
 
2009-11-14 11:56:54 AM
They're like the goddamn Joad family!!!
 
2009-11-14 11:58:19 AM
Yeah, it's the hick's fault. Not the airline for charging for any checked luggage. Not the airline for only staffing three of the ten security check lines. Not the airline for not being able to keep a scheduled flight to save their souls. Not the airline for imposing ridiculous "safety" standards that have you removing shoes, laptops, and toothpaste from your bag. Not the airline for hiring the most incompetent jackholes on the face of the Earth. Not the airline for cramming twice as many people on a plane to make up for lost revenue. Not the airline for providing overhead storage that is just slightly smaller than the average carry-on bag, forcing them to deal with last-minute checking. Not the airline for overselling every plane so that the first twenty minutes is a plea for 5-30 people to take a later flight and distribute food and travel coupons.

It's the hicks.
 
2009-11-14 12:18:37 PM
It sounds like a lot more airlines should do it as Ryan Air does: You are allowed one and only one piece of carry on luggage with set limits of size and weight (max 10kg), and it's measured and weighed at check in.
The last time I flew, they even had someone checking your bag a second time just before the security check, so that no one got any clever ideas about trying to sneak in something bigger.
 
2009-11-14 12:23:28 PM
KOOLmike: Just the hicks, eh, subracistmitter? Guess it's a good thing that porch monkeys, spics, and chinks who don't fly very often don't cause these same problems. Oh, and I know, "hick" is a term used to describe anyone who doesn't get out much, right? Just like the N-word is used to describe any ignorant person, right? Dickhead.

Last I knew, it was all the fault of 17 towelheads and one bearded limey with crap in his shoes. The 'liquid explosive' scare was purely hypothetical, just a control tactic.
 
2009-11-14 01:06:40 PM
Other than needing a bag that is specifically tailored for my carry-on needs (which is extra-hard with the extra-large laptop), I pretty much have the whole flying thing down. And I've flown on three trips in the past twelve years.

Think the Hick of the Trip award for this year's flights has to go to the couple at San Diego who wanted to walk on the plane with about seven shopping bags each, on top of having too much in carry-ons. But a close second goes to all the people who could have stopped it from happening in the first place at the airport, especially the bag checkers outside the airport who probably need to travel at least 30 miles south of the airport to get home....
 
2009-11-14 01:50:20 PM
Wouldn't it make more sense for airlines to charge for carry-ons instead of checked bags?
 
2009-11-14 01:53:15 PM
betona: I've often thought that if there was a planeload of me, it would empty out in just a few minutes. Because the instant it's my turn, I'm moving down the aisle and gone.

And I don't absolutely have to have my free Coke on a 35-minute flight.

muck4doo: Flights were always on time till the hicks discovered planes

And back then men wore suits and ties on planes, while ladies wore dresses, white gloves and hats. I remember I got a new suit as a kid to fly.


Goddamn, and I was just telling my wife I felt old. Thanks, man!
 
2009-11-14 03:18:34 PM
Contrabulous Flabtraption: Wouldn't it make more sense for airlines to charge for carry-ons instead of checked bags?


Totally. Make it so.
 
mno
2009-11-14 03:47:23 PM
They should outlaw all carryons except small (SMALL) purses or laptop bags. It would be safer, as well. Of course they'd have to outlaw losing checked luggage, as well.
And they should build planes with multiple doors on the outside, like a subway train.
 
2009-11-14 05:09:28 PM
People who bring the absolute biggest possible carryon make us wait.

Check it or take only seven pairs of shoes please.
 
2009-11-14 07:36:25 PM
Witnessed a lady with about 30 gold bracelets on her arm, had to remove them all, with some major difficulty. Also, why are the laptops removed from your laptop case at the security checkpoint? Doesn't the scanner have the ability to see through your bag?
 
2009-11-14 10:16:49 PM
Epsilon: I have a slight touch of claustrophobia. I don't mind boarding (because I always pay extra to be able to board first) and I don't mind being in flight. But I hate deboarding the plane. I often feel like punching people in the head and walking over them.

I have never done that, but my anxiety gets really high.

A few weeks ago I was in an elevator. I was the first person in. Then 4 more people walked in, no problem. Then somebody held the door open and six more people walked in. Now I began to panic. I was closed in and confined to one corner of the elevator. What if it stopped between floors? I would have only these few square feet of space to survive in while we hoped we would be rescued. I would absolutely freak out. I might have resorted to killing people in the elevator to make sure they didn't steal my air. That's how freaked out I would get.


Like we really have to care about you and you weak mind, Mr. eggshell skull. If you can't get a grip, you should just stay put in your mom's basement.
 
2009-11-14 10:23:21 PM
Mentat: EighthundredmillionthFarker: So what's your method, then? Shoving and pushing your way out of the plane because your business is more important than everyone else's?? Stay classy.

Oh Jesus, lighten up Francis. I don't actually knock anybody out of the way, there isn't even enough room on the plane to do that. But I also don't waste time either. I choose my seat wisely and I pack lightly so I'm the first one out anyway.

And yes, my time is more valuable.


My dick is more valuable than your time. Step aside, creampuff.
 
2009-11-14 10:24:59 PM
MPOM: drewkumo: bobbarker02: People who live in red, flyover states are stupid and useless, and the world would be better off without them.

Yeah, let the chinese grow all of our food.

/flys with a backpack, nothing else.

They'll be responsible for all of our innovation in technical sectors by the time we're done fixing health care by not actually fixing it, may as well have them take care of the food as well. China will be to America as America is today to France. (Not Europe, just one part of it.) Americans just don't understand that yet.


Clearly, you have never been to China.
 
2009-11-14 10:51:54 PM
Occam's Penis Pump: MPOM: drewkumo: bobbarker02: People who live in red, flyover states are stupid and useless, and the world would be better off without them.

Yeah, let the chinese grow all of our food.

/flys with a backpack, nothing else.

They'll be responsible for all of our innovation in technical sectors by the time we're done fixing health care by not actually fixing it, may as well have them take care of the food as well. China will be to America as America is today to France. (Not Europe, just one part of it.) Americans just don't understand that yet.

Clearly, you have never been to China.


"Only Nixon can go to China"
 
2009-11-14 11:47:57 PM
Thanks for reminding me that I have a Thanksgiving Eve flight, probably loaded with air morons who don't have a clue.

There will be the douche who thinks they can cram four bags in the overhead, the douche who thinks she's too good for security, the douche who thinks he can fart anonymously throughout the five hour flight, and with my luck--a screaming baby and whining dog.

God, I HATE flying. Douches.
 
2009-11-15 02:21:43 AM
drewkumo: Arnold T Pants: LOL at all the douchebags that think that are cool because they use public transportation often. Good work 'hicks'!

LOL at all the douchebags who think that private airlines are public transportation. Good work 'moran'!



LOL at the douchebag that doesn't understand that public services can be privately owned. Good work moran!
 
2009-11-16 08:36:33 AM
mud_shark: I'm not kidding - not even remotely.

Welcome to steerage class.

Now sit & wait while I peruse the skymall catalog for a portable, rechargeable gold-ball monogrammer.
 
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