Begun, the Bush Legacy war has.

Petey4335: Begun, the Bush Legacy war has.

Bit of a one-sided fight, don't you think? Even his own party hates him.

Pales in comparison.

I can't even blame Bush for the bailout mentality in this country. The time to get serious and fight the problem was 15-20 years ago. At this point, getting upset at trillion-dollar deficits is like getting upset at an amputation instead of the years of atrophy and intravenous drug use that made it necessary for continued survival.

Somebody is about to be fired from the Cato Institute.

As a Bush voter, I think the guy was a good President and far better for the country than Gore or Kerry would have been, but on fiscal issues and illegal immigration he was a severe disappointment.

Bad_Seed: Petey4335: Begun, the Bush Legacy war has.

Bit of a one-sided fight, don't you think? Even his own party hates him.

Now. At any point, all of these "fiscal conservatives" could have stopped him, and no one did.

Republicans are only fiscal conservatives when they are not in power.

he wasn't the biggest-government president in decades

True, then Obama passed him up in a day and a half.

What can't Obama do? He is awesome.

the biggest-government president in decades

Well, up until this new guy, that is...

I don't know whether to say I expected or did not expect this from CATO Institute.

Krack: As a Bush voter, I think the guy was a good President and far better for the country than Gore or Kerry would have been, but on fiscal issues and illegal immigration he was a severe disappointment.

I hope you have your brain amputated.

As bad as "W" was, and he should be biatch slapped for TARP, Prescription Drugs, Farking up the War(s), etc., Obama is exceeding all expectations on what I thought he would do to grow the government and make it more intrusive in the lives of the average American.

Krack: As a Bush voter, I think the guy was a good President and far better for the country than Gore or Kerry would have been, but on fiscal issues and illegal immigration he was a severe disappointment.

I feel like the entire discussion on Bush's legacy can begin and end with Iraq. We've been in bigger quagmires in our history and done less justifiable things, but weighing the necessity of the act against its consequences makes it, in my opinion, the biggest foreign policy mistake in our history. Not sure any legacy deserves to stand up to that.

That's it, I'm voting for Obama.

Krack: As a Bush voter, I think the guy was a good President..........

Well, we know what you've been smoking.

Krack: As a Bush voter, I think the guy was a good President

You should be ashamed of yourself.

beerrun: Krack: As a Bush voter, I think the guy was a good President..........

Well, we know what you've been smoking.

C'mon... look at the other choices... Gore and Kerry?!?!?? I mean, really...

Senescent Dawn: I can't even blame Bush for the bailout mentality in this country. The time to get serious and fight the problem was 15-20 years ago.

So you can blame Bush then.

Krack: As a Bush voter retard, I think the guy was a good President and far better for the country than Gore or Kerry would have been, but on fiscal issues and illegal immigration he was a severe disappointment.

FTFY

Esu: So you can blame Bush then.

The first Bush had the good sense to raise taxes. I think in many ways he was a more competent president than Reagan. I don't think that he'd have gone out of his way to fix our economic imbalances had he won a second term, but there's no reason to single him out either.

Senescent Dawn: I can't even blame Bush for the bailout mentality in this country. The time to get serious and fight the problem was 15-20 years ago. At this point, getting upset at trillion-dollar deficits is like getting upset at an amputation instead of the years of atrophy and intravenous drug use that made it necessary for continued survival.

First of all, doubling our national debt from $5 trillion in 2000 to $11 trillion in 2008 is unprecedented.

Second of all, Bush should have damn well been upset at his $6 deficit so he could have done something about it before the mess today.

Dems hate Bush, conservatives hate Bush. He just can't win.

I thought his father was a MUCH better president but that's just my opinion.

Ball Sack Obama: beerrun: Krack: As a Bush voter, I think the guy was a good President..........

Well, we know what you've been smoking.

C'mon... look at the other choices... Gore and Kerry?!?!?? I mean, really...

If only we had a draft, I bet you'd feel differently.

Its easy for anyone (me included) who didn't have to sacrifice ANYTHING for the wars to say, "eh, he wasn't that bad".


This country needs a draft more than anything in the world.

I'm astounded by how many conservatives, when confronted with these facts, reply with: "No, Republicans believe in limited government--it's the Democrats that want to expand government power."

sweetmelissa31: Krack: As a Bush voter, I think the guy was a good President

You should be ashamed of yourself.

I give him props for actually admitting it. Most of our resident righties here just pretend Like they never did.

how did George Bush get elected if no one voted for him?

How does Rush Limbaugh have such high ratings if everyone who quotes him says "I never listen to him"?

Will anyone - anywhere - ever admit to buying the Sarah Palin book?

These are the mysteries that shall plague mankind for all eternity

garyg: First of all, doubling our national debt from $5 trillion in 2000 to $11 trillion in 2008 is unprecedented.

Second of all, Bush should have damn well been upset at his $6 deficit so he could have done something about it before the mess today.

Bush made us significantly less capable of fighting this recession. I think he was by far the worst president we've had in modern times. But it obscures the problem to pretend that he *created* the disaster as opposed to allowing it to unfold under his nose.

As much as I hate the amount of money Obama has spent trying to fix the economy, I can't really blame him for it. It's like blaming the carpet cleaner for your dog crapping all over your carpet.

Emmanuel Goldstein has always been a traitor to IngSoc.

But have conservatives always been Orwellian doublethinkers for whom everything is good or bad depending on who does it?

Ball Sack Obama: beerrun: Krack: As a Bush voter, I think the guy was a good President..........

Well, we know what you've been smoking.

C'mon... look at the other choices... Gore and Kerry?!?!?? I mean, really...

Either one would likely have been better.

Hell, you would likely have been better.

Meh. When it comes to big government and crazy deficits Bush was a piker compared to Reagan.

sprawl15: As much as I hate the amount of money Obama has spent trying to fix the economy, I can't really blame him for it. It's like blaming the carpet cleaner for your dog crapping all over your carpet.

But that's not what's happening. The dog crapped on a small part of the carpet, but the carpet cleaner wants to shampoo the entire house, steam-vacuum it, and give it health insurance.

In these times of economic tribulations we can't afford to be spending like there's no tomorrow. That's what got Clinton in trouble.

I love how people criticize Obama over government spending, and just completely forget how much Bush spent. The $1.4 trillion dollar tax cut, the 2 wars, and TARP all just seem to fade from memory.

Who gives a shiat about what happened the past 8 years? Obama should have fixed all this shiat already and not spent a dime doing it. We all know that McCain would have done a lot better with unemployment after he let all the banks and insurance companies fail while halting unemployment benefits.

priestrape: how did George Bush get elected if no one voted for him?

How does Rush Limbaugh have such high ratings if everyone who quotes him says "I never listen to him"?

Will anyone - anywhere - ever admit to buying the Sarah Palin book?

These are the mysteries that shall plague mankind for all eternity

Those aren't mysteries at all. Allow me to provide a few answers.

I voted for Bush in both elections.

I prefer Hannity or Boortz to Limbaugh.

I usually read technical stuff or books on history and the like so I think I'll pass on the Palin book.

Krack: As a Bush voter, I think the guy was a good President and far better for the country than Gore or Kerry would have been, but on fiscal issues and illegal immigration he was a severe disappointment.

i c wut u did thar

President Bush should be doing penance in a monastery somewhere rather than embarrassing the free-market cause by pretending that he wasn't the biggest-government president in decades.

Damn CATO. Anyway, free market capitalism and big government are two wildly different things.

If Bush had paired the government down to him and the WhiteHouse janitor the market still would have crashed due to bad and lax regulation largely pushed by institutions like CATO.

And these idiots are supposed to be the intellects of the Republicans -- drawing false dichotomies like they're saying somehting smart.

priestrape: how did George Bush get elected if no one voted for him?

Heal's Law: "The standard is not perfection, it is the alternative."

MasterThief: priestrape: how did George Bush get elected if no one voted for him?

Heal's Law: "The standard is not perfection, it is the alternative."

oh bull. If his hobby war had went as planned the right would be minting nickles with this smirk on it with the obverse declaring what splendid fiscal conservative and free marketeer he was.

Lionel Mandrake: Remember: BUSH WAS BAD TOO!!1!

The rallying cry heard all around the Right...starting January 21, 2009.

"B...b...but Bush!" - The standard response the Left started bleating once the Kool-Aid wore off.

Ball Sack Obama: Lionel Mandrake: Remember: BUSH WAS BAD TOO!!1!

The rallying cry heard all around the Right...starting January 21, 2009.

"B...b...but Bush!" - The standard response the Left started bleating once the Kool-Aid wore off.

Familiar with rope a dope? As long as you guys leap to his defense every time some one mentions his name like that -- it's a win for Democrats.

You just remind people he's one of yours. And, frankly, you can keep him while CATO tries to paint him as 'one of those liberals'.

It's farking beautiful how well it works.

He hasn't been hung by the neck, yet?

It's too early to judge whether invading Iraq was the right thing or not.

Can we split the US into three new countries? The Left Coast can be for all of the big government people - the midwest can be for all of the small government people that want Jesus to dictate morals - and the East coast can be for the people that want fiscal conservatism along with limits on government intervention into things in our personal lives, like gay marriage, etc...

This would force me to leave my beloved Chicago, but it would be worth it, even if we do have to take Florida.

Lionel Mandrake: Remember: BUSH WAS BAD TOO!!1!

The rallying cry heard all around the Right...starting January 21, 2009.

Actually, it really started right around middle of September 2008, when it became apparent that the bailout was going to go through. That's also the same time that McCain went from "ahead in the polls" to "about to get crushed in a landslide." Conservatives hated the bailout; Republicans either under-estimated that or really believed the bailout was necessary to prevent an entire collapse of the system. Either way, it cost them in elections all over the country.

Don't forget the murders.

He was a very murderous president.