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(Abc.net.au)   A Massachusetts man is suing Bon Jovi, Time Warner and Major League Baseball for $400 billion because being stupid just doesn't pay enough   (abc.net.au) divider line 44
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2009-11-11 09:42:32 PM
WTF is a "amn"?
 
2009-11-11 09:45:52 PM
adult movie network?
 
2009-11-11 10:39:45 PM
Anyone here both songs and know what they sound like?
 
2009-11-11 10:40:20 PM
Err... HEAR...

Why yes I'm drinking.
 
2009-11-11 11:28:12 PM
I dunno. He is probably crazy. But, on the other hand, if he came up with a song and it was stolen, then he is entitled to compensation. Though it's a bit difficult to imagine that any single song could be worth 400 billion, let alone 4 billion. I guess this is what the courts are for.
 
2009-11-12 02:40:55 AM
Awwww I was hoping this was another case from the guy who submitted handwritten motions with a ridiculous lists of co-defendants and wanted just stupid huge sums of money. Remember him?
 
2009-11-12 02:42:40 AM

The guy is just a lawsuit cowboy, and in a rusty Corolla he rides.


Bon Jovi puts on a great live concert, for what it's worth.

 
2009-11-12 02:45:05 AM
UnspokenVoice: Err... HEAR...

Why yes I'm drinking.


The first step is admitting you have a problem.

The second step is locating the other bottle before you are too drunk to find it and it becomes a major problem.
 
2009-11-12 02:47:36 AM
skinink:
Bon Jovi puts on a great live concert, for what it's worth.


So do they cover the tunes of real bands, then?
 
2009-11-12 02:48:15 AM
you'd be stupid not to sue Bon Jovi
 
2009-11-12 02:58:59 AM
If, as he is said to have done in the article, the man has performed the song live on radio and tv, as well as given out copies, then provide them to the court and show that it is the same tune.

What...? He already did that and was ruled against?fark this guy.
 
2009-11-12 03:01:22 AM
TheOnion: Though it's a bit difficult to imagine that any single song could be worth 400 billion, let alone 4 billion.

The RIAA would disagree.
 
2009-11-12 03:05:09 AM
thats some rounding down there, Lou....400 billion (430 billion)
 
2009-11-12 03:09:03 AM
FTA: A Massachusetts man is pursuing a $400 billion ($430 billion) lawsuit...

Whaaa?
 
2009-11-12 03:09:46 AM
WhyteRaven74: Awwww I was hoping this was another case from the guy who submitted handwritten motions with a ridiculous lists of co-defendants and wanted just stupid huge sums of money. Remember him?

youbeenblinded.com

jonathan-lee-riches (new window)
 
2009-11-12 03:10:54 AM
eas81: jonathan-lee-riches (new window)

that's the crazy bastard alright
 
2009-11-12 03:12:17 AM
It's US$400b (AU$430b), Gordinho
 
2009-11-12 03:14:09 AM
PickinWhiskers: FTA: A Massachusetts man is pursuing a $400 billion ($430 billion) lawsuit...

Whaaa?


www.aintitcool.com

American Doll Hairs....Australian Doll Hairs.
 
2009-11-12 03:23:44 AM
OgreMagi: UnspokenVoice: Err... HEAR...

Why yes I'm drinking.

The first step is admitting you have a problem.

The second step is locating the other bottle before you are too drunk to find it and it becomes a major problem.


I hope step three is drinking both.
 
2009-11-12 03:41:37 AM
coto2.files.wordpress.com

I shall sue you for four... hundred... dollars!!!

AHEM.

Four... hundred... BILLION dollars!
 
Al!
2009-11-12 03:43:50 AM
If the songs are similar and he indeed wrote his first, I hope he wins at least his just compensation. The fact that a judge already ruled against him after hearing both songs (especially if he heard the Bon Jovi song!) points strongly to a future FARK headline reading something like, "Asshat that unsuccessfully sued Bon Jovi, Time Warner and MLB is successfully sued by Bon Jovi, Time Warner and MLB."
 
2009-11-12 03:47:28 AM
spidermann: If, as he is said to have done in the article, the man has performed the song live on radio and tv, as well as given out copies, then provide them to the court and show that it is the same tune.

What...? He already did that and was ruled against?fark this guy.


I don't think he's even saying it's the SAME tune, but that it was substantially similar. Since music is QUITE often derivative of other music, that being the nature of a "trend", that's not necessarily illegal.

Hell, anything auto-tuned sounds a lot like everything else auto-tuned, but you can't sue each other for sounding alike.
 
2009-11-12 03:53:29 AM
WhyteRaven74: Awwww I was hoping this was another case from the guy who submitted handwritten motions with a ridiculous lists of co-defendants and wanted just stupid huge sums of money. Remember him?

I figured it was going to be him, too.
 
2009-11-12 05:52:34 AM
You can hear both songs and see the original complaint on this UCLA law site: In Play: Samuel Steele v. Jon Bongiovi, et al.

Just another sad sad Red Sox fan.

Tuesday, September 02, 2008

Another site's cache had the guy's original non-greedy letter to Bon Jovi. It sounds like he blames TBS, not Bon Jovi, for the problems:

February letter to Bon Jovi's management, Vector. Do I sound like a crazy greedy fan?
Category: Music
My name is Bart Steele. I am a Boston based musician/songwriter/producer and leader of a band called "The Chelsea City Council." In 2004, I wrote and released the Red Sox baseball playoff anthem "Man I Really Love This Team", also released as "Man I Love This Team" for the playoffs in October 2004 and well known throughout Red Sox nation. In fact, my song was the June 2005 recipient of an award, given by the (real) Chelsea City Council, for writing "The Song That Broke the Curse of the Bambino".

As I mentioned to your secretary on the phone last Friday, I believe that my song was the original basis of the MLB/TBS baseball promo featuring Bon Jovi's song "I Love This Town." Because I have not granted permission for my song to be used or modified as MLB/TBS have done, nor received any written credit or royalties in connection with the promo campaign, I have requested that ASCAP (of which I am a member as well) freeze all royalties for Bon Jovi's MLB/TBS promo soundtrack, "I Love This Town" until this is all worked out. I have attached a copy of that letter to ASCAP for you.

I wrote that letter and I am writing this email in the hopes of avoiding all the legal mumbo jumbo because I am a big fan of Bon Jovi's and I believe that MLB/TBS were the primary offenders in this situation. Whether they (MLB/TBS) told Bon Jovi they owned my song or simply made a derivative work and presented it to them to record, I believe Bon Jovi is not the offender here.

I'm requesting some kind of meeting with Bon Jovi or Jack Rovner to show them how similar these two works are. On several occasions I let MLB know that I was re-recording the playoff anthem with specific lyrics for each town and team. My song even matches the 2 minute, 38 second MLB/TBS promo ad pretty closely (camera pans on Yawkey Way sign the second I mention 'Yawkey Way', etc.), and my song starts fade out at exactly 2:38!!! Their are countless other things that just cannot be by chance.

Anyways, I'm a big fan and this is not about money. This is me wanting to show Bon Jovi the countless other similarities and play them my tune lined up to the promo ad video. I'm sure they will understand why countless people have asked me recently if I sold my baseball song to MLB or Bon Jovi :(

This will go public at some point very soon, and I don't want the boys to look bad if they had no knowledge of my song previously or if they were unknowingly presented with lyrics or a similar derivative work by TBS and or MLB to record. Or this doesn't have to go public at all if we can work this out.

I'm just trying to avoid lawyers and bad pr for everybody. I guess it was the most expensive ad campaign in sports history, also the first time that MLB ever worked with TBS/FOX on an ad campaign, and ironically it was also the first time that TBS showed specific content for each individual town/market.

My lawyer wanted to be at this possible meeting, and I have said no so far. She also wants to file a cease and desist for performing "I Love This Town' in the upcoming tour and to stop the 'I Love This Town' contest in the next few weeks because they are all tied in to the promo campaign originally based on my song. This is the last thing I want her to do. In fact the contest is a great idea and I do love their version a lot. I am a single father and a good person...and a musician who got totally screwed out of payment for my work. I'm working hard toward my big break in the business, and like Bon Jovi, devote a lot of time and effort to raising money for non-profits through my music. If you want to find out more about me or read some recent newspaper articles my band website is:

www.myspace.com/chelseacitycouncil

I will be doing a small gig in NYC this weekend and would be happy to meet with Bon Jovi or any representative while I am in town. It is my hope that this can be resolved immediately so that Bon Jovi's tour will go on exactly as planned. If anyone wants to contact me, my cell is --.

Sincerely,
(huge fan and seriously depressed musician)
Bart Steele
 
2009-11-12 06:08:28 AM
notmtwain: Another site's cache had the guy's original non-greedy letter to Bon Jovi.

Wow, that's like the audio recording of Sole talking to El-P that he plays on Linda Tripp (the Sole diss song)

/Okay, I just wanted to mention that cause it's such a hilarious song
//I wanna be dowwwwwwn
///I love Company Flow
//This shiat is bananas!
/Linda Tripp (new window)
 
2009-11-12 07:35:35 AM
eas81

youbeenblinded.comwww.aceshowbiz.com

separated at birth?
 
2009-11-12 07:41:00 AM
In fairness to this gentleman, this is a sad reality of the entertainment world. All too often average Joes are ripped off by big money machines that can afford to not only steal the song, but can also easily afford to win associated cases and still profit off the song.

He very well may have a legitimate complaint, but it won't get anywhere. I feel sorry for people in this situation, whether or not this man is experiencing it.
 
2009-11-12 08:09:00 AM
I wrote a song: "Whoa-oh, Livin Over There.".... Give me my Billions or else!!!
 
2009-11-12 08:11:43 AM
JonnyG: In fairness to this gentleman, this is a sad reality of the entertainment world. All too often average Joes are ripped off by big money machines that can afford to not only steal the song, but can also easily afford to win associated cases and still profit off the song.

He very well may have a legitimate complaint, but it won't get anywhere. I feel sorry for people in this situation, whether or not this man is experiencing it.


Except that's not the situation. They don't sound anything alike other than having twangy guitars. Maybe Roy Acuff should sue both of them if that's enough for a case.
 
2009-11-12 08:15:48 AM
BON JOVI SUCKS.
 
2009-11-12 08:49:15 AM
Naming his band "Chelsea City Council" was his first mistake...
 
2009-11-12 08:52:22 AM
There's only one similarity between the two songs. The end of the musical phrase that includes the verbal phrase "I love this..." That's it. All the other lyrics are different, the harmonic progression isn't even close. Even if they bring in a hundred different musicians to listen, they would say the same thing.

I came into this article pissed off at Bon Jovi, left pissed at the plaintiff for doing nothing more than trying to make money off a bullshiat complaint. Besides, 400 billion?! If you wanted to be taken serious, you should have at least sued for a realistic amount of money!

Maybe going up to Bon Jovi will get his name out there, though, making him money on work he actually did. We will see.
 
2009-11-12 08:52:43 AM
I don't know what'd be better-to rule in his favor and award him $1, or to hold him in contempt for wasting the courts' time.
 
2009-11-12 09:07:58 AM
Pathman: eas81



separated at birth?


youbeenblinded.comidealeventmanage.com

Nah, Ghost Hunters just isn't paying him enough these days.
 
2009-11-12 10:38:59 AM
You know who else had a song that sounds very similar to one of Bon Jovi's? Billy Joel.

No, seriously. Listen to the beginning of All for Leyna, and then listen to the beginning of Runaway.

Though, I'm pretty sure Joel's game out first...

At any rate, there was no lawsuit and both songs are still available, as is. Know why? Probably because they're not ripping off of each other, and they're really not all that similar.

I'm sure this is the same case here, especially since it's already been rejected by one judge.
 
2009-11-12 10:42:02 AM
I think this guy's lawyer oughta be disbarred or censured or something. even if he had a legitimate case, asking for 400 billion dollars is kinda making a mockery of the legal system.

although if this man can take down Major League Baseball then godspeed.
 
2009-11-12 12:03:23 PM
Should have claimed Bon jovi was just a douch. He would have won the money hands down
 
2009-11-12 12:57:51 PM
youbeenblinded.com
Implied Oral Consent
 
2009-11-12 01:36:28 PM
It must have really hurt pulling a number that big out of his ass. He's clearly a moron and I hope he never has children; even if the songs were identical no one can take him seriously if he asks for a sum so large.
 
2009-11-12 02:40:15 PM
$400 billion sounds about right.
 
2009-11-12 02:57:50 PM
separated at birth?
youbeenblinded.comimg2.timeinc.net
 
2009-11-12 03:30:10 PM
I hope he gets every penny - f*cking RIAA / MPAA / DCMA c*nts need to see this, too.
 
R3
2009-11-12 03:50:36 PM
On a somewhat related note - anybody knows what happened with Satriani vs. Coldplay spat?
 
2009-11-13 09:19:11 AM
Whoa oh, hasn't got a prayer...no oh...hasn't got a prayer.

/Tommy and Gina say suck it!
 
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