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(Examiner)   Faced with a high school student wanting to bring her girlfriend to the prom, the principal does the only rational thing and threatens to cancel the prom (w/pic of what a high school lesbian might look like)   ( examiner.com) divider line
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2009-11-10 10:57:39 PM  
Twenty years ago we had a prom at an all boys college prep academy. There were these two girls who were 'entertainment bisexual' who went to a sister school and dated around in our year.

I remember the huge conspiracy to keep it all hush hush because the after party involved a hot tub and we all figured they would entertain. We were convinced that if the headmaster knew what was going on he would shut us down.

good times. Turned out he was a pedophile but didnt get caught till years later. So....not so good times?
 
2009-11-10 11:01:26 PM  
Great story bro!!!

/Needed more tounge!
 
2009-11-10 11:15:03 PM  
Now the principle says he will cancel the event for everyone if she is allowed to attend with her girlfriend.

The principle what? Gay-basher? I bet that looks good on a business card:

Dick Face
Principle Gay-basher.
 
2009-11-10 11:17:31 PM  
Someone needs to remind the principal that we're living in the 21st century.
 
2009-11-10 11:18:05 PM  
That's a man, baby!
 
2009-11-10 11:21:13 PM  
So don't go to prom. I knew gals that showed up with other gals at prom and no one gave a shiat. I don't think any of them announced themselves as lesbians or if they were. She wants it announced or something or is trying to prove a point, who knows? If she had just showed up with a ticket with her partner, I doubt anyone would've said shiat. If I had gone to my principal and asked him if I could show up to prom wearing a Dead Kennedys tee, he would've said no. If I just showed up with it, maybe I'd get through, maybe I wouldn't, whatever. Is she really set on going to prom or just playing it up? And besides that, who in the hell lets their kid get holes pierced in their face?
 
2009-11-10 11:25:18 PM  
So he blows something up into a huge media circus and potentially ruins prom for everyone else to stop something very minor (two girls going to prom together...welcome to the 21st Century buddy) from happening? Have to love the rationality there.
 
2009-11-10 11:26:32 PM  

Zabbadizzat: So don't go to prom. I knew gals that showed up with other gals at prom and no one gave a shiat. I don't think any of them announced themselves as lesbians or if they were. She wants it announced or something or is trying to prove a point, who knows? If she had just showed up with a ticket with her partner, I doubt anyone would've said shiat. If I had gone to my principal and asked him if I could show up to prom wearing a Dead Kennedys tee, he would've said no. If I just showed up with it, maybe I'd get through, maybe I wouldn't, whatever. Is she really set on going to prom or just playing it up? And besides that, who in the hell lets their kid get holes pierced in their face?


Except Big Brother is watching everything. When I taught high school (and therefore chaperoned proms and whatnot), it was completely different than my time as a student.

Kids today, when purchasing their tickets, have to give the name of their date, who, by the way, must be a student in the school district. Everyone shows his or her ID at the door.

So, chances are this girl went to buy tickets and they asked her who the +1 was.
 
2009-11-10 11:27:56 PM  

Zabbadizzat: So don't go to prom. I knew gals that showed up with other gals at prom and no one gave a shiat. I don't think any of them announced themselves as lesbians or if they were. She wants it announced or something or is trying to prove a point, who knows? If she had just showed up with a ticket with her partner, I doubt anyone would've said shiat. If I had gone to my principal and asked him if I could show up to prom wearing a Dead Kennedys tee, he would've said no. If I just showed up with it, maybe I'd get through, maybe I wouldn't, whatever. Is she really set on going to prom or just playing it up? And besides that, who in the hell lets their kid get holes pierced in their face?


You suck at life.
 
2009-11-10 11:29:43 PM  
People can't just show up to prom as singles, kellynoel? There weren't a lot of them, but I'm fairly sure it was allowed. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.
 
2009-11-10 11:30:54 PM  
Ok, Three Crooked Squirrels. Dang.
 
2009-11-10 11:32:01 PM  

Zabbadizzat: People can't just show up to prom as singles, kellynoel? There weren't a lot of them, but I'm fairly sure it was allowed. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.


Like a black guy showing up "single" and meeting his white girlfriend, also a "single", out back? Sure, I guess that is "allowed".
 
2009-11-10 11:33:42 PM  

Zabbadizzat: People can't just show up to prom as singles, kellynoel? There weren't a lot of them, but I'm fairly sure it was allowed. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.


They can, yes. But if her girlfriend goes to another school, the little lesbian in question has to buy her ticket and provide her name and student number.

Or if, god forbid, they don't want to be treated like second-class citizens and would like to attend the prom as a rite of passage and a mark of coupledom like every heterosexual couple since the dawn of time.
 
2009-11-10 11:36:56 PM  

Lorelle: Someone needs to remind the principal that we're living in the 21st century.


It's a city of less than 9000 people in northeast Alabama. Their decade zone is about 5 behind the rest of the country.
 
2009-11-10 11:37:51 PM  
Ok, I get it, Three Crooked Squirrels. I guess that is a bit of a pecker. That isn't right. I still don't think her parents should let her put holes in her face yet, but that's neither here nor there. As long as they can't do any rub dancing like the guy/girl pairings, then I don't see where it should be a problem.
 
2009-11-10 11:38:38 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Lorelle: Someone needs to remind the principal that we're living in the 21st century.

It's a city of less than 9000 people in northeast Alabama. Their decade zone is about 5 behind the rest of the country.


Don't they still have indentured servants down thur.
 
2009-11-10 11:43:57 PM  
Looks like I'm going stag again.
 
2009-11-10 11:45:46 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Lorelle: Someone needs to remind the principal that we're living in the 21st century.

It's a city of less than 9000 people in northeast Alabama. Their decade zone is about 5 behind the rest of the country.


I grew up in Tennessee and while reading this article, I said to myself, "Who cares about this stuff anymore?!" Then I saw "Alabama" in the article headline.

And my dad wonders why I make fun of those he calls "his kind"

/Bon Secour, AL farkers...look it up. There's a piece of swamp land there that will become my inheritance.
 
2009-11-10 11:50:08 PM  
But, I imagine a lot of black/white pairings, when that was frowned on, did have to buy tickets as singles and meet out back. Getting other people past their prejudices isn't gonna happen right off the bat.

Maybe easing into it is better than shoving it into their face? People react differently when you're confrontational. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's how folks tend to work.
 
2009-11-10 11:53:06 PM  

Zabbadizzat: But, I imagine a lot of black/white pairings, when that was frowned on, did have to buy tickets as singles and meet out back. Getting other people past their prejudices isn't gonna happen right off the bat.

Maybe easing into it is better than shoving it into their face? People react differently when you're confrontational. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's how folks tend to work.


The fact that it happened doesn't make it right. The fact that some people are prejudiced does not mean that other people should have to hide.

We all biatch about today's media, but it's good for one thing: shining a spotlight in the dark little corners of society.

Shine that farking spotlight and don't let these pieces of shiat get away with institutionalized prejudice and oppression.

You might not be saying that it's right or wrong, but you SHOULD be saying that it is WRONG. Because IT IS WRONG.
 
2009-11-10 11:55:29 PM  
Scottsboro High School here in north Alabama tried the same thing about two years ago, denying a lesbian couple the right to, not only attend their prom, but attend ANY school functions. ACLU won that easily in court.

/Very stupid of schools to act this way.
//Not only is there plenty of case law against this discrimination.
///But cash-strapped school systems don't need to waste money on this issue.
 
2009-11-11 12:00:49 AM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: Zabbadizzat: So don't go to prom. I knew gals that showed up with other gals at prom and no one gave a shiat. I don't think any of them announced themselves as lesbians or if they were. She wants it announced or something or is trying to prove a point, who knows? If she had just showed up with a ticket with her partner, I doubt anyone would've said shiat. If I had gone to my principal and asked him if I could show up to prom wearing a Dead Kennedys tee, he would've said no. If I just showed up with it, maybe I'd get through, maybe I wouldn't, whatever. Is she really set on going to prom or just playing it up? And besides that, who in the hell lets their kid get holes pierced in their face?

You suck at life.


Zabbadizzat doesn't suck at life. In fact, Even if you disagree 1000% with what he said there, he's still 500% cooler than 99% of the other farkwads out there. I'm being all serious-like now, you dig?
 
2009-11-11 12:05:45 AM  

John Paul Jones: Zabbadizzat doesn't suck at life. In fact, Even if you disagree 1000% with what he said there, he's still 500% cooler than 99% of the other farkwads out there. I'm being all serious-like now, you dig?


No. No, I do not dig.

These girls are in high school. We are supposed to be teaching them how to navigate in this world.

If you teach them that you just have to STFU and pretend that you're not who you are and then sneak around and be that, then THAT IS WHAT THEY WILL LEARN.

I would rather teach them that when something is wrong, you CHANGE IT. If it cannot be changed, by god, you FIGHT until enough people join you. If you cannot go with your girlfriend to prom, then by god, you do not go to prom and pretend not to be what you are.

Children learn what we teach them. I want to teach them to fight for justice and equity.
 
2009-11-11 12:06:11 AM  
I was trying to say that the way people react when confronted wasn't right or wrong, that's just nature. Not that this situation was or wasn't.

I don't care. If she wants to bring her gal to prom, more power to her. I don't think it should be a problem. But maybe the principal isn't as enlightened as I am. You can't expect to change things your way immediately was all I was saying.

At least I didn't say y'all suck at life. Jesus. Nevermind.
 
2009-11-11 12:07:40 AM  
I brought a girl to my senior prom. I dumped my boyfriend because he signed up for the Navy without telling me but I got ready like I was going. I told my mom I was picking him up and as I was driving through the town where the prom was I ran into my friend Kate who went to another high school. I said "Hey Kate wanna go to the Prom with me?" She said sure and jumped in the car wearing a tank top, cut offs, and birkenstocks. We had a blast and then drove up to Penn State and went to a house party. Dear god that was a fun night.

I don't think I would have had that much fun with a guy.

ANYWAY canceling the prom because someone is going to bring a date you don't like is farking retarded. The kids should pull a Footloose.
 
2009-11-11 12:08:56 AM  
Just for clarification: I didn't actually run into her with my car. She was waiting to cross the street while I was stopped at a red light.
 
2009-11-11 12:11:58 AM  

Zabbadizzat: At least I didn't say y'all suck at life. Jesus. Nevermind.


I didn't say that you suck at life either, but your approach to this problem does nothing to fix it. You can't just say "oh not everyone is as open-minded as me" and pretend that it's not a big deal. This is discrimination, dude. All of the great humanitarians in history would be disturbed by your lack of compassion. As a matter of fact, I think you're TOO open-minded. I'd almost rather have to deal with a retarded bigot who believes that girls who kiss girls are going to burn in hell than someone like you who just flat ass doesn't care enough to do the right thing.
 
2009-11-11 12:20:21 AM  

Zabbadizzat: But, I imagine a lot of black/white pairings, when that was frowned on, did have to buy tickets as singles and meet out back. Getting other people past their prejudices isn't gonna happen right off the bat.

Maybe easing into it is better than shoving it into their face? People react differently when you're confrontational. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's how folks tend to work.


Let me just toss out there that there are still segregated proms in the United States.

/didn't have to name his date when he went to senior prom
//one lesbian couple at the prom AFAIK
///nobody cared
 
2009-11-11 12:24:05 AM  
At my wife's prom, I had one of the most entertaining experiences ever. Cue up your "cool story, bro" pictures now.

See, my wife was friends with the only gay guy in her school. He was also her ex-boyfriend from freshman year. So this already ads a dimension of weirdness.

So he and his date from another school show up. Keep in mind this school is in the middle of nowhere, Michigan, and it's 1999. So he shows up, goes through the front, and goes to the lady taking pictures.

The look on this woman's face was just impossible not to laugh at. Confusion, panic, and even disgust flying across her face. She ended up placing them at the VERY edges of the frame, so that they were as far apart as they could be without having them in separate photos.

If that was all that happened, it'd be relevant but not all THAT funny. What was funny is that during the night, his date decided he wanted to go to an after prom party, where as Will wanted to hang out at the dance for a while longer. His date ended up leaving, so we had my wife's biatchy ex-boyfriend at our table, complaining about his boyfriend. Well, he RODE with his boyfriend, and now didn't have a ride.

So, my senior prom story is one that included driving my wife's gay ex-boyfriend home while he biatches and screams about his boyfriend who ditched him at the prom.
 
2009-11-11 12:24:18 AM  

Zabbadizzat: At least I didn't say y'all suck at life. Jesus. Nevermind.


I was the one that said you suck at life. And it was because of you're 15t pst. Rather pathetic that you claim not to care, but think people should shy away of the thoughts of a single man. Man up. Is it OK or not? And if it is OK, dismiss the principal, not the student.
 
2009-11-11 12:25:54 AM  
Did black and white dates just show up to prom and expect everyone to accept it? Probably not. Not a good idea at the time, could've got someone killed. Folks worked into it.

Should black and white dates be allowed at prom? Absolutely.

Should lesbians be allowed at prom? Absolutely.

Is lesbian couples going to the papers and getting the ACLU to get into people's faces who think it's wrong going to fix things? Probably not.

Going at it at an angle would be a better approach. That's all I mean.

Now get bent y'all hippies.
 
2009-11-11 12:26:19 AM  
I wore a kilt to my prom, full formal attire. I went and told the administration ahead of time, because after burning hundreds of dollars for the kilt, dinner, limo and hotel room I would be damned if they gave me any shiat at the door.farking prom. It's for the kids. If they want to bring a blow-up doll, let 'em.
 
2009-11-11 12:28:15 AM  

Shadowknight: At my wife's prom, I had one of the most entertaining experiences ever. Cue up your "cool story, bro" pictures now.

See, my wife was friends with the only gay guy in her school. He was also her ex-boyfriend from freshman year. So this already ads a dimension of weirdness.

So he and his date from another school show up. Keep in mind this school is in the middle of nowhere, Michigan, and it's 1999. So he shows up, goes through the front, and goes to the lady taking pictures.

The look on this woman's face was just impossible not to laugh at. Confusion, panic, and even disgust flying across her face. She ended up placing them at the VERY edges of the frame, so that they were as far apart as they could be without having them in separate photos.

If that was all that happened, it'd be relevant but not all THAT funny. What was funny is that during the night, his date decided he wanted to go to an after prom party, where as Will wanted to hang out at the dance for a while longer. His date ended up leaving, so we had my wife's biatchy ex-boyfriend at our table, complaining about his boyfriend. Well, he RODE with his boyfriend, and now didn't have a ride.

So, my senior prom story is one that included driving my wife's gay ex-boyfriend home while he biatches and screams about his boyfriend who ditched him at the prom.


I didn't go to my prom. The theme song was "The Thong Song"

I do not feel that I missed anything.
 
2009-11-11 12:28:31 AM  

Zabbadizzat: Did black and white dates just show up to prom and expect everyone to accept it? Probably not. Not a good idea at the time, could've got someone killed. Folks worked into it.

Should black and white dates be allowed at prom? Absolutely.

Should lesbians be allowed at prom? Absolutely.

Is lesbian couples going to the papers and getting the ACLU to get into people's faces who think it's wrong going to fix things? Probably not.

Going at it at an angle would be a better approach. That's all I mean.

Now get bent y'all hippies.


Are you trolling with this nonsense? Seriously?
 
2009-11-11 12:29:02 AM  
Zabbadizzat:

Thou doth protest too much
 
2009-11-11 12:29:36 AM  
Nevermind. I can see where my last post can be dissected. I should only deal in absolutes from now on.
 
2009-11-11 12:31:12 AM  
Yeah yeah yeah...the principal is a dick...


Now, time for the important stuff...

That's one bad hat...
 
2009-11-11 12:36:31 AM  

stinieroo: I didn't go to my prom. The theme song was "The Thong Song"

I do not feel that I missed anything.


I didn't go to mine either. My wife thought it was a big deal, as she was class VP and into all that crap.

It was fun, if for nothing else than to hear her now very flamboyant ex in the back of my car catting it up about his now future ex.
 
2009-11-11 12:37:10 AM  
I wasn't trying to kellynoel, but I can see how'd you'd think that. I guess I'm doing a very poor job of making the point I'm trying to make.

3{squirrels, get farked.
 
2009-11-11 12:40:58 AM  
kellynoel: We all biatch about today's media, but it's good for one thing: shining a spotlight in the dark little corners of society.

My favorite part of this is watching the racists and the homophobes scurry away from the light.

And then blame the light for being liberal and hating Jesus.
 
2009-11-11 12:41:50 AM  

Zabbadizzat: 3{squirrels, get farked.


Very eloquent. Seriously, if you aren't against lesbians going to the prom together, why shouldn't these lesbians go to the prom together?

I guess your basic argument is "all good things will come in time." I guess any person born after 1950 would agree the time has come.

And more to the point, this time only comes once in a person's life, so these girls can't wait "until their time". Why do you think they should have to?
 
2009-11-11 12:52:02 AM  
It was about as good as, "I suck at life", Three Crooked Squirrels. All I was trying to say was that it isn't going to happen overnight and it isn't because the people involved are evil, it's just not something they're used to. A slower approach might work better. But that's just my opinion.
 
2009-11-11 12:53:59 AM  
Zabbadizzat:

It's been too slow. It's about time. And for these girls, there is only one prom. fark the principal. Support the girls.

Stop being wishy-washy. Take a side.
 
2009-11-11 12:56:41 AM  

Zabbadizzat: A slower approach might work better. But that's just my opinion.


No. The only thing that gets these backwoods bigots out of the dark ages is to run the fark in, lights all aglo, and shame them into contemporary society.
 
2009-11-11 12:57:03 AM  
I'm not wishy washy on it, I know what I think. I haven't said anything different. Now keep trying to bash your ideas onto others and see how well it works.
 
2009-11-11 12:57:16 AM  
Umm, aglow.
 
2009-11-11 01:01:24 AM  

Zabbadizzat: I'm not wishy washy on it, I know what I think. I haven't said anything different. Now keep trying to bash your ideas onto others and see how well it works.


Ummmm . . . According to you (who has no problem with this), I am "trying to bash" your ideas onto others. Regardless, I'm going to bed. My last point is that if you think it is OK for these young ladies to go to the prom together, don't excuse the people who stand in their way.

/G'night.
 
2009-11-11 01:05:43 AM  
Didn't I see that chick carrying Frodo up the side of Mt Doom?
 
2009-11-11 02:01:40 AM  
I don't understand why this is such a big deal...
Let her go to the prom. Let her bring whom she wants. Why care about this sort of thing?

Oh? Alabama? That explains it...
 
2009-11-11 02:18:37 AM  
This is one couple they *know* won't get all teen pregnant.
 
2009-11-11 02:58:53 AM  

I was standing by my window
One cold December day
When I saw the hearse come rolling
For to carry my brother away

Will the circle be unbroken
Bye and bye, Lord, bye and bye
There's a better home a-waiting
In the sky, Lord, in the sky


Lord I told the undertaker
Undertaker please drive slow
For this body you are taking
Lord I hate to see him go

Will the circle be unbroken
Bye and bye, Lord, bye and bye
There's a better home a-waiting
In the sky, Lord, in the sky


I followed close behind him
Tried to hold up and be brave
But I could not hide my sorrow
When they laid him in the grave

Will the circle be unbroken
Bye and bye, Lord, bye and bye
There's a better home a-waiting
In the sky, Lord, in the sky


I went home, my home was empty
Now my brother he has gone
All my family were sitting crying
What a home so sad and alone

Will the circle be unbroken
Bye and bye, Lord, bye and bye
There's a better home a-waiting
In the sky, Lord, in the sky



You guys don't understand. You've already lost. The current generation doesn't care.

carryabigsticker.com

 
2009-11-11 03:26:30 AM  

kellynoel: Kids today, when purchasing their tickets, have to give the name of their date, who, by the way, must be a student in the school district. Everyone shows his or her ID at the door.


don't forget the metal detectors
 
2009-11-11 03:37:19 AM  
He also made Cynthia remove a sticker she was wearing that said, "I am a lesbian," telling her, "You don't have that much freedom of speech at school."

lol, like she needs a sticker
 
2009-11-11 03:47:22 AM  
This is an excellent object lesson for the 'it's better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission' principal.

/yes, it's on purpose
 
OKO
2009-11-11 05:45:18 AM  
Short sighted school.
 
2009-11-11 05:46:16 AM  
Danny Bonaduce reporting

image3.examiner.com
 
2009-11-11 05:47:48 AM  
Alabama is farked up. So are Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Arkansas, Tennessee, Mississippi, and a few others.

Go ahead and try to tell me again that the South isn't filled with a bunch of ignorant, Bible-thumping bigots.
 
2009-11-11 05:48:27 AM  
I support the teacher. The school is no situation for a young CHILD (yes, 17 is a child) to make statements she may regret when she is fully formed. I hope theyu manage to arrange a solution that brings a satisfactory conclusion to all involved. If you say 17, then why not 15, 9 etc. Her choice is not a human right or to do with fee speech eirth.
 
2009-11-11 05:49:02 AM  
OK i suck at spelling. ;)
 
2009-11-11 05:49:16 AM  
I don't get what the fuss is about. As my new favorite politician, George Hutchins, says:

"=> ONLY GAY MALE HOMOSEXUAL MISCONDUCT is Mentioned in the CHRISTIAN BIBLE, and the JEWISH TORAH, as a crime to be punished by DEATH.

=> FEMALE LESBIANS, GAY FEMALE HOMOSEXUALS, and BI-SEXUAL FEMALES, {Women who Love BOTH Men and other Females}, are NOT mentioned in the CHRISTIAN BIBLE, NOR The JEWISH TORAH as a crime, in any form."

If it were a guy trying to bring his boyfriend, maybe... but lesbians are fine, even religious right idiots think so.
 
2009-11-11 05:53:34 AM  

Epsilon: Alabama is farked up. So are Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Arkansas, Tennessee, Mississippi, and a few others.

Go ahead and try to tell me again that the South isn't filled with a bunch of ignorant, Bible-thumping bigots.


Like you would know. You hardly ever leave the house, IIRC. Why don't you try getting out and meeting a few people from those states. Maybe you'd see that life isn't only what's reported in the news.

/From Louisiana
//Went to my girlfriend's prom with her at a private prep school ten years ago. No one said a word.
 
2009-11-11 05:54:29 AM  
God hates that chick and her chickfriend.

/Not because they're gay, though.
//It's just that they're assholes.
/Stop jumping to conclusions!
 
2009-11-11 05:54:42 AM  
 
2009-11-11 05:54:49 AM  

Zabbadizzat: Nevermind. I can see where my last post can be dissected. I should only deal in absolutes from now on.


Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

Also, FTFA: "Now the principle says he will cancel the event for everyone if she is allowed to attend with her girlfriend." Nice proofreading there, Birmingham Gay Community Examiner.
 
2009-11-11 05:56:58 AM  

CMVenom: Only a Sith deals in absolutes.


Never deal in absolutes. Ever. Period.
 
2009-11-11 06:01:46 AM  
I skipped prom and saw Motel Hell at the drive-in theater*.

* Drive-in: noun 1. a motion-picture theater, refreshment stand, bank, or other public facility designed to accommodate patrons in their automobiles.
 
2009-11-11 06:02:38 AM  

NicoFinn: Like you would know. You hardly ever leave the house, IIRC. Why don't you try getting out and meeting a few people from those states. Maybe you'd see that life isn't only what's reported in the news.


I'm related to some of those people, farkface. My father's entire family is from Georgia. Most of them still live there and they're all bigoted assholes. Not even my dad can stand them anymore.

He and my mom visited his relatives recently and were abhorred at their racism and lack of general decorum. My mom swore she would never go back to Georgia.

Next question?
 
2009-11-11 06:06:40 AM  
image3.examiner.com

What a dude pretending to be a lesbian so he can better hit on chicks might look like.
 
2009-11-11 06:07:58 AM  

Epsilon: I'm related to some of those people, farkface.


You sound like a real tolerant person who knows how to love and accept your family no matter what they think. I see you've inherited the "asshole" trait you speak of.

Next question?

Yes. Could you do the South a favor and stay the hell out?
 
2009-11-11 06:10:03 AM  
What, you kidding me?

She loves this.
She participated in, and is the focus of, an ACLU case.
She gets to personally work with top-notch civil rights lawyers who are assigned TO her.

This is like having an internship on your resume BEFORE even entering college. No, wait, interns spend the majority of their time getting coffee. She's in on high-level strategy meetings.

Shiat, she's like a shoe-in for Harvard at that point, even if her GPA was something even the local community college would have frowned upon.
 
2009-11-11 06:12:22 AM  
School official
Principal
Board Member
Trustee

The jobs one gets when lacking the cranial capacity to be a Walmart greeter, or a jizz-mopper.

Can't we at least specify an IQ of 100 before an individual is even considered for these jobs? Preparing the next generation for the world is arguably one of the most important occupations in our society, yet we hand it over to blithering idiots.
 
2009-11-11 06:18:33 AM  

Zabbadizzat: Did black and white dates just show up to prom and expect everyone to accept it? Probably not. Not a good idea at the time, could've got someone killed. Folks worked into it.


You don't "work into it." You do it. If the school is concerned that the couple is at risk of harm from other students, then they are obligated to provide security to prevent that from happening.

It is a matter of human rights. It is not acceptable to deny anyone their fair and legal right on the grounds that others may use violent and illegal means against them.

In other words, you don't give in to the terrorists.
 
2009-11-11 06:23:02 AM  
Oznog:
What, you kidding me?

She loves this.
She participated in, and is the focus of, an ACLU case.
She gets to personally work with top-notch civil rights lawyers who are assigned TO her.

This is like having an internship on your resume BEFORE even entering college. No, wait, interns spend the majority of their time getting coffee. She's in on high-level strategy meetings.

Shiat, she's like a shoe-in for Harvard at that point, even if her GPA was something even the local community college would have frowned upon.


[Futurama newscasters pic]
HARVARD DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!

All she did was ask for their help so she could go to prom. It's not like she wrote their legal briefs for the case.

Day_Old_Dutchie:
Principal
...
The jobs one gets when lacking the cranial capacity to be a Walmart greeter, or a jizz-mopper.


Hey, my HS principal c. 1990 would not have pulled this crap. He was a great guy, and a compassionate one. It would have been him demanding the school board let gays attend the prom.
 
2009-11-11 06:29:40 AM  

Zabbadizzat: If I had gone to my principal and asked him if I could show up to prom wearing a Dead Kennedys tee, he would've said no. If I just showed up with it, maybe I'd get through, maybe I wouldn't, whatever. Is she really set on going to prom or just playing it up? And besides that, who in the hell lets their kid get holes pierced in their face?


why didn't you just tell your principal "look man, it's 2009 - i'm wearing whatever tee i want to prom.
 
2009-11-11 06:33:56 AM  

BesiktasBoy83: I support the teacher. The school is no situation for a young CHILD (yes, 17 is a child) to make statements she may regret when she is fully formed. I hope theyu manage to arrange a solution that brings a satisfactory conclusion to all involved. If you say 17, then why not 15, 9 etc. Her choice is not a human right or to do with fee speech eirth.


A 17 year old lesbian is just a little bit different to a 9 year old lesbian. "Child" my ass.
 
2009-11-11 06:40:16 AM  

Lorelle: Someone needs to remind the principal that we're living in the 21st century.


You seem to have forgotten that it's Alabama. They are a good 20 years behind the times (there are areas of Alabama that still think it's the 1950s).
 
2009-11-11 06:41:06 AM  
I brought a guy and a girl to my junior prom in 1998. We had a blast. One of my gay friends took his boyfriend to the same prom with no problems. It truly saddens me that some people are still so ignorant in 2009.
 
2009-11-11 06:42:34 AM  
Ah, So that's what Perez Hilton looked like in high school, neat.
 
2009-11-11 06:43:15 AM  
Needs more bean flicking

th00.deviantart.net

and donut bumping

edenfantasys.files.wordpress.com
 
2009-11-11 06:43:36 AM  

DazedCouple: Follow up

"We're going to screen dates anyway, but we do that for anybody. If her date passes, she comes."


Well, someone's quite optimistic about prom night...
 
2009-11-11 06:44:42 AM  

BesiktasBoy83: I support the teacher. The school is no situation for a young CHILD (yes, 17 is a child) to make statements she may regret when she is fully formed. I hope theyu manage to arrange a solution that brings a satisfactory conclusion to all involved. If you say 17, then why not 15, 9 etc. Her choice is not a human right or to do with fee speech eirth.


Look, there's a difference between a child and a teenager. Teenagers date. They have infatuations and confuse them for love. They even have sex. They have libidos and an interest in sex and romance. "Children" don't.

Why even have a prom at all if they're just children?

If you're going to have a prom, why limit it to heterosexual couples only?
 
2009-11-11 06:45:53 AM  
Anyone else get a warning from their virus scanner on this site? It happened every time until I blocked the ads manually.
 
2009-11-11 06:48:46 AM  
The district has until November 20 to respond to the letter.

"LOL"

or what? they get another letter?
 
2009-11-11 06:52:20 AM  
Congrats Principal. And way to go school board for backing him up. Get ready to be sued into oblivion. Then you can blame the lesbian and the ACLU for having to cut back on education in your county (but not Football, never football) when all you had to do is look the other way and mind your own business.
 
2009-11-11 06:52:24 AM  
Why is this an issue? Girls dance together all the time and a graduate should be able to invite a 'friend' be it lesbo, homo, best bud or whatever; this is being made an issue. I might wonder if she wants to dress in a tuxedo but, really, who cares?

OK, she's lesbian and wants to bring a 'friend'; or he's a gay and wants to bring a 'friend'. Maybe he's a ethnic person and wants to bring a 'friend' Whatever! There are many more issues than this and as far as I am concerned; this is not an issue.
 
2009-11-11 06:55:08 AM  
Going to a prom isn't a right, it's a privilege. Schools have rules for a reason, and they should be followed. The other students should not have to tolerate the perversion of one of their fellow students. Perhaps if this child had received corrective counseling when this perversion first manifested, this would be a non-issue. Yes, I am older than most of you who post here. No, I am not religious. And yes, I believe being gay is a lifestyle choice, an unfortunate one at that. Could I be trolling, could be?
 
2009-11-11 06:58:07 AM  

NicoFinn: Epsilon: I'm related to some of those people, farkface.

You sound like a real tolerant person who knows how to love and accept your family no matter what they think. I see you've inherited the "asshole" trait you speak of.

Next question?

Yes. Could you do the South a favor and stay the hell out?


seconded. what an insufferable douche. if i recall - he's also the guy who hard a hard time with the concept of "what an animal is"

i think he's a troll.
 
2009-11-11 06:59:40 AM  

lookout_below: Going to a prom isn't a right, it's a privilege. Schools have rules for a reason, and they should be followed. The other students should not have to tolerate the perversion of one of their fellow students. Perhaps if this child had received corrective counseling when this perversion first manifested, this would be a non-issue. Yes, I am older than most of you who post here. No, I am not religious. And yes, I believe being gay is a lifestyle choice, an unfortunate one at that. Could I be trolling, could be?


1/10

Too obvious.
 
2009-11-11 07:00:55 AM  
Schools always focus on the wrong things. If Susie wants to bring Susie as a date or Johnny wants to bring Johnny, big damned splash. Where school administrators fall down on the job is allowing kids to go to prom without proper tuxedos. Even if the little miscreants wear them, they probably don't know how to put on the cummerbund or they wear those cheap-ass pre-tied bow ties upside down, or they don't have proper studs and cufflinks. Why, I even saw a kid wearing a French cuff shirt with the cuffs not turned - obviously pure trailer trash! If you don't even know how to dress, who you are hanging out with is pretty much irrelevant!

And while we make a big deal about prom dates or what's on the T-shirt the kids are wearing or what we call Halloween (or Fall Festival or whatever), we graduate yet another class of virtual illiterates.
 
2009-11-11 07:02:19 AM  

BesiktasBoy83: I support the teacher. The school is no situation for a young CHILD (yes, 17 is a child) to make statements she may regret when she is fully formed. I hope theyu manage to arrange a solution that brings a satisfactory conclusion to all involved. If you say 17, then why not 15, 9 etc. Her choice is not a human right or to do with fee speech eirth.


Check this shiat out, bucko:

The majority of the couples who attend prom together do not stay together for life.

Let's cancel all proms / dances / parties / high school all together.

If you shouldn't do something just because you might regret it later, maybe you shouldn't talk out of your ass on the Internet. It's serious business.
 
2009-11-11 07:04:09 AM  

CMVenom: Zabbadizzat: Nevermind. I can see where my last post can be dissected. I should only deal in absolutes from now on.

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.


BEGIN THREADJACK
I was embarrassed after I laughed heartily at that line in the theater, only to realize nobody else thought it was funny...

I'm still not sure if has some deeper meaning (such as, "You can't always rely on what I tell you") or if it's just the writers/editors being too stupid/lazy to fix the inconsistency.
END THREADJACK

I can't say I'm surprised this sort of thing happened in the deep south. Alabama doesn't exactly have the best track record for civil rights, either.

The school administration should be more concerned with making sure student conduct (and, I guess, dress code) is enforced at this function than who is or isn't dating who.

But, as other Farkers have already said, the school board doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning any kind of case.
 
2009-11-11 07:06:02 AM  

shivashakti: Look, there's a difference between a child and a teenager. Teenagers date. They have infatuations and confuse them for love. They even have sex. They have libidos and an interest in sex and romance. "Children" don't.

Why even have a prom at all if they're just children?

If you're going to have a prom, why limit it to heterosexual couples only?


Stop paralleling my logic before I post it, god damnit!
 
2009-11-11 07:07:19 AM  

Epsilon: I'm related to some of those people, farkface. My father's entire family is from Georgia. Most of them still live there and they're all bigoted assholes. Not even my dad can stand them anymore.

He and my mom visited his relatives recently and were abhorred at their racism and lack of general decorum. My mom swore she would never go back to Georgia.

Next question?


So the whole south is screwed up because your dad hates his family?

Really, Georgia has its redneck towns and a share of idiots - but it also has a large college educated population that is rather tolerant. There's actually a lot of gay-pride stuff here and nobody I've ever seen has any problem with that.
I thought it was backwards and too religion-controlled... but then I went back to the North East and was rather overwhelmed by the bigotry I'd forgotten about.

A lot of places have their stupid. Less educated, more isolated towns are probably the most likely to be intolerant.
 
2009-11-11 07:09:21 AM  
There were several gay couples at my prom, and nobody gave a rats ass. But that's because I don't live in a shiathole like backwoods Alabama.

Also, that girl's hat is pretty silly.
 
2009-11-11 07:09:40 AM  
GranoblasticMan: But, as other Farkers have already said, the school board doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning any kind of case.

Perhaps not, but if the prom is canceled, the case would be moot and the school board would win.
 
2009-11-11 07:10:54 AM  
Civil rights arguments aside, I just wanted to mention that I was surprised to find that the girl in question looked chubby in her pic.
 
2009-11-11 07:12:46 AM  

lookout_below: GranoblasticMan: But, as other Farkers have already said, the school board doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning any kind of case.

Perhaps not, but if the prom is canceled, the case would be moot and the school board would win.


Prom is cancelled, school board loses their next election as "those douches who cancelled Prom cause of so-and-so's nice gay daughter."
 
2009-11-11 07:14:40 AM  

lookout_below: GranoblasticMan: But, as other Farkers have already said, the school board doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning any kind of case.

Perhaps not, but if the prom is canceled, the case would be moot and the school board would win.


And what's to keep the kids from pooling their money (that they would've otherwise spent on prom tickets), renting out a hall somewhere else, and having their own non-school-affiliated "prom?" The school really has no power over the kids' social lives, and I doubt a school full of teenagers is going to let the school board stop them from having a crazy party night. And if they do, well, prom wasn't so important after all.
 
2009-11-11 07:15:44 AM  

ErinPac: Epsilon: I'm related to some of those people, farkface. My father's entire family is from Georgia. Most of them still live there and they're all bigoted assholes. Not even my dad can stand them anymore.

He and my mom visited his relatives recently and were abhorred at their racism and lack of general decorum. My mom swore she would never go back to Georgia.

Next question?

So the whole south is screwed up because your dad hates his family?

Really, Georgia has its redneck towns and a share of idiots - but it also has a large college educated population that is rather tolerant. There's actually a lot of gay-pride stuff here and nobody I've ever seen has any problem with that.
I thought it was backwards and too religion-controlled... but then I went back to the North East and was rather overwhelmed by the bigotry I'd forgotten about.

A lot of places have their stupid. Less educated, more isolated towns are probably the most likely to be intolerant.


Agreed.

Boston was really bad about that.

The most ironic thing in my travels was witnessing hate crimes in Berkeley, CA.

The south isn't perfect, but just like anywhere else stay so you get more than a superficial opinion and it's actually very wonderful.

/Asian born and raised in the south. Louisiana 8 years, Georgia 20. Wouldn't want it any other way.
 
2009-11-11 07:16:27 AM  

Zabbadizzat: So don't go to prom. I knew gals that showed up with other gals at prom and no one gave a shiat. I don't think any of them announced themselves as lesbians or if they were. She wants it announced or something or is trying to prove a point, who knows? If she had just showed up with a ticket with her partner, I doubt anyone would've said shiat. If I had gone to my principal and asked him if I could show up to prom wearing a Dead Kennedys tee, he would've said no. If I just showed up with it, maybe I'd get through, maybe I wouldn't, whatever. Is she really set on going to prom or just playing it up? And besides that, who in the hell lets their kid get holes pierced in their face?


I was suprised nobody has cued the "attention whore" pic yet.
 
2009-11-11 07:23:19 AM  
PonceAlyosha: Prom is cancelled, school board loses their next election as "those douches who cancelled Prom cause of so-and-so's nice gay daughter."

GranoblasticMan: And what's to keep the kids from pooling their money (that they would've otherwise spent on prom tickets), renting out a hall somewhere else, and having their own non-school-affiliated "prom?" The school really has no power over the kids' social lives, and I doubt a school full of teenagers is going to let the school board stop them from having a crazy party night. And if they do, well, prom wasn't so important after all.

Agreed, to both of your solutions. This non-issue will work itself out.
 
2009-11-11 07:23:43 AM  

Gwendolyn: Canceling the prom because someone is going to bring a date you don't like is farking retarded. The kids should pull a Footloose.


The cut of your jib...I like it!

nottothemovies.files.wordpress.com



RidersOfLohan
:
Or what? The ACLU will write another letter?


Nope, the ACLU will take the school district to court, cost it a lot of money, and the superintendent and principle [sic] will get to enjoy their new jobs stirring grits at the Waffle House.

/Mmmm, Waffle House
//Mmmmmm, Bacon
 
2009-11-11 07:27:02 AM  

GranoblasticMan: lookout_below: GranoblasticMan: But, as other Farkers have already said, the school board doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning any kind of case.

Perhaps not, but if the prom is canceled, the case would be moot and the school board would win.

And what's to keep the kids from pooling their money (that they would've otherwise spent on prom tickets), renting out a hall somewhere else, and having their own non-school-affiliated "prom?" The school really has no power over the kids' social lives, and I doubt a school full of teenagers is going to let the school board stop them from having a crazy party night. And if they do, well, prom wasn't so important after all.


Wasn't there a school somewhere down South where this happened a few years ago? I can't recall the circumstances that led to the school shutting down the prom but some of the parents got together (good luck with a high school kid being allowed to sign a rental agreement on a hall) and threw a prom for the kids. Probably ended up being a better party.

I know I'm an old phart but I don't recall the school being the slightest bit interested in who I went to prom with. There were tickets and you bought the tickets and went. I went to several proms. The one at my school, then there was a girl at another school who asked me to take her to hers, and a friend of my parents had a daughter who was actually quite nice but not popular for some reason and I was asked to escort her. I don't recall there being an issue at any one of them. I know that at one there were a couple girls dancing together but I was too busy focusing on my date and trying to get lucky myself to worry about what anyone else was doing.

What now gives schools the authority to decide who may attend prom and with whom? Which law passed that I missed?
 
2009-11-11 07:28:20 AM  

Epsilon: Alabama is farked up. So are Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Arkansas, Tennessee, Mississippi, and a few others.

Go ahead and try to tell me again that the South isn't filled with a bunch of ignorant, Bible-thumping bigots.


Apparently there's at least three who aren't. This girl, the girl she's trying to go to prom with, and me.

But content yourself in that by generalizing over an entire region of people, who you hold to be monolithic in their views simply because of where they live, you're no better than the principal in the article.

Farking douche.
 
2009-11-11 07:29:02 AM  

Gothnet: lookout_below: Going to a prom isn't a right, it's a privilege. Schools have rules for a reason, and they should be followed. The other students should not have to tolerate the perversion of one of their fellow students. Perhaps if this child had received corrective counseling when this perversion first manifested, this would be a non-issue. Yes, I am older than most of you who post here. No, I am not religious. And yes, I believe being gay is a lifestyle choice, an unfortunate one at that. Could I be trolling, could be?

1/10

Too obvious.


too obvious? he SAID he was trolling. how could you not read that as tongue in cheek?
 
2009-11-11 07:35:01 AM  
let them go together.

because if the prom is the highlight of their life, they're going no where but downhill anyway
 
2009-11-11 07:36:12 AM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: You suck at life.


he's one of the funniest guys this site has seen, you doofus
 
2009-11-11 07:38:24 AM  
Did anyone mention scissors yet?
 
2009-11-11 07:38:29 AM  
I dont understand how this crap even gets noticed, girls go to the prom together all the time. They must have been advertising that they are gey and will be going to the prom and nobody can stop them cause they have rights n stuff. Stupid. Who cares. Attention whores/stupid kids and or parents. Ignore them, they will go away.
 
2009-11-11 07:38:50 AM  

kellynoel: Kids today, when purchasing their tickets, have to give the name of their date, who, by the way, must be a student in the school district. Everyone shows his or her ID at the door.


Wow. Really puts the pressure on to start asking soon, eh?

I agree with whomever. Two girls going "together" isn't going to get the prom cancelled. Two girls going as "dates".

The fact is that the girls could have gone if they wanted to. They wanted to put the powers-that-be on the spot. Why? Because they're kids. That's what they do.

Of course some Queer people will argue that they have a right to go as 'out' or 'open' or whatever the hell the damn term is nowadays. To them I say; yes, maybe, but life is mostly about learning how to get on with people.
 
2009-11-11 07:39:13 AM  
Ugh, I hate these threads. Why the f*ck did I click on this?
 
2009-11-11 07:45:46 AM  
In my day, when a girl wanted to bring her friend to the prom it was a non issue.

Of course, in my day a girl bringing her girlfriend to the prom didn't mean the same thing as two chicks making out in the hotel pool while the principle was trying to crown the King and Queen...

sarcasticgamer.com

/Hot like high school lesbians.
 
2009-11-11 07:46:00 AM  

rubi_con_man: The fact is that the girls could have gone if they wanted to. They wanted to put the powers-that-be on the spot. Why? Because they're kids. That's what they do.


And instead of it being the non-issue it should've been, the "powers-that-be" played into her trap. Sure, it's possible she's being an attention-seeking drama queen, but that's completely irrelevant to the fact that the principal has no legal ground to stand on.

rubi_con_man: Of course some Queer people will argue that they have a right to go as 'out' or 'open' or whatever the hell the damn term is nowadays. To them I say; yes, maybe, but life is mostly about learning how to get on with people.


Your double-standard for tolerance really makes me wonder if I'm being trolled.
 
2009-11-11 07:57:01 AM  

BesiktasBoy83: OK i suck at spelling. ;)


It ain't the only thing you suck at.
 
2009-11-11 08:03:21 AM  
Hey, she's not an attention whore. She's a reasonable young person expecting her rights. I hope she embarrasses the school district and maybe even gets someone fired. It's about time society stopped telling gays to hush up. Proms are about celebrating having made it this far. Who the fark should step in and say, your lifestyle is inappropriate for this venue? Go off and die, old farks. You took her parents' tax money and now you'd like t9o sit in judgment and ruin a perfectly good party? Fark you and the horse you wish you'd rode in on.
 
2009-11-11 08:03:41 AM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: Zabbadizzat: People can't just show up to prom as singles, kellynoel? There weren't a lot of them, but I'm fairly sure it was allowed. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.

Like a black guy showing up "single" and meeting his white girlfriend, also a "single", out back? Sure, I guess that is "allowed".


Or worse, she could be going with a yankee!
 
2009-11-11 08:03:50 AM  
My best friend was stood up on prom night by some jackass in our Junior year. I told her I'd go with her and we'd get piss drunk together and bash him all night (I was kind of one of those people who hated school functions and had boycotted it but would lift the boycott if it'd make her feel better). She found a male date though so it was a nonissue. The thought that it would've bothered someone never occurred to me at the time.

And to think, my bringing my 21 year old male friend to my senior prom was a source of gossip. People need to mind their own damned business.
 
2009-11-11 08:07:09 AM  

archichris: good times. Turned out he was a pedophile but didnt get caught till years later. So....not so good times?


You were all probably too old for him, so you were likely safe.
 
2009-11-11 08:09:21 AM  
I find the lack of pictures of what lesbians might look like disturbing. I'll just leave this here.

i856.photobucket.com
 
2009-11-11 08:12:52 AM  
Show me someone who urges apathy because "this is just the way it works," and I'll show you someone who's intent on making sure it keeps working that way without drawing return fire him/herself.

Federal law clearly outlines penalties for a federally-funded institution engaging in discrimination, of any kind, based on race, sexuality, disability, or religion. No exceptions; no passive-aggressive "this is just how it is," like there's no rush to get out of 1960 and join the present. The cultural backwaters in this country could only plead ignorance when there was no one around to educate them. They don't get to actively close their ears and yet rely on the same old excuse.

The kids go to Prom or the school district gets sued for piles of cash, and loses, and has to pay the penalty for civil rights violations against a minor.

THAT'S how it works.
 
2009-11-11 08:15:01 AM  
Is she on the offensive or defensive line?
 
2009-11-11 08:18:17 AM  
I read the headline and thought Alabamastan. Seriously most of the south has gotten off of the uber fundie attitude. My Step-Daughter had a Girlfriend for a while. My wife and I really didn't care, although I disliked the girl because she struck me as trouble, and I was right. I expect to get BIE from her sooner or later as she becomes one of T'Fette AW TNG. Step Daughter still doens't know we figured it out. I was so proud of her when she actually told my wifes fundie aunt "Why does it matter if gay people get married". Step Daughter is dating guys now that she has gotten some confidence. If it was not for Arkansas and Alabama the south would be doing better in getting the fundie out.
 
2009-11-11 08:18:54 AM  
School these days is much more about fitting in and conforming than it was when I was there. More schools than ever have uniforms, required footwear, extra curricular attendance and a whole littany of other things that weren't required when I was in school. It's done in trying to make people conform to the standards of the school and I think if these two meet those standards (being students, buying tickets, etc.) then they should enjoy the same priveleges as the other kids. If there are any other circumstances.. say, the gf isn't a student or doesn't meet some other requirement, as long as they hold the other students to the same standard, then the school should be free to bar whoever. Hopefully the girl/girl nature of this is the only "rule" they've broken and the ACLU threats will back the school down.

/Bible Thumper from the Bible Belt, USA.
//Don't like the gay lifestyle, but know several fine gay people and I wouldn't want them to be any less-happy than anybody else.
 
2009-11-11 08:19:48 AM  
came for 'what a lesbian might look like' thread... leaving a bit disappointed...

/only a bit thanks to SeesWhatYouDidThere :)
 
2009-11-11 08:20:41 AM  
Here's an idea. How about not trying to make Lesbian,Bi,Gay,and Transgender a HUGE issue every year for prom. Gay students go to prom together-they just show up..If they don't let ya in the door THEN YOU call the ACLU. HOWEVER you do not do this:
"When Cynthia approached her principal to ask if she could bring her girlfriend with her to the prom, he said no."
If you do that-I am going to assume you are an attention whore that wants to be contacted by Jerry Springer. Your flash in the pan lasted as long as it took to type this.
 
2009-11-11 08:22:49 AM  

Uncle Rico: School these days is much more about fitting in and conforming than it was when I was there. More schools than ever have uniforms, required footwear, extra curricular attendance and a whole littany of other things that weren't required when I was in school. It's done in trying to make people conform to the standards of the school and I think if these two meet those standards (being students, buying tickets, etc.) then they should enjoy the same priveleges as the other kids. If there are any other circumstances.. say, the gf isn't a student or doesn't meet some other requirement, as long as they hold the other students to the same standard, then the school should be free to bar whoever. Hopefully the girl/girl nature of this is the only "rule" they've broken and the ACLU threats will back the school down.

/Bible Thumper from the Bible Belt, USA.
//Don't like the gay lifestyle, but know several fine gay people and I wouldn't want them to be any less-happy than anybody else.


Thanks man. You are a credit to the rest of us Christians out here. We are made look bad on a regular basis because of the douche among us. I have found the biggest jerks are the ones with something to hide. I think the wifes fundie aunt is a secret submissive lesbian. She is really trying to compensate for something.
 
2009-11-11 08:22:53 AM  
Am I the only one seeing this?

image3.examiner.com

and

trainjotting.files.wordpress.com
 
2009-11-11 08:24:31 AM  
Yeah, attention whore is where it is at. This 'little girl' shows that 1 she had to have told everyone that she was a lesbian, 2 Showing off to everyone how 'different' she is to everyone(by being just like everyone else) 3 and she demands that everyone sees what she is on a nationwide level. Gay sympathizers are the only ones taking her case because they are delusional, instead of taking the practical approach of ignoring her. If she would do what a real lesbian would do, keep it to themselves and not shout it from the roof tops, there would never have been a problem.
 
2009-11-11 08:24:38 AM  

Niali: Federal law clearly outlines penalties for a federally-funded institution engaging in discrimination, of any kind, based on race, sexuality, disability, or religion.


Yeah, but what are those penalties? I, for one, would like nothing more than for the school to get some sense and just let this girl and her girlfriend go to the prom like any other normal teenage couple. On the other hand, if he does cancel prom or otherwise prevent them from attending, I would like to see this school district and, if possible, the principle himself pretty much hounded to the ends of the earth by the ACLU. They really can't let something like this get by them, not with the climate being what it is now over gay marriage.

Also, would it be possible to file some sort of a civil suit claiming damages of some kind? I mean, getting barred from prom, heck, having prom CANCELED because of your sexual orientation could be a bit traumatizin', no?
 
2009-11-11 08:25:56 AM  
Cancel Prom???
That's so gay!
 
2009-11-11 08:26:20 AM  

globalwarmingpraiser: Thanks man. You are a credit to the rest of us Christians out here. We are made look bad on a regular basis because of the douche among us. I have found the biggest jerks are the ones with something to hide. I think the wifes fundie aunt is a secret submissive lesbian. She is really trying to compensate for something.


It's really unfair that an entire religion gets judged by its most visible and fundamentalist adherents...

I don't like it when it happens to Muslims, and I don't like to see it happen to Christians either. Most Christians I know think the Fred Phelps way of hatred is wrong. Christ defended a prostitute that was being stoned to death by the community. Why wouldn't he defend a gay person?
 
2009-11-11 08:26:40 AM  

Mr. Right:
And what's to keep the kids from pooling their money (that they would've otherwise spent on prom tickets), renting out a hall somewhere else, and having their own non-school-affiliated "prom?" The school really has no power over the kids' social lives, and I doubt a school full of teenagers is going to let the school board stop them from having a crazy party night. And if they do, well, prom wasn't so important after all.

Wasn't there a school somewhere down South where this happened a few years ago? I can't recall the circumstances that led to the school shutting down the prom but some of the parents got together (good luck with a high school kid being allowed to sign a rental agreement on a hall) and threw a prom for the kids. Probably ended up being a better party.



I remember reading about that, and I believe the school board said that any student attending an non-sanctioned prom would be expelled. They cited safety reasons, because the school board could not assure that proper security, chaperons, etc. would be provided. The majority of parents decided that a potential expulsion was too great a risk to their kids' college prospects, and the non-prom was canceled.

I know other school districts have had similar rules regarding after-prom parties, so I think they were on sound legal ground.

(Going off of vague recollection here, so we might not even be thinking of the same school/prom)
 
2009-11-11 08:27:06 AM  

shivashakti: globalwarmingpraiser: Thanks man. You are a credit to the rest of us Christians out here. We are made look bad on a regular basis because of the douche among us. I have found the biggest jerks are the ones with something to hide. I think the wifes fundie aunt is a secret submissive lesbian. She is really trying to compensate for something.

It's really unfair that an entire religion gets judged by its most visible and fundamentalist adherents...

I don't like it when it happens to Muslims, and I don't like to see it happen to Christians either. Most Christians I know think the Fred Phelps way of hatred is wrong. Christ defended a prostitute that was being stoned to death by the community. Why wouldn't he defend a gay person?


Amen
 
2009-11-11 08:27:31 AM  
I really read this headline wrong....

I thought the principal's girlfriend was getting taken to the prom...
 
2009-11-11 08:29:44 AM  

tillerman35: Mr. Right:
And what's to keep the kids from pooling their money (that they would've otherwise spent on prom tickets), renting out a hall somewhere else, and having their own non-school-affiliated "prom?" The school really has no power over the kids' social lives, and I doubt a school full of teenagers is going to let the school board stop them from having a crazy party night. And if they do, well, prom wasn't so important after all.

Wasn't there a school somewhere down South where this happened a few years ago? I can't recall the circumstances that led to the school shutting down the prom but some of the parents got together (good luck with a high school kid being allowed to sign a rental agreement on a hall) and threw a prom for the kids. Probably ended up being a better party.

I remember reading about that, and I believe the school board said that any student attending an non-sanctioned prom would be expelled. They cited safety reasons, because the school board could not assure that proper security, chaperons, etc. would be provided. The majority of parents decided that a potential expulsion was too great a risk to their kids' college prospects, and the non-prom was canceled.

I know other school districts have had similar rules regarding after-prom parties, so I think they were on sound legal ground.

(Going off of vague recollection here, so we might not even be thinking of the same school/prom)


Fine have a formal party. If you don't call it a prom or mention the schools name the the school can bugger off.
 
2009-11-11 08:29:44 AM  

TommyDeuce: Am I the only one seeing this?

and



He's in the middle of a big bike race.
 
2009-11-11 08:31:11 AM  
The principal chose to be a giant cock about this.

That's not what these girls are looking for.
 
2009-11-11 08:31:20 AM  

BesiktasBoy83: OK i suck at spelling. ;)


You just suck.
 
2009-11-11 08:33:29 AM  
Thisbymaster: If she would do what a real lesbian would do, keep it to themselves and not shout it from the roof tops, there would never have been a problem.

A real lesbian would show up to prom with a girl, like she wants to, you idiot.
 
2009-11-11 08:33:38 AM  

Thisbymaster: Yeah, attention whore is where it is at. This 'little girl' shows that 1 she had to have told everyone that she was a lesbian, 2 Showing off to everyone how 'different' she is to everyone(by being just like everyone else) 3 and she demands that everyone sees what she is on a nationwide level. Gay sympathizers are the only ones taking her case because they are delusional, instead of taking the practical approach of ignoring her. If she would do what a real lesbian would do, keep it to themselves and not shout it from the roof tops, there would never have been a problem.


2/10

Weak. But you'll probably get some bites so I can't in good conscience give you a zero.
 
2009-11-11 08:34:17 AM  
Regardless of what the school board desperately hopes will happen here, I look at this like all the principals that try to stop the gay/straight alliance clubs and get sued, and lose - every time. Dozens of cases across the country, they lose and lose again, costing their districts millions of dollars in legal fees.

Then they say "Oh because of THESE KIDS we have to cut teachers and budgets." No, because you spent all that money fighting something that was, if they looked at all at the settled law, a hopeless cause. When asked the school boards almost always say something like "But we figured we'd finally be the ones that found the sympathetic judge to rule our way after dozens of defeats."

Look, go back a long time of legal history - there are lots of cases where a group loses cases across jurisdictions over and over, then finally wins, and it sort of sweeps the nation. But those cases? They almost always are the ones that EXPAND rights and freedoms, not restrict them.

This district will likely lose, and biatch and moan about the legal fees they will be forced to pay, as a poor district in a city of 9000, and they'll get upset and try to shift blame to the kids - completely ignoring the fact that it was easily avoidable.
 
2009-11-11 08:38:51 AM  
maybe she wasn't invited because no one in their right mind wants to see that in a dress.
 
2009-11-11 08:44:17 AM  

Cup_O_Jo: Here's an idea. How about not trying to make Lesbian,Bi,Gay,and Transgender a HUGE issue every year for prom. Gay students go to prom together-they just show up..If they don't let ya in the door THEN YOU call the ACLU. HOWEVER you do not do this:
"When Cynthia approached her principal to ask if she could bring her girlfriend with her to the prom, he said no."
If you do that-I am going to assume you are an attention whore that wants to be contacted by Jerry Springer. Your flash in the pan lasted as long as it took to type this.


and

Thisbymaster: Yeah, attention whore is where it is at. This 'little girl' shows that 1 she had to have told everyone that she was a lesbian, 2 Showing off to everyone how 'different' she is to everyone(by being just like everyone else) 3 and she demands that everyone sees what she is on a nationwide level. Gay sympathizers are the only ones taking her case because they are delusional, instead of taking the practical approach of ignoring her. If she would do what a real lesbian would do, keep it to themselves and not shout it from the roof tops, there would never have been a problem.


Except that the principal had no right and no reason to say "no" to her request to bring her girlfriend. It's pretty difficult for an "attention whore" to be an "attention whore" if they're denied the spotlight. All the principal had to do is say, "Okay," and this would've been a complete non-issue. Instead, he decided his personal bigoted viewpoints were more important than legal precedent, and he's going to suffer the consequences for his actions.

I'm sorry, but what you're basically saying is, "I'm okay with homosexuals as long as nobody knows they're homosexuals." It's the same bullshiat as the DADT policy. Why is it fine for a heterosexual couple to be seen socially and introduce themselves as a couple but a homosexual couple should "just keep quiet?" What is it about "Can I bring my lesbian girlfriend to the prom" that is more "attention whore" than "Can I bring my heterosexual boyfriend to the prom?" The answer to both should be exactly the same: "Yes."
 
2009-11-11 08:49:22 AM  

TommyDeuce: Am I the only one seeing this?

and


HA...not any more.


But really this principle is such an asshat. Since most proms try to crack down at making out at prom, many single straight girls go to prom in groups, groups of straight girls tend to dance slutty with either other more often than lesbians so there really isn't a problem other then they'll get their picture taken together and slow dance with each other...the horror.
 
2009-11-11 08:49:57 AM  
Has anyone mentioned that lesbianism is hot, but the dudes together thing is gross? If not, I'm mentioning it. It's one of the few absolutes in the universe.
 
2009-11-11 08:57:23 AM  
I don't understand why she asked the principal. Or maybe I do understand.
FAIL
 
2009-11-11 09:00:40 AM  
I just don't understand how a principle like this can keep their job....

How do you justify that to whoever runs the schools (boards or councils, or what have you).
"Yeah, well I thought it would be awesome if we got sued for amounts that dwarf our budget. You know, cuz they're teh ghey"...

Also you'd think when they hire people like this they'd ask. "Tell us mr. x, what if a lesbian wanted to go to prom?" So they could weed them out. Or "What if two students are of two seperate races? Would that offend you?"

And what is the moral point here? Being gay is bad, but making sure your district won't be able to afford new text books for the next three decades is...good? Better? More g-dly?

The moment our school administrators forget their station, you get things like this. Schools exist to give a base line education and to indoctrinate our young into our society. That's it. If you want extra, send them to private school... otherwise, that's all they get, cuz that's all they need.

/flummoxed by the absolute selfishness of this principle.
//Needs coffee.
 
2009-11-11 09:02:37 AM  

Zabbadizzat: But, I imagine a lot of black/white pairings, when that was frowned on, did have to buy tickets as singles and meet out back. Getting other people past their prejudices isn't gonna happen right off the bat.

Maybe easing into it is better than shoving it into their face? People react differently when you're confrontational. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's how folks tend to work.


Stop trying to play the Attention Whore card. it's not working.
 
2009-11-11 09:05:07 AM  

Researcher: I just don't understand how a principle like this can keep their job....


It's Alabama.
This is one of the most fundamentalist areas of the country. In a democracy, that means if it's left unchecked, the majority rules. Most of the people running the towns and counties and racist redneck fundies.

They tend to only vote for other racist redneck fundies and hire only other racist redneck fundies.
 
2009-11-11 09:06:44 AM  

Empty Signal Gray: Has anyone mentioned that lesbianism is hot, but the dudes together thing is gross? If not, I'm mentioning it. It's one of the few absolutes in the universe.


Opposite of that.
 
2009-11-11 09:08:17 AM  

shivashakti: Researcher: I just don't understand how a principle like this can keep their job....

It's Alabama.
This is one of the most fundamentalist areas of the country. In a democracy, that means if it's left unchecked, the majority rules. Most of the people running the towns and counties and racist redneck fundies.

They tend to only vote for other racist redneck fundies and hire only other racist redneck fundies.


That is why we are a representative republic. Minorities have rights and the government and government entities cannot play favorites. It's not just a good idea, it's our policy.
 
2009-11-11 09:09:53 AM  
I don't get the issue a lot of girls brought their friends as dates to my school, and it was part of the Catholic school board. Granted none of them were actually lesbians to my knowledge, regardless seems like she shouldn't have said anything.
 
2009-11-11 09:12:15 AM  

Knucklepopper: I don't understand why she asked the principal. Or maybe I do understand.
FAIL


If you bothered to read the thread, there are a plethora of reasons. So...you FAIL.
 
2009-11-11 09:12:29 AM  
the kid is more grown up than the principal.
 
2009-11-11 09:15:18 AM  
I really didn't think I'd have to spell this out but....

Majority Rule =/= Democracy.

There are these things called Democratic principles, responsibilities of the majority to the minority, they've been thoroughly debated since they were made up.... by this greek guy.... Democritus... maybe you've heard o him?

/sigh
 
2009-11-11 09:15:33 AM  

Marla Singer's Laundry: BesiktasBoy83: OK i suck at spelling. ;)

You just suck.


That was uncalled for. This was a pretty interesting debate, sorry you had to change it to school chat.
 
2009-11-11 09:18:16 AM  
No one's got a picture of the principal yet?
 
2009-11-11 09:18:43 AM  

Altourus: I don't get the issue a lot of girls brought their friends as dates to my school, and it was part of the Catholic school board. Granted none of them were actually lesbians to my knowledge, regardless seems like she shouldn't have said anything.


But this would be hideing. Sure, maybe hiding in plain sight, but hideing none-the-less. I belive these issues should be tackled, not swept under the rug.
 
2009-11-11 09:23:16 AM  
Why did they put a picture of a fat wigger in the middle of a story about lesbians?
 
2009-11-11 09:23:36 AM  
So, high school lesbians look like frat-boy douches?
 
2009-11-11 09:25:46 AM  
Okay, saw the picture now it wouldn't load before. She is very unattractive, lots of lesbains seem to be. I find it most strange that they love women so they dress like a man! wtf? Same with homosexuals they seem to love men but then they act like a girl - clothes/voice etc.
 
2009-11-11 09:26:16 AM  

Gwendolyn: Just for clarification: I didn't actually run into her with my car. She was waiting to cross the street while I was stopped at a red light.


Lol. And yeah, the principal is an ass.
 
2009-11-11 09:27:03 AM  
Um...the term "democracy" isn't related to Democritus and wasn't named after Democritus, nor were his maxims called the "Democratic principles".

He was the guy who coined the term "atom".
 
2009-11-11 09:30:48 AM  

BesiktasBoy83: Okay, saw the picture now it wouldn't load before. She is very unattractive, lots of lesbains seem to be. I find it most strange that they love women so they dress like a man! wtf? Same with homosexuals they seem to love men but then they act like a girl - clothes/voice etc.



Makes sense when you think about it.
 
2009-11-11 09:31:44 AM  

BesiktasBoy83: Okay, saw the picture now it wouldn't load before. She is very unattractive, lots of lesbains seem to be. I find it most strange that they love women so they dress like a man! wtf? Same with homosexuals they seem to love men but then they act like a girl - clothes/voice etc.


So, do they not have openly homosexual people in Turkey?
 
2009-11-11 09:33:33 AM  
The principal was right. Focus on this instead of the group sex that typically happens after the prom in hotel rooms. Drunken wild group sex. Drug fueled, sweaty hot tight young bodies group sex

/prom night was amazing
//its always weird when you see your ass on xtube
///wait..what?
 
2009-11-11 09:34:46 AM  

Thisbymaster: Yeah, attention whore is where it is at. This 'little girl' shows that 1 she had to have told everyone that she was a lesbian...


Do you make the same claim for Christians who where a cross around their necks? I mean, they choose to tell everyone they;re Christians.
 
2009-11-11 09:37:44 AM  

Ed Grubermann: BesiktasBoy83: Okay, saw the picture now it wouldn't load before. She is very unattractive, lots of lesbains seem to be. I find it most strange that they love women so they dress like a man! wtf? Same with homosexuals they seem to love men but then they act like a girl - clothes/voice etc.

So, do they not have openly homosexual people in Turkey?


Yes some in bigger cities but it is still not acceptable most places.
 
2009-11-11 09:38:10 AM  
"It's just sad to see this school twisting itself in so many different directions to avoid its constitutional obligations to one student,"

Our schools are screwed up, not because of a lack of funding, but because idiots think schools have a constitutional obligation to hold a prom.
 
2009-11-11 09:39:46 AM  

DazedCouple: Follow up


"This issue is going to be confronting a lot of conservative normal school districts more and more as this generation 'Meh' accepts people for who they are has perversity rammed down its throat," Sherrod said. "There is case law that makes right and wrong very clear because law-yahs are superior to God."

AUSTRALIA OR BUST
 
2009-11-11 09:44:55 AM  
Lesbian = attention whore. Nothing more.
 
2009-11-11 09:46:43 AM  
We have to destroy the prom to save the prom.
 
2009-11-11 09:47:23 AM  
I take it High School Principal is a particularly lonely and boring vocation.
 
2009-11-11 09:49:38 AM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: Zabbadizzat:

Thou doth protest too much


Translation: you expressed an opinion not in lockstep with TCS. Get with the program, man, or you'll be shunned a second time.
 
2009-11-11 09:50:05 AM  
download.lardlad.com

Hmm. Bottlenose bruises. Blowhole burns. Flipper prints. This looks like the work of rowdy teens. Lou, cancel the prom.
 
2009-11-11 09:54:12 AM  
In 1994, when Wedowee AL had interracial couples registered for the prom, the principal burned the school down. That kept them out.

Cancel prom? You're doing it wrong.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-861023.html
 
2009-11-11 09:58:48 AM  

cmoreland: Lesbian = attention whore. Nothing more.


Are you going to give her the deep dicking she needs Banky?
 
2009-11-11 09:59:54 AM  
God damn it Alafarkingbama. STOP TRYING SO HARD TO BE THE OFFICIAL FACEPALM STATE!

Damn dirty bible humping idiots ruin whats awesome about Alabama.
 
2009-11-11 10:02:57 AM  
as others have said, if the biatch would have shut her whore mouth and just showed up and met up with her girly lover there, no worries.

but nooooo.

she has to be an attention whore, announce that shes bisexual and create this gigantic shiatstorm.

way to go attention whore, mission accomplished.
 
2009-11-11 10:04:38 AM  
There's a link to the school's web site-- and the principal's email address-- at TFA, in case anyone wants to let him know how they feel about this.

Personally, I think the guy just invited himself to his own resignation. The school district can't win, and they'll need a fall guy.
 
2009-11-11 10:05:50 AM  

bodyshots: as others have said, if the biatch would have shut her whore mouth and just showed up and met up with her girly lover there, no worries.

but nooooo.

she has to be an attention whore, announce that shes bisexual and create this gigantic shiatstorm.

way to go attention whore, mission accomplished.


You have woman issues, don't you?
 
2009-11-11 10:05:53 AM  

bodyshots: as others have said, if the biatch would have shut her whore mouth and just showed up and met up with her girly lover there, no worries.

but nooooo.

she has to be an attention whore, announce that shes bisexual and create this gigantic shiatstorm.

way to go attention whore, mission accomplished.


And just how would she do that? The date has to be approved ahead of time. She can't just show up.

/Did I just see a troll.
\\I did, I did just see a troll.
 
2009-11-11 10:07:28 AM  

ZeroCorpse: There's a link to the school's web site-- and the principal's email address-- at TFA, in case anyone wants to let him know how they feel about this.

Personally, I think the guy just invited himself to his own resignation. The school district can't win, and they'll need a fall guy.


They need this guy?
freemovement.files.wordpress.com

/Hot like the chick on that show!
 
2009-11-11 10:09:14 AM  
FTFA:
Cynthia is on the prom committee, created the theme for the event, and personally raised over $200 to use for the March 25, 2010 event.

Sounds like a good kid. If she hadn't done so much work on the real prom, I woulda said hold your own party and get other students to boycott the prom.

Also - Beyond the whole humanity of it, discriminating against gays is really kicking yourself in the nuts. A lot of gay people are really creative and hard working, good employees, good entrepreneurs, good home owners. They raise property values and make whole neighborhoods look nice with well-kept houses and lawns, with cute boutiquey stores and restaurants.

Then the hetero yuppies sweep in and the less well-to-do gays move out and start all over again with another neighborhood ... (See: Andersonville neighborhood in Chicago).
 
2009-11-11 10:09:35 AM  
I cant beleive you farkers, 200+ posts and literally only one damn picture.... for shame, the shear enormity of material under a gis for Teenage Lesbian Prom could burn the house down.....

.... for shame
 
2009-11-11 10:09:45 AM  
way south: Hot like high school lesbians.

You know how I know you didn't RTFA?
 
2009-11-11 10:10:14 AM  

GranoblasticMan: BEGIN THREADJACK
I was embarrassed after I laughed heartily at that line in the theater, only to realize nobody else thought it was funny...

I'm still not sure if has some deeper meaning (such as, "You can't always rely on what I tell you") or if it's just the writers/editors being too stupid/lazy to fix the inconsistency.
END THREADJACK


I laughed at that in theaters, as well, because it was such a ridiculous disconnect. I would say that it was clever on the part of the writers to try to make a deeper point, but after "it's over, I have the high ground!" I refuse to accept that anyone involved in the writing of that film had half a brain.

/My roomie laughed at the high ground line
//Then he realized it wasn't a joke
///The disgust on his face was the funniest part of that movie
////Slashies!
 
2009-11-11 10:10:35 AM  

Zabbadizzat: So don't go to prom. I knew gals that showed up with other gals at prom and no one gave a shiat. I don't think any of them announced themselves as lesbians or if they were. She wants it announced or something or is trying to prove a point, who knows? If she had just showed up with a ticket with her partner, I doubt anyone would've said shiat. If I had gone to my principal and asked him if I could show up to prom wearing a Dead Kennedys tee, he would've said no. If I just showed up with it, maybe I'd get through, maybe I wouldn't, whatever. Is she really set on going to prom or just playing it up? And besides that, who in the hell lets their kid get holes pierced in their face?


This.

//...kind of thought is not welcome here in Liberal Land.
 
2009-11-11 10:11:26 AM  
I was going to ask in what horrid backwater this story came from, then I saw "Alabama".

Well, that's all I need.
 
2009-11-11 10:12:45 AM  
This is why the US can't have nice things. The South still owes us for the Civil War - just kill all of them now and improve the nation.

/and if you are one of the dozen or so who aren't complete traitorous scum, either get the fark out or acknowledge your enabler status and die with the people who hate America
//"ooh, there are bigotted assholes in other parts of the country". Yeah, but they are generally minorities, while the South is 99% toad-farkers. Eliminate them with extreme prejudice and the other scum will learn what the price for anti-Americanism is.
 
2009-11-11 10:15:56 AM  
My wife is a princiPAL.
Gettin kicks!!!
 
2009-11-11 10:18:16 AM  
thamike 2009-11-11 10:05:50 AM

You have woman issues, don't you?


not at all, 10 years married and going stronger than ever. wife hates attention whore 'lesbos' who just *have* to announce to the world that theyre lesbo and must accept their lifestyle

myself? i could care less what you do, but shiat like that, keep it far away from me please.

ps - stop projecting your problem onto me, thanks.


NightOwl2255 2009-11-11 10:05:53 AM

And just how would she do that? The date has to be approved ahead of time. She can't just show up.

/Did I just see a troll.
\\I did, I did just see a troll.


back when i went to school and prom came about, you had to declare if you were coming and if you were bringing a date. the date had to be approved of course.

explain how hard it is to just say 'yeah im coming, alone' and meet up with your lesbian lover there and have a randy good time?

how hard is that?

the biatch went out of her way to announce she is a lesbo, knowing full well *someone* would have a problem with it.

for you to defend her and say 'oh no, shes just expressing herself, how could she know there would be a problem?!!' is just stupid and naive.

/yeah you saw a troll,
//surprised trolls have mirrors.
 
2009-11-11 10:18:16 AM  

SeesWhatYouDidThere: I find the lack of pictures of what lesbians might look like disturbing. I'll just leave this here.


I should probably stop staring at that at work
 
2009-11-11 10:19:02 AM  

phalamir: This is why the US can't have nice things. The South still owes us for the Civil War - just kill all of them now and improve the nation.

/and if you are one of the dozen or so who aren't complete traitorous scum, either get the fark out or acknowledge your enabler status and die with the people who hate America
//"ooh, there are bigotted assholes in other parts of the country". Yeah, but they are generally minorities, while the South is 99% toad-farkers. Eliminate them with extreme prejudice and the other scum will learn what the price for anti-Americanism is.


IDIOT TROLL IS IDIOTIC! Eat a bag of dicks and die in a fire.
 
2009-11-11 10:20:00 AM  
FTFA: "He also made Cynthia remove a sticker she was wearing that said, "I am a lesbian," telling her, "You don't have that much freedom of speech at school."

Ahem...the Tinkers would like a word with you, dickhead principal.

Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District
(new window)
 
2009-11-11 10:30:10 AM  

phalamir: This is why the US can't have nice things. The South still owes us for the Civil War - just kill all of them now and improve the nation.

/and if you are one of the dozen or so who aren't complete traitorous scum, either get the fark out or acknowledge your enabler status and die with the people who hate America
//"ooh, there are bigotted assholes in other parts of the country". Yeah, but they are generally minorities, while the South is 99% toad-farkers. Eliminate them with extreme prejudice and the other scum will learn what the price for anti-Americanism is.


Since your profile says you're in Kentucky, 2/10.
 
2009-11-11 10:30:44 AM  

bodyshots: Lame half thought argument.


Oh, so now its the girl's fault and the shiat bag principal is a frakkin hero? Are you saying gay/lesbian/black/white/vulcan's are ok as long as they don't rock the boat? And this principal can go ahead and be an asshat and trample all over the kid's rights on a whim?
 
2009-11-11 10:31:25 AM  

phalamir: This is why the US can't have nice things. The South still owes us for the Civil War - just kill all of them now and improve the nation.

/and if you are one of the dozen or so who aren't complete traitorous scum, either get the fark out or acknowledge your enabler status and die with the people who hate America
//"ooh, there are bigotted assholes in other parts of the country". Yeah, but they are generally minorities, while the South is 99% toad-farkers. Eliminate them with extreme prejudice and the other scum will learn what the price for anti-Americanism is.


The Aryan Brotherhood is in Ohio. The Order was headquartered in Washington. And let's not forget these guys:

forums.radioreference.com
 
2009-11-11 10:32:27 AM  
If God wanted gay's he would have made Adam and Steve not Adam and Eve
 
2009-11-11 10:34:08 AM  
mini_martin 2009-11-11 10:32:27 AM


If God wanted gay's he would have made Adam and Steve not Adam and Eve



woooo boy...
 
2009-11-11 10:34:12 AM  

bodyshots: explain how hard it is to just say 'yeah im coming, alone' and meet up with your lesbian lover there and have a randy good time?

how hard is that?


If her girlfriend doesn't go to that school? Pretty hard.

for you to defend her and say 'oh no, shes just expressing herself, how could she know there would be a problem?!!' is just stupid and naive.

She shouldn't have to pretend to be someone else to protect someone's precious sensibilities.

Your narrow vision of the issue is just stupid and naive.
 
2009-11-11 10:35:15 AM  

bodyshots: explain how hard it is to just say 'yeah im coming, alone' and meet up with your lesbian lover there and have a randy good time?

how hard is that?


Are you stupid? How does the "lesbian lover" get in? She can't just "meet up" with her. The girlfriend is not a student. She can't in unless she is a date of a student. Try reading sometime. It's very enlightening.
 
2009-11-11 10:38:08 AM  

jennies1897: My best friend was stood up on prom night by some jackass in our Junior year. I told her I'd go with her and we'd get piss drunk together and bash him all night (I was kind of one of those people who hated school functions and had boycotted it but would lift the boycott if it'd make her feel better). She found a male date though so it was a nonissue. The thought that it would've bothered someone never occurred to me at the time.

And to think, my bringing my 21 year old male friend to my senior prom was a source of gossip. People need to mind their own damned business.


I took my 21 year old boyfriend to my senior prom. This was back about 5 years ago, and we had a little bit of problem getting in because he didn't have his ID on him, but everything worked out okay.

/although he did get mad because I smoked pot afterward
//that's why he's an EX
///it's prom, have fun
 
2009-11-11 10:38:35 AM  
Russad 2009-11-11 10:34:12 AM

If her girlfriend doesn't go to that school? Pretty hard.


well, schools do have rules for a reason. dont like it? move to a different school where the rules are more in line with your level of thinking, ok?


She shouldn't have to pretend to be someone else to protect someone's precious sensibilities.

Your narrow vision of the issue is just stupid and naive


so, the majority who find shiat like this offensive should bow down to the minority who dont? yeah, fark you buddy.

your internet white knighting of a tarded out bimbo high school lesbian is disturbing. should i call pedobear now?
 
2009-11-11 10:40:16 AM  
I don't remember my school having such control over what went on at the prom. It was paid for by private subscription and held off-campus. You bought your ticket and your date's ticket if you had one, and as long as you had the $$ you were in. Your date could be Godzilla as long as your money was just as green.
 
2009-11-11 10:41:35 AM  

bodyshots: so, the majority who find shiat like this offensive should bow down to the minority who dont? yeah, fark you buddy.

your internet white knighting of a tarded out bimbo high school lesbian is disturbing. should i call pedobear now?


From troll, to asshat, to full retard in one post! Good work.
 
2009-11-11 10:42:00 AM  
NightOwl2255 2009-11-11 10:35:15 AM

Are you stupid? How does the "lesbian lover" get in? She can't just "meet up" with her. The girlfriend is not a student. She can't in unless she is a date of a student. Try reading sometime. It's very enlightening.


as i said to the other guy up there... dont like the rules? go to a different school that allows that shiat. or, if you insist on staying, why not try and change the rules? petition to have it allowed?

ill reiterate once again: if you dont like the rules, move somewhere where the rules are more in line with your level of thinking.
 
2009-11-11 10:42:48 AM  

bighasbeen: I wore a kilt to my prom, full formal attire. I went and told the administration ahead of time, because after burning hundreds of dollars for the kilt, dinner, limo and hotel room I would be damned if they gave me any shiat at the door.farking prom. It's for the kids. If they want to bring a blow-up doll, let 'em.


How you doin?

/Sorry, had to
//has a thing for men in kilts
///going back to lurking now
 
2009-11-11 10:44:08 AM  
NightOwl2255 2009-11-11 10:41:35 AM
bodyshots: so, the majority who find shiat like this offensive should bow down to the minority who dont? yeah, fark you buddy.

your internet white knighting of a tarded out bimbo high school lesbian is disturbing. should i call pedobear now?

From troll, to asshat, to full retard in one post! Good work.


thanks, i do try so hard!

care to address the points i made, specifically, following the rules?

if she doesnt like the rules, either move or do something to get the rules changed.

i dont see why this is an issue at all.
 
2009-11-11 10:45:13 AM  

bodyshots: Russad 2009-11-11 10:34:12 AM

If her girlfriend doesn't go to that school? Pretty hard.

well, schools do have rules for a reason. dont like it? move to a different school where the rules are more in line with your level of thinking, ok?


Oh, so you are of the opinion that heterosexuals should not be allowed to bring partners from other schools?


She shouldn't have to pretend to be someone else to protect someone's precious sensibilities.

Your narrow vision of the issue is just stupid and naive

so, the majority who find shiat like this offensive should bow down to the minority who dont? yeah, fark you buddy.


I agree, equality should be based upon popular opinion. We have so many traditional values to protect from the minority. What should we start with? Women's suffrage? Miscegenation? I can't decide.
 
2009-11-11 10:45:18 AM  

Zabbadizzat: I was trying to say that the way people react when confronted wasn't right or wrong, that's just nature. Not that this situation was or wasn't.


Oh, its nature?

Ok, way back in the day before society, I bet a lot more men raped women. But it was all-natural behavior, so that means we can't call it wrong?

What a stupid argument. Natural. Bah.
 
2009-11-11 10:47:14 AM  

ttintagel: I don't remember my school having such control over what went on at the prom. It was paid for by private subscription and held off-campus. You bought your ticket and your date's ticket if you had one, and as long as you had the $$ you were in. Your date could be Godzilla as long as your money was just as green.


More schools are doing just that for several reasons, legal liability among them. But, in this case it was a school sponsored prom.
 
2009-11-11 10:48:21 AM  

bodyshots: NightOwl2255 2009-11-11 10:35:15 AM

Are you stupid? How does the "lesbian lover" get in? She can't just "meet up" with her. The girlfriend is not a student. She can't in unless she is a date of a student. Try reading sometime. It's very enlightening.

as i said to the other guy up there... dont like the rules? go to a different school that allows that shiat. or, if you insist on staying, why not try and change the rules? petition to have it allowed?.


Change the rules? Like...what this girl is trying to do?

The very thing that you decided made her a biatch who should have shut her whore mouth?

Christ, your attitude towards women points to some fabulous mommy issues.
 
Ant [TotalFark]
2009-11-11 10:51:10 AM  

Zabbadizzat: Maybe easing into it is better than shoving it into their face? People react differently when you're confrontational. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's how folks tend to work.


Never compromise with bigoted idiots.
 
2009-11-11 10:52:02 AM  

bodyshots: if she doesnt like the rules, either move or do something to get the rules changed.

i dont see why this is an issue at all.


Looks like she did get the rules changed. And rules that are unconstitutional don't need to be changed, they need to be removed.
You would have told the blacks to just get in the back of the bus and shut up.
 
2009-11-11 10:52:50 AM  
As a right wing fundy nutjob, this does not bother me one bit.

If they can take the trash talk from their peers at that age, have at it.
 
Ant [TotalFark]
2009-11-11 10:54:38 AM  

Gwendolyn: I don't think I would have had that much fun with a guy.


So you got lucky then?
 
2009-11-11 10:55:26 AM  

Ant: Never compromise


What about in the face of Armageddon?
 
2009-11-11 10:57:28 AM  
NightOwl2255 2009-11-11 10:52:02 AM

Looks like she did get the rules changed. And rules that are unconstitutional don't need to be changed, they need to be removed.
You would have told the blacks to just get in the back of the bus and shut up.


you are an idiot and probably a closet racist. comparing slavery to a high school prom? seriously? i dont know if youre serious or just playing stupid...


Russad 2009-11-11 10:48:21 AM

Change the rules? Like...what this girl is trying to do?

The very thing that you decided made her a biatch who should have shut her whore mouth?

Christ, your attitude towards women points to some fabulous mommy issues.


internet degree in psychology, i love it.

i have a problem with *attention whores*, not women.

Russad 2009-11-11 10:45:13 AM

see above.
 
2009-11-11 10:59:55 AM  

bodyshots: if she doesnt like the rules, either move or do something to get the rules changed.

i dont see why this is an issue at all.


She doesn't have to move anywhere. She already lives in the USA.
 
2009-11-11 10:59:56 AM  
i2.photobucket.com

Principal won't let you go to the prom? The only thing left to do is make videos and photo shoots and post them to the Internet! That will teach them! That will teach them ALL!
 
2009-11-11 11:01:03 AM  
bodyshots, you behavior is startling and not what I would expect from someone who farking loves Caturday SO. FARKING. MUCH.

Crazy Pants!
 
2009-11-11 11:01:52 AM  

bodyshots: internet degree in psychology, i love it.

i have a problem with *attention whores*, not women.


There's really no evidence of AW in this case. The school has a "screening process" for prom dates who don't already go to the school, so she was required to tell them who she was bringing.
 
2009-11-11 11:03:45 AM  

whammer: Principal won't let you go to the prom? The only thing left to do is make videos and photo shoots and post them to the Internet! That will teach them! That will teach them ALL!


HOORAY LESBO PIC!!
 
2009-11-11 11:05:39 AM  

bodyshots: I am an idiot with no valid points and an inability to counter the arguments presented to me.


Finally, something we can agree on.
 
2009-11-11 11:09:00 AM  

bodyshots: you are an idiot and probably a closet racist. comparing slavery to a high school prom? seriously? i dont know if youre serious or just playing stupid...


Who that fark said anything about slavery? It's called discrimination. Do you understand that discrimination is wrong? If she would have listed a black boy as her date, and they denied her permission, would you have a problem with that?
 
2009-11-11 11:10:17 AM  

kellynoel: John Paul Jones: Zabbadizzat doesn't suck at life. In fact, Even if you disagree 1000% with what he said there, he's still 500% cooler than 99% of the other farkwads out there. I'm being all serious-like now, you dig?

No. No, I do not dig.

These girls are in high school. We are supposed to be teaching them how to navigate in this world.

If you teach them that you just have to STFU and pretend that you're not who you are and then sneak around and be that, then THAT IS WHAT THEY WILL LEARN.

I would rather teach them that when something is wrong, you CHANGE IT. If it cannot be changed, by god, you FIGHT until enough people join you. If you cannot go with your girlfriend to prom, then by god, you do not go to prom and pretend not to be what you are.

Children learn what we teach them. I want to teach them to fight for justice and equity.


Okay, justice, equity, fairness, hope, change, yada yada yada.

That's all well and good, but life isn't fair. Are you also going to teach your kids how to deal with the swift kick to the crotch that comes when you do your best to fight The Man but The Man (who has The Power and The Money) wins?

/The Man has the Money, Lucas
//Damn the Man!
 
SVX
2009-11-11 11:11:30 AM  

phalamir: This is why the US can't have nice things. The South still owes us for the Civil War - just kill all of them now and improve the nation.

/and if you are one of the dozen or so who aren't complete traitorous scum, either get the fark out or acknowledge your enabler status and die with the people who hate America
//"ooh, there are bigotted assholes in other parts of the country". Yeah, but they are generally minorities, while the South is 99% toad-farkers. Eliminate them with extreme prejudice and the other scum will learn what the price for anti-Americanism is.


That comment may have been some serious trolling, and rather inelegantly put, but there's a very large part of me that thinks that whole "Civil War" thing was a gigantic mistake. Maybe we should have just let them secede, wished them the best, fortified the shiat out of the new border, and turned the south into our version of East Germany, fit for cheap labor, agriculture and the occasional vacation in Florida. Because that's how they would have ended up.

Then, when some southern redneck pulls a stunt like this, we could just sneer from the north and called him a foriegn piece of shiat redneck, instead of feeling shame and embarrassment that this asshole, and others just like him reside in the same country as the northerners.
 
2009-11-11 11:11:47 AM  

NobleHam: I don't get what the fuss is about. As my new favorite politician, George Hutchins, says:

"=> ONLY GAY MALE HOMOSEXUAL MISCONDUCT is Mentioned in the CHRISTIAN BIBLE, and the JEWISH TORAH, as a crime to be punished by DEATH.


Even then I see an alternate interpretation. You're not supposed to lie with a man like with a woman. Is that a prohibition against homosexuality or is it a prohibition against gays using the missionary position?
 
2009-11-11 11:13:01 AM  
WHAAAAAAA! I'm a stupid little coont who can't go to prom with some other fat butchy coont!
WHAAAAAAA!
 
2009-11-11 11:16:01 AM  

bodyshots: thamike 2009-11-11 10:05:50 AM

i could care less what you do


So you do care a great deal about what they do, since you could care less?
 
2009-11-11 11:23:23 AM  
Meh, feeding the troll, but...

bodyshots: if she doesnt like the rules, either move or do something to get the rules changed.


It's interesting how bigots always apply a double-standard. Discriminating against a student based on race, religion, sex, or sexual orientation is unconstitutional. It's against the rules to which the Department of Education must comply.

If this principal doesn't like these rules, he should move.

But then, I don't expect you to support rules when they prove you're a dumbass.
 
2009-11-11 11:24:00 AM  
Wow, have things tightened up for going to school functions. We didn't have a prom - exactly, but the 2 events we did have, which were both off the campus of the school, but were sponsored by them, were a ton slacker than this. You bought your ticket for yourself, or yourself and your date, and you went. No pre-approval. No worries about what sex your date was. The only thing they really cared about was that nobody show up TOO drunk (or for that matter LEAVE too drunk).

We had people dragging dates along like my brother's 26 year old friend Limpin' Larry, or somebody's cousin visiting from England, or the father of somebody's 2 year old (who lived out of town) or whatever.

We did have same sex couples attending, but mostly it was because it was cheaper per person to take 2 as a couple than 2 singles, so people would go together as dates to get a better price.

I have no idea what has happened to the "Land of the Free" in the last 25 years, but things are so much more rigid and controlled than they were in my day.

/Class of '83 - Get offa my lawn, eh?
 
2009-11-11 11:25:03 AM  
What a retard I was in high school. I went to my junior prom with my first girlfriend and had an ok time. Afterwards she wanted to go to an after party and get drunk/high, I said no and got her home by her curfew. Needless to say I was a good kid in highschool and didn't really drink or get laid for that matter. Turns out the girl was a fuc*ing whack job but this story COULD have been much better had I not been such a boy scout.

We broke up shortly after.

She slept with many fellas immediately after.

She was mormon and hid her sexual appetite from me very well.

Her vajayjay smelled like fish and she now has 4 kids.

Fark rules.
 
Ant [TotalFark]
2009-11-11 11:31:46 AM  

BesiktasBoy83: I support the teacher. The school is no situation for a young CHILD (yes, 17 is a child) to make statements she may regret when she is fully formed. I hope theyu manage to arrange a solution that brings a satisfactory conclusion to all involved. If you say 17, then why not 15, 9 etc. Her choice is not a human right or to do with fee speech eirth.


You're joking, right?
 
2009-11-11 11:35:32 AM  

Zabbadizzat: Ok, I get it, Three Crooked Squirrels. I guess that is a bit of a pecker. That isn't right. I still don't think her parents should let her put holes in her face yet, but that's neither here nor there. As long as they can't do any rub dancing like the guy/girl pairings, then I don't see where it should be a problem.


I'm curious why you think others should live up to how you think they should live? Are you willing to submit to other people telling you how to live? Have already done this by trying to conform to someone else's norm?

See you can do whatever you want with your life, and you're free to make fun of people for doing things differently than you would, but then you also have to put up with comments from other people who think you're a douche because you think you should be able to tell other people how to act.

It's a free country, and we're just as free to make fun of you as you are to make fun of other people. So thanks for sharing how you think things should be run. I, for one, still think you suck at life.

The reason I think you suck at life is because you are intolerant. You don't want to see people with piercings so they shouldn't be allowed to get em. You don't want lesbians to be able to be openly lesbian so they should have to sneak.
 
2009-11-11 11:37:58 AM  

abb3w: ...
You guys don't understand. You've already lost. The current generation doesn't care.


Are you cool because you used a big font ?
 
RSN
2009-11-11 11:39:23 AM  
This is The South, with capital letters. A lot of people don't get it. Either you're a Christian or you're not in The South (if you're openly gay you don't get to be Christian btw)... I taught at a school in Southern Appalachia with a rule against "displays against public affection," that was only enforced when homosexual couples kissed in the hallways. Can't say this is much of a surprise at all and I have to commend this girl for standing up for herself. That takes some serious cahones. Anyone with a religious argument about what should or shouldn't happen in public institutions should look up the word "separation," as in "separation of church and state."
 
MBK
2009-11-11 11:41:48 AM  
God, there are a lot of bigots in this thread.

School should be sued for discrimination. Principal should be fired. The South should be nuked from orbit.
 
Ant [TotalFark]
2009-11-11 11:42:45 AM  

RSN: Anyone with a religious argument about what should or shouldn't happen in public institutions should look up the word "separation," as in "separation of church and state."


They claim it doesn't exist.
 
2009-11-11 11:44:04 AM  
Before attacking my post, please note that although I am not trolling, I am making certain assumptions based on the article and past experiences that may or not be valid in this case.

I suspect that this student is using her sexual orientation as a shield to protect herself from the consequences of her disruptive behavior. To my mind, when she chose to wear the "I'm a lesbian" sticker, she knew it would be disruptive, controversial, and deliberately provocative. In fact, I'm willing to bet that she was trying to provoke exactly this kind of reaction when she wore the sticker and then "asked" the principal for permission. It wouldn't surprise me if the request was really more of a declaration of intent with the primary purpose of forcing the principal's hand. Like many young people she probably sees most adult authority figures as arbitrary, hidebound, and completely out of touch with reality. While this is certainly true in some cases, more often it is the youth who doesn't have the degree of knowledge and life experience to understand the adult's reasoning. In making any inappropriate behavior on her part a sexual orientation issue, she has gained both sympathy and protection from her own actions. But being a lesbian does not give you permission to behave badly.

HOWEVER... even if what I said is 100% accurate (an iffy assumption at best), the principal has handled this entirely wrong. First, and let me make this perfectly clear to people who hate my earlier response: This girl should have the legal right to bring her girlfriend to the prom. Second, if her behavior was a problem, he should have handled it as much as possible without reference to her sexual orientation. This undermines his case and just gives her the support and attention she wants. Of course, this is again assuming that her behavior was actually inappropriate. Finally, his threat to cancel the event was simply the move of a man desperately trying to retain his power for the sake of retaining power; an obvious ploy which undermines his position further.

To sum up, I suspect this student has brought some of her problems onto herself, and is trying to use her orientation to avoid the consequences. Well, that's a high school student for you. But on the other side, the principal seems to have handled it badly from the beginning, and deserves the situation her find himself in now.

It's important to remember that schools have more legal restrictions on what they can and cannot say to the press at this stage of a case. Undoubtedly we are hearing more of the the student's slant than the school's. While it is possible that the principal is simply a bigoted dictator, I suspect there is more to the situation than we are hearing about. Nevertheless, from the information we have, I am inclined to side with the student on this: just let her bring her girlfriend to the prom.
 
2009-11-11 11:46:04 AM  

BesiktasBoy83: Okay, saw the picture now it wouldn't load before. She is very unattractive, lots of lesbains seem to be. I find it most strange that they love women so they dress like a man! wtf? Same with homosexuals they seem to love men but then they act like a girl - clothes/voice etc.


I don't dress or act like a girl.

mini_martin: If God wanted gay's he would have made Adam and Steve not Adam and Eve


Shhhh ... grown-ups are talking.
 
2009-11-11 11:47:29 AM  

MBK: God, there are a lot of bigots in this thread.

School should be sued for discrimination. Principal should be fired. The South should be nuked from orbit.


Only way to be sure?

/A little concerned about fall out.
 
2009-11-11 11:48:12 AM  
kellynoel

Congratulations on being the first person added to my favorite list!
 
2009-11-11 11:48:27 AM  

MBK: God, there are a lot of bigots in this thread.

School should be sued for discrimination. Principal should be fired. The South should be nuked from orbit.


Funny. We don't say the same about the north...but we're thinking it. We. Are. Thinking. It.

/I take that back, I have a warm spot in my TEXAN heart for Philly Cheese steaks.
 
2009-11-11 11:58:14 AM  

bodyshots: NightOwl2255 2009-11-11 10:41:35 AM
bodyshots: so, the majority who find shiat like this offensive should bow down to the minority who dont? yeah, fark you buddy.

your internet white knighting of a tarded out bimbo high school lesbian is disturbing. should i call pedobear now?

From troll, to asshat, to full retard in one post! Good work.

thanks, i do try so hard!

care to address the points i made, specifically, following the rules?

if she doesnt like the rules, either move or do something to get the rules changed.

i dont see why this is an issue at all.


I'll contribute to feeding the troll.

You usually don't get to decide which school you go to. It's based on where you live.

I don't think that Parental Guardians would be willing to
a.) locate a new house in the next school district over, or since similar beliefs are held by neighboring principals, a different state
ai.) locate new jobs if the move is sufficiently distant
b.) buy and pay for the new house
c.) move to the new house
d.) sell old house

just because "that is a mean teacher!" I'm pretty sure my mom shot that down a couple times when I biatched about my HS math teacher being a douche.
 
2009-11-11 12:02:45 PM  
Wasn't this bullshiat settled, like, almost 30 years ago? (new window)

/Seriously, Alabama, time to join to 20th century, never mind the 21st
 
2009-11-11 12:09:20 PM  

Epsilon: NicoFinn: Like you would know. You hardly ever leave the house, IIRC. Why don't you try getting out and meeting a few people from those states. Maybe you'd see that life isn't only what's reported in the news.

I'm related to some of those people, farkface. My father's entire family is from Georgia. Most of them still live there and they're all bigoted assholes. Not even my dad can stand them anymore.

He and my mom visited his relatives recently and were abhorred at their racism and lack of general decorum. My mom swore she would never go back to Georgia.

Next question?


The most closed minded, bigoted person I know lives in NY state and has never been south of Ohio. Are there bigots where I live? Sure, though a surprising number of them fit into one of two categories. 1) They biatch about things and keep to themselves on the porch of their trailer 2) Get their rocks off by getting on school boards because it's the only public office to which they can be elected by getting out the vote from their redneck family and church.

/live 30 miles north of incident in tfa
 
2009-11-11 12:10:24 PM  
Same way in Paris, TN. Last year my soph. daughters senior female friend wanted to take her to the Prom, not as announced lesbians but just so they could go together... Paris, TN has a strict "no same sex couples" policy for all school activities; a girl caught holding hands with another girl received 15 days of alternative school a few weeks ago.
Meanwhile, in a town of 17,000, TWO (2) teachers have been sent up the river for sexual misconduct with a child since the school year started.
 
2009-11-11 12:18:20 PM  
It is INCREDIBLE that this dipshiat would think that it's ok to disallow 2 women to attend prom together.

Now, I would have done the same thing, but only because this chic is hella-ugly..... and has a bunch of shiat in her face.
 
2009-11-11 12:20:09 PM  
img.photobucket.com

/with misspelling goodness
 
2009-11-11 12:22:04 PM  
Anyone who thinks its a North/South thing needs to get out of Mom's basement and do a little traveling.

It is an urban/rural thing.
 
2009-11-11 12:22:12 PM  

MagusAzod: Before attacking my post, please note that although I am not trolling, I am making certain assumptions based on the article and past experiences that may or not be valid in this case.

I suspect that this student is using her sexual orientation as a shield to protect herself from the consequences of her disruptive behavior. To my mind, when she chose to wear the "I'm a lesbian" sticker, she knew it would be disruptive, controversial, and deliberately provocative. In fact, I'm willing to bet that she was trying to provoke exactly this kind of reaction when she wore the sticker and then "asked" the principal for permission. It wouldn't surprise me if the request was really more of a declaration of intent with the primary purpose of forcing the principal's hand.


She was required to submit information about her date for a screening process. Also, she was on the prom's planning committee and was the person who came up with the theme for it this year. So I doubt she's trying to do anything other than have a good time at an event that is very important to her.
 
2009-11-11 12:29:14 PM  

Zabbadizzat: Did black and white dates just show up to prom and expect everyone to accept it? Probably not. Not a good idea at the time, could've got someone killed. Folks worked into it.

Should black and white dates be allowed at prom? Absolutely.

Should lesbians be allowed at prom? Absolutely.

Is lesbian couples going to the papers and getting the ACLU to get into people's faces who think it's wrong going to fix things? Probably not.

Going at it at an angle would be a better approach. That's all I mean.

Now get bent y'all hippies.


Your post was cut off - it left out the part where you actually made a suggestion that would be this "angle" you mentioned...
 
2009-11-11 12:30:14 PM  

nibls66: What a retard I was in high school. I went to my junior prom with my first girlfriend and had an ok time. Afterwards she wanted to go to an after party and get drunk/high, I said no and got her home by her curfew. Needless to say I was a good kid in highschool and didn't really drink or get laid for that matter. Turns out the girl was a fuc*ing whack job but this story COULD have been much better had I not been such a boy scout.

We broke up shortly after.

She slept with many fellas immediately after.

She was mormon and hid her sexual appetite from me very well.

Her vajayjay smelled like fish and she now has 4 kids.

Fark rules.


How did you know what her genitals smelled like if you were such a Boy Scout with her?
 
2009-11-11 12:34:57 PM  
I bet her ass smells like a godamb cheeseburger.
 
2009-11-11 12:34:59 PM  

Zabbadizzat: So don't go to prom. I knew gals that showed up with other gals at prom and no one gave a shiat. I don't think any of them announced themselves as lesbians or if they were. She wants it announced or something or is trying to prove a point, who knows? If she had just showed up with a ticket with her partner, I doubt anyone would've said shiat. If I had gone to my principal and asked him if I could show up to prom wearing a Dead Kennedys tee, he would've said no. If I just showed up with it, maybe I'd get through, maybe I wouldn't, whatever. Is she really set on going to prom or just playing it up? And besides that, who in the hell lets their kid get holes pierced in their face?


oh look, someone else who spews out a bunch of irrelevant shiat

Get a goddamn clue.

You have to preregister your date in about every district now, and that is often done by the dean or principle's office.
 
2009-11-11 12:39:02 PM  
I would just like to point out that all of you who suggest that the South is full of ignorant, bigoted fundies are NO MORE TOLERANT than the fundies about whom you complain.

I am from the south. I eat grits and wouldn't think of drinking a Pepsi. Every once in a while, if I get all worked up, a "y'all" sneaks out of my mouth.

Despite all of those "flaws," I am well aware that it is never okay to discriminate against someone because of his or her color, religious affiliation, sexual preference or...get this...region of origin.

In summary, bite me.
 
2009-11-11 12:41:54 PM  
Her mistake was that her girlfriend is a human. If she wanted to bring a sheep or goat of either sex it would have been OK.
 
2009-11-11 12:46:43 PM  
img201.imagevenue.com
 
2009-11-11 12:47:06 PM  

cchris_39: As a right wing fundy nutjob, this does not bother me one bit.

If they can take the trash talk from their peers at that age, have at it.


Is that how you taught your kids to behave?

What does this say about your qualifications as a parent?
 
2009-11-11 12:57:32 PM  

ursomniac: cchris_39: As a right wing fundy nutjob, this does not bother me one bit.

If they can take the trash talk from their peers at that age, have at it.

Is that how you taught your kids to behave?

What does this say about your qualifications as a parent?


That I'm not raising pussies.

/And you obviously do not have teenagers.
 
2009-11-11 12:57:37 PM  
ITT: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls
 
2009-11-11 01:02:43 PM  
High School lesbian thread and there's only 2 pics of girls making out so far? What happened to the Fark I fell in love with?

I'll do my part:

bucketocrap.com

/Hot (new window)
 
2009-11-11 01:07:03 PM  
I looked at the picture of the lesbian and it made me think of the discussion I had with my husband at lunch today.

Okay, question... so you're a lesbian, why do you get with women who look like men?! I just can't understand this.

I supposed I would be called a lipstick lesbian?!

/hooray for lesbian discussions
 
2009-11-11 01:10:14 PM  

ElusiveKismet: I supposed I would be called a lipstick lesbian?!


Does your husband know about this?
 
2009-11-11 01:19:00 PM  

RevBigfoot: ElusiveKismet: I supposed I would be called a lipstick lesbian?!

Does your husband know about this?


Well, he knows if I were ever to be a lesbian I would be with a woman who LOOKS like a woman.

So, since I still like penis... well... I'll get keep my hubby lol
 
2009-11-11 01:24:02 PM  

Oh_Enough_Already: Which is ironic as the most manly bull-dyke butch lesbos are almost always invariably the most misandrist male-hating ones as, oftentimes, their lesbianism is a political statement more than a bonafide sexual attraction.

Yet, nonetheless, they ironically adopt the personae and appearance of the very people they despise the most.

Sounds to me like a case of the "lady" doth protest too much.

At some point they were likely raped or otherwise sexually abused by a man and because they didn't hate it as much as they were taught that they should have something snaps in their psyche and they become their very assailant because their innate and natural sexual attraction to men is irrevocably tainted by this encounter.

Sexual Stockholm syndrome in a nutshell.


Hmmmm, thank you for breaking it down for me. I need to read up on Sexual Stockholm, would this go on to include a woman who was raped and now is a dominatrix?
 
2009-11-11 01:24:06 PM  

kellynoel: would like to attend the prom as a rite of passage and a mark of coupledom like every heterosexual couple since the dawn of time.


I hear those stone-age proms really rocked.
 
2009-11-11 01:27:48 PM  
Homosexuality is a Learned Behaviour.
 
2009-11-11 01:28:48 PM  
I'm bothered by the argument that gay kids just need to keep it to themselves. While as a short term practical matter they should have the option to do that, and it's probably a good skill to learn (gotta learn how to suck up to authority in order to be employable), it still strikes me as wrong.

Had I actually found a date for my high school prom, I would have been ecstatic, and I would have shown her off as often as I could have. After all, I was a teenage guy, and I hadn't had any real success with girls at that age.

But why should I get the right to have a happy time with someone of the sex to which I am attracted when someone else doesn't, just by accident of birth? Had I put in the effort to learn how to attract girls back then, I should have benefited, and the same should go to some lesbian girl today. After years of watching movies about how teenage first love is supposed to be a wonderful, romantic, memorable thing that people still look back on in their golden years, why deny it to people through no fault of their own?
 
2009-11-11 01:37:35 PM  

improvius: MagusAzod: Before attacking my post, please note that although I am not trolling, I am making certain assumptions based on the article and past experiences that may or not be valid in this case.

I suspect that this student is using her sexual orientation as a shield to protect herself from the consequences of her disruptive behavior. To my mind, when she chose to wear the "I'm a lesbian" sticker, she knew it would be disruptive, controversial, and deliberately provocative. In fact, I'm willing to bet that she was trying to provoke exactly this kind of reaction when she wore the sticker and then "asked" the principal for permission. It wouldn't surprise me if the request was really more of a declaration of intent with the primary purpose of forcing the principal's hand.

She was required to submit information about her date for a screening process. Also, she was on the prom's planning committee and was the person who came up with the theme for it this year. So I doubt she's trying to do anything other than have a good time at an event that is very important to her.


Valid points, but my guess was that this was not an isolated incident. Based on what I've read (and can make reasonable suppositions about based on that information), I suspect that there is a pattern of provocation and flouting even the more reasonable rules, probably in the name of her sexual orientation. That's not to say that the principal is right - I don't believe he is - but there is a serious lack of perspective about this situation.

Forget the knee-jerk reactions, based on her perspective only, that the principal *must* be 100% at fault, and she *must* be 100% innocent. I concede that that is a possibility (in fact, prejudice is likely a factor to be willing to go to such extreme measures), but in the real world, such black and white answers are just not very likely.
 
2009-11-11 01:38:50 PM  

Oh_Enough_Already: At some point they were likely raped or otherwise sexually abused by a man and because they didn't hate it as much as they were taught that they should have something snaps in their psyche and they become their very assailant because their innate and natural sexual attraction to men is irrevocably tainted by this encounter.


Yeah. I cried while I was being raped, but secretly, it was awesome.

Are you farking kidding me?
 
2009-11-11 01:40:08 PM  

MagusAzod: she *must* be 100% innocent.


Innocent of WHAT, exactly?
 
2009-11-11 01:41:10 PM  
kellynoel: Yeah. I cried while I was being raped, but secretly, it was awesome.

FAP FAP FAP
 
2009-11-11 01:43:41 PM  

Oh_Enough_Already: Unless you're now a bulldyke lesbian this really isn't applicable to you now, is it?


You're saying that X causes Y. I endured X and did not become Y. So, yes, I would say it is applicable in as much as completely debunking your "theory."
 
2009-11-11 01:44:02 PM  
Lesbians!

/Can I watch?
 
2009-11-11 01:46:12 PM  

kellynoel: Oh_Enough_Already: At some point they were likely raped or otherwise sexually abused by a man and because they didn't hate it as much as they were taught that they should have something snaps in their psyche and they become their very assailant because their innate and natural sexual attraction to men is irrevocably tainted by this encounter.

Yeah. I cried while I was being raped, but secretly, it was awesome.

Are you farking kidding me?


I'll be in my bunk.
 
2009-11-11 01:47:53 PM  

kellynoel: MagusAzod: she *must* be 100% innocent.

Innocent of WHAT, exactly?


Go back and read my previous posts.
 
2009-11-11 01:54:56 PM  

MagusAzod: improvius: MagusAzod: Before attacking my post, please note that although I am not trolling, I am making certain assumptions based on the article and past experiences that may or not be valid in this case.

I suspect that this student is using her sexual orientation as a shield to protect herself from the consequences of her disruptive behavior. To my mind, when she chose to wear the "I'm a lesbian" sticker, she knew it would be disruptive, controversial, and deliberately provocative. In fact, I'm willing to bet that she was trying to provoke exactly this kind of reaction when she wore the sticker and then "asked" the principal for permission. It wouldn't surprise me if the request was really more of a declaration of intent with the primary purpose of forcing the principal's hand.

She was required to submit information about her date for a screening process. Also, she was on the prom's planning committee and was the person who came up with the theme for it this year. So I doubt she's trying to do anything other than have a good time at an event that is very important to her.

Valid points, but my guess was that this was not an isolated incident. Based on what I've read (and can make reasonable suppositions about based on that information), I suspect that there is a pattern of provocation and flouting even the more reasonable rules, probably in the name of her sexual orientation. That's not to say that the principal is right - I don't believe he is - but there is a serious lack of perspective about this situation.

Forget the knee-jerk reactions, based on her perspective only, that the principal *must* be 100% at fault, and she *must* be 100% innocent. I concede that that is a possibility (in fact, prejudice is likely a factor to be willing to go to such extreme measures), but in the real world, such black and white answers are just not very likely.


The problem I have with your position is that being openly gay shouldn't be considered "disruptive behavior" to begin with. The principal's hand isn't being "forced". He decided that this girl showing up to the prom with her girlfriend means maybe no one deserves a prom at all. Who is supposed to be the adult here, setting an example for these kids?
 
2009-11-11 01:55:50 PM  

Oh_Enough_Already: I never intimated it was THE default reaction to those who've suffered sexual assaults, merely an explanation for the otherwise baffling decision of male-hating lesbians to do everything in their power to become, absent perhaps for the plumbing, men.


I'm sure they regret that they don't fit into your little gender boxes. I hope you don't cross your legs at the knee or use gel in your hair; otherwise, you're basically a chick with a penis.
 
2009-11-11 02:02:48 PM  

kellynoel: I would just like to point out that all of you who suggest that the South is full of ignorant, bigoted fundies are NO MORE TOLERANT than the fundies about whom you complain.

I am from the south. I eat grits and wouldn't think of drinking a Pepsi. Every once in a while, if I get all worked up, a "y'all" sneaks out of my mouth.

Despite all of those "flaws," I am well aware that it is never okay to discriminate against someone because of his or her color, religious affiliation, sexual preference or...get this...region of origin.

In summary, bite me.


True, even if I have serious doubts about grits being a food.

These negative incidents always seem to happen in small towns. Sometimes people forget that the south and southwest have urban areas, too, and that not all small towns are like that.

Houston is about to elect an openly lesbian mayor (election now in a runoff, but she got the most votes this month). What will the "everyone south of Pennsylvania is a bigot" crowd say to that, I wonder?
 
2009-11-11 02:04:00 PM  

BesiktasBoy83: I support the teacher. The school is no situation for a young CHILD (yes, 17 is a child) to make statements she may regret when she is fully formed. I hope theyu manage to arrange a solution that brings a satisfactory conclusion to all involved. If you say 17, then why not 15, 9 etc. Her choice is not a human right or to do with fee speech eirth.


Many people are sexually active through their early teens. It's called puberty. (It happens between 9 and 15, get it?) If you don't know that, you need to put down the Coleco Vision and get outside.

/What's "fee speech eirth?"
//You sound like a Welshman
 
2009-11-11 02:13:05 PM  

Zabbadizzat: I'm not wishy washy on it, I know what I think. I haven't said anything different. Now keep trying to bash your ideas onto others and see how well it works.


Your argument seems to be: "She's a dirty attention whore with those piercings and that 'I'M A LESBIAAAAAN!' act and if she'd just keep her head down and be quiet she could enjoy a hidden secret love that no one approved of and could be exposed at any moment because weird people don't get the same rights as normal people and that's just the way it is even if it is wrong."

Problems: It's her right to be an attention whore, as proud of her "catch" and prom date as the cheerleader bangin' the star quarterback and the low self-esteem nerd girl who landed a guy on varsity and "all she had to do was give him anal." It's her right to go on a date and go to prom with the person she loves, (assuming any high school prom date *is* "love"). Finally, the "Catch more flies with honey than with vinegar," theory of fighting for equal rights only gets so far. Miscegenation laws (and the like) didn't end because all the "race traitors" and "uppity blacks" kept their heads down and avoided confrontations, it ended because of marches, petitions, court orders, and all sorts of other loud, noisy, "you cannot just ignore me" political processes.

And any opportunity to post these:

i75.photobucket.com
i75.photobucket.com
is a good one.
 
2009-11-11 02:14:41 PM  
ElusiveKismet: I looked at the picture of the lesbian and it made me think of the discussion I had with my husband at lunch today.

Okay, question... so you're a lesbian, why do you get with women who look like men?! I just can't understand this.


Short answer: They don't feel feminine, so they don't dress or act feminine.
 
2009-11-11 02:15:14 PM  
Fer farks sake, all the First Amendment says is that "Congress shall make no law ..."

Congress, as in the government.

Morons.
 
2009-11-11 02:15:35 PM  
Perhaps general identity disorder, not Stockholm, when referring to lesbians who dress/act like men?!

Learn something new every day.

And do people honestly people "homosexuality" rubs off from one person to another? If the children's parents paid taxes, like the rest of the children's parents, why can't they enjoy the same events as everyone else?
 
2009-11-11 02:16:57 PM  

gorgor: kellynoel: Yeah. I cried while I was being raped, but secretly, it was awesome.

FAP FAP FAP


Oh joy! Gorgor's in the thread!

FAP FAP FAP
 
2009-11-11 02:20:02 PM  

Oh_Enough_Already: Yeah, because a guy with some gel in his har crossing his legs is EXACTLY the same as THIS:


That looks more like two fat people on a motorcycle.
 
2009-11-11 02:22:15 PM  
TheBigJerk: gorgor: kellynoel: Yeah. I cried while I was being raped, but secretly, it was awesome.

FAP FAP FAP

Oh joy! Gorgor's in the thread!

FAP FAP FAP


FAP FAP FAP
http://tinyurl.com/ygdgdl4
(copy and paste)
 
2009-11-11 02:23:26 PM  

The Icelander: ElusiveKismet: I looked at the picture of the lesbian and it made me think of the discussion I had with my husband at lunch today.

Okay, question... so you're a lesbian, why do you get with women who look like men?! I just can't understand this.

Short answer: They don't feel feminine, so they don't dress or act feminine.


Understood, complies with GID.

Guess that also answers why I "would" feel attracted to a very feminine woman.
 
2009-11-11 02:25:00 PM  

gorgor: TheBigJerk: gorgor: kellynoel: Yeah. I cried while I was being raped, but secretly, it was awesome.

FAP FAP FAP

Oh joy! Gorgor's in the thread!

FAP FAP FAP

FAP FAP FAP
http://tinyurl.com/ygdgdl4
(copy and paste)


ROFLMAO
 
2009-11-11 02:25:42 PM  

BigChad: Fer farks sake, all the First Amendment says is that "Congress shall make no law ..."

Congress, as in the government.

Morons.


Except for that thing called the Fourteenth Amendment.
 
2009-11-11 02:26:27 PM  

BigChad: Fer farks sake, all the First Amendment says is that "Congress shall make no law ..."

Congress, as in the government.

Morons.


Public school. The Fourteenth Amendment takes the 1st Amendment local. Also, see Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District. It all falls under the 1st Amendment.
 
2009-11-11 02:27:16 PM  

Oh_Enough_Already: FTFY


So what's your point?
 
2009-11-11 02:28:36 PM  

Russad: The problem I have with your position is that being openly gay shouldn't be considered "disruptive behavior" to begin with. The principal's hand isn't being "forced". He decided that this girl showing up to the prom with her girlfriend means maybe no one deserves a prom at all. Who is supposed to be the adult here, setting an example for these kids?


I realize this is a emotional issue. Let me clarify: I am questioning her judgment, not her rights. I have to question why she chose to wear a button stating her sexual orientation at all. My opinion (subject to change if I get more information) is that she has been deliberately trying to provoke a reaction from her peers and the school authorities (look at the reaction she's getting in this thread). I sincerely doubt that these two occasions are the only incidents she has been involved it. Besides, just because something is legal, doesn't mean its a good idea.

Look, I said at the beginning that this is all speculation. I don't know all the facts any better than you or anyone else here. But I have past experiences to work with. *Usually* you will see a pattern of behavior in situations like this. But, even if there is a pattern of serious disruption (whether related to her sexual orientation or not), this still doesn't make the principal right - if you've been reading my posts you know that I think he was in the wrong.

It's easy to pigeon-hole this principal based on this article. As I stated before, I would assume that prejudice played a role in this situation. It could be that it was the *only* motivator. But, based on the small bits of information we have and applying an understanding of the behavior of children and teens in general, I think it is likely that this student has - in actions not referenced in the article - played up her orientation to the point where is *has* become disruptive. It doesn't make her orientation wrong; and doesn't make the principal right; but it should at least be considered as a possibility before convening the lynch mob.
 
2009-11-11 02:33:40 PM  

RSN: Anyone with a religious argument about what should or shouldn't happen in public institutions should look up the word "separation," as in "separation of church and state."


Take your own advice. People that hold the "seperation of church and state" mantra close to their heart are ignorant of the context in which it was used by Jefferson, ignorant of the founders intent of the first amendment, and the bigots that brought it in to popular judicial use.
 
2009-11-11 02:34:40 PM  

MagusAzod: I have to question why she chose to wear a button stating her sexual orientation at all.


What? I missed anything about a button. Was that in another article or something?
 
2009-11-11 02:34:56 PM  

Rodddxl: Take your own advice. People that hold the "seperation of church and state" mantra close to their heart are ignorant of the context in which it was used by Jefferson, ignorant of the founders intent of the first amendment, and the bigots that brought it in to popular judicial use.


Oh, do tell.
 
2009-11-11 02:36:19 PM  

improvius: What? I missed anything about a button. Was that in another article or something?


It's in there, at the beginning. Right underneath the update that says that the school changed their mind. Case closed, I guess.
 
2009-11-11 02:36:49 PM  

Russad: The principal's hand isn't being "forced". He decided that this girl showing up to the prom with her girlfriend means maybe no one deserves a prom at all. Who is supposed to be the adult here, setting an example for these kids?


I realized I didn't address the principal's behavior precisely enough in my last post.

For the record let me say again: the principal handled this poorly at best, and illegally at worst. What he did, and threatened to do was wrong and childish. However, there may have been more of a motivator than just prejudice.
 
2009-11-11 02:37:48 PM  

MagusAzod: However, there may have been more of a motivator than just prejudice.


He just might have been a dipsh*t.
 
2009-11-11 02:41:49 PM  

Oh_Enough_Already: ElusiveKismet: I looked at the picture of the lesbian and it made me think of the discussion I had with my husband at lunch today.

Okay, question... so you're a lesbian, why do you get with women who look like men?! I just can't understand this.

I supposed I would be called a lipstick lesbian?!

/hooray for lesbian discussions

Which is ironic as the most manly bull-dyke butch lesbos are almost always invariably the most misandrist male-hating ones as, oftentimes, their lesbianism is a political statement more than a bonafide sexual attraction.

Yet, nonetheless, they ironically adopt the personae and appearance of the very people they despise the most.

Sounds to me like a case of the "lady" doth protest too much.

At some point they were likely raped or otherwise sexually abused by a man and because they didn't hate it as much as they were taught that they should have something snaps in their psyche and they become their very assailant because their innate and natural sexual attraction to men is irrevocably tainted by this encounter.

Sexual Stockholm syndrome in a nutshell.


you have lots of opinions about lots of stuff i've noticed. must be nice to have life all figured out
 
2009-11-11 02:44:22 PM  

MagusAzod: My opinion (subject to change if I get more information) is that she has been deliberately trying to provoke a reaction from her peers and the school authorities (look at the reaction she's getting in this thread).


Your opinion, is based on nothing at all. The article mentions the upstanding things she has done for the school and points out that neither her, nor her girlfriend has done anything that would exclude them from the prom. The school board has already recanted and said that they will not be subject to any different screening than anyone else and will be allowed to attend.
Your opinion is based on your bigoted assumptions. I hope you don't think you are some openminded because you don't think they should be excluded, but do think they are unruly attention whores; since the only evidence you have for your conclusion is that they are gay and want to go to the prom as a couple, a gay couple, that doesn't have to hide.

Why can't she just shut up and be gay in private? Otherwise, she is a troublemaking attention whore!

Bigot.
 
2009-11-11 02:45:25 PM  

MagusAzod: Russad: The problem I have with your position is that being openly gay shouldn't be considered "disruptive behavior" to begin with. The principal's hand isn't being "forced". He decided that this girl showing up to the prom with her girlfriend means maybe no one deserves a prom at all. Who is supposed to be the adult here, setting an example for these kids?

I realize this is a emotional issue. Let me clarify: I am questioning her judgment, not her rights. I have to question why she chose to wear a button stating her sexual orientation at all. My opinion (subject to change if I get more information) is that she has been deliberately trying to provoke a reaction from her peers and the school authorities (look at the reaction she's getting in this thread). I sincerely doubt that these two occasions are the only incidents she has been involved it. Besides, just because something is legal, doesn't mean its a good idea.

Look, I said at the beginning that this is all speculation. I don't know all the facts any better than you or anyone else here. But I have past experiences to work with. *Usually* you will see a pattern of behavior in situations like this. But, even if there is a pattern of serious disruption (whether related to her sexual orientation or not), this still doesn't make the principal right - if you've been reading my posts you know that I think he was in the wrong.

It's easy to pigeon-hole this principal based on this article. As I stated before, I would assume that prejudice played a role in this situation. It could be that it was the *only* motivator. But, based on the small bits of information we have and applying an understanding of the behavior of children and teens in general, I think it is likely that this student has - in actions not referenced in the article - played up her orientation to the point where is *has* become disruptive. It doesn't make her orientation wrong; and doesn't make the principal right; but it should at least be considered as a possibility before convening the lynch mob.


I don't care how disruptive her behavior may have been (based completely on speculation) in the past. The principal's reaction was "if this girl gets to go to prom with her girlfriend, the whole thing is off". That will encourage other students to anger, ridicule, retribution and possibly even violence, against this student. The responsible parties at these schools should not be encouraging that.

I will also say that, based on personal experiences of my own, children like this - the ones involved in school activities - were the least likely to be disruptive.

At any rate, even if you are correct and she has a history of this sort of thing the adults should not be fool enough to take the bait.
 
2009-11-11 02:45:34 PM  

Pathman: you have lots of opinions about lots of stuff i've noticed. must be nice to have life all figured out


He also paraphrases Shakespeare out of context and completely misinterpreted. He probably doesn't even know it's Shakespeare.
 
2009-11-11 02:48:56 PM  

MagusAzod: Russad: The problem I have with your position is that being openly gay shouldn't be considered "disruptive behavior" to begin with. The principal's hand isn't being "forced". He decided that this girl showing up to the prom with her girlfriend means maybe no one deserves a prom at all. Who is supposed to be the adult here, setting an example for these kids?

I realize this is a emotional issue. Let me clarify: I am questioning her judgment, not her rights. I have to question why she chose to wear a button stating her sexual orientation at all. My opinion (subject to change if I get more information) is that she has been deliberately trying to provoke a reaction from her peers and the school authorities (look at the reaction she's getting in this thread). I sincerely doubt that these two occasions are the only incidents she has been involved it. Besides, just because something is legal, doesn't mean its a good idea.

Look, I said at the beginning that this is all speculation. I don't know all the facts any better than you or anyone else here. But I have past experiences to work with. *Usually* you will see a pattern of behavior in situations like this. But, even if there is a pattern of serious disruption (whether related to her sexual orientation or not), this still doesn't make the principal right - if you've been reading my posts you know that I think he was in the wrong.

It's easy to pigeon-hole this principal based on this article. As I stated before, I would assume that prejudice played a role in this situation. It could be that it was the *only* motivator. But, based on the small bits of information we have and applying an understanding of the behavior of children and teens in general, I think it is likely that this student has - in actions not referenced in the article - played up her orientation to the point where is *has* become disruptive. It doesn't make her orientation wrong; and doesn't make the principal right; but it should at least be considered as a possibility before convening the lynch mob.


First about the button, IMO its the same as if I wear my (geek) (/geek) shirt, just expessing who I am and whatnot. Second, even if she intended to raise a stink the way I see it is you have to pick your battles. In this instance the battle is easily won, the law is on the girls side so why not make a big deal about it and win one.
 
2009-11-11 02:51:13 PM  

MagusAzod: For the record let me say again: the principal handled this poorly at best, and illegally at worst. What he did, and threatened to do was wrong and childish. However, there may have been more of a motivator than just prejudice.


Didn't see this before I posted the other one. D'oh!

The point of your initial post seemed to be "the principal screwed up, but this girl might have deserved it and maybe we shouldn't judge him so harshly".

My point is that he deserves all the negative judgment he gets. He's supposed to be the adult, he's supposed to be in charge here. His actions should be held to a higher standard. If he can't handle the pressure of children, maybe he shouldn't be a principal?
 
2009-11-11 03:05:19 PM  

MagusAzod: Russad: The problem I have with your position is that being openly gay shouldn't be considered "disruptive behavior" to begin with. The principal's hand isn't being "forced". He decided that this girl showing up to the prom with her girlfriend means maybe no one deserves a prom at all. Who is supposed to be the adult here, setting an example for these kids?

I realize this is a emotional issue. Let me clarify: I am questioning her judgment, not her rights. I have to question why she chose to wear a button stating her sexual orientation at all. My opinion (subject to change if I get more information) is that she has been deliberately trying to provoke a reaction from her peers and the school authorities (look at the reaction she's getting in this thread). I sincerely doubt that these two occasions are the only incidents she has been involved it. Besides, just because something is legal, doesn't mean its a good idea.

Look, I said at the beginning that this is all speculation. I don't know all the facts any better than you or anyone else here. But I have past experiences to work with. *Usually* you will see a pattern of behavior in situations like this. But, even if there is a pattern of serious disruption (whether related to her sexual orientation or not), this still doesn't make the principal right - if you've been reading my posts you know that I think he was in the wrong.

It's easy to pigeon-hole this principal based on this article. As I stated before, I would assume that prejudice played a role in this situation. It could be that it was the *only* motivator. But, based on the small bits of information we have and applying an understanding of the behavior of children and teens in general, I think it is likely that this student has - in actions not referenced in the article - played up her orientation to the point where is *has* become disruptive. It doesn't make her orientation wrong; and doesn't make the principal right; but it should at least be considered as a possibility before convening the lynch mob.


Of course it's to get a reaction. But so what? Isn't that the purpose of speech? John Tinker, his sister and friend wore black armbands to school in direct defiance of a school board rule specifically prohibiting them. The Supreme Court stated unequivocally that it was their right to do so.
 
2009-11-11 03:09:51 PM  
Sigh, when did this turn into a full blown therapy session!?
 
2009-11-11 03:10:46 PM  

pestluvr: DazedCouple: Follow up

"We're going to screen dates anyway, but we do that for anybody. If her date passes, she comes."

Well, someone's quite optimistic about prom night...


Now that made me LOL!
 
2009-11-11 03:15:55 PM  
Why anyone would discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation is a mystery to me. What's the big deal?

/Brother gay
//Wife bi
///just don't understand.
////So much hate.
 
2009-11-11 03:18:20 PM  
I approve of lesbians at the prom if both chicks are hot!
 
2009-11-11 03:22:14 PM  

ttintagel: nibls66: What a retard I was in high school. I went to my junior prom with my first girlfriend and had an ok time. Afterwards she wanted to go to an after party and get drunk/high, I said no and got her home by her curfew. Needless to say I was a good kid in highschool and didn't really drink or get laid for that matter. Turns out the girl was a fuc*ing whack job but this story COULD have been much better had I not been such a boy scout.

We broke up shortly after.

She slept with many fellas immediately after.

She was mormon and hid her sexual appetite from me very well.

Her vajayjay smelled like fish and she now has 4 kids.

Fark rules.

How did you know what her genitals smelled like if you were such a Boy Scout with her?


Boy scouts are allowed to get to 3rd base. Just no farking allowed.
 
2009-11-11 03:33:38 PM  

Kimpak: Altourus: I don't get the issue a lot of girls brought their friends as dates to my school, and it was part of the Catholic school board. Granted none of them were actually lesbians to my knowledge, regardless seems like she shouldn't have said anything.

But this would be hideing. Sure, maybe hiding in plain sight, but hideing none-the-less. I belive these issues should be tackled, not swept under the rug.


Not really, that would be handling the situation like it was completely normal. Drawing attention to it and making a big deal about it causes it no longer to be normal.
 
2009-11-11 03:44:09 PM  

Altourus: Not really, that would be handling the situation like it was completely normal. Drawing attention to it and making a big deal about it causes it no longer to be normal.


I assume you're directing this criticism at the principal.
 
2009-11-11 03:46:00 PM  

ElusiveKismet: I looked at the picture of the lesbian and it made me think of the discussion I had with my husband at lunch today.

Okay, question... so you're a lesbian, why do you get with women who look like men?! I just can't understand this.

I supposed I would be called a lipstick lesbian?!

/hooray for lesbian discussions


Because there is variation in tastes among individuals? Most people have some kind of "type" they're attracted to. Why would you or wouldn't you be attracted to someone who has a tattoo/has long hair/has skinny legs/limps/wears glasses instead of contacts/has a high-pitched voice/tap dances? IDIC, baby.
 
2009-11-11 03:48:51 PM  

zinny: Why anyone would discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation is a mystery to me. What's the big deal?

/Brother gay
//Wife bi
///just don't understand.
////So much hate.


I don't get it either.

/I think my dog's gay, in a playful castrato sort of way
 
2009-11-11 03:55:50 PM  

thamike: /I think my dog's gay, in a playful castrato sort of way


My parents have a homo dog. He's awesome.
 
2009-11-11 04:04:59 PM  

kellynoel: homo dog


Homo Dog (possibly NSFW)
 
2009-11-11 04:05:15 PM  

letrole: Homosexuality is a Learned Behaviour.


No it's not. It is actually a birth defect.

Lipstick Lesbos, the kind one may see in pics or vids, are doing it for cash.
WTF is gonna buy into the vermont birkenstock hairy leg and armpit croud for adult entertainment?
True lesbos look just like this beastie.
I don't believe this example had to actually tell anyone she was a dike.
 
2009-11-11 04:06:13 PM  

ilgallo: letrole: Homosexuality is a Learned Behaviour.

No it's not. It is actually a birth defect.


It's neither.
 
2009-11-11 04:24:35 PM  

Gonzee: MagusAzod: My opinion (subject to change if I get more information) is that she has been deliberately trying to provoke a reaction from her peers and the school authorities (look at the reaction she's getting in this thread).

Your opinion, is based on nothing at all. The article mentions the upstanding things she has done for the school and points out that neither her, nor her girlfriend has done anything that would exclude them from the prom. The school board has already recanted and said that they will not be subject to any different screening than anyone else and will be allowed to attend.
Your opinion is based on your bigoted assumptions. I hope you don't think you are some openminded because you don't think they should be excluded, but do think they are unruly attention whores; since the only evidence you have for your conclusion is that they are gay and want to go to the prom as a couple, a gay couple, that doesn't have to hide.

Why can't she just shut up and be gay in private? Otherwise, she is a troublemaking attention whore!

Bigot.


Hmmm... I come in and say that maybe we should consider that there is another side to the story, and I'm accused of being a bigot. As I said before, this is an emotional issue, and I'm sorry that you are so upset about it that you accuse me of bigotry.

My opinion is based on what limited information is mentioned in the article and my experiences with students, most of which have nothing whatsoever to do with sexual orientation. Your opinion of me also comes from very limited information as well and is based on many assumptions. I have already said that I am willing to change my opinion if additional facts come out (the facts in this article are almost exclusively from the student's point of view - not exactly unbiased). Are you willing to alter your point of view?

You cannot assume you know the whole story, I certainly don't. And now I will (sadly) ignore you unless you want to apologize for your mischaracterization of me and your hyperbole. I don't mind a fight if it's something I believe in, but I actually think we're closer to the same side than you realize.


Kimpak: First about the button, IMO its the same as if I wear my (geek) (/geek) shirt, just expessing who I am and whatnot. Second, even if she intended to raise a stink the way I see it is you have to pick your battles. In this instance the battle is easily won, the law is on the girls side so why not make a big deal about it and win one.


Russad: I don't care how disruptive her behavior may have been (based completely on speculation) in the past. The principal's reaction was "if this girl gets to go to prom with her girlfriend, the whole thing is off". That will encourage other students to anger, ridicule, retribution and possibly even violence, against this student. The responsible parties at these schools should not be encouraging that.

I will also say that, based on personal experiences of my own, children like this - the ones involved in school activities - were the least likely to be disruptive.

At any rate, even if you are correct and she has a history of this sort of thing the adults should not be fool enough to take the bait.



I agree with both of you, and thank you for your civility. The principal blew it on several levels no doubt. From the information we have, it appears he handled the whole thing wrong from beginning to end. I'm not sure I agree with the retribution and violence though. I suspect there is more support for her position than anger about it (although, I suppose all it takes is one unstable person...).


number8: Of course it's to get a reaction. But so what? Isn't that the purpose of speech? John Tinker, his sister and friend wore black armbands to school in direct defiance of a school board rule specifically prohibiting them. The Supreme Court stated unequivocally that it was their right to do so.


And perhaps that will be the silver lining to this situation. Little by little the absurdity of this type of discrimination will be recognized, and it will become a non-issue.

/Sorry it took me so long to respond, but I can only check on updates occasionally.
 
2009-11-11 04:24:36 PM  
Absolutely is a birth defect. It is not learned behavior as two gays raising a kid does will not make that child into a homosexual. That is proved. Also proved, true gays CANNOT modify their behavior.
You're either gonna like sucking d!ck, or you ain't.

Birth defect: A condition present at birth detrimental to the successful long term propagation of the species.

If any further funding allows for continued study, the following will be realized in our lifetime:
What will be proved is not so much 'heredity' as chemical reactions during development lending at least a predisposition for teh ghey. If it were purely hereditary, it would have died out long ago.

Just one example of research so far.....
"[sic:It has been] found that there's a correlation between a particular genetic combination of the brain and homosexual activity. In other words, there's a genetic predisposition towards homosexuality, or as some have said there's a 'gay gene'."
(study performed by: Simon LeVay. A neuroscientist who is actually gay himself.)
 
2009-11-11 04:36:28 PM  

MagusAzod: I agree with both of you, and thank you for your civility. The principal blew it on several levels no doubt. From the information we have, it appears he handled the whole thing wrong from beginning to end. I'm not sure I agree with the retribution and violence though. I suspect there is more support for her position than anger about it (although, I suppose all it takes is one unstable person...).


With regard to my comment about retribution/violence: the prom is very important to a lot of teenagers. It's this event that is built up on TV dramas and the coming of age story in general, and (at least when I was in high school) it was almost universally important. And kids are mean, they are spiteful, and they are often willing to do some pretty crazy things. Throw into that mix that the prom being canceled would be because of a lesbian? There's still a lot hate for homosexuals, and those feelings can run deep.
 
2009-11-11 04:41:38 PM  
austerity101 wins my lols.

/thank you
 
2009-11-11 04:48:40 PM  
School districts, I've noticed, have a remarkable ability to do exactly the wrong thing when given a choice. I think superintendents must get off on spending taxpayer money on lawyers.
 
2009-11-11 04:49:32 PM  

FuturePastNow: School districts, I've noticed, have a remarkable ability to do exactly the wrong thing when given a choice. I think superintendents must get off on spending taxpayer money on lawyers.


Spoogerintendents?
 
2009-11-11 04:53:53 PM  

mini_martin: If God wanted gay's he would have made Adam and Steve not Adam and Eve


If God wanted gay's what? Don't leave me hanging like that.
 
2009-11-11 05:04:21 PM  

ilgallo: Absolutely is a birth defect. It is not learned behavior as two gays raising a kid does will not make that child into a homosexual. That is proved. Also proved, true gays CANNOT modify their behavior.
You're either gonna like sucking d!ck, or you ain't.

Birth defect: A condition present at birth detrimental to the successful long term propagation of the species.


By that reasoning, being a dumbass such as yourself is a birth defect.
 
2009-11-11 05:14:21 PM  
ilgallo: If it were purely hereditary, it would have died out long ago.

You don't understand genetics very well.
 
2009-11-11 05:33:55 PM  
blogs.kansas.com

Approves.

/hot
//damn lesbians
 
2009-11-11 05:52:01 PM  

ilgallo: Birth defect: A condition present at birth detrimental to the successful long term propagation of the species.


Actually, a birth defect is a congenital disorder that is physically apparent upon birth. It's a physical malformation that a doctor can point to and cast Eric Stoltz to play in a cheesy film. Just because you don't know what you are talking about doesn't mean we all have to join in, f*ckface.
 
2009-11-11 06:00:34 PM  

SapperInTexas: SapperInTexas: kellynoel: These girls are in high school. We are supposed to be teaching them how to navigate in this world.

If you teach them that you just have to STFU and pretend that you're not who you are and then sneak around and be that, then THAT IS WHAT THEY WILL LEARN.

I would rather teach them that when something is wrong, you CHANGE IT. If it cannot be changed, by god, you FIGHT until enough people join you. If you cannot go with your girlfriend to prom, then by god, you do not go to prom and pretend not to be what you are.

Children learn what we teach them. I want to teach them to fight for justice and equity.

Okay, justice, equity, fairness, hope, change, yada yada yada.

That's all well and good, but life isn't fair. Are you also going to teach your kids how to deal with the swift kick to the crotch that comes when you do your best to fight The Man but The Man (who has The Power and The Money) wins?

Teaching kids to fight for change teaches honesty about life right with it. It doesn't make coddled, selfish little snowflakes.

Unless anybody who ever spoke out against The Man (which includes a lot of angry no-neck Budweiser-guzzling white protestant males) is selfish and coddled.

 
2009-11-11 06:16:11 PM  

ilgallo: Absolutely is a birth defect. It is not learned behavior as two gays raising a kid does will not make that child into a homosexual. That is proved. Also proved, true gays CANNOT modify their behavior.
You're either gonna like sucking d!ck, or you ain't.

Birth defect: A condition present at birth detrimental to the successful long term propagation of the species...


Uh... then why do the AMA and APA claim it's not a disorder?

And why are there plenty of gay parents and straight couples with no children?

/10-1 you're trolling, but just in case.
 
2009-11-11 06:35:00 PM  

Vtimlin: I dont understand how this crap even gets noticed, girls go to the prom together all the time. They must have been advertising that they are gey and will be going to the prom and nobody can stop them cause they have rights n stuff. Stupid. Who cares. Attention whores/stupid kids and or parents. Ignore them, they will go away.


You're a goddamn moron. We just had a massive thread a while back about a judge who denied an interracial couple a marriage license in the South, despite people like that getting married "all the time."

If you don't think people in Alabama still have a problem with gay folks, you're delusional.
 
2009-11-11 06:48:49 PM  

GranoblasticMan: Cup_O_Jo: Here's an idea. How about not trying to make Lesbian,Bi,Gay,and Transgender a HUGE issue every year for prom. Gay students go to prom together-they just show up..If they don't let ya in the door THEN YOU call the ACLU. HOWEVER you do not do this:
"When Cynthia approached her principal to ask if she could bring her girlfriend with her to the prom, he said no."
If you do that-I am going to assume you are an attention whore that wants to be contacted by Jerry Springer. Your flash in the pan lasted as long as it took to type this.

and

Thisbymaster: Yeah, attention whore is where it is at. This 'little girl' shows that 1 she had to have told everyone that she was a lesbian, 2 Showing off to everyone how 'different' she is to everyone(by being just like everyone else) 3 and she demands that everyone sees what she is on a nationwide level. Gay sympathizers are the only ones taking her case because they are delusional, instead of taking the practical approach of ignoring her. If she would do what a real lesbian would do, keep it to themselves and not shout it from the roof tops, there would never have been a problem.

Except that the principal had no right and no reason to say "no" to her request to bring her girlfriend. It's pretty difficult for an "attention whore" to be an "attention whore" if they're denied the spotlight. All the principal had to do is say, "Okay," and this would've been a complete non-issue. Instead, he decided his personal bigoted viewpoints were more important than legal precedent, and he's going to suffer the consequences for his actions.

I'm sorry, but what you're basically saying is, "I'm okay with homosexuals as long as nobody knows they're homosexuals." It's the same bullshiat as the DADT policy. Why is it fine for a heterosexual couple to be seen socially and introduce themselves as a couple but a homosexual couple should "just keep quiet?" What is it about "Can I bring my lesbian girlfriend to the prom" that is more "attention whore" than "Can I bring my heterosexual boyfriend to the prom?" The answer to both should be exactly the same: "Yes."


NO- the attention whore part is ASKING--and the calling the ACLU. Like I SAID----Just do what you are going to do. If you get denied at the door then THEN you call the ACLU and sue. But asking a question you already know the answer to-in essence drawing attention to yourself= ATTENTION WHORE.
 
2009-11-11 06:56:08 PM  

Cup_O_Jo: NO- the attention whore part is ASKING--and the calling the ACLU. Like I SAID----Just do what you are going to do. If you get denied at the door then THEN you call the ACLU and sue. But asking a question you already know the answer to-in essence drawing attention to yourself= ATTENTION WHORE.


No.

Kids have to REGISTER their dates BEFORE prom these days.

It is NOT okay to have the little gays and lesbians pretend they're going solo in order to attend.

And it is NOT okay to suggest that this poor girl wait until she's at the door of the prom to be told that she cannot attend.

ACLU or no, if she does that, she will MISS THE PROM, which is the entire farking POINT.
 
2009-11-11 07:05:28 PM  

thamike: Rodddxl: Take your own advice. People that hold the "seperation of church and state" mantra close to their heart are ignorant of the context in which it was used by Jefferson, ignorant of the founders intent of the first amendment, and the bigots that brought it in to popular judicial use.

Oh, do tell.


Take your own advice.

RSN: Anyone with a religious argument about what should or shouldn't happen in public institutions should look up the word "separation," as in "separation of church and state."
 
2009-11-11 07:13:03 PM  
WFern:

If you don't think people in Alabama America still have a problem with gay folks, you're delusional.

FIFY. Oh, and a simply Google search for "gay prom" or "gay prom controversy" quickly brings search results no older than 16 months from such enlightened progressive states such as Massachusetts and California that involve GLBT being discriminated against at proms.
 
2009-11-11 07:23:16 PM  

Rodddxl: Take your own advice.


What advice?
 
2009-11-11 07:40:47 PM  
The principal should tell her she can come if she brings a hot chick, not her ugly girlfriend
 
2009-11-11 07:48:33 PM  

letrole: Homosexuality is a Learned Behaviour.


ilgallo:
No it's not. It is actually a birth defect.

Lipstick Lesbos, the kind one may see in pics or vids, are doing it for cash.
WTF is gonna buy into the vermont birkenstock hairy leg and armpit croud for adult entertainment?
True lesbos look just like this beastie.
I don't believe this example had to actually tell anyone she was a dike.


oh my - they're talking to each other... it's a beautiful thing to watch. i just don't understand how that much douche can exist in the same place. but i guess some things are just beyond my ability to comprehend.

but seriously...lesbo? beastie? dike? are you 14?
 
2009-11-11 07:53:24 PM  
Some people are gay. Got over it America.
 
2009-11-11 08:05:15 PM  

Pincy: Some people are gay. Got over it America.


You may have, but it'll be hard for the Christofascists to get over it.
 
2009-11-11 08:09:57 PM  
I think this thread is part of the push to finally get sh*t done to further human rights and society that helped Obama get into office.
People are tired of "let's slow down" what it comes to giving LGBT people their legal rights, tired of "not so fast" when it comes to restoring the lands that First Nations peoples were cheated out of, tired of "wait wait wait" when it comes to making sure all the citizens of this country are safe from dying in the streets because they don't have money to see a doctor.

This is not 1959 (civil rights movement), 1969 (gay rights movement) or even 1909 (Teddy Roosevelt's national health care proposals, 1912 campaign)... it's 2009. Do it now.
 
2009-11-11 08:14:50 PM  
As a polesmoker, I find myself lately just scanning past the what I assume to be trolling responses. I'm sure there are people that think like that, but all the care leaves my fingers when I try to type out a response.

Anystoned, chances are that the truth meets in the middle. It sounds like she's a bit of a pistol, so I'm sure she's not shying away from the attention. That said, she's a smart girl for pushing for tolerance against a sadly ignorant principal in a greater culture that's becoming more tolerant with every passing month.

It goes without saying that the school is in the wrong. Beyond the implied heterosexuality that we're all brought up with, if you're considered capable of voting at 18 you should be considered to be of sound enough mind to choose your farking prom date.

/yes farkers, you can bring your sheep
 
2009-11-11 09:05:46 PM  

ilgallo: You're either gonna like sucking d!ck, or you ain't.


Homosexuality is a learned behaviour. The instinct for sex involves thrusting and groping and kissing and so forth. If you get horny at the sight of a naked man, or if you get horny at the sight of a naked woman, it is only because you have been taught to make that association.

Bushmen don't have any more interest in female breasts than they do in elbows. The Western fascination with breasts is not instinctive. Certain deviants find stinky feet to be objects of desire. There is very little 'hard-wiring' involved in sexual attraction. You grope and fondle and kiss with whatever you've been taught to be appropriate.

In Imperial China, foot-binding was used to produce the 'lotus foot'. In bowdlerised accounts, Westerners are told that it caused a woman to be housebound and dependent upon her husband. Actually, the 'lotus foot' was used for both manual (pedal?) masturbation of the man, and also as a plug to stimulate a man's anus when the woman wrapped her legs around him during sex.
 
2009-11-11 09:48:49 PM  

letrole: Homosexuality is a learned behaviour. The instinct for sex involves thrusting and groping and kissing and so forth. If you get horny at the sight of a naked man, or if you get horny at the sight of a naked woman, it is only because you have been taught to make that association.

Bushmen don't have any more interest in female breasts than they do in elbows. The Western fascination with breasts is not instinctive. Certain deviants find stinky feet to be objects of desire. There is very little 'hard-wiring' involved in sexual attraction. You grope and fondle and kiss with whatever you've been taught to be appropriate.

In Imperial China, foot-binding was used to produce the 'lotus foot'. In bowdlerised accounts, Westerners are told that it caused a woman to be housebound and dependent upon her husband. Actually, the 'lotus foot' was used for both manual (pedal?) masturbation of the man, and also as a plug to stimulate a man's anus when the woman wrapped her legs around him during sex.


What did Imperial China call "talking out of one's ass?"
 
2009-11-11 09:54:56 PM  

Cup_O_Jo: NO- the attention whore part is ASKING--and the calling the ACLU. Like I SAID----Just do what you are going to do. If you get denied at the door then THEN you call the ACLU and sue. But asking a question you already know the answer to-in essence drawing attention to yourself= ATTENTION WHORE.


If you wait until you are at the doors of the prom, you won't get to go to your prom. Sure, you might will the lawsuit--eventually--but you still ended up missing your own prom. She was trying to preempt such a situation.
 
2009-11-11 09:59:30 PM  
I notice a few of you guys really like pushing "whore" into the general discussion. You really need to look into that.
 
2009-11-11 10:31:50 PM  
So, a baby born without a leg, but who can reproduce just fine, DOESN'T have a birth defect?
 
2009-11-12 07:52:16 AM  

simpsonfan: It would make sense for lesbians to have the short hair, no makeup, dress like guys, etc.

If they look hot, guys will hit on them, if they look like the ugly kind of lesbian, most guys won't want to. Maybe gay guys will, if the lesbian goes far enough in looking like a man.


man, you really are king of the douchebags trolls, aren't you?
 
2009-11-12 08:32:33 AM  
Are lesbians issued those hats when they come out?
 
2009-11-12 08:36:06 AM  

Zabbadizzat: Nevermind. I can see where my last post can be dissected. I should only deal in absolutes from now on.


Don't sweat it. Suggesting subtlety on FARK would be like suggesting some nice Kobe beef at a PETA convention.
 
2009-11-12 08:42:05 AM  
Heres an update to this story.
Update (new window)

Looks like the school is backing down and letting the girl take her date. The article clears up one issue people have been debateing about in here. Her date was from another school, so yes she did HAVE to ask the principal, she wasn't just trying to start a fight.
 
2009-11-12 10:35:29 AM  

thamike: Rodddxl: Take your own advice.

What advice?


Take the advice anyway. I know it's hard. What with all those letters on the keyboard. But I'm sure you can do it champ.
 
2009-11-12 01:54:18 PM  

Rodddxl: thamike: Rodddxl: Take your own advice.

What advice?

Take the advice anyway. I know it's hard. What with all those letters on the keyboard. But I'm sure you can do it champ.


what in holy hell are you blathering about?
 
2009-11-12 02:29:36 PM  
Did all the hetro kids tell the principal who they were taking? Stop being an AW! Principal should stop being a dick!
 
2009-11-12 03:52:51 PM  

boyvoyeur: Did all the hetro kids tell the principal who they were taking? Stop being an AW! Principal should stop being a dick!


366 posts and you think no one else would have brought this up?
 
2009-11-12 04:36:48 PM  
This is just attention whoring.
Sexuality is the new haircut, tattoo, piercing
to irritate and shock mommy and daddy.

In a few years it will be something else.
 
2009-11-12 05:16:46 PM  

Pathman: what in holy hell are you blathering about?


Even my phone-answering monkey is confused.
 
2009-11-12 06:24:53 PM  

Pathman: what in holy hell are you blathering about?


thamike: Even my phone-answering monkey is confused.


Awww, do the vaunted liberal intellectuals have twouble weading?
 
2009-11-12 06:32:14 PM  

Rodddxl: Awww, do the vaunted liberal intellectuals have twouble weading?


Huh.
 
2009-11-12 06:44:47 PM  

natas6.0: This is just attention whoring.
Sexuality is the new haircut, tattoo, piercing
to irritate and shock mommy and daddy.

In a few years it will be something else.


you're right - it is attention whoring...but i'm not sure how you're planning on shocking mommy and daddy with it... unless of course they know you're trolling on the internet.

idiot.
 
2009-11-12 06:46:30 PM  

Rodddxl: Pathman: what in holy hell are you blathering about?

thamike: Even my phone-answering monkey is confused.

Awww, do the vaunted liberal intellectuals have twouble weading?


could be that... i read what you wrote a few times and i still don't get it. please explain.

and what about anything i said in this thread suggests to you that i'm a liberal?
 
2009-11-12 07:07:10 PM  
Pathman
Don't be angry missy.
when I said attention whoring, I don't mean you.

Reading over the thread, you have spent an awful lot of time getting offended by other comments.

Don't getcher panties in a wad. Feel free to focus on me and continue trolling.
 
2009-11-12 10:42:36 PM  
(sigh). Another beautiful fantasy shattered by a single picture.
 
2009-11-13 10:19:21 AM  

Ima4nic8or: (sigh). Another beautiful fantasy shattered by a single picture.


heh. sorry about that

/submitter
 
2009-11-13 02:48:23 PM  

thamike: Rodddxl: Awww, do the vaunted liberal intellectuals have twouble weading?

Huh.


Exactly. Great way to illustrate my point.
 
2009-11-13 03:22:29 PM  

Rodddxl: Pathman: what in holy hell are you blathering about?

thamike: Even my phone-answering monkey is confused.

Awww, do the vaunted liberal intellectuals have twouble weading?


I'll be damned.

You don't know what vaunted means.
 
2009-11-13 03:49:53 PM  

natas6.0: Pathman
Don't be angry missy.
when I said attention whoring, I don't mean you.

Reading over the thread, you have spent an awful lot of time getting offended by other comments.

Don't getcher panties in a wad. Feel free to focus on me and continue trolling.


mine was funnier
 
2009-11-13 04:00:24 PM  

Russad: You don't know what vaunted means.


He did vaunt liberals. He probably meant "vaulted."

Pole vaulted liberals?

farm1.static.flickr.com

/How do we know she's a liberal?
//because of the vaultedness
 
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