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(Examiner)   Faced with a high school student wanting to bring her girlfriend to the prom, the principal does the only rational thing and threatens to cancel the prom (w/pic of what a high school lesbian might look like)   (examiner.com) divider line 373
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2009-11-10 10:57:39 PM
Twenty years ago we had a prom at an all boys college prep academy. There were these two girls who were 'entertainment bisexual' who went to a sister school and dated around in our year.

I remember the huge conspiracy to keep it all hush hush because the after party involved a hot tub and we all figured they would entertain. We were convinced that if the headmaster knew what was going on he would shut us down.

good times. Turned out he was a pedophile but didnt get caught till years later. So....not so good times?
 
2009-11-10 11:01:26 PM
Great story bro!!!

/Needed more tounge!
 
2009-11-10 11:15:03 PM
Now the principle says he will cancel the event for everyone if she is allowed to attend with her girlfriend.

The principle what? Gay-basher? I bet that looks good on a business card:

Dick Face
Principle Gay-basher.
 
2009-11-10 11:17:31 PM
Someone needs to remind the principal that we're living in the 21st century.
 
2009-11-10 11:18:05 PM
That's a man, baby!
 
2009-11-10 11:21:13 PM
So don't go to prom. I knew gals that showed up with other gals at prom and no one gave a shiat. I don't think any of them announced themselves as lesbians or if they were. She wants it announced or something or is trying to prove a point, who knows? If she had just showed up with a ticket with her partner, I doubt anyone would've said shiat. If I had gone to my principal and asked him if I could show up to prom wearing a Dead Kennedys tee, he would've said no. If I just showed up with it, maybe I'd get through, maybe I wouldn't, whatever. Is she really set on going to prom or just playing it up? And besides that, who in the hell lets their kid get holes pierced in their face?
 
2009-11-10 11:25:18 PM
So he blows something up into a huge media circus and potentially ruins prom for everyone else to stop something very minor (two girls going to prom together...welcome to the 21st Century buddy) from happening? Have to love the rationality there.
 
2009-11-10 11:26:32 PM
Zabbadizzat: So don't go to prom. I knew gals that showed up with other gals at prom and no one gave a shiat. I don't think any of them announced themselves as lesbians or if they were. She wants it announced or something or is trying to prove a point, who knows? If she had just showed up with a ticket with her partner, I doubt anyone would've said shiat. If I had gone to my principal and asked him if I could show up to prom wearing a Dead Kennedys tee, he would've said no. If I just showed up with it, maybe I'd get through, maybe I wouldn't, whatever. Is she really set on going to prom or just playing it up? And besides that, who in the hell lets their kid get holes pierced in their face?

Except Big Brother is watching everything. When I taught high school (and therefore chaperoned proms and whatnot), it was completely different than my time as a student.

Kids today, when purchasing their tickets, have to give the name of their date, who, by the way, must be a student in the school district. Everyone shows his or her ID at the door.

So, chances are this girl went to buy tickets and they asked her who the +1 was.
 
2009-11-10 11:27:56 PM
Zabbadizzat: So don't go to prom. I knew gals that showed up with other gals at prom and no one gave a shiat. I don't think any of them announced themselves as lesbians or if they were. She wants it announced or something or is trying to prove a point, who knows? If she had just showed up with a ticket with her partner, I doubt anyone would've said shiat. If I had gone to my principal and asked him if I could show up to prom wearing a Dead Kennedys tee, he would've said no. If I just showed up with it, maybe I'd get through, maybe I wouldn't, whatever. Is she really set on going to prom or just playing it up? And besides that, who in the hell lets their kid get holes pierced in their face?

You suck at life.
 
2009-11-10 11:29:43 PM
People can't just show up to prom as singles, kellynoel? There weren't a lot of them, but I'm fairly sure it was allowed. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.
 
2009-11-10 11:30:54 PM
Ok, Three Crooked Squirrels. Dang.
 
2009-11-10 11:32:01 PM
Zabbadizzat: People can't just show up to prom as singles, kellynoel? There weren't a lot of them, but I'm fairly sure it was allowed. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.

Like a black guy showing up "single" and meeting his white girlfriend, also a "single", out back? Sure, I guess that is "allowed".
 
2009-11-10 11:33:42 PM
Zabbadizzat: People can't just show up to prom as singles, kellynoel? There weren't a lot of them, but I'm fairly sure it was allowed. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.

They can, yes. But if her girlfriend goes to another school, the little lesbian in question has to buy her ticket and provide her name and student number.

Or if, god forbid, they don't want to be treated like second-class citizens and would like to attend the prom as a rite of passage and a mark of coupledom like every heterosexual couple since the dawn of time.
 
2009-11-10 11:36:56 PM
Lorelle: Someone needs to remind the principal that we're living in the 21st century.

It's a city of less than 9000 people in northeast Alabama. Their decade zone is about 5 behind the rest of the country.
 
2009-11-10 11:37:51 PM
Ok, I get it, Three Crooked Squirrels. I guess that is a bit of a pecker. That isn't right. I still don't think her parents should let her put holes in her face yet, but that's neither here nor there. As long as they can't do any rub dancing like the guy/girl pairings, then I don't see where it should be a problem.
 
2009-11-10 11:38:38 PM
Gecko Gingrich: Lorelle: Someone needs to remind the principal that we're living in the 21st century.

It's a city of less than 9000 people in northeast Alabama. Their decade zone is about 5 behind the rest of the country.


Don't they still have indentured servants down thur.
 
2009-11-10 11:43:57 PM
Looks like I'm going stag again.
 
2009-11-10 11:45:46 PM
Gecko Gingrich: Lorelle: Someone needs to remind the principal that we're living in the 21st century.

It's a city of less than 9000 people in northeast Alabama. Their decade zone is about 5 behind the rest of the country.


I grew up in Tennessee and while reading this article, I said to myself, "Who cares about this stuff anymore?!" Then I saw "Alabama" in the article headline.

And my dad wonders why I make fun of those he calls "his kind"

/Bon Secour, AL farkers...look it up. There's a piece of swamp land there that will become my inheritance.
 
2009-11-10 11:50:08 PM
But, I imagine a lot of black/white pairings, when that was frowned on, did have to buy tickets as singles and meet out back. Getting other people past their prejudices isn't gonna happen right off the bat.

Maybe easing into it is better than shoving it into their face? People react differently when you're confrontational. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's how folks tend to work.
 
2009-11-10 11:53:06 PM
Zabbadizzat: But, I imagine a lot of black/white pairings, when that was frowned on, did have to buy tickets as singles and meet out back. Getting other people past their prejudices isn't gonna happen right off the bat.

Maybe easing into it is better than shoving it into their face? People react differently when you're confrontational. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's how folks tend to work.


The fact that it happened doesn't make it right. The fact that some people are prejudiced does not mean that other people should have to hide.

We all biatch about today's media, but it's good for one thing: shining a spotlight in the dark little corners of society.

Shine that farking spotlight and don't let these pieces of shiat get away with institutionalized prejudice and oppression.

You might not be saying that it's right or wrong, but you SHOULD be saying that it is WRONG. Because IT IS WRONG.
 
2009-11-10 11:55:29 PM
Scottsboro High School here in north Alabama tried the same thing about two years ago, denying a lesbian couple the right to, not only attend their prom, but attend ANY school functions. ACLU won that easily in court.

/Very stupid of schools to act this way.
//Not only is there plenty of case law against this discrimination.
///But cash-strapped school systems don't need to waste money on this issue.
 
2009-11-11 12:00:49 AM
Three Crooked Squirrels: Zabbadizzat: So don't go to prom. I knew gals that showed up with other gals at prom and no one gave a shiat. I don't think any of them announced themselves as lesbians or if they were. She wants it announced or something or is trying to prove a point, who knows? If she had just showed up with a ticket with her partner, I doubt anyone would've said shiat. If I had gone to my principal and asked him if I could show up to prom wearing a Dead Kennedys tee, he would've said no. If I just showed up with it, maybe I'd get through, maybe I wouldn't, whatever. Is she really set on going to prom or just playing it up? And besides that, who in the hell lets their kid get holes pierced in their face?

You suck at life.


Zabbadizzat doesn't suck at life. In fact, Even if you disagree 1000% with what he said there, he's still 500% cooler than 99% of the other farkwads out there. I'm being all serious-like now, you dig?
 
2009-11-11 12:05:45 AM
John Paul Jones: Zabbadizzat doesn't suck at life. In fact, Even if you disagree 1000% with what he said there, he's still 500% cooler than 99% of the other farkwads out there. I'm being all serious-like now, you dig?

No. No, I do not dig.

These girls are in high school. We are supposed to be teaching them how to navigate in this world.

If you teach them that you just have to STFU and pretend that you're not who you are and then sneak around and be that, then THAT IS WHAT THEY WILL LEARN.

I would rather teach them that when something is wrong, you CHANGE IT. If it cannot be changed, by god, you FIGHT until enough people join you. If you cannot go with your girlfriend to prom, then by god, you do not go to prom and pretend not to be what you are.

Children learn what we teach them. I want to teach them to fight for justice and equity.
 
2009-11-11 12:06:11 AM
I was trying to say that the way people react when confronted wasn't right or wrong, that's just nature. Not that this situation was or wasn't.

I don't care. If she wants to bring her gal to prom, more power to her. I don't think it should be a problem. But maybe the principal isn't as enlightened as I am. You can't expect to change things your way immediately was all I was saying.

At least I didn't say y'all suck at life. Jesus. Nevermind.
 
2009-11-11 12:07:40 AM
I brought a girl to my senior prom. I dumped my boyfriend because he signed up for the Navy without telling me but I got ready like I was going. I told my mom I was picking him up and as I was driving through the town where the prom was I ran into my friend Kate who went to another high school. I said "Hey Kate wanna go to the Prom with me?" She said sure and jumped in the car wearing a tank top, cut offs, and birkenstocks. We had a blast and then drove up to Penn State and went to a house party. Dear god that was a fun night.

I don't think I would have had that much fun with a guy.

ANYWAY canceling the prom because someone is going to bring a date you don't like is farking retarded. The kids should pull a Footloose.
 
2009-11-11 12:08:56 AM
Just for clarification: I didn't actually run into her with my car. She was waiting to cross the street while I was stopped at a red light.
 
2009-11-11 12:11:58 AM
Zabbadizzat: At least I didn't say y'all suck at life. Jesus. Nevermind.

I didn't say that you suck at life either, but your approach to this problem does nothing to fix it. You can't just say "oh not everyone is as open-minded as me" and pretend that it's not a big deal. This is discrimination, dude. All of the great humanitarians in history would be disturbed by your lack of compassion. As a matter of fact, I think you're TOO open-minded. I'd almost rather have to deal with a retarded bigot who believes that girls who kiss girls are going to burn in hell than someone like you who just flat ass doesn't care enough to do the right thing.
 
2009-11-11 12:20:21 AM
Zabbadizzat: But, I imagine a lot of black/white pairings, when that was frowned on, did have to buy tickets as singles and meet out back. Getting other people past their prejudices isn't gonna happen right off the bat.

Maybe easing into it is better than shoving it into their face? People react differently when you're confrontational. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's how folks tend to work.


Let me just toss out there that there are still segregated proms in the United States.

/didn't have to name his date when he went to senior prom
//one lesbian couple at the prom AFAIK
///nobody cared
 
2009-11-11 12:24:05 AM
At my wife's prom, I had one of the most entertaining experiences ever. Cue up your "cool story, bro" pictures now.

See, my wife was friends with the only gay guy in her school. He was also her ex-boyfriend from freshman year. So this already ads a dimension of weirdness.

So he and his date from another school show up. Keep in mind this school is in the middle of nowhere, Michigan, and it's 1999. So he shows up, goes through the front, and goes to the lady taking pictures.

The look on this woman's face was just impossible not to laugh at. Confusion, panic, and even disgust flying across her face. She ended up placing them at the VERY edges of the frame, so that they were as far apart as they could be without having them in separate photos.

If that was all that happened, it'd be relevant but not all THAT funny. What was funny is that during the night, his date decided he wanted to go to an after prom party, where as Will wanted to hang out at the dance for a while longer. His date ended up leaving, so we had my wife's biatchy ex-boyfriend at our table, complaining about his boyfriend. Well, he RODE with his boyfriend, and now didn't have a ride.

So, my senior prom story is one that included driving my wife's gay ex-boyfriend home while he biatches and screams about his boyfriend who ditched him at the prom.
 
2009-11-11 12:24:18 AM
Zabbadizzat: At least I didn't say y'all suck at life. Jesus. Nevermind.

I was the one that said you suck at life. And it was because of you're 15t pst. Rather pathetic that you claim not to care, but think people should shy away of the thoughts of a single man. Man up. Is it OK or not? And if it is OK, dismiss the principal, not the student.
 
2009-11-11 12:25:54 AM
Did black and white dates just show up to prom and expect everyone to accept it? Probably not. Not a good idea at the time, could've got someone killed. Folks worked into it.

Should black and white dates be allowed at prom? Absolutely.

Should lesbians be allowed at prom? Absolutely.

Is lesbian couples going to the papers and getting the ACLU to get into people's faces who think it's wrong going to fix things? Probably not.

Going at it at an angle would be a better approach. That's all I mean.

Now get bent y'all hippies.
 
2009-11-11 12:26:19 AM
I wore a kilt to my prom, full formal attire. I went and told the administration ahead of time, because after burning hundreds of dollars for the kilt, dinner, limo and hotel room I would be damned if they gave me any shiat at the door.farking prom. It's for the kids. If they want to bring a blow-up doll, let 'em.
 
2009-11-11 12:28:15 AM
Shadowknight: At my wife's prom, I had one of the most entertaining experiences ever. Cue up your "cool story, bro" pictures now.

See, my wife was friends with the only gay guy in her school. He was also her ex-boyfriend from freshman year. So this already ads a dimension of weirdness.

So he and his date from another school show up. Keep in mind this school is in the middle of nowhere, Michigan, and it's 1999. So he shows up, goes through the front, and goes to the lady taking pictures.

The look on this woman's face was just impossible not to laugh at. Confusion, panic, and even disgust flying across her face. She ended up placing them at the VERY edges of the frame, so that they were as far apart as they could be without having them in separate photos.

If that was all that happened, it'd be relevant but not all THAT funny. What was funny is that during the night, his date decided he wanted to go to an after prom party, where as Will wanted to hang out at the dance for a while longer. His date ended up leaving, so we had my wife's biatchy ex-boyfriend at our table, complaining about his boyfriend. Well, he RODE with his boyfriend, and now didn't have a ride.

So, my senior prom story is one that included driving my wife's gay ex-boyfriend home while he biatches and screams about his boyfriend who ditched him at the prom.


I didn't go to my prom. The theme song was "The Thong Song"

I do not feel that I missed anything.
 
2009-11-11 12:28:31 AM
Zabbadizzat: Did black and white dates just show up to prom and expect everyone to accept it? Probably not. Not a good idea at the time, could've got someone killed. Folks worked into it.

Should black and white dates be allowed at prom? Absolutely.

Should lesbians be allowed at prom? Absolutely.

Is lesbian couples going to the papers and getting the ACLU to get into people's faces who think it's wrong going to fix things? Probably not.

Going at it at an angle would be a better approach. That's all I mean.

Now get bent y'all hippies.


Are you trolling with this nonsense? Seriously?
 
2009-11-11 12:29:02 AM
Zabbadizzat:

Thou doth protest too much
 
2009-11-11 12:29:36 AM
Nevermind. I can see where my last post can be dissected. I should only deal in absolutes from now on.
 
2009-11-11 12:31:12 AM
Yeah yeah yeah...the principal is a dick...


Now, time for the important stuff...

That's one bad hat...
 
2009-11-11 12:36:31 AM
stinieroo: I didn't go to my prom. The theme song was "The Thong Song"

I do not feel that I missed anything.


I didn't go to mine either. My wife thought it was a big deal, as she was class VP and into all that crap.

It was fun, if for nothing else than to hear her now very flamboyant ex in the back of my car catting it up about his now future ex.
 
2009-11-11 12:37:10 AM
I wasn't trying to kellynoel, but I can see how'd you'd think that. I guess I'm doing a very poor job of making the point I'm trying to make.

3{squirrels, get farked.
 
2009-11-11 12:40:58 AM
kellynoel: We all biatch about today's media, but it's good for one thing: shining a spotlight in the dark little corners of society.

My favorite part of this is watching the racists and the homophobes scurry away from the light.

And then blame the light for being liberal and hating Jesus.
 
2009-11-11 12:41:50 AM
Zabbadizzat: 3{squirrels, get farked.

Very eloquent. Seriously, if you aren't against lesbians going to the prom together, why shouldn't these lesbians go to the prom together?

I guess your basic argument is "all good things will come in time." I guess any person born after 1950 would agree the time has come.

And more to the point, this time only comes once in a person's life, so these girls can't wait "until their time". Why do you think they should have to?
 
2009-11-11 12:52:02 AM
It was about as good as, "I suck at life", Three Crooked Squirrels. All I was trying to say was that it isn't going to happen overnight and it isn't because the people involved are evil, it's just not something they're used to. A slower approach might work better. But that's just my opinion.
 
2009-11-11 12:53:59 AM
Zabbadizzat:

It's been too slow. It's about time. And for these girls, there is only one prom. fark the principal. Support the girls.

Stop being wishy-washy. Take a side.
 
2009-11-11 12:56:41 AM
Zabbadizzat: A slower approach might work better. But that's just my opinion.

No. The only thing that gets these backwoods bigots out of the dark ages is to run the fark in, lights all aglo, and shame them into contemporary society.
 
2009-11-11 12:57:03 AM
I'm not wishy washy on it, I know what I think. I haven't said anything different. Now keep trying to bash your ideas onto others and see how well it works.
 
2009-11-11 12:57:16 AM
Umm, aglow.
 
2009-11-11 01:01:24 AM
Zabbadizzat: I'm not wishy washy on it, I know what I think. I haven't said anything different. Now keep trying to bash your ideas onto others and see how well it works.

Ummmm . . . According to you (who has no problem with this), I am "trying to bash" your ideas onto others. Regardless, I'm going to bed. My last point is that if you think it is OK for these young ladies to go to the prom together, don't excuse the people who stand in their way.

/G'night.
 
2009-11-11 01:05:43 AM
Didn't I see that chick carrying Frodo up the side of Mt Doom?
 
2009-11-11 02:01:40 AM
I don't understand why this is such a big deal...
Let her go to the prom. Let her bring whom she wants. Why care about this sort of thing?

Oh? Alabama? That explains it...
 
2009-11-11 02:18:37 AM
This is one couple they *know* won't get all teen pregnant.
 
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