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Weaver95: what_now:
Awwww...it's ok. We love you.

here, give RONPAUL! a hug.

Rorschach's Journal. October 12th, 1985. Dog carcass in alley this morning, tire tread on burst stomach. This city is afraid of me. I have seen its true face. The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' And I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' They had a choice, all of them. They could have followed in the footsteps of good men like my father, or President Truman. Decent men, who believed in a day's work for a day's pay. Instead they followed the droppings of lechers and communists and didn't realize that the trail led over a precipice until it was too late. Don't tell me they didn't have a choice. Now the whole world stands on the brink, staring down into bloody hell, all those liberals and intellectuals and smooth-talkers, and all of a sudden nobody can think of anything to say.

You've been mentioning Rorschach a tad more frequently lately. Man-crush?

May I interject in this discussion with an awesome smiley?

You really pissed him off now, Xenu.

susansto-helit: You've been mentioning Rorschach a tad more frequently lately. Man-crush?

I finally go around to picking up a copy of the Watchmen on DVD.

Uchiha_Cycliste: \and may peace be with you.

And also with you...

NewportBarGuy: You really pissed him off now, Xenu.

damn i really have to get around to reading that book at some point.

This thread is full of sinners and heathen and Catholics aren't real Christians, anyway.

Quick, Dirty MSPaint/icanhas contribution to the thread:

Weaver95: On a completely unrelated note, some very interesting documentation concerning the role of women in the early church has been cropping up lately. who knows if any of it is true...but it seems that some of the early church fathers might have been rewriting the rules when they thought Jesus wasn't looking....

Evenin' dearie. Somehow I thought I might run into you in here. :)

Yes - there's a reason the Cistercian reform allowed Abbesses to vote at General Council right along with the Abbots. They actually did their homework. When I left, the Trappists were trying to push through a re-worging of the Constitutions so that they could elect an Abbess General if they so chose.

Let's just say, the Vatican didn't like it.

Man. This could be an epic thread. F*ck the popcorn - I'm firin' up the grill.

Weaver95: susansto-helit: You've been mentioning Rorschach a tad more frequently lately. Man-crush?

I finally go around to picking up a copy of the Watchmen on DVD.

Ah, gotcha. You probably already know about it since you're a fan, but just in case you don't, you might want to check this out. (Not a Rick Roll.)

/I don't know why, but that painting makes me hungry
//It's like the Roman version of Turducken, only with a "bull" and a Saint

susansto-helit: Weaver95: susansto-helit: You've been mentioning Rorschach a tad more frequently lately. Man-crush?

I finally go around to picking up a copy of the Watchmen on DVD.

Ah, gotcha. You probably already know about it since you're a fan, but just in case you don't, you might want to check this out. (Not a Rick Roll.)

something to add to my christmas list. thanks!

Gormenghast: /I don't know why, but that painting makes me hungry
//It's like the Roman version of Turducken, only with a "bull" and a Saint

It's amazing what the human mind can come up with to inflict upon other humans.

This looks to be a well contrived thread with logical and meaningful discussion.

Nothing to see here folks

Gormenghast: /I don't know why, but that painting makes me hungry
//It's like the Roman version of Turducken, only with a "bull" and a Saint

Mmmmmm.... nothing like a nice, hot Antipasto.

Benevolent Misanthrope: Let's just say, the Vatican didn't like it.

Man. This could be an epic thread. F*ck the popcorn - I'm firin' up the grill.

verified copies of early church fathers writing forgeries of Christ's commandments would certainly be very interesting indeed.

Weaver95: susansto-helit: Weaver95: susansto-helit: You've been mentioning Rorschach a tad more frequently lately. Man-crush?

I finally go around to picking up a copy of the Watchmen on DVD.

Ah, gotcha. You probably already know about it since you're a fan, but just in case you don't, you might want to check this out. (Not a Rick Roll.)

something to add to my christmas list. thanks!

No problem.

I'm not even waiting for Christmas. I've avoided watching Tales of the Black Freighter because I wanted to wait until it was part of the whole Watchmen package, so I'm way too anxious to get my hands on this DVD.

/such a Watchmen geek

I don't think scientologists allow their membership to see unapproved websites. I could be mistaken, but there was a story floating around a while back about the Co$giving members a custom web browswer to put on thier computers. there was a lot of custom code in the thing, and heavy on the filtering/tracking...or so goes the rumor anyway. I've never seen a copy of it myself. Scientology does have some pretty good rumors though. muck4doo: What's so popcorn about this? Are there that many Catholics and Scientologists on Fark? Dunno. But there are LOTS of people who hate both. My bedtime is going to make me miss this epic thread. I'll have to sift through the charred remains tomorrow morning. I'd tell ya kids to play nice, but that's not nearly as much fun. Weaver95: Benevolent Misanthrope: Let's just say, the Vatican didn't like it. Man. This could be an epic thread. F*ck the popcorn - I'm firin' up the grill. verified copies of early church fathers writing forgeries of Christ's commandments would certainly be very interesting indeed. Not in a million years. Jesus' teachings were an oral tradition for too long - no one will be able to go that far back on a verified copy. Now, if we could find Paul's manuscripts... Weaver95: muck4doo: What's so popcorn about this? Are there that many Catholics and Scientologists on Fark? I don't think scientologists allow their membership to see unapproved websites. I could be mistaken, but there was a story floating around a while back about the Co$ giving members a custom web browswer to put on thier computers. there was a lot of custom code in the thing, and heavy on the filtering/tracking...or so goes the rumor anyway. I've never seen a copy of it myself.

Scientology does have some pretty good rumors though.

If true I wonder who developed it for them.

muck4doo: Weaver95: muck4doo: What's so popcorn about this? Are there that many Catholics and Scientologists on Fark?

I don't think scientologists allow their membership to see unapproved websites. I could be mistaken, but there was a story floating around a while back about the Co$giving members a custom web browswer to put on thier computers. there was a lot of custom code in the thing, and heavy on the filtering/tracking...or so goes the rumor anyway. I've never seen a copy of it myself. Scientology does have some pretty good rumors though. If true I wonder who developed it for them. They do install tracking/logging software on peoples computers, but I've never heard of a stand-alone browser. Uchiha_Cycliste: So let me ask you, prick, do you know what one of the key elements in molesting children is? A secluded, relatively sound-proof room? SchlingFocker: Uchiha_Cycliste: So let me ask you, prick, do you know what one of the key elements in molesting children is? A secluded, relatively sound-proof room? Gotta stay mobile. Keeps them from tracking ya. negativland: Uchiha_Cycliste: Did you like totally miss my post where I hated on Ratzinger? Like completely? No, I ignored it. You dissing the Pope is pretty much what I expect from a pawn of the Underground Reich. This is how I picture you (except your Farking on a laptop); Christ! where did you get those? I didn't take pictures (of me) of my last crash, just my bike. Are you watching me?!?! ninjakirby: muck4doo: Weaver95: muck4doo: What's so popcorn about this? Are there that many Catholics and Scientologists on Fark? I don't think scientologists allow their membership to see unapproved websites. I could be mistaken, but there was a story floating around a while back about the Co$ giving members a custom web browswer to put on thier computers. there was a lot of custom code in the thing, and heavy on the filtering/tracking...or so goes the rumor anyway. I've never seen a copy of it myself.

Scientology does have some pretty good rumors though.

If true I wonder who developed it for them.

They do install tracking/logging software on peoples computers, but I've never heard of a stand-alone browser.

I found this on the Operation Clambake site.

looks like it was a hacked version of Netscape. I wonder if they still do this to their membership, or if they backed off on the concept....

Uchiha_Cycliste: So let me ask you, prick, do you know what one of the key elements in molesting children is?

Unquestioned authority over them? A populace unwilling to question your character? A boss that promotes or transfers you when you get caught? The cool-ass easy-access dress?

Do tell.

see?

Benevolent Misanthrope: Uchiha_Cycliste: So let me ask you, prick, do you know what one of the key elements in molesting children is?

Unquestioned authority over them? A populace unwilling to question your character? A boss that promotes or transfers you when you get caught? The cool-ass easy-access dress?

Do tell.

I answered this in depth up above.

Uchiha_Cycliste: see?

i don't see the stigmata

NewportBarGuy: Gotta stay mobile. Keeps them from tracking ya.

I knew I could count on y'all for the latest industry updates.

thomps: i don't see the stigmata

Sounds like astigmatism.

horse-pheathers: Uchiha_Cycliste:
We are in almost complete agreement except for one thing. I think it would be worse to not have the ministries (though this would mean not supporting Rome), than to have the ministries (and their implicit support of the Vatican). At the ground level, the churches do what they want. In as much as their ArchBishop will let them. There may be a hierarchy, and the top sucks, but the bottom doesn't. It's a community of support and charity at the bottom and it's unfair to hate on them because the Pope and Cardinals suck.

Again, I've nothing against the laity -- people are people and most are well meaning and prone to be kind to each other, especially people within their perceived community. I guess what I'm driving at is that the good you point to can be (and often is) accomplished outside the corrupt heirarchy of the church, and that I'd have much more respect for the Catholic religion if those smaller churches would just break away from the corrupt parasite of Rome and run their local food bank, free daycare, community renewal project, or what have you. You can do good without swallowing the evil that plays "hide the pedophile priest" or "keep lieing to the brown people even though those lies are killing them", and so on. Step away from the evil shiat, reject it, and you'll seldom hear a peep from me against your church.

It's a chicken and the egg problem.
If there was no church, WOULD the same people come together to do good works? It's impossible to say because the church IS there. By now I believe we are in complete agreement except for whether or not the church is necessary to serve as a staging point.
So many families do go to church because their parents and parents parents did. Had they never had that exposure and compulsion to continue at adulthood (mind you I left at Cal) would they band together in a different and equally powerful manner? I see the Kiwanis, and other organizations picking up some slack, as do schools and though I can't speak for the Kiwanis, I know my church did much more for the community than my HS did, even before you take into consideration the school was 3k members and the church was maybe half or a quarter as large.
IFF equal good would be done in the churches absences that is what I would defend and support. However, I am unconvinced.

SchlingFocker: Sounds like astigmatism.

Never go as tig matism. Unless you get her really drunk first.

thomps: Uchiha_Cycliste: see?

i don't see the stigmata

Well I TOLD you that I only took crash pics, not pics of me... The stigmata is clearly visible above. It hurt so badly when it started that I crashed.

NewportBarGuy: SchlingFocker: Uchiha_Cycliste: So let me ask you, prick, do you know what one of the key elements in molesting children is?

A secluded, relatively sound-proof room?

Gotta stay mobile. Keeps them from tracking ya.

Huh, that guy seems legit. Whatdoya know.

Weaver95: ninjakirby: muck4doo: Weaver95: muck4doo: What's so popcorn about this? Are there that many Catholics and Scientologists on Fark?

I don't think scientologists allow their membership to see unapproved websites. I could be mistaken, but there was a story floating around a while back about the Co$giving members a custom web browswer to put on thier computers. there was a lot of custom code in the thing, and heavy on the filtering/tracking...or so goes the rumor anyway. I've never seen a copy of it myself. Scientology does have some pretty good rumors though. If true I wonder who developed it for them. They do install tracking/logging software on peoples computers, but I've never heard of a stand-alone browser. I found this on the Operation Clambake site. looks like it was a hacked version of Netscape. I wonder if they still do this to their membership, or if they backed off on the concept.... Interesting. I've heard of Jehovah's Witnesses being told not to listen to or read anything against their beliefs, but don't think I've ever seen them try to enforce it like that. muck4doo: Interesting. I've heard of Jehovah's Witnesses being told not to listen to or read anything against their beliefs, but don't think I've ever seen them try to enforce it like that. it's pretty heavy handed stuff, but I honestly don't know if the Co$ still inflicts malware on their membership. I suspect they still do it, but they've evolved better techniques by now.

muck4doo: Weaver95: muck4doo: What's so popcorn about this? Are there that many Catholics and Scientologists on Fark?

I don't think scientologists allow their membership to see unapproved websites. I could be mistaken, but there was a story floating around a while back about the Co$giving members a custom web browswer to put on thier computers. there was a lot of custom code in the thing, and heavy on the filtering/tracking...or so goes the rumor anyway. I've never seen a copy of it myself. Scientology does have some pretty good rumors though. If true I wonder who developed it for them. duh CO$ gets its hackware from M\$.

\it's a conspiracy.

NewportBarGuy: ASSEMBLE THE ARMY! WAAAAAAAAAR!

I liked that movie. I think it gets unappreciated as one of Ridley Scott's best.

L. Ron Hubbard, using an e-meter on a tomato.

I guess salad might have too many thetans or something.

Weaver95: L. Ron Hubbard, using an e-meter on a tomato.

I guess salad might have too many thetans or something.

holy shiat! a voltmeter!

Uchiha_Cycliste: horse-pheathers: Uchiha_Cycliste:
We are in almost complete agreement except for one thing. I think it would be worse to not have the ministries (though this would mean not supporting Rome), than to have the ministries (and their implicit support of the Vatican). At the ground level, the churches do what they want. In as much as their ArchBishop will let them. There may be a hierarchy, and the top sucks, but the bottom doesn't. It's a community of support and charity at the bottom and it's unfair to hate on them because the Pope and Cardinals suck.

Again, I've nothing against the laity -- people are people and most are well meaning and prone to be kind to each other, especially people within their perceived community. I guess what I'm driving at is that the good you point to can be (and often is) accomplished outside the corrupt heirarchy of the church, and that I'd have much more respect for the Catholic religion if those smaller churches would just break away from the corrupt parasite of Rome and run their local food bank, free daycare, community renewal project, or what have you. You can do good without swallowing the evil that plays "hide the pedophile priest" or "keep lieing to the brown people even though those lies are killing them", and so on. Step away from the evil shiat, reject it, and you'll seldom hear a peep from me against your church.

It's a chicken and the egg problem.
If there was no church, WOULD the same people come together to do good works? It's impossible to say because the church IS there. By now I believe we are in complete agreement except for whether or not the church is necessary to serve as a staging point.
So many families do go to church because their parents and parents parents did. Had they never had that exposure and compulsion to continue at adulthood (mind you I left at Cal) would they band together in a different and equally powerful manner? I see the Kiwanis, and other organizations picking up some slack, as do schools and though I can't speak for the Kiwanis, I know my church did much more for the community than my HS did, even before you take into consideration the school was 3k members and the church was maybe half or a quarter as large.
IFF equal good would be done in the churches absences that is what I would defend and support. However, I am unconvinced.

It sounds very familiar in the US political parties way. If there was no Church/Democratic/Republican party etc. etc...

Now you've confused me. Thanks a lot!

Uchiha_Cycliste: Weaver95: L. Ron Hubbard, using an e-meter on a tomato.

I guess salad might have too many thetans or something.

holy shiat! a voltmeter!

I always thought that'd make a great photoshop. "I have no idea what you're talking about, so here's a picture of L. Ron Hubbard torturing a tomato with a voltmeter'.

Every individual exists in their own subjective universe. 6 billion people = 6 billion subjective universes. Encompassing these universes is a subjective pluriverse.

//that is all
/I said, good night.

Where do the thetans of aborted children go?

I see Weaver is up on his cross again. Come on bud, there is only room for one up there.

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