Repub troll: Ha ha! I will call this felled conifer which I have stood back up and secured, bedecked with polished tin orbs, a "Christmas" tree! Watch the libruls, they're gonna be sooooo mad!

Libruls: ::crickets::

Repub troll: Come on, guys... guys?

As a solitary pagan who has actually studied religion in college I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

1. The tree was a fertility symbol thousands of years before Christ was born.
2. It was actually celebrated at the Winter Solstice.
3. The Roman Empire converted the date to coincide with Saturnalia.
4. Christ wasn't even born in December. It was most likely March or April.
5. It is a holiday tree because despite everything, Christmas is a holiday.

Christmas tree, holiday tree, whatever. January can't come soon enough, bah humbug.

/hot
//like a pole dancer

Ennuipoet: As a godless heathen I would like to say this: "Call the farking tree whatever you want and shut the fark up about it."

Exactly. It amazes me that people get bent out of shape over crap like this. Don't they have any real problems in their lives to deal with?

Ennuipoet: It's not like religion has anything to do with it unless you worship at the Mall...yeah, I know.

Mammon will be displeased with your irreverence.

Ennuipoet: As a godless heathen I would like to say this: "Call the farking tree whatever you want and shut the fark up about it."

Newsletter and all of that. Seriously though, I think most of us grew up calling it a "Christmas Tree". Because of this, saying "Holiday Tree" sounds funny when you've called it a "Christmas Tree" your whole life. So you say "Christmas Tree" out of habit and don't think about it much.

The same thing could be said about saying "Merry Halloween" or "Merry Holidays". It sounds funny, so you stick with the original. Religion has nothing to do with it and shouldn't but I guess the fundies have to feed their AW complex somehow.

Gecko Gingrich: mamoru: in September?

I thought it was March.

I had heard August-ish myself.

I'm an ACLU liberal, like the guy mentions in the article, and I prefer Christmas. That's what I celebrate. I just don't want to hear any crap if I happen to say "Happy Saturnalia!". I like to see fundies squirm in terror, though...

Why do people need lie when they argue their causes:

- the anti-seal-clubbing people put up posters of the cute white baby seals ... the ones which are not hunted

- the christmas-is-under-attack people say "they want to include everyone except christians" when in reality 'they' just want to include everyone

- the anti-abortion people almost exclusively talk about late term abortions which most people on both sides of the argument feel is a bad idea

- etc.

If your position requires lies to support it ... then it is time to rethink your position.

/when your arguments are based on lies then you are no better than Bevets
//intentional misquotes and out of context quotes are lies

Sweet, Merciful Jesus is this stupid!.

Is like the argument of "The Virgin of Guadalupe is not christian because she's not white!"

Yes, I've heard it.

/Can't we all just get along?

drew46n2: jsobota: Gecko Gingrich: mamoru: in September?

I thought it was March.

I had heard August-ish myself.


it's my understanding he likely never existed at all.

Of course he exists. He cleans my pool.

Church |-Wall-| State

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I'm an ACLU liberal, like the guy mentions in the article, and I prefer Christmas. That's what I celebrate. I just don't want to hear any crap if I happen to say "Happy Saturnalia!". I like to see fundies squirm in terror, though...

It's "Io Saturnalia" you crude barbarian.

As a godless heathen I would prefer it if we called it a Christmas Tree, called it Christmas, and shot everyone, regardless of faith, who insists we're encroaching on their beliefs by calling them such.

Ironic, considering that Christmas has its origin from a pagan holiday.

/can we get a flame war started?

Haha, good. As it should be called a Christmas tree anyways.

The anger and tears from Atheists on this issue sustain me.

What the hell difference does it matter if it's called a 'Christmas' or a 'Holiday' tree? In my house, we call it 'The' tree, 'A' tree, or 'That' tree (particularly when it's dropping needles all over everything) when we bother with one.

/blames the holiday bunny

Di Atribe: They feel threatened when people don't believe in the same things they do. I don't really understand that.

Neither do I, but if it wasn't for the hypersensitive fanatics who go apesh*t crazy whenever they even suspect their beliefs are being questioned, the Politics threads would be damn near empty.

Can they still count as a Festivus Pole when a fence is attached?

drew46n2: jsobota: Gecko Gingrich: mamoru: in September?

I thought it was March.

I had heard August-ish myself.


it's my understanding he likely never existed at all.

According to what I've read, he probably did exist, but the stories about him in the New Testament are grossly exaggerated (and I'm sure at least a few of them are completely made up).

panoplos: Haha, good. As it should be called a Christmas tree anyways.

The anger and tears from Atheists on this issue sustain me.

Did you.. read any of the thread so far? At all?

Vodka Zombie: panoplos: Haha, good. As it should be called a Christmas tree anyways.

The anger and tears from Atheists on this issue sustain me.

I'm an atheist, and I call it a Christmas tree. Not really a problem to me.

I suspect the only atheists who claim to take umbrage with the whole Christmas bit are only really doing it for the lulz.

The American Family Association is the religious right's version of Al-Quaida.

Subby, you earn the tag for this.

Sgeo: panoplos: Haha, good. As it should be called a Christmas tree anyways.

The anger and tears from Atheists on this issue sustain me.

Did you.. read any of the thread so far? At all?

Reading is not one of his strong points.

it's not your holiday, you dirty, thieving xtians! your savior was born in March. He was a pisces, thus his name the Icthys-the Fish. Dec 25th was Sol Invictus. Winter Solstice. When the days got longer they celebrated the Sun being reborn from the death of winter.

/dirty heathen
//hardly godless, we have many.
///married to a lutheran. they sing happy berfday to jesus on xmas. it makes my skin crawl.
////slashies for my big hard yule log.

Thats an 827: Can they still count as a Festivus Pole when a fence is attached?

Festivus for the rest of us!

Are you decorating for CHRISTMAS?

Yes? Then it is a CHRISTMAS TREE.

No? Are you a Druid or Pagan?

Yes? Good for you.

No? Then why bother in the first place?

As someone who will be roasting a goose for Yule, I'm getting a kick out of some of these replies.

/the winter solstice: it's the reason for the season