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(Daily Lobo) Strange New Mexico creative writing professors battle university for the right to pose with students on a sadomasochism website   (dailylobo.com) divider line 77
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2009-11-06 09:19:25 AM
Hot (and bothered, and tied up, and spanked) for Teacher?
 
2009-11-06 11:39:08 AM
Those sorts of shennanigans deserve a spanking.

They have been very, very bad.
 
Biv
2009-11-06 11:39:48 AM
Sounds like they are fit to be tied.
 
2009-11-06 11:41:40 AM
Giggity.

/Obligatory
 
2009-11-06 11:41:53 AM
As a creative writing instructor, I can attest that this is tame compared to typical standards.

I'll also add that these departments are rackets and circus-side shows to true Academic learning.
 
2009-11-06 11:43:14 AM
What do the Old Mexico creative writing professors have to say about this?
 
2009-11-06 11:43:32 AM
I found the whole story a little confusing.

Granted, everyone involved is above the age of consent, but did this never strike anyone as inappropriate?
 
2009-11-06 11:44:11 AM
TTIWWP
 
2009-11-06 11:45:15 AM
What are they supposed to do? Their hands are tied.
 
2009-11-06 11:48:54 AM
Nogale: I found the whole story a little confusing.

Granted, everyone involved is above the age of consent, but did this never strike anyone as inappropriate?


The only thing I see is a bit of embarrassment for the University.

I think shutting up was the right course of action.
 
2009-11-06 11:49:18 AM
Nogale: I found the whole story a little confusing.

Granted, everyone involved is above the age of consent, but did this never strike anyone as inappropriate?


Well, it didn't strike me. I guess I need to be old, or something.
 
2009-11-06 11:49:36 AM
What the hell is a sadomasochistic website? Something like myspace?

/definitely something with autoplaying media
 
2009-11-06 11:50:43 AM
phlegmmo:
What are they supposed to do? Their hands are tied.

I see what you did there.
 
2009-11-06 11:51:21 AM
Web site looks like a bunch of people have a pretty good time in what I would call a very supportive type of environment. This woman sounds like a huge biatch.

Link (new window) (NSFW)

/She definitely needs a spanking...
 
2009-11-06 11:53:42 AM
i257.photobucket.com

Who exactly was getting harrased?
Yes, I read TFA
 
2009-11-06 11:54:05 AM
Er... they're all adults and nobody's being coerced into the activity from what I can tell, so what's the freakin' problem?

Also, pix plz.
 
2009-11-06 11:54:29 AM
I'll admit, among the many other opinions I have regarding this article my favorite one is:

Talk about a great endorsement for that website, who else here was happy to know that the professor/student fetish thing on there was real?
 
2009-11-06 11:55:54 AM
Creative Writhing
 
2009-11-06 11:56:03 AM
DrFaustus: Web site looks like a bunch of people have a pretty good time in what I would call a very supportive type of environment. This woman sounds like a huge biatch.

Link (new window) (NSFW)

/She definitely needs a spanking...


I didn't see her on there. Says she goes by the name of Mistress Jade. My google fu is failing me.
 
2009-11-06 11:56:12 AM
Mistress Jade doesn't sound like a very creative name...
 
2009-11-06 11:56:54 AM
I say let 'em

/DNRTFA
 
2009-11-06 11:57:22 AM
this is what GIS got me
stuff.lisachavez.com
 
2009-11-06 11:57:40 AM
Epiphany: DrFaustus: Web site looks like a bunch of people have a pretty good time in what I would call a very supportive type of environment. This woman sounds like a huge biatch.

Link (new window) (NSFW)

/She definitely needs a spanking...

I didn't see her on there. Says she goes by the name of Mistress Jade. My google fu is failing me.


The article says they pulled the photos down and that she no longer works there. Someone did post a pic above, but, unfortunately, not in a dominatrix outfit.

/Thank you mam, may I have another?
 
2009-11-06 11:59:14 AM
DrFaustus: Link (new window) (NSFW)

how NSFW?

/...resisting temptation
 
2009-11-06 12:01:42 PM
medius: DrFaustus: Link (new window) (NSFW)

how NSFW?

/...resisting temptation


Not really nude photos, lots of suggestive text, lots of dominatrix outfits, paddles, etc... I would be careful, hence the warning.
 
2009-11-06 12:04:31 PM
XMark: Er... they're all adults and nobody's being coerced into the activity from what I can tell, so what's the freakin' problem?

Also, pix plz.


In theory one could argue an abuse of power, because even if you're friendly with one of the professors in your program, you still depend on them for review of your work, maintaining your academic standing, reference letters, rankings within the department that determine future opportunities, etc, etc, etc. It's a pretty standard conflict-of-interest problem.

I could go either way on whether the woman filing the suit is likely to be a nutjob. On one hand, I don't trust university administrators, especially when it comes to incidents that might harm the university's reputation. On the other hand, I know a lot of profs (so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies...) and they're just normal folks, with normal human flaws, which sometimes includes fanaticism, delusions of grandeur, and a persecution complex.

Also, subby misread the article in an effort to make the headline sexy. Bad subby. You should be disciplined for that.
 
2009-11-06 12:05:40 PM
While "creative," I don't see what this has to do with "writing."

/Is that a No. 2 pencil in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
 
2009-11-06 12:06:37 PM
The image of the naughty professor was taken down =(
 
2009-11-06 12:09:12 PM
Probably started as a gag but it was bound happen. Still it beats me how they got tied up in this.
 
2009-11-06 12:13:18 PM
misanthropologist: XMark: Er... they're all adults and nobody's being coerced into the activity from what I can tell, so what's the freakin' problem?

Also, pix plz.

In theory one could argue an abuse of power, because even if you're friendly with one of the professors in your program, you still depend on them for review of your work, maintaining your academic standing, reference letters, rankings within the department that determine future opportunities, etc, etc, etc. It's a pretty standard conflict-of-interest problem.

I could go either way on whether the woman filing the suit is likely to be a nutjob. On one hand, I don't trust university administrators, especially when it comes to incidents that might harm the university's reputation. On the other hand, I know a lot of profs (so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies...) and they're just normal folks, with normal human flaws, which sometimes includes fanaticism, delusions of grandeur, and a persecution complex.

Also, subby misread the article in an effort to make the headline sexy. Bad subby. You should be disciplined for that.


The main point of her lawsuit is that having to look at this site (new window) (NSFW) was so traumatic that she deserves monetary compensation. She seriously needs to grow up.

/frigid biatch
 
2009-11-06 12:15:27 PM
I own a S/M website and am getting a kick out of this (much better than that crappy peplove.com site).
 
2009-11-06 12:19:37 PM
Welcome to Albuquerque. Where the creative writing professors are dominatrixes and the football coach chokes his subordinates. They should get together and do a video, to unify the academic and athletic sides of the university.

/Go Lobos!
//Get me the hell out of ABQ
///Please.
 
2009-11-06 12:19:45 PM
Meh... PEP is a scourge on the leather community.

They generally advertise themselves as "a support community" or an "education community" when what they actually are is a phone-sex service.

There's nothing wrong with being a phone-sex service, but don't pretend that you're a support group or education group when all you're really about is selling phone sex. They're not Eulenspiegel or Society of Janus or Chicago Hellfire, no matter how much they like to pretend.
 
2009-11-06 12:21:08 PM
Are you over 18?

Then STFU and deal with the consequences. KTHXBAI
 
2009-11-06 12:21:21 PM
Is it just me, or was that article horribly written, so much so that I couldn't figure out why someone was suing someone and it wasn't the dominatrix that was suing?
 
2009-11-06 12:23:44 PM
SmedIndy: Is it just me, or was that article horribly written, so much so that I couldn't figure out why someone was suing someone and it wasn't the dominatrix that was suing?

Thank you.
 
2009-11-06 12:24:37 PM
they're union, they can't get fired. DUH
 
2009-11-06 12:25:35 PM
As a former English Professor who often posed for S&M pictures with my grad students, I'm getting a kick out these posts... and I really like it.
 
2009-11-06 12:30:11 PM
sparrow794: Perducci: What do the Old Mexico creative writing professors have to say about this?

New Mexico. We're better than Old Mexico.

/try the rellenos, they're delicious
//also hot, like these links


Where are you sparrow? My wife attends NMSU - but we actually live in El Paso. If you're in the southern end of the state give us a holler.
 
2009-11-06 12:31:00 PM
Parent sees sexy associate teacher on peplove, posing with a student.

Parent naturally thinks that's abusing the teacher/student relationship, and embarrassing to the school so sends an anonymous note to dept. chair Jones.

Dept chair Jones asks Warner to check out website to verify.

Warner says she checked out website and verified.

Warner says Jones reluctantly sent an email to school asking for an ethics/sexual harassment investigation.

School says they investigated and didn't see any problems.

Warner says school accused her of fabricating the evidence. And says school wanted to hush everyone up.

Warner resigns as head of program.

Warner sues.
 
2009-11-06 12:31:10 PM
Skanque: Welcome to Albuquerque. Where the creative writing professors are dominatrixes and the football coach chokes his subordinates. They should get together and do a video, to unify the academic and athletic sides of the university.

/Go Lobos!
//Get me the hell out of ABQ
///Please.


You left out that the football coach only wants nubile young ladies working in his office. Oh, and the state level 'pay to play' corruption rings. Red light cameras. The mayor having his term limits removed so he could run again. The bloated school district that can't afford to provide lunches or books for the students, but every school has 4 principals. Oh, and the train! Can't forget the train,.. and the debt! Only a billion dollars or so. But we can't cut any programs... gonna have to raise taxes again.

At least the weather is nice.

media.centralillinoisnewscenter.com

Enjoy your commute!
 
2009-11-06 12:32:20 PM
UNM alum.

/getting a kick
//MS and PhD from Purdue
 
2009-11-06 12:33:03 PM
Sounds like the chick suing the school is a whiny biatch who got all uptight when the university didn't fire the Dominatrix.

The pay cut, if true, is farked up though.
 
2009-11-06 12:33:35 PM
roeth7: UNM alum.

/getting a kick
//MS and PhD from Purdue


Dude, do you know Brian Urlacher?
 
2009-11-06 12:34:59 PM
tuna fingers: Where are you sparrow? My wife attends NMSU - but we actually live in El Paso. If you're in the southern end of the state give us a holler.

I'm in Albuquerque. I did live in Las Cruces for about 6 years though, beautiful place. Go Aggies!
 
2009-11-06 12:36:52 PM
tuna fingers: roeth7: UNM alum.

/getting a kick
//MS and PhD from Purdue

Dude, do you know Brian Urlacher?


I'm his secret gay lover.

/Not really
 
2009-11-06 12:47:12 PM
roeth7: tuna fingers: roeth7: UNM alum.

/getting a kick
//MS and PhD from Purdue

Dude, do you know Brian Urlacher?

I'm his secret gay lover.

/Not really


Hah! I'm a graduate of the UNM English Program, so I'm really getting a kick...

And while I don't "know" Brian, I sure did get drunk with him a couple of times.
 
2009-11-06 12:51:59 PM
Sounds like the people running the university need a good, stiff arse fark.

(Hey, erosartist, cool site! I'm signing up!)
 
2009-11-06 12:52:22 PM
If she is from New Mexico, my guess would be that you really don't want to see a picture of her.

My question- do New Mexico dominatrixes... dominatrxii... dominatrices? wear silver and turquoise studded corsets?

/i'm from that third world hell, i earned the right.
 
2009-11-06 12:55:19 PM
DrFaustus: Web site looks like a bunch of people have a pretty good time in what I would call a very supportive type of environment. This woman sounds like a huge biatch.

Link (new window) (NSFW)

/She definitely needs a spanking...


i601.photobucket.com
 
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