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(MSNBC) NewsFlash Shootings reported at Fort Hood Texas, multiple deaths reported. If only there were qualified people with guns nearby who could defend themselves   (msnbc.msn.com) divider line 2751
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2009-11-05 04:49:41 PM  
xuanzhiyouxuan: GameSprocket: Hey! I just realized that I can listen to the police/EMS scanner from Fort Hood!

Only interesting thing so far is that the cops can't use their cell phones because the circuits are full.

Seems like there should be reasonably allocated frequencies for emergency services. Wasn't this one of the issues that came up on 9/11 almost a decade ago now? And there were hearings. And millions were appropriated to work on the problem. And then large parts of the spectrum were auctioned off to commercial interests with no regard for emergency services. I can't be the only one that remembers this.


They still have radios, but cops generally carry a cell phone these days as well. The cell phone circuits are overloaded.

Sad thing is that the cops are responding to a missing child report. The babysitter says the kid was taking out the garbage and hasn't been seen since. The parents are on lockdown at Ft. Hood.
 
2009-11-05 04:49:41 PM  
Spoonfed'sBuddy: 3 attackers. 7 dead, 12 injured on a military base? Is there some clown out there who wants to post a pic of a helicopter along with some garbage about "your hunting rifle is useless against the US army HURRRR"?

You think they won't bring out that helicopter if by some miracle they can't take or kill him on foot? The bradleys? The tanks? The nukes?

These fools are flies spattered on the headlight. Take that, truck!
 
2009-11-05 04:49:49 PM  
rufus-t-firefly: Per CNN, shooters are "in military outfits." Source: Sen. Hutchison.

Now 12 people dead, 1 of which is a gunman.


Wonder if it's the one they had in custody.
 
2009-11-05 04:49:53 PM  
Update: One of the captured shooters is a Major with A ARAB SOUNDING NAME

-MSNBC
 
2009-11-05 04:49:57 PM  
GameSprocket: AmazingRuss: alywa: So, who wants to guess what the top motive speculations will be? I'm not touching it.

for the lulz, of course

One of the shootings was at the theater, so maybe Paranormal Activity didn't live up to the hype.


Shootings at a theatre, that happens in DC every weekend doesn't it?
 
2009-11-05 04:49:57 PM  
news conference starting..

one guy was a major
 
2009-11-05 04:49:59 PM  
Spoonfed'sBuddy: The same way some Liberals see Osama Bin Laden as a freedom fighter akin to George Washington

Fun fact: about 20 years ago the US government was sending money and arms to bin Laden and other Muslim "freedom fighters" warring against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.

You're welcome to argue with settled history, though.
 
2009-11-05 04:50:00 PM  
brainiac-dumdum: shooter is an army captain w/ an arabic 'sounding' name is being reported

major rather
 
2009-11-05 04:50:04 PM  
Fox just won't let up on the terrorism angle. I guess they're right in a sense but they are basically questioning the FBI's comment about this not being related to terrorism.
 
2009-11-05 04:50:07 PM  
queenb4biatch: ravenlore: Unconfirmed reports of shots fired at Cuma Village and Liberty Village?

KCEN is saying the same thing on msnbc.com


Yeah, that's where i got it.

Also: RT @NewsChannel10 New reports now say 12 people dead in the Fort Hood Shooting, one may be the shooter. Many others wounded.
 
2009-11-05 04:50:08 PM  
WalMartian: They use contracted security agencies, the local one here is Coastal Security, and I think other posts use the same company.

I wonder if the loosened requirements for soldiers meant a drastically reduced pool of possible MPs. Because an Army base should not have the same security as a farking mini mall. That's outrageous. And we let Blackwater run amok in Iraq to boot...what a farking world.
 
2009-11-05 04:50:09 PM  
Stile4aly: Glenn Beck misses work and people die. Coincidence?

Has anyone been raped?


That, too, shouldn't have made me lol.
 
2009-11-05 04:50:10 PM  
This is most certainly a coordinated attack on whoever the hell. Anybody i guess? Trying to get the biggest killcount they can? Who knows. Wouldnt it be weird if 3 guys all went nuts on the same day?
 
2009-11-05 04:50:12 PM  
sboyle1020: Nogale: OK, I'm betting on a bizarre love/sex scandal with a healthy dose of mental illness thrown in.

With bodies stuffed in the wall?


I'm only predicting motives, not details. Would not surprise me if drugs were part of the equation, either.
 
2009-11-05 04:50:18 PM  
post commander is about to make a statement
 
2009-11-05 04:50:22 PM  
Speedofdarkness: Hender: muck4doo: I just heard that all the Jewish soldiers were told not to go to the base today.

I heard that the shooters were using super thermite.

I'm getting reports that all the victims had bullets put in them before the attach


That's funny. I'm hearing they weren't bullets. They were little cruise missiles. Also, the last of the gunmen was shot down by the Air Force before reaching his intended target.
 
2009-11-05 04:50:23 PM  
So like 10 or so people died. Perspective people, perspective.
 
2009-11-05 04:50:26 PM  
GoodasGold: More than one shooter seems to indicate the possibility of terrorism to me.

We'll have to wait to see what their skin color is before we can make that determination.
 
2009-11-05 04:50:26 PM  
ekdikeo4: MSNBC reporting that it was an officer that they have in custody

I thought it was indicated as a man in an officer's uniform, not for sure an officer.
 
2009-11-05 04:50:34 PM  
The guy on Fox News really wants this to be called an act of terrorism. How long until they can figure out how to blame Obama?
 
2009-11-05 04:50:43 PM  
Regardless of what happened, I hope they kill these cowardly f*cks. No trial, no appeal, no parole.

At least Darnell Hospital is right there and they have trained combat surgeons on staff to save as many of the wounded they can.
 
2009-11-05 04:50:49 PM  
rufus-t-firefly: Per CNN, shooters are "in military outfits." Source: Sen. Hutchison.

Now 12 people dead, 1 of which is a gunman.


I'm thinking that whoever is doing this is well trained. Like well trained enough to take out trained soldiers.

Meaning other soldiers.
 
2009-11-05 04:50:51 PM  
Ah. Now I see:

"We know the terrible impact and not knowing how it will end is gut wrenching right now," said Shine. "Fort Hood is set up as it's own city, they have their own fire, police, SWAT -- they have not requested police assistance from Killeen but they have asked for EMT and ambulance assistance."
 
2009-11-05 04:50:52 PM  
12 confirmed dead -CNN
 
2009-11-05 04:50:56 PM  
obamadidcoke: Here in Austin our state buildings are increasing security and people are starting to wisper terrorism. The Gov. and the Lt. Gov are about to get a brief from the Texas Ranger/FBI joint terrorism task force.

Spooky


There is one, and only one, kind of cop I'd be.

A Texas Ranger. That has to be a great job.
 
2009-11-05 04:50:58 PM  
So is this Obama's 9/11Lite?
 
2009-11-05 04:50:58 PM  
brainiac-dumdum: shooter is an army captain w/ an arabic 'sounding' name is being reported

This is Texas we're talking about. His name could end up being "Horowitz"
 
2009-11-05 04:51:09 PM  
pd771: ekdikeo4: MSNBC reporting that it was an officer that they have in custody

I thought it was indicated as a man in an officer's uniform, not for sure an officer.


I just called it as I heard it, I switched back to CNN, as they updated their death count.
 
2009-11-05 04:51:09 PM  
Mattix: Live feed from MSNBC: 500 troops now spreading out across the base.

It's a gopher hunt.
 
2009-11-05 04:51:13 PM  
Spoonfed'sBuddy: Skleenar: Spoonfed'sBuddy: Wrong question. The one we need to ask is:

Why aren't our troops, trained and trusted on the battlefield, allowed to carry on base?

Because people expect to get shot on the battlefield?

Evidently not the case. Bad things happen to good people in all kinds of places.


There is a difference between a reasonable expectation and a distant possibility.

I'm sure you might understand this concept.
 
2009-11-05 04:51:14 PM  
Remember, remember, the 5th of November, the gunpowder treason and plot. For there is no reason this gunpowder treason should ever be forgot.

/apt
 
2009-11-05 04:51:14 PM  
itazurakko: demonfaerie: Wow that is good, that in your town it does that. Does the ad say where it comes from like the military itself or some third party for the military or a party wanting to help this since the military doesn't do enough. I get really mixed messages on what is being done by who and all that jazz.

I'll have to check and get back to you - it could be the VA, I'm not sure (there's a VA hospital in the next town over). But it could also be local mental health, there are other posters with similar messages about how if you're overwhelmed with your kids or having other family issues, you can drop your kids here for a while and call this number, etc. Also don't let anyone shake your baby EVAR, etc.

Either way I agree it's an issue that takes cultural changes to solve. People don't like to admit weakness, when often admitting it is the first step to fixing it while things are still fixable. But if people fear (rightly OR not) that it will mess up their career path, they're afraid to.


Well either way it is a good thing the message is getting out there more.
 
2009-11-05 04:51:25 PM  
12 dead and my sources from Texas say that it was terrorism.
 
2009-11-05 04:51:26 PM  
Rick Perry speaking IS terrorism..
 
2009-11-05 04:51:28 PM  
Knight Errant: Contrabulous Flabtraption: GoodasGold: DarthBrooks: Suspect wearing officer's uniform:

Fort Knox is in Tennessee.

No, it's in Kentucky. You must be thinking of the Sun Sphere, which is in Knoxville. (there really is one)

It's in Guardia, not Knoxville.


images.frontdoor.com

Looks like Knoxville to me.


Yes, that's right, it's a sunsphere threadjacking
 
2009-11-05 04:51:30 PM  
Spoonfed'sBuddy:
The same way some Liberals see Osama Bin Laden as a freedom fighter akin to George Washington


Name three.
 
2009-11-05 04:51:33 PM  
queenb4biatch: post commander is about to make a statement

Wish I had a TV here. Can't stream at work either.
 
2009-11-05 04:51:41 PM  
jst3p: GameSprocket: AmazingRuss: alywa: So, who wants to guess what the top motive speculations will be? I'm not touching it.

for the lulz, of course

One of the shootings was at the theater, so maybe Paranormal Activity didn't live up to the hype.

Shootings at a theatre, that happens in DC every weekend doesn't it?


Ever since the days of Lincoln!
 
2009-11-05 04:51:44 PM  
brainiac-dumdum: brainiac-dumdum: shooter is an army captain w/ an arabic 'sounding' name is being reported

major rather


Major Major Major Muhammad?
 
2009-11-05 04:51:47 PM  
Let's look at the options:

Disgruntled soldiers (suicide pact unrelated to Obama or War)
PTSD soldiers (Purely related to War)
Birther/Vendetta soldiers (Purely related to Obama)
Random criminal conspiracy unrelated to Obama or War
Al Qaeda attack
Birther/Vendetta/9-11 civilians (Obama and/or Bush)


Any others?
 
2009-11-05 04:51:53 PM  
JustGetItRight:

If it is and they came over the Mexican border, Pelosi and pals might as well pack up and leave this afternoon.


You mean like how Bush immediately stepped down after the 20 or so guys got into the country, boarded planes and took them over and slammed them into NY and DC?
 
2009-11-05 04:51:55 PM  
Godscrack: Update: One of the captured shooters is a Major with A ARAB SOUNDING NAME

-MSNBC


You mean like "al bundy"?
 
2009-11-05 04:51:57 PM  
Thank god I have a German sounding name. No one farks with me!
 
2009-11-05 04:51:59 PM  
brainiac-dumdum: brainiac-dumdum: shooter is an army captain w/ an arabic 'sounding' name is being reported

major rather


Captain Over?
 
2009-11-05 04:51:59 PM  
NewportBarGuy: At least Darnell Hospital is right there and they have trained combat surgeons on staff to save as many of the wounded they can.

That is very fortunate.
 
2009-11-05 04:52:10 PM  
Just miles from your doorstep, hundreds of men are given weapons and trained to kill. The government calls it the "Army." But a more alarmist name would be The Killbot Factory.
 
2009-11-05 04:52:12 PM  
MSNBC is saying the guy in custody is a Major with an "Arabic" sounding name. Wow/crap.
 
2009-11-05 04:52:19 PM  
GameSprocket: jst3p: GameSprocket: AmazingRuss: alywa: So, who wants to guess what the top motive speculations will be? I'm not touching it.

for the lulz, of course

One of the shootings was at the theater, so maybe Paranormal Activity didn't live up to the hype.

Shootings at a theatre, that happens in DC every weekend doesn't it?

Ever since the days of Lincoln!


Touche`
 
2009-11-05 04:52:20 PM  
12 dead 31 wounded
 
2009-11-05 04:52:22 PM  
Guntram Shatterhand: WalMartian: They use contracted security agencies, the local one here is Coastal Security, and I think other posts use the same company.

I wonder if the loosened requirements for soldiers meant a drastically reduced pool of possible MPs. Because an Army base should not have the same security as a farking mini mall. That's outrageous. And we let Blackwater run amok in Iraq to boot...what a farking world.


If the killers were active military stationed on the base, no amount of security would have prevented them from getting into the base.

Once someone starts just killing people on a military base, it's too late for the MPs.
 
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