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(MSNBC) NewsFlash Shootings reported at Fort Hood Texas, multiple deaths reported. If only there were qualified people with guns nearby who could defend themselves   (msnbc.msn.com) divider line 2751
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2009-11-05 04:12:33 PM
EchoDork: Remember, Republicans: Having an armed populace prevents violence. Right? RIGHT?

I thought this wouldn't happen if citizens were permitted to carry.


/yeowm
 
2009-11-05 04:13:03 PM
Oh shiat.

/Just finding out about this
 
2009-11-05 04:13:05 PM
EdNortonsTwin: x1 shooter = deranged soldier or wash-out.

x2 or more - muslim extremists. Terrorist (domestic or foreign, take your pick)

/Two cents, I has um.


Inspiring terror through violence is not limited to Muslims.
 
2009-11-05 04:13:06 PM
This was a group of people who refuse to have their health care controlled by the government.
 
2009-11-05 04:13:06 PM
Treygreen13: Is Omarion ok?

I've been praying for him since the first headline was submitted, so yes.
 
2009-11-05 04:13:07 PM
Jonesy Boogieman: Stryyder: Jonesy Boogieman: CNN
At least seven people are dead and as many as 20 are wounded, CNN affiliate KXXV reported, citing a Fort Hood spokesman. One person is in custody in connection with the incident, it said.

One attacker has been "neutralized" and one has been "cornered," Lt. Gen Russel Honore, former deputy commander at Fort Hood, told CNN.

So Jihadist over the mexico border hitting a relatively soft target hoping the PR aspect of shooting up an army base is my guess...

I'm not familiar with Ft. Hood's location regarding the border, but you reminded me of a skit that, IIRC, was about terrorists being catapulted over the border into the US from Mexico with AK-47's. Anyways, I hope your guess isn't correct! If they could pull that off, they could do worse!


Remember the Clancy Novel wher they radomly hit a bunch of malls with uzi's
 
2009-11-05 04:13:13 PM
dittybopper: Dinki: Report is that one of the shooters is in custody. If it was Jihadists I doubt they would have someone in custody, they would have a body. Those guys don't usually give up.

They can be if disabled.


Disabled Jihadists? Like with cerebral palsy or something?
 
2009-11-05 04:13:16 PM
HOLY SHIAT DOLLAR GENERAL HAS A MOTHER F'ER

Report of suspect at the dollar general.

SHIAT JUST GOT REAL
 
2009-11-05 04:13:20 PM
itazurakko: clusterfrak: Someone with PTSD would probably be acting alone.

I feel really bad for the people with PTSD or even just normal "just returned and on edge" heebie jeebies that then had this happen right there back home.


Maybe it is ptsd terrorism.
 
2009-11-05 04:13:21 PM
Observatory: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: F*ck.

My heart goes out to my brothers and sisters in arms.

/Army Vet
//Got discharged (honorably) at Fort Hood



Wow...really? Golly-Gee, thank you soooooooo much for your service to our country. You're awesome.

farkin' tool.



Wow, what the hell is wrong with you?
 
2009-11-05 04:13:22 PM
KCEN in Killeen is reporting two suspects in custody with a third that "may" still be on the loose. Four SWAT members injuried. Post still in lockdown.
 
2009-11-05 04:13:22 PM
Interesting that this happened during a Graduation Ceremony. My son just recently graduated at Paris Island. I was able to drive on to the base with little scrutiny because of the volume of people arriving for graduation.
 
2009-11-05 04:13:31 PM
As always, I blame gangster rap, heavy metal music, and violent video games.
 
2009-11-05 04:13:31 PM
zootsuit: buh buh but don't guns prevent gun violence? I'm confused.

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Concealed carry and private guns are prohibited on US military bases.
 
2009-11-05 04:13:31 PM
Ironically, at least according to Wikipedia, the incident occured near the Soldier Readiness Center.

Otherwise I hear it's ignorance at Fort Bliss
 
2009-11-05 04:13:31 PM
I know a few people that work in that building, if it's the one I"m thinking of, the newbs go for in-processing, etc.

Hopefully they're all good...sucks when this stuff happens.

My guess it's either soldiers returning that wigged out, or soldiers that were going to re-deploy that wigged out...
 
2009-11-05 04:13:33 PM
My SO's at an Army base right now - - they're not on lock-down, so I guess either the DOD thinks it's a local matter, or (more likely) nobody's gotten around to thinking this could be more widespread.

/She works with guys who check out her car while carrying MP5s.

/Things are *very* polite at the entrance gate.
 
2009-11-05 04:13:34 PM
I was hoping this was a training excercise like the ones taking place on base in L.A. (LA AFB) a couple of weeks ago, but I guess this is the real deal. :(

/sad for the families of the fallen
 
2009-11-05 04:14:00 PM
I think after a certain time, it's socially acceptable to joke about a tragedy. But not while the tragedy is in progress.
 
2009-11-05 04:14:06 PM
DempseySR26: Haven't read all the post yet but....Soldiers and Marines on base don't carry around weapons, only the MP's do. All the weapons are locked up in the armory and paper work has to be done to withdraw a weapon for training. That goes for personal fire arms depending at least in 29 palms.

So gonna go with either Jihad, or crazy libs angry about last nights elections.


Psst... It's Thursday.
 
2009-11-05 04:14:11 PM
Hobodeluxe: "All Military"

The situation at Ford Hood is obviously extremely sketchy. But I wanted to flag a late report from MSNBC's Pete Williams suggesting that initial reports from within the Pentagon say the incident appears to be "all military," i.e., the victims are military but apparently the assailants are too.

I want to be very clear. There is nothing confirmed about this. This a reporter getting initial and unofficial reports from within the Pentagon. But authorities on the base do have one shooter in custody. So presumably military officials know who that person is and are drawing inferences based on that.

--Josh Marshall


I think they were saying that the assailants were wearing uniforms which means they may or may not be military
 
2009-11-05 04:14:16 PM
MorrisBird: I just got off the phone with my youngest. He had just left the building where the shooting occurred right before it happened. He's now on guard duty at the barracks. He says there's a lot of rumors, but nobody really knows what happened.

Praying he is safe. Military is a family. Please update if you get any more information.
 
paj
2009-11-05 04:14:25 PM
NBC's Texas affiliate saying the shooters were wearing military fatigues. Not necessarily soldiers, but wearing fatigues nonetheless.
 
2009-11-05 04:14:30 PM
veryunoriginal: How long until Fox says this is Obama's fault?

Well, he is the head of the military, and this was on his watch...
 
2009-11-05 04:14:47 PM
Unwonted: I think after a certain time, it's socially acceptable to joke about a tragedy. But not while the tragedy is in progress.

New to Fark, eh?
 
2009-11-05 04:14:48 PM
The important thing now is to get some lawyers down there to make sure the suspect isn't harshly interrogated.
 
2009-11-05 04:14:52 PM
yankees fans inconsolable about diverted attention
/end trolljack
 
2009-11-05 04:14:59 PM
FTFA: President Barack Obama was briefed on the shootings

Soooo...we should have a reaction by early 2010?
 
2009-11-05 04:15:15 PM
Treygreen13: Is Omarion ok?

He better be, I've been praying for him since the balloon boy incident
 
2009-11-05 04:15:19 PM
Has Jack Thompson blamed video games yet?
 
2009-11-05 04:15:25 PM
dittybopper: Dinki: Report is that one of the shooters is in custody. If it was Jihadists I doubt they would have someone in custody, they would have a body. Those guys don't usually give up.

They can be if disabled.


Yep. Some reports state he is 'injured'

We took Japanese POWs in WWII and they were every bit as determined as an islamic jihadist.
 
2009-11-05 04:15:34 PM
Observatory: The Jerk: Observatory: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: F*ck.

My heart goes out to my brothers and sisters in arms.

/Army Vet
//Got discharged (honorably) at Fort Hood



Wow...really? Golly-Gee, thank you soooooooo much for your service to our country. You're awesome.

farkin' tool.

No, you're the tool. Seriously, go kill yourself, I know you want to you miserable fark.

You have the most aptly named fark handle I have ever seen.


No, he was completely correct. You were being a giant douchenozzle for no reason whatsoever.
 
2009-11-05 04:15:37 PM
demonfaerie: They claim they are doing more to prevent ptsd, but if they are actually doing what they are claiming I have no idea. Got to ask Bob Woodruff on that one.

I've had to go through some of the same training that soldiers go through (I'm an Army civilian). There's required training on PTSD and it's effects and how to help the person. And they hand out "flash cards" on what to look for, and how to help.

But any kind of mental issue is often felt as a weakness, even when it's correctable. So soldiers are sometimes resisitant to admit they need help.
 
2009-11-05 04:15:39 PM
Hang On Voltaire: clusterfrak: But even if is an Army Columbine or worse, this will be spun against Obama for some stupid reason or other.

Why not? Obama blames Rush Limbaugh and Lou Dobbs for hate crimes against Hispanics


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2009-11-05 04:15:40 PM
Alacritous: Jim DiGriz: Any soldiers in training would probably have training immediately stopped, have ammo confiscated, and would be sequestered in a "safe area" until the situation is over

really? So "Oh no! we're under attack! everybody HIDE!"

Kind of Ironic for a military base, isn't it?


Well if you are on a military base, with at least one crazy guy in a military uniform running around shooting people, does sending a couple of thousand guys in the same uniform out to look for him seem like a good idea?
 
2009-11-05 04:15:50 PM
Unwonted: I think after a certain time, it's socially acceptable to joke about a tragedy. But not while the tragedy is in progress.

Go back to the farkives and see the Steve Irwin death thread. It doesn't take long for the internets to make callous jokes, that's just how it is.
 
2009-11-05 04:15:52 PM
My guess is more right wing birther/kookers.
 
2009-11-05 04:15:53 PM
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=2536 ? helpful ?
 
2009-11-05 04:15:55 PM
DFWPhotoGuy: HOLY SHIAT DOLLAR GENERAL HAS A MOTHER F'ER

Report of suspect at the dollar general.

SHIAT JUST GOT REAL


At least he didn't have to dress up like he was going to Walmart.
 
2009-11-05 04:16:01 PM
Observatory: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: F*ck.

My heart goes out to my brothers and sisters in arms.

/Army Vet
//Got discharged (honorably) at Fort Hood



Wow...really? Golly-Gee, thank you soooooooo much for your service to our country. You're awesome.

farkin' tool.


You sir, are an asshole.
 
2009-11-05 04:16:03 PM
Just got out of a meeting. I'm a little late to the thread. How many butt-hurt cry-babies have we had who are NOT finding humor in any of these comments?
 
2009-11-05 04:16:04 PM
CPT Ethanolic: I have a feeling we're going to be getting searched much more thou thoroughly at FT Sam tomorrow.

Hey, you're in SA? Shoot me an email- my user name at ultrafark. We can meet up for a beer sometime. I'm retired now, so it doesn't violate any stupid "fraternization" regs.

Also, Ft. Sam? The same Ft. Sam that let the friggin' Google Street View cars on post? I don't think you have too much to worry about. Ft. Sam doesn't really "do" security.
 
2009-11-05 04:16:05 PM
Veeoh: Lizardking: Guy Fawkes?
/OK, I dont even know who that is


Google Mutha Farker. Do you use it?


media.giantbomb.com

reMEMBER, remembER THE fifth OF novEMBer!!
 
2009-11-05 04:16:08 PM
I can believe the all military theory. It is fairly ease to gain access to an arms room where the weapons are stored. The ammo could be bought from a civilian store or some ammo that was being improperly stored with weapons. What is the most interesting is the "Major" rank.
 
2009-11-05 04:16:09 PM
And Mike Duoghty weeps....
 
mjg
2009-11-05 04:16:12 PM
mjg: Guess now I'll have to listen to Wolf Blitzer.

make me some tea
Do not want.

Wurdup.
 
2009-11-05 04:16:14 PM
hockeyfarker: Hot f*ck indeed.

Let's all join hands and thank God that I am okay.


Now we know Omarion's login.
 
2009-11-05 04:16:22 PM
Now KCEN says Fort Hood reporting two shooters in custody and there is no third suspect, only two in total. Four SWAT members injured. Still saying the suspects were wearing fatigues.

/Signing off now.
 
2009-11-05 04:16:35 PM
we need to arm more people there. simple
 
2009-11-05 04:16:43 PM
War is hell
 
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