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(MSNBC) NewsFlash Shootings reported at Fort Hood Texas, multiple deaths reported. If only there were qualified people with guns nearby who could defend themselves   (msnbc.msn.com) divider line 2751
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2009-11-05 03:49:36 PM  
Let's see how fast this is turned into political fodder both for and against Obama.
 
2009-11-05 03:49:36 PM  
Hearing 20 wounded now on Faux News...
 
2009-11-05 03:49:40 PM  
jbuist: alywa: So, who wants to guess what the top motive speculations will be? I'm not touching it.

With 3 reported shooters I'm gonna go with: Jihad.


I'm going with deluded secessionists.
 
2009-11-05 03:49:41 PM  
Event used for political purposes in 3.. 2.. 1...
 
2009-11-05 03:49:41 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2009-11-05 03:49:43 PM  
Marla Singer's Laundry: If this wasn't a God-hating gun-free zone, this wouldn't have happened!

You don't have the foggiest clue with gun rules are on base, do you?
 
2009-11-05 03:49:43 PM  
Ptsd or Terrorism? Or maybe a little of both
 
2009-11-05 03:49:55 PM  
How long until Fox says this is Obama's fault?
 
2009-11-05 03:49:58 PM  
If there really are three shooters, then I would guess it's a terrorist attack. White supremacists or islomofascists.
 
2009-11-05 03:49:58 PM  
For the record, when I was in the military we had to keep our personal weapons in the armory.
 
2009-11-05 03:49:59 PM  
whoever this was had to not only show ID at the gate, but have DoD decals on their car to get in without a vehicle search. My guess not terrorists but disaffected soldiers (fwiw). Ft Hood was my last duty station a year ago, so this hits close to home.
 
2009-11-05 03:50:04 PM  
jiggs: WTF is it with that area? Waco, Luby's, Ft. Hood...
Grew up in Temple, TX.


It's all Bush's fault.

/ducks head
 
2009-11-05 03:50:09 PM  
zootsuit: buh buh but don't guns prevent gun violence? I'm confused.

It is illegal to be on base and armed, unless in the line of duty, such as MPs. Your lack of military training is showing.
 
2009-11-05 03:50:11 PM  
Marla Singer's Laundry: If this wasn't a God-hating gun-free zone, this wouldn't have happened!


(how was that?)


Actually, when soldiers come in from the field, they have to take the firearms to the armorer and lock them up. Soldiers in barracks are not allowed privately owned firearms, so, basically, you are correct - it is a gun free zone. You may now join SUBMITTARD on the short bus.
 
2009-11-05 03:50:16 PM  
JustGetItRight: Unless you're looking at a situation like the Fort Dix terror plot where they actually managed to pull it off.

Perhaps, but trying to think like a terrorist here, if you want to blow up U.S. troops it'd be far easier to do so in Iraq or Afghanistan.

My wild speculation is a lone nut who snapped, as happens from time to time unfortunately.
 
2009-11-05 03:50:22 PM  
Kileen TX, sound familiar for another crime, what was it?
 
2009-11-05 03:50:23 PM  
ne2d: No doubt something that confirms my own various political beliefs.

+1
 
2009-11-05 03:50:24 PM  
How much do you bet it's a distraught soldier who came back from Iraq with severe mental issues?
 
2009-11-05 03:50:24 PM  
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Wow, Michele Bachmann wasn't kidding this time
 
2009-11-05 03:50:31 PM  
Goddamn anarchists! Wasn't Pittsburgh enough for you!
th01.deviantart.com
 
2009-11-05 03:50:36 PM  
RT LjTx RT @ghawi: Killeen PD/ Fort Hood PD /EMS Channel live stream: http://tinyurl.com/yjdax9w
 
2009-11-05 03:50:38 PM  
We have several employees out there, all accounted for except for 1. We are worried as the shootings occurred in the building he was working in.
 
2009-11-05 03:50:38 PM  
alywa: So, who wants to guess what the top motive speculations will be? I'm not touching it.

I'm betting it was members of the gay brigade out of Maine getting revenge.
 
2009-11-05 03:50:54 PM  
PEW PEW PEW
 
2009-11-05 03:50:56 PM  
This is close to Killeen,TX......where a few years ago some crazed Republican drove his vehicle into a McDonalds and opened fire, killing scores of people. What year was that? FARK Texas.
 
2009-11-05 03:51:08 PM  
Apparently (according to CNN) there are indeed multiple shooters, except they keep saying "not sure" after saying it. My guess it that it's one guy (or guys) with some serious PTSD issues going batshiat, as the one of the biggest military mental health centers is there.
 
2009-11-05 03:51:19 PM  
A congressman told MSNBC that a graduation ceremony may have been taking place at the time of the shooting.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2009-11-05 03:51:23 PM  
Someone read the report about 75% of the recruits being overweight, and knew they'd have easy targets.
 
2009-11-05 03:51:26 PM  
Better the blaze-of-glory types go after some people their own size than a school full of unarmed teenagers.
 
2009-11-05 03:51:27 PM  
Cheney wasn't bird hunting near the base was he?
 
2009-11-05 03:51:33 PM  
I'm just waiting for the report that they are fighting back against an illegal commander in chief and refusing to be deployed.. the freeper and birther posts would be a goldmine.
 
2009-11-05 03:51:35 PM  
Wow, wtf is going on?
 
2009-11-05 03:51:48 PM  
timmy_the_tooth: alywa: So, who wants to guess what the top motive speculations will be? I'm not touching it.

Having been in the Army, I'm going with infidelity.


So the turrists are right! We are infidels!
 
2009-11-05 03:51:51 PM  
Wouln't it be weird if was actually gang violence.
Link (new window)
 
2009-11-05 03:51:59 PM  
they're now saying centraltexasnow.com is the place to go for latest updates since the fort hood site is down.

also, Nov. 5th
 
2009-11-05 03:52:04 PM  
OK, let's round up the usual suspects for this tragedy. Votes anyone?

(A) Disgruntled Army soldiers;
(B) Domestic terrorists;
(C) Foreign terrorists; or
(D) Military dependents?
 
2009-11-05 03:52:10 PM  
3 shooters. That's an attack.
 
2009-11-05 03:52:22 PM  
Headso: Is it terrorism if they are attacking a military target?

Good question. Technically, maybe, but if the shooters were not uniformed then they would be war criminals. So either way they're farked.
 
2009-11-05 03:52:23 PM  
Jamespoon: Right now they're celebrating Guy Fawkes Night in England, aren't they?

Contrary to what the movie 'V' would have you believe - Guy Fawkers day celebrates his getting caught and killed for treason. Not his attempts to overthrow government.
 
2009-11-05 03:52:31 PM  
jbuist: alywa: So, who wants to guess what the top motive speculations will be? I'm not touching it.

With 3 reported shooters I'm gonna go with: Jihad.


Just what I was thinking. Already have a couple of exposed plots around the country concerning this very type of attack against our military at home.
 
2009-11-05 03:52:43 PM  
He's not answering his phone...
 
2009-11-05 03:52:46 PM  
Observatory: This is close to Killeen,TX......where a few years ago some crazed Republican drove his vehicle into a McDonalds and opened fire, killing scores of people. What year was that? FARK Texas.

Not to mention the Luby's incident! Stay away from Temple and Killeen, TX
 
2009-11-05 03:52:51 PM  
jbuist: Marla Singer's Laundry: If this wasn't a God-hating gun-free zone, this wouldn't have happened!

You don't have the foggiest clue with gun rules are on base, do you?


It's a joke. Didn't think anyone in here was dumb enough to miss it, especially the part where I said it was a joke.

But, enlighten us, Internet Twaddle-Pump. No, not now...go put on your Desert Storm-era camos before you start typing.

Christ.
 
2009-11-05 03:52:52 PM  
Keep with the updates. Any info is appreciated.
 
2009-11-05 03:52:54 PM  
CNBC is saying they're military personel, victim and shooter alike. With the usual disclaimer afterwords.
 
2009-11-05 03:52:55 PM  
jbuist: alywa: So, who wants to guess what the top motive speculations will be? I'm not touching it.

With 3 reported shooters I'm gonna go with: Jihad.


With no pizza delivered?
 
2009-11-05 03:53:05 PM  
jiggs: WTF is it with that area?

Waco, Luby's, Ft. Hood...

Grew up in Temple, TX.


then you tell us :)
 
2009-11-05 03:53:06 PM  
Jonesy Boogieman: CNN
At least seven people are dead and as many as 20 are wounded, CNN affiliate KXXV reported, citing a Fort Hood spokesman. One person is in custody in connection with the incident, it said.

One attacker has been "neutralized" and one has been "cornered," Lt. Gen Russel Honore, former deputy commander at Fort Hood, told CNN.


So Jihadist over the mexico border hitting a relatively soft target hoping the PR aspect of shooting up an army base is my guess...
 
2009-11-05 03:53:06 PM  
Remember the 5th of November!
 
2009-11-05 03:53:12 PM  
WxGuy1: How much do you bet it's a distraught soldier who came back from Iraq with severe mental issues?

Or a soldier with severe mental issues about to be sent to Iraq.

Or maybe it was just a classic case of "Crazy"

/Remember kids: Don't stick it in the crazy
 
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