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(The Hill)   Letter to Harry Reid (D-umbass) from former Surgeon General C. Everett Koop causes security scare that shuts down Senate   (thehill.com) divider line 78
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2009-11-04 11:18:30 PM
This could have been avoided if Reid used Life Alert.
 
2009-11-04 11:22:29 PM
I actually agree with what he's saying. I'm disappointed that I haven't seen evidence of more of the really impressive people in the medical field involved at a higher level.

I know that what they're trying to do is reform health insurance, not health care, but health insurance is a subset of health care; how something is paid for affects its utilization, and connects it to health care in general.
 
2009-11-04 11:30:32 PM
Obdicut: I'm disappointed that I haven't seen evidence of more of the really impressive people in the medical field involved at a higher level.

They're not the ones that issue the bribes hold the purse. There's a reason that every insurance company and industry lobbyist has a seat at the table, but there's nary an actual practicing physician in sight.
 
2009-11-04 11:30:43 PM
I can't actually fault them for going to crash conditions after that. As noted in the article, someone fairly recently tried to kill a few Senators with an envelope filled with anthrax. All he had to do was give it to a staffer to prevent that. And there are people who are threatening Democratic leaders fairly regularly these days.
 
2009-11-04 11:35:59 PM
That's pretty sad. I wonder if it made it through the mail without postage or the Surgeon General just handed it off to someone to give it to him or something.
 
2009-11-04 11:42:44 PM
Gainer described the letter as typed and well-written, and addressed to Reid as well as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

That's my favorite line in the article.
 
2009-11-04 11:46:08 PM
Not sad at all. I would bet even money on harry reid getting the 2nd most amount of death threats right behind our President. The secret service was all over this as well the should be seeing that there are a bunch of crazy white teabaggers ready to make their mark.
 
2009-11-04 11:56:50 PM
vartian: That's my favorite line in the article.

Yeah. I was expecting a 'and on beautiful stationary'.
 
2009-11-05 12:01:12 AM
Outshined_One: This could have been avoided if Reid used Life Alert.

I don't know why I thought I would have a chance in hell to make this joke and be first to do so.
 
2009-11-05 12:05:11 AM
Complete overreaction....
 
2009-11-05 12:06:51 AM
Meant to post this:

www.fbi.gov
 
2009-11-05 12:24:50 AM
userserve-ak.last.fm

Koop-oop-ee-doop
 
2009-11-05 12:38:04 AM
He was just writing with all the latest medical poop.
 
2009-11-05 12:39:23 AM
I'm picking up on your partisan butthurt, subby.
 
2009-11-05 12:44:41 AM
bighasbeen: Koop-oop-ee-doop

Every time I hear his name I immediately think of that 'song'.

/came for the reference
//leave satisfied
 
2009-11-05 12:47:14 AM
Barakku: That's pretty sad. I wonder if it made it through the mail without postage or the Surgeon General just handed it off to someone to give it to him or something.

Um, the article explains all these things.
 
2009-11-05 12:49:13 AM

""There's no law about how to deliver a letter. I can appreciate all of the security that surrounds the leader, but this all could have been settled in a few minutes."

GAT_00: I can't actually fault them for going to crash conditions after that. As noted in the article, someone fairly recently tried to kill a few Senators with an envelope filled with anthrax. All he had to do was give it to a staffer to prevent that. And there are people who are threatening Democratic leaders fairly regularly these days.

"(Koop) told The Hill he gave the envelope to Sen. Orrin Hatch's (R-Utah) to deliver to Reid. A Hatch staffer then apparently dropped the letter off in a mailbox bin inside Reid's second-floor suite, just steps from the Senate chamber. Hatch's office did not have an immediate comment."


I'm confused about your post. He gave the letter directly to a pol, whose staffer delivered it to Reid. If they want some sort of letter delivery protocol (oh brother), they should set it up.


What's more confusing to me is the recent anthrax scares in Congress. Are you trolling or are there some more recent than the ones back in 2001-02?

 
2009-11-05 12:49:47 AM
So Reid reported it to security. Which he should of done.

Security made a big deal about it, and now it suppose to be all Reids fault?

Holy shiat, are the Republicans going to complain about everything, all the time?

Oh yes, they are they they did for Clinton.

They just complain and complain until people get sick of them complaining and vote them in office.

They are like babies throwing tantrums who won't shut up until they get what they want.
 
2009-11-05 12:53:10 AM
I bet Koop put that bomb on Reid's car too. He looks like a terrorist.
 
2009-11-05 12:53:41 AM
skinink: I'm confused about your post. He gave the letter directly to a pol, whose staffer delivered it to Reid. If they want some sort of letter delivery protocol (oh brother), they should set it up.

No he put it in Reid's mail box not to Reid. And actually if that is a federal mail box it IS ILLEGAL to put mail in it.

letter delivery protocol (oh brother)

Really you think an inter-office mail system is way out there? I guess you have never worked in a large company or have no clue how they work.
 
2009-11-05 12:55:38 AM
What was in the letter, Koop's mustache?
 
2009-11-05 12:57:50 AM
Fark It: Complete overreaction....

Agreed. I worked on the House side this summer and opened mail all the time from people that would just drop things off. The office buildings are public and that intern that handles the mail should have just opened it.
 
2009-11-05 01:06:47 AM
Corvus,

Rather transparent troll attempt.

Pitiful, actually.
 
2009-11-05 01:08:11 AM
Oooh, another farking fail-mitter article! Woo farking hoo!!! I just love fark for these farking fail-missions.

Having RTFA, I don't think that the -lable belongs to Reid in this (this from someone who face-palms a lot when he talks). One, Reid wasn't really involved. It was the postal staff in the office and staffers. The one who should get the -lable would be Hatch, R-tard, who was given the letter and didn't think to himself "Self, maybe I should put on this here blank envelope to Harry, from Koop".

GAH! Stupidity upon stupidity, upon stupidity.
 
2009-11-05 01:08:48 AM
The office buildings are public and that intern that handles the mail should have just opened it.

Exactly. No one cares if an intern contacts anthrax.
j/k
 
2009-11-05 01:10:59 AM
t3.gstatic.com

There is one who could unite them. One who could reclaim the throne of Gondor.
 
2009-11-05 01:11:49 AM
"I did write it, but I didn't mean anything nefarious and I'm sitting here smiling because it all seems to be a big buzz about nothing," Koop said by phone from his home in Hanover, N.H.

i34.tinypic.com
"Satan's sitting there, he's smiling!"
 
2009-11-05 01:13:48 AM
Corvus: skinink: I'm confused about your post. He gave the letter directly to a pol, whose staffer delivered it to Reid. If they want some sort of letter delivery protocol (oh brother), they should set it up.

No he put it in Reid's mail box not to Reid. And actually if that is a federal mail box it IS ILLEGAL to put mail in it.

letter delivery protocol (oh brother)

Really you think an inter-office mail system is way out there? I guess you have never worked in a large company or have no clue how they work.


You guessed wrong on both. What's the big deal with putting it in an interoffice envelope if it's coming from someone within? My "Oh brother" comment is that they will add unnecessary interoffice mail system complications because of this incident/overreaction. I know how a typical interoffice mail system works but since you seem to have special insight into it, educate me, Mr Schrute.
 
2009-11-05 01:16:36 AM
shamanwest:
GAH! Stupidity upon stupidity, upon stupidity.


I think you've had too much coffee. Seems like a rather silly comedy of errors, but it doesn't seem any one person actually did anything all that terribly stupid. It just worked out in the most humerous way possible.
 
2009-11-05 01:26:00 AM
Nightjars: shamanwest:
GAH! Stupidity upon stupidity, upon stupidity.

I think you've had too much coffee. Seems like a rather silly comedy of errors, but it doesn't seem any one person actually did anything all that terribly stupid. It just worked out in the most humerous way possible.


I agree, the situation on Capitol Hill was probably pretty hilarious...once they figured out everything was okay anyway.

I do have to wonder, though, what is with all the submissions where the submitters are obviously not reading ... the... article... wait a minute!

Oh, I understand. This is the fear that the media outlets, suffering because they're failing, will come after like sites like Google News and Fark. If we make headlines that makes people HAVE to RTFA in order to know what is going on, because god knows the headlines are inaccurate as hell, then they have no cause to come after Fark et al.

Viva la Fark!

Yay fail-mitters!
 
2009-11-05 01:26:50 AM
Oh, and I didn't have coffee.
Just Mt. Dew Voltage

/cause green mt dew sucks
//yuck
 
2009-11-05 01:27:48 AM
(D-umbass)

WTF does that have do do with anything?
 
2009-11-05 01:33:37 AM
whcrow Quote 2009-11-05 12:53:10 AM
I bet Koop put that bomb on Reid's car too. He looks like a terrorist

he's got a beard and used to work for reagan. That's all the evidence I need.
 
2009-11-05 01:39:49 AM
truth_is_stranger_than_fishin: Not sad at all. I would bet even money on harry reid getting the 2nd most amount of death threats right behind our President...


Really? I'd bet on Pelosi based on several things -- the AM radio & FNC opinion leaders' branding her as female-Satan-made-flesh for several years now, from how many times her name pops up in our Politics tab headlines for all those WND/Politico/WSJ op-ed/American Thinker links we love so much, from how many times this angry twit I know IRL twists up his face and angrily spits out her name several times a day out of the blue... Her name elicits the same Pavlovian response as the word "acorn" among the easily-led.
 
2009-11-05 01:49:25 AM
Link (new window).
 
2009-11-05 01:50:06 AM
Barakku: That's pretty sad. I wonder if it made it through the mail without postage or the Surgeon General just handed it off to someone to give it to him or something.

Yeah, I wonder too. I wish there was a link to an article or something that describes how the letter got there. It's too bad we only have a headline to go by here. I think the page that has all the headlines that people comment about should also have links to the articles they are talking about. I have always wondered why Fark is like that.
 
2009-11-05 01:51:19 AM
Harry Reid is a D-umbass. Weak leader.

DNRTFA

/democrat
 
2009-11-05 01:52:05 AM
I thought the NeoCons would have had Koop strung out over an anthill by now.

After all C. Everett Koop as Surgeon General was PRAGMATIC about his job and recommended ....gasp.... CONDOMS instead of getting all religious abstinence uptight way back when. Sure maybe he was allowed to get away with that back in "Big Tent" Reagan days, but that's NOT HOW WE ROLL in the NeoCon Age. If you don't to every line to the FAR right then you must be a RINO deserving of excommunication for your lack of purity.
 
2009-11-05 01:59:01 AM
To paraphrase supportive people on fark:

It is ok to be paranoid idiotic farktards, so long as it is our side that is doing it!!!

Republican going ballistic about letter from suspected Al Qaeda terrorist: bad!

Democrat going ballistic about letter from suspected teabagger terrorist: good!

Proof that once your brain gets poisoned by political partisan thinking, you are pretty much brain dead.
 
2009-11-05 02:10:06 AM
sseye: Harry Reid is a D-umbass. Weak leader.

DNRTFA

/democrat


Second. I hate Pelosi and Reid, because they're incapable of actually leading the herd of cats that is the modern Democratic Party.
 
2009-11-05 02:23:20 AM
Occam's Chainsaw: sseye: Harry Reid is a D-umbass. Weak leader.

DNRTFA

/democrat

Second. I hate Pelosi and Reid, because they're incapable of actually leading the herd of cats that is the modern Democratic Party.


Yeah. Is it just me, or do the Dems act like teenagers on a first date? You know, where you look and go "Oh my god, I can't believe I'm on this date. I hope I don't screw it up." and so, you do nothing at all, don't act like yourself, and don't say anything interesting, do anything interesting, and just cause a boring date.

You know what I'm really afraid of? That the Dem's will end up doing-nothing themselves right out of office in '12. Pundits keep going on about how the Republicans are sabotaging themselves, but the Dems seem bound and determined to give them the elections.

D-umbasses.
 
2009-11-05 02:40:39 AM
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2009-11-05 03:03:58 AM
Best line: "I did write it, but I didn't mean anything nefarious and I'm sitting here smiling because it all seems to be a big buzz about nothing," Koop said

You can say what you like about the man's beard and whatever, but he is one of the most nefarious Republicans around. I can well imagine he did more than just smile; he probably laughed his 90-year old ass off.
 
2009-11-05 03:10:11 AM
Does the Surgeon General command other surgeons? Is he allowed to call up his reserve medical team of surgeons from around the country? Does his power only extend to surgeons who are already in the military or can he conscript surgeons from anywhere? Can he force his army of surgeons to fight or are his powers restricted to commanding operations and other surgical procedures?
 
2009-11-05 04:03:28 AM
truth_is_stranger_than_fishin: ...crazy white teabaggers ready to make their mark.

Amusingly, you probably don't even realize you're a racist ass.

That aside, Koop came off pretty well in the article. His opinion seemed pretty reasonable.
 
2009-11-05 04:10:50 AM
Toonol: truth_is_stranger_than_fishin: ...crazy white teabaggers ready to make their mark.

Amusingly, you probably don't even realize you're a racist ass.

That aside, Koop came off pretty well in the article. His opinion seemed pretty reasonable.


Because he really didn't state one.

Don't get me wrong, he's pretty much the only person associated with the Reagan administration I respect, but he didn't really take a stand either way in the article.
 
2009-11-05 04:17:55 AM
shamanwest: You know what I'm really afraid of? That the Dem's will end up doing-nothing themselves right out of office in '12.

Might as well write off the republic at that point. The absolute worst thing we could do at this juncture is reward the GOP for not being Democrats. They'll be convinced that their antics worked, that all we want is more of the same, and they'll dial the authoritarian talibangical wackiness up to 11.
 
2009-11-05 04:35:59 AM
Koop, 93, the Reagan administration's surgeon general...

When I'm 93, I hope I can still type well written letters to my congressional overlords.

Always liked Dr. Koop. Sanest member of Ronnie's posse.
 
2009-11-05 04:41:20 AM
cptjeff: Because he really didn't state one.

Agreed, but that's the article, I'd love to read what he actually wrote. My guess is that it was a "be wary of such and such consequences," type of letter.

The actual issue strikes me as a Hatch staffer putting the letter in the wrong mailbox or something similar. And this being a sort of rookie protocol mistake that led to an understandable panic due to a piece of mail showing up in the wrong box. (I don't fault the staffers either, Hatch's or Reid's)
 
2009-11-05 04:46:19 AM
Dude, any dumbass intern knows that an unmarked envelope needs to be handed to the (Rep|Sen)'s staff with information about it's origins. You don't just drop unmarked mail off and hope that shiat gets delivered. fark the security situation - if that doesn't make it to it's intended recipient, it's your ass.
 
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