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2009-11-03 10:55:59 PM
Harry Paratestees: CNN sees it differently

um, that's NY. This is about NJ. /jerseyAccent Get your corrupt politicians straight there buddy /endJerseyAccent
 
2009-11-03 10:56:00 PM
Well at least his house is nice and it's outside of Princeton. I could handle moving back to NJ if it meant living there.
 
2009-11-03 10:56:24 PM
Republicans did good? They won Virginia, which historically goes against the party in power (that's the reason they've had a Democratic governor the past 12 years). New Jersey, the state with the highest property taxes, a Governor mired in corruption and with the stench of Wall Street coming off of him, polling at sub-40% approval, barely goes Republican (Christie will barely hit the 50% mark, if at all).

But never mind that. THE REPUBLICANS FINALLY WON SOMETHING! The ONLY explanation is that voters in local races are FED UP with Obama.

How's that NY-23 race going for you guys? That seat that's gone Republican every years since around the time of the Civil War? What's that? The Taliban wing of the GOP pushed the locally selected Republican candidate out, in favor of a third party candidate who did not live in the district, and couldn't answer a single question about what was near and dear to the voters of the district he wanted to represent, how did that turn out?

The Democrat is winning? You gave up a seat that your party has safely held for more than half of our country's history, and you think you should be celebrating?

Good luck in 2010. I'm a liberal, but I don't like one-party rule.
 
2009-11-03 10:56:43 PM
this just shows that the GOP as a party needs to push further rightward. they must purge all moderates and RINO's from the party. this is a vindication of the palinist wing! rightward ho!
 
2009-11-03 10:57:20 PM
Republicans will claim this is a referendum on Obama, but of course it won't be a sign from the people that they want more liberal Republicans like Christie.
 
2009-11-03 10:58:04 PM
soy_bomb: This just proves that Republicans are a regional party catering to Southern mouth breathers.

In New Jersey?
 
2009-11-03 10:59:20 PM
RminusQ: The NJ Stonewall Democrats sent me a mailer that said "Don't grumble about what the Democrats AREN'T doing for our community."

That's the kind of attitude that gets you a Republican governor.

Luckily the Democratic legislature will make it very hard for Christie to push his agenda.


No it's the kind of attitude that keeps getting you kicked in the nuts by a party that grabs your votes and then tells you to eat shiat after the election is over.

That's why many conservatives have left the Republican party, why the Libertarians walked out when Nixon was nominated, and why folks like Lieberman and others are leaving the Democrats.

Time for new parties, the old ones are smelling like month old dead whale.
 
2009-11-03 11:00:19 PM
tomWright: Giltric: I can't believe the Democrat lost to a fat guy without a plan.

Sometimes the demon you know is so bad the demon you don't is worth the chance. Remember that Corzine is a Wall Street insider and part of that whole cohort of criminals that led up to the financial crisis.

But remember, all the votes are not in. Depending on how close the first final tally is, the absentee and cadaver-American vote will be important. Especially in Union/Hudson/Essex counties where you can be a zombie voter for decades before anyone notices.


/Voted for Kaplan


Yeah he was only an "insider" till he got fired then he was outside.....sitiign in his limo pretending he still worked there according to some sources.....

Gotta at least give Corzine some credit.....he claimed he would be a 1 term govenor when he won 4 years ago...and he said he would let his record speak for itself if he was to seek a 2nd term....guys a modern day Nostradamus.


/live coverage at nj1015.com
 
2009-11-03 11:00:39 PM
The Media is doing a wonderful job of carrying the GOP water while the Party burns.

They can't be truly powerful without at least two Parties to play off against each other.
 
2009-11-03 11:00:54 PM
Fark It:
How's that NY-23 race going for you guys? That seat that's gone Republican every years since around the time of the Civil War? What's that? The Taliban wing of the GOP pushed the locally selected Republican candidate out, in favor of a third party candidate who did not live in the district, and couldn't answer a single question about what was near and dear to the voters of the district he wanted to represent, how did that turn out?


Whoa whoa whoa. Doug Hoffman knows all about that district. He worked at Lake Placid for the Olympics. The same year we beat Russia in Hockey and Reagan won the presidency. If that doesn't scream NY 23 then I don't know what.
 
2009-11-03 11:01:13 PM
Fark It: How's that NY-23 race going for you guys?

Something tells me that if the Democrat wins it won't be considered a referendum on right-wing nutbar politics the way the other races are considered referendums on Obama/Democrats. In fact if the Democrat wins you probably won't hear much about it at all, because it won't fit the insta-narrative being pushed right now.
 
2009-11-03 11:01:18 PM
JerseyTim: Republicans will claim this is a referendum on Obama, but of course it won't be a sign from the people that they want more liberal Republicans like Christie.

i37.tinypic.com
I don't know why anyone would think about Obama in relation to this race...
 
2009-11-03 11:01:52 PM
moops
Will Christie even make it four years without keeling over from morbid obesity? Seriously, the guy probably sweats when he eats

Hardly morbid, large yes. But when you can't debate the message, attack the man. Ad hominem attacks; the last resort of the mentally deficient, the morally corrupt, the scholastic incompetent, and the person trying to defend from an inferior position.

/Oh yeah? Says who? Your mama do... I'm like rubber and you're like glue. It bounces off me and sticks on you.
 
2009-11-03 11:02:15 PM
Sshhh....
Corzine is thanking his losing team.
 
2009-11-03 11:02:35 PM
So, does this mean there won't be any more tea parties in this area? Or will they just be given state funding now?

Seriously, it's great to get rid of Corzine, but I'm not so sure Christie was the best answer. Oh well, we'll wait and see.

Of course, the Asbury Park Press website comments are freeper heaven now. This Christie 49% landslide over Corzine's 45% speaks volumes above the very close 53% Obama win over McCain.

Becoming a hermit never sounded so intriguing.
 
2009-11-03 11:03:00 PM
Digitalstrange: soy_bomb: This just proves that Republicans are a regional party catering to Southern mouth breathers.

In New Jersey?


www.textually.org
Obviously a Confederate stronghold.
 
2009-11-03 11:04:14 PM
Fark It: couldn't answer a single question about what was near and dear to the voters of the district he wanted to represent, how did that turn out?


You mean like Caroline Kennedy or Hillary Clinton?
 
2009-11-03 11:04:40 PM
soy_bomb: JerseyTim: Republicans will claim this is a referendum on Obama, but of course it won't be a sign from the people that they want more liberal Republicans like Christie.


I don't know why anyone would think about Obama in relation to this race...


Corzine staffers claim they were giving frequent updates to Obama all night.......
 
2009-11-03 11:04:52 PM
I'm going to throw this out there and see who agrees:

Republicans are effective at getting their goals accomplished when in power, the problem is that those goals are horribly unethical so we end up with a terrible government. Then the pendulum swings to the left and we switch to Democrats.

Democrats espouse lots of viewpoints which are humanitarian and liberal, often more ethical, but the party is so horribly corrupt that even with a supermajority they somehow pretend like they can't pass anything.

Liberals are left with a useless party, and moderate conservatives have seen theirs, which is effective, get hijacked by the loony brigade. The pendulum keeps swinging left to right over a few election cycles.
 
2009-11-03 11:05:19 PM
Pretty classy concession speech.

/and that's all I have to say about that
 
2009-11-03 11:05:31 PM
soy_bomb: JerseyTim: Republicans will claim this is a referendum on Obama, but of course it won't be a sign from the people that they want more liberal Republicans like Christie.


I don't know why anyone would think about Obama in relation to this race...


Corzine ran a filthy, cynical campaign. He was polling in the 30s before the election. There was no one who went to the polls with Obama in mind. New Jersey voters care about one thing and one thing only: property taxes.
 
2009-11-03 11:05:49 PM
LOL BOTH SIDES R SAME!

/someone should make a picture, get this meme going proper.
 
2009-11-03 11:06:22 PM
Fark It: Republicans did good? They won Virginia, which historically goes against the party in power (that's the reason they've had a Democratic governor the past 12 years). New Jersey, the state with the highest property taxes, a Governor mired in corruption and with the stench of Wall Street coming off of him, polling at sub-40% approval, barely goes Republican (Christie will barely hit the 50% mark, if at all).
.


1. Obama won Virginia by 4-5 points and now 1 year later the gov loses by 20. That is a real swing.
2. I don't think clinton hit the 50% mark for one of his terms so I wouldn't hold that against Christie either.
3. How did NJ end up with such high property taxes? Did it just magically happen?
 
2009-11-03 11:06:52 PM
Do we have a trifecta in play?
 
2009-11-03 11:06:58 PM
haplo53: Fark It: How's that NY-23 race going for you guys?

Something tells me that if the Democrat wins it won't be considered a referendum on right-wing nutbar politics the way the other races are considered referendums on Obama/Democrats. In fact if the Democrat wins you probably won't hear much about it at all, because it won't fit the insta-narrative being pushed right now.


No shiat. CNN has been pushing this narrative. I had to turn it off after Anderson Cooper basically started to lick Ari Fleischer's taint. Mumbly McOldmanpants and Token started to take him to task for claiming that the GOP hardliners pushing out the Republican in NY23 wasn't about social issues, that it was economic, and good for the party.

Think about it. If the numbers for Maine hold up, we'll have the first victory for gay rights by popular vote, EVER, and the GOP will lose a seat they've held safely for almost 150 years, despite the outside influence of arch-conservative GOP politicians and their anti-equality allies.

This was hardly a victory for the GOP.
 
2009-11-03 11:07:31 PM
Don't read much into this. You have to really motivate your base in an off election year. Republican base is highly motivated. Dems are a bit fat...oops hust saw picture of Chris Christie.
 
2009-11-03 11:07:35 PM
tenpoundsofcheese: 3. How did NJ end up with such high property taxes? Did it just magically happen?

Progressive values.
 
2009-11-03 11:07:57 PM
Has there ever been a race involving two more corrupt asshats? Too bad they both couldn't have lost.
 
2009-11-03 11:08:04 PM
I want to cockpunch Subby, and whichever silly admin picked this headline.

/Suck it, libs!
//WHERE IS YOUR FSM NOW?!
 
2009-11-03 11:08:35 PM
soy_bomb
This just proves that Republicans are a regional party catering to Southern mouth breathers.


This Southern mouth breather is collecting your tears to eat on my fried mush in the morning. Saves on the molasses, y'all. Thanks for the sweet'n Sugar.
 
2009-11-03 11:09:01 PM
haplo53: Fark It: How's that NY-23 race going for you guys?

.


if that is all the hope you can hang on to, you can have it.
 
2009-11-03 11:09:09 PM
JerseyTim: soy_bomb: JerseyTim: Republicans will claim this is a referendum on Obama, but of course it won't be a sign from the people that they want more liberal Republicans like Christie.


I don't know why anyone would think about Obama in relation to this race...

Corzine ran a filthy, cynical campaign. He was polling in the 30s before the election. There was no one who went to the polls with Obama in mind. New Jersey voters care about one thing and one thing only: property taxes.


Yeppers. Parents paid 16K last year and here I am grumbling about dropping 900 here in AZ.
 
2009-11-03 11:09:10 PM
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2009-11-03 11:09:11 PM
GomezAdams: //Where's your Palin, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Fox News hate contempt now, Libs?

Still intact, since it currently looks like your clowns idols appear to have fumbled the ball in upstate New York. Thanks for asking.
 
2009-11-03 11:09:24 PM
Digitalstrange: Hence the old saying that politicians are like diapers. They should be changed often and for the same reason. Thats both Pubs and Dems

Corzine was pretty meh, anyway. Though he did have some political courage and got rid of capital punishment which is a huge plus for me.
 
2009-11-03 11:10:19 PM
Lackadaisical: fund

Hey, if the Dems can state-fund ACORN, the Reps can state-fund the Tea partyers.

/Doubt it though, the Tea partyers are the ones that brought down scozzawhatevah. The RNC won't forgive that soon.
 
2009-11-03 11:10:36 PM
tomWright: Giltric: I can't believe the Democrat lost to a fat guy without a plan.

Sometimes the demon you know is so bad the demon you don't is worth the chance. Remember that Corzine is a Wall Street insider and part of that whole cohort of criminals that led up to the financial crisis.

But remember, all the votes are not in. Depending on how close the first final tally is, the absentee and cadaver-American vote will be important. Especially in Union/Hudson/Essex counties where you can be a zombie voter for decades before anyone notices.


/Voted for Kaplan


he was pushed out of goldman's in 98, the mess that caused this recession didn't start until after 2000.

robsul82: archichris: It wouldnt be a bad state if the northern southern part sort of broke off and sank.

FTFY

/Christie's just keeping the seat warm for Cory Booker anyway


yeah because our part of the state has all of the corruption, high density, and smell. why don't you just get annexed by new york already?

PianoJosh: robsul82: Christie's just keeping the seat warm for Cory Booker anyway

You think so? I'm not so sure. He's doing a fantastic job in Newark, and I think he wants to do more there. He turned down a position with the Obama administration to continue his Mayoral term, I'm pretty sure he's there for the long haul.


he will be the best politician right now to take on Christie 2.0 in 4 years. unlike christie, he hasn't used his office to break laws; nor was he appointed to his job because he was a fundraiser for bush.

Giltric: I can't believe the Democrat lost to a fat guy without a plan.

people in salem and cumberland counties are hick, and people in north jersey vote for whoever says less taxes.

Bonkthat_Again: Thank God. Corzine was worse than Florio.

All he did was fill his friends' pockets, raise taxes, and not die on the Parkway


really because christie gave his friends no bid contracts as us attorney general and hit someone going the wrong way down a one way street. oh and he broke ethic rules and didn't pay all of his taxes. and next year will be sued by monty pythons for copyright infringement.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/martin-lewis/chris-christie-rips-off-m_b_341598.h t ml

Bonkthat_Again: Not that Christie's going to improve things much...I just can't think of anyone doing worse than Corzine.

chrsitie 1.0? the high property taxes are partly her fault, she lowered income taxes and cut school funding.
 
2009-11-03 11:10:59 PM
A few hours ago the liberal media was saying we wouldn't know the winner until tomorrow, bwahahahaha! Corzine has already given his concession, and Christie is expected to speak in a few minutes.
 
2009-11-03 11:11:02 PM
I hope Christie stays true to his anti-corruption background as governor. He may not be my party, but he's my governor and I hope he does well.
 
2009-11-03 11:11:28 PM
gilgamesh23: Corzine was pretty meh, anyway. Though he did have some political courage and got rid of capital punishment which is a huge plus for me.

You sound stabby...
 
2009-11-03 11:12:02 PM
gilgamesh23: Corzine was pretty meh, anyway. Though he did have some political courage and got rid of capital punishment which is a huge plus for me.

Because New Jersey was killing prisoners left and right before Corzine took office, right? ROFL
 
2009-11-03 11:12:05 PM
tenpoundsofcheese: if that is all the hope you can hang on to, you can have it.

All hope is gone for Democrats. I hear Obama's resigning within the hour.
 
2009-11-03 11:12:18 PM
tenpoundsofcheese:
3. How did NJ end up with such high property taxes? Did it just magically happen?


School taxes, corrupt local townships and kick backs to construction. I believe they have been doing construction on I-78 since it opened up. They basically finish the length and then go back to the PA border and keep on building east. Someone's brother got one hell of a contract in the 70's.
 
2009-11-03 11:12:39 PM
Fark It: haplo53: Fark It: How's that NY-23 race going for you guys?

Something tells me that if the Democrat wins it won't be considered a referendum on right-wing nutbar politics the way the other races are considered referendums on Obama/Democrats. In fact if the Democrat wins you probably won't hear much about it at all, because it won't fit the insta-narrative being pushed right now.



This was hardly a victory for the GOP.


may not be a win for republicans but it is a resounding victory for conservatives. They got the rino to quit and ran a guy who may win 47% of the vote. That is a victory.
 
2009-11-03 11:12:42 PM
tenpoundsofcheese: Fark It: Republicans did good? They won Virginia, which historically goes against the party in power (that's the reason they've had a Democratic governor the past 12 years). New Jersey, the state with the highest property taxes, a Governor mired in corruption and with the stench of Wall Street coming off of him, polling at sub-40% approval, barely goes Republican (Christie will barely hit the 50% mark, if at all).
.

1. Obama won Virginia by 4-5 points and now 1 year later the gov loses by 20. That is a real swing.
2. I don't think clinton hit the 50% mark for one of his terms so I wouldn't hold that against Christie either.
3. How did NJ end up with such high property taxes? Did it just magically happen?


Obama was not running to be Governor of Virginia.

Here is the problem with using the results from New Jersey or Virginia tonight to judge the status of the national political environment. It's not so much that the races are "meaningless" in the abstract, but that ticket-splitting is so common in gubernatorial races that the noise swamps the signal....

...Public Policy Polling thinks that, in both New Jersey and Virginia, about 15 percent of Obama voters (the ones who bother to turn out) will vote Republican for governor, whereas about 5 percent of McCain voters will vote Democratic for governor. Those percentages, coupled with depressed turnout among their base, will almost certainly cost the Democrats Virginia and possibly New Jersey. But they're also well within the range of "normal" given the local circumstances intrinsic to gubernatorial campaigns -- similar, for instance, to what happened in Washington State last year.

To be clear, the fact that gubernatorial races are not a reliable benchmark does not mean the Democrats are not in trouble in 2010 -- whoa, too many double negatives there -- nor that Democrats might not have done better if Obama's approval rating was 62 percent instead of 52 percent. It just means that New Jersey and Virginia don't have particularly much informational value -- we won't become very much smarter about the future based on what happens there. To the extent that we do learn something, it will probably be hints about turnout, motivation and enthusiasm, rather than something about the electorate's policy preferences.
...


This isn't good news for Obama or Democrats in 2010, but it's not bad news wither. It's NOT news.
 
2009-11-03 11:12:43 PM
Democrats can try to hide if they want. But this is a reaction to their over reaching and there is no mistaking it. It is going to get worse if Pelosi and Reid continue.

This is not a referendum on the President, he can hardly get a word in edgewise, it is all about Pelosi and Reid. He is going to have to cut them loose just as they have cut him loose.
 
2009-11-03 11:12:46 PM
JerseyTim: New Jersey voters care about one thing and one thing only: property taxes spray-on tanner.

FTFY

Interesting take on NY1 a bit ago... Wall Street guys (Corzine and Bloomberg) seem to be getting a strong negative reaction tonight.
 
2009-11-03 11:13:16 PM
JerseyTim: soy_bomb: JerseyTim: Republicans will claim this is a referendum on Obama, but of course it won't be a sign from the people that they want more liberal Republicans like Christie.


I don't know why anyone would think about Obama in relation to this race...

Corzine ran a filthy, cynical campaign. He was polling in the 30s before the election. There was no one who went to the polls with Obama in mind. New Jersey voters care about one thing and one thing only: property taxes.


Well, actually, 20% had Obama in mind when they voted in NJ. Christie won that segment 88-7.

Was this a referendum on Obama? To an extent, yes. A GOP win in deep blue NJ is hardly a vote of confidence in the Democratic Party.
 
2009-11-03 11:13:20 PM
GaryPDX: tenpoundsofcheese: 3. How did NJ end up with such high property taxes? Did it just magically happen?

Progressive values.



No, no, no. Haven't you heard of the tax fairy? Like the tooth fairy only in reverse. You pay up or lose your teeth.
 
2009-11-03 11:15:06 PM
GomezAdams:

Oh yeah? Obama and the Dems thought it was so deny it all you want, the major Dem players already declared it so. All you libs stock up on butt hurt salve. Get enough to see you through 2010 and 2012. Maybe get the industrial size at Costco or Sams.

/Obama seen in the Oval Office sitting on a prostate patients donut cushion.
//Where's your Palin, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Fox News hate now, Libs?


Is this the same dumb post in thread after thread?

How sad.
 
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