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(Guardian) Dumbass The UK government is committed to getting expert advice, as long as they can safely ignore it   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 29
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2009-11-02 12:43:44 PM
That kind of summarizes how all governments act, unfortunately.
 
2009-11-02 02:31:10 PM
The phrase "sack Nutt" occurs three times in that article.
 
2009-11-02 03:08:55 PM
ne2d: The phrase "sack Nutt" occurs three times in that article.

It's British for rape.
 
2009-11-02 04:19:15 PM
That expert UK advice has no teeth.
 
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2009-11-02 04:21:27 PM
PumpUpDaFark: That expert UK advice has no teeth.

...

I see what you did there..
 
2009-11-02 04:21:56 PM
ne2d: The phrase "sack Nutt" occurs three times in that article.

I'm glad that Johnson was on top of that Nutt sack.
 
2009-11-02 04:47:28 PM
PumpUpDaFark: That expert UK advice has no teeth.

How does he smell?

Back on topic, the Government has pretty much ensured that they won't be able to pass a single policy on the basis of 'science' from now on. Not that they'll be in power in 6 months time. Labour have pretty much failed in every area of running the country (except possibly the NHS but they've thrown money at that and most of it was wasted on higher wages and middle management)
 
2009-11-02 04:52:23 PM
abigsmurf: Labour have pretty much failed in every area of running the country (except possibly the NHS but they've thrown money at that and most of it was wasted on higher wages and middle management)

Some of those wages (nurses spring to mind) seriously needed raising, though some famously didn't (hello GPs). Some truly spectacular wasting of money seems to have gone on in the part-privatised NHS computer systems.

In the (meagre) defence of Labour, the Conservatives would have the same on drugs except without the brief descent into almost sanity when cannabis went down to class C.
 
2009-11-02 04:58:12 PM
abigsmurf: PumpUpDaFark: That expert UK advice has no teeth.

How does he smell?

Back on topic, the Government has pretty much ensured that they won't be able to pass a single policy on the basis of 'science' from now on. Not that they'll be in power in 6 months time. Labour have pretty much failed in every area of running the country (except possibly the NHS but they've thrown money at that and most of it was wasted on higher wages and middle management)


This is true, but the saddest thing is the Conservatives agreeing with the government completely on this issue. Only the Lib Dems are speaking out against this, who are unfortunately never likely to form a government. A Lib/Lab pact in a hung parliament is the closest I can realistically hope for.
 
2009-11-02 05:32:47 PM
What a weird government you people have. Still, a multi-party system sure makes for some interesting stories.
 
2009-11-02 05:40:12 PM
Falcc: What a weird government you people have. Still, a multi-party system sure makes for some interesting stories.

Yeah, so weird - politicians ignoring scientific advice - that would never happen in the US!

Isn't this whole thing just copied from a plotline on the West Wing anyway? Though in that case the Surgeon General didn't get fired in the end. I'm pretty sure that was just based on an incident from the Clinton administration too.
 
2009-11-02 05:47:23 PM
When will UK farkers vote in force for the Lib-Dems? Are you guys merely afraid of a reanimated Lloyd George zombie reclaiming the Prime Ministership? You shouldn't worry about that since it probably won't even happen.
 
2009-11-02 05:53:10 PM
Redscum: A Lib/Lab pact in a hung parliament is the closest I can realistically hope for.

This is practically the only realistic situation that could come out of the next election that would make me smile. The Lib-Dems need to get their act together, they haven't been actively exploiting the implosion of the Labour government as well as the Tories have.
 
2009-11-02 05:53:54 PM
He_Hate_Me: When will UK farkers vote in force for the Lib-Dems? Are you guys merely afraid of a reanimated Lloyd George zombie reclaiming the Prime Ministership? You shouldn't worry about that since it probably won't even happen.

I wish we would, the problem is they aren't taken seriously enough, and there's the mindset of "why vote for them if they can't win?". But even considering that, god knows how Labour are still polling roughly equal or higher still.
 
2009-11-02 06:01:57 PM
Trefusius: I'm pretty sure that was just based on an incident from the Clinton administration too.

Probably the "masturbation is healthy for children" debacle.

Nevermind that fetuses are touching themselves in the womb, it's anathema to suggest such a thing!

I have an acquaintance that did a fellowship at the Mayo who says parents routinely notice that their children are touching themselves while still in the hospital after being delivered, in for a check-up, some procedure, etc. She has to strategically explain it away, because (perhaps unsurprisingly given the prudish nature of our society) if they hear their baby is playing with themselves, they get all weirded out.
 
2009-11-02 06:09:37 PM
UK is racing the US to the bottom. They're making a hell of a show of it too.
 
2009-11-02 06:53:31 PM
I tend to vote for lib dems and occasionally tory, but really there's no single party which doesn't have a fark everything up policy. I live in a district which has a high Lib-dem and conservative presence, and I get to choose from the lib-dems offering first word on policy to the EU, and rural conservatives shutting down anything which doesn't fit in with their opinion of what a town should have.

Seriously, they already forced out the sex shop and they're now blocking pound shops and those european cheap supermarkets (Lidl, Aldi) from being opened in town because they say that it would "lower the tone" of the place. As if the masses of empty shops doesn't do that already
 
2009-11-02 07:17:48 PM
Pixelvision: I tend to vote for lib dems and occasionally tory, but really there's no single party which doesn't have a fark everything up policy. I live in a district which has a high Lib-dem and conservative presence, and I get to choose from the lib-dems offering first word on policy to the EU, and rural conservatives shutting down anything which doesn't fit in with their opinion of what a town should have.

Seriously, they already forced out the sex shop and they're now blocking pound shops and those european cheap supermarkets (Lidl, Aldi) from being opened in town because they say that it would "lower the tone" of the place. As if the masses of empty shops doesn't do that already


There's somewhere like that near me, they got pissy over a poundland sign because it was "gaudy" (the same as every single other poundland sign) and ended up forcing them to change it, as well as blocking an Argos from taking over I think what was Woolworths.
 
2009-11-02 07:21:10 PM
It's not that shocking that Johnson was for the Nutt sack.
 
2009-11-02 07:48:05 PM
Nutt this shiat again.
 
2009-11-02 08:11:30 PM
The UK government is committed to getting expert advice, as long as they can safely ignore it


THAT's why the USA never asks anybody else's opinion
before they send men with guns to come between you from the planet

YOU SEE every altered state of consciousness is inherently EVIL
except for those approved (usually via payola) by the FDA



/it's like we live in a bad sci fi future
//men with guns stopping you from eating plants the earth is growing
///and growing on purpose
////for the sake of the planet


CUT!
 
2009-11-02 08:29:45 PM
www.bbc.co.uk

"Walk the F-ing line!"

I Highly reccomend this show to anyone.
 
2009-11-02 08:33:30 PM
Gsm136: "Walk the F-ing line!"

I Highly reccomend this show to anyone.


Ditto, as well as In The Loop.
 
2009-11-02 11:50:47 PM
St_Francis_P: That kind of summarizes how all governments act, unfortunately.

Kind of summarizes how corporations and people act too.
 
2009-11-03 02:27:29 AM
Gsm136: "Walk the F-ing line!"

I Highly reccomend this show to anyone.


Is that your farking chair? BIN IT. People don't like their politicians to be comfortable. They don't you like you having expenses, they'd rather you live in a cave.
 
2009-11-03 05:02:05 AM
Gsm136: "Walk the F-ing line!"

I Highly reccomend this show to anyone.


"Hello ladies, I heard there were sandwiches and I'm a farker for cress."
 
2009-11-03 07:02:57 AM
Gsm136: "Walk the F-ing line!"

I Highly reccomend this show to anyone.


NSFW language (naturally) (new window)
 
2009-11-03 10:55:34 AM
Redscum: Gsm136: "Walk the F-ing line!"

I Highly recommend this show to anyone.

Ditto, as well as In The Loop.


Hard to believe that they were allowed to use the actual number 10 (albeit just the front) for the film...
 
2009-11-03 11:45:05 AM
ne2d: The phrase "sack Nutt" occurs three times in that article.

That's nothing. From the sidebar today: Minister rows back over Nutt sacking
 
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