brainiac-dumdum: how many women's studies classes have you taken?

None, of course. However, keep in mind, I am not a penniless hippie.

Smelma_Kayak: I'm glad you've been talking about the third wave and getting past the backlash and stereotypes. There's some pretty interesting shiat going on. Don't let the vocation troll/haters get to you!

no way, I'm a feminist raised in Texas. That's far more difficult than fark.

halfof33: brainiac-dumdum: how many women's studies classes have you taken?

None, of course. However, keep in mind, I am not a penniless hippie.

Than how do you they are cesspools of lesbians and hairy armpits?

brainiac-dumdum: the past provides the context for the present. We're supposed to learn from history, remember?

History is bunk... we stand at the precipice of eternity!

brainiac-dumdum: Than how do you they are cesspools of lesbians and hairy armpits?

I also accidentally the whole thing too.

brainiac-dumdum: Look at business CEO and powerful ploiticians (there's more, but I'm keeping it brief), boys do not need the same help as girls need.

I'm not talking about politicians and CEOs that went through the public (or private) education system decades ago. I'm talking about boys like my nephew, who when asked about what they learned in school, look at the ground and tell me that girls can do better than boys at whatever they want. Children like him who never had any idea about -- nor any culpability for -- a sex-stratified educational system, being denied from extracurricular fields he's interested in because there aren't enough girls in the group.

Ficoce: brainiac-dumdum: halfof33: Hey, good for you! A one semester contract teacher lecturing us.

how many women's studies classes have you taken?

That's a sexist response right there. Women are much more sexist than men, they just don't realize it.

Just for you:

actually, no. Men are impacted by sexism.

Men are impacted in custody battles because for so long women were stereotypically considered a more natural parent, and men were supposed to bring home the bacon, but not fry it up in a pan.

Men get far harsher punishments for crimes than women.

Men are not allowed to show emotion, and must always be strong and stoic.

There have been movements to not allow children flying alone not to sit next to a man out of fear he may harm the child.

All of these, and more, are the result of sexism against women w/ serious blow back for men.

rigid gender roles hurt men and women.

The_Gallant_Gallstone: History is bunk

maybe you should visit your bunk and think about history and the context it provides

Kierkegaard's Pseudonym: brainiac-dumdum: Look at business CEO and powerful ploiticians (there's more, but I'm keeping it brief), boys do not need the same help as girls need.

I'm not talking about politicians and CEOs that went through the public (or private) education system decades ago. I'm talking about boys like my nephew, who when asked about what they learned in school, look at the ground and tell me that girls can do better than boys at whatever they want. Children like him who never had any idea about -- nor any culpability for -- a sex-stratified educational system, being denied from extracurricular fields he's interested in because there aren't enough girls in the group.

yick! this happens in europe? you're profile says you-re in denmark

The_Gallant_Gallstone: halfof33: Starbucks sells bowls of dicks now? Well hell, you'd know better than me. Remember, sweetie, I like my evening coffee pretty weak, not unlike a women studies major's post graduation employment prospects.

Dunno... when chicks get mad at each other, they tend to call each other sweetie... but sometimes old, creepy dudes do that too... this could be an awesome catfight (or not)

don't forget Obama

/no, it didn't offend me

Sygonus: Yes, all departments subscribe to certain widely held viewpoints. But I maintain that the level of groupthink/indoctrination is FAR higher in critical departments than it is in other faculties. If I had to put it on a spectrum, I think the level of viewpoint conformity probably goes critical faculties > humanities > social sciences > business > hard sciences (including engineering, chem etc.)

brainiac-dumdum: maybe you should visit your bunk and think about history and the context it provides

If I wasn't so sure you were a lesbian, I would swear you were coming on to me.

Kierkegaard's Pseudonym

You're almost there mate. And in today's society women, not by collective will but by the politics of a few political nuts, are the new overclass (beau word). Ask any guy facing a divorce, or any guy with cold feet about getting married (all of us).

/Wishes he knew a solution.
//Equal Rights for all the equal masses

konigsforst: yick! this happens in europe? you're profile says you-re in denmark

Kierkegaard was born in Copenhagen. I just jacked his name and birthplace.

This is funny.

Kierkegaard's Pseudonym: brainiac-dumdum: Look at business CEO and powerful ploiticians (there's more, but I'm keeping it brief), boys do not need the same help as girls need.

I'm not talking about politicians and CEOs that went through the public (or private) education system decades ago. I'm talking about boys like my nephew, who when asked about what they learned in school, look at the ground and tell me that girls can do better than boys at whatever they want. Children like him who never had any idea about -- nor any culpability for -- a sex-stratified educational system, being denied from extracurricular fields he's interested in because there aren't enough girls in the group.

I call BS, but on the off chance you're not full of schnit, someone needs to contact the proper people and correct that. Like you said, he has done nothing wrong.

A far better option would be to slowly roll back policies that are geared towards women, and direct those resources to help children in poverty w/ education

R.A.Danny: In fourteen hundred and ninety two
Columbus nailed a squaw of two

brainiac-dumdum: So why didn't your post contain one sentence that resembled "Yes, boys require the same sorts of advocacy that girls possess?"

because I don't think they do. They need advocacy, but not the same advocacy females do.

I'm pretty sure that's sexist.

The_Gallant_Gallstone: brainiac-dumdum: maybe you should visit your bunk and think about history and the context it provides

If I wasn't so sure you were a lesbian, I would swear you were coming on to me.

I'm not into caveman eunuchs.

brainiac-dumdum: Right_Drumstick_Wacko: Er, I thought I agreed with you that it is "wrong, wrong, wrong" in this case. My point is that there are some who try to say and believe there are NO differences at all between the sexes.

Who is saying that because I'm sure as schnit am not.

Right_Drumstick_Wacko: I have a particularly liberal guy friend who believes there is absolutely nothing that men are better at than women. When I suggested serial killing, he still refused to budge.

fascinating

Right_Drumstick_Wacko: For purposes of full disclosure, I am a guy.

congratulations

again, the second wave is over and Feminism has entered a new stage

Apparently it is a new stage of snarkiness and general disagreeableness. I am sure you will make enormous strides for your cause.

Tenure isn't going to be as bulletproof as it used to be, because a lot of Enormous State Universities are going to go the way of the automakers. They have economic models that make Enron look stable. Right now, there is a final surge of unemployed people going back to school, but once that is done, enrollment is going to be on a major down slope.

CornFedIowan: I, for one, wercome oul new ovelrolds.

I, for one, am glad to see someone who knows where his/her towel is. :->

konigsforst: Kierkegaard's Pseudonym: brainiac-dumdum: Look at business CEO and powerful ploiticians (there's more, but I'm keeping it brief), boys do not need the same help as girls need.

I'm not talking about politicians and CEOs that went through the public (or private) education system decades ago. I'm talking about boys like my nephew, who when asked about what they learned in school, look at the ground and tell me that girls can do better than boys at whatever they want. Children like him who never had any idea about -- nor any culpability for -- a sex-stratified educational system, being denied from extracurricular fields he's interested in because there aren't enough girls in the group.

yick! this happens in europe? you're profile says you-re in denmark

wait, what? Europe?

I assumed he's in the US (give me a break, I'm an American as well as a native Texan)

Well, I was basing my posts to Mr. Kierkegaard from an American perspective, and am not qualified to comment on the state of affairs in Europe.

brainiac-dumdum: I'm not into caveman eunuchs.

treesloth

I loled

'
All of these, and more, are the result of sexism against women w/ serious blow back for men.'
why do you think this? it is like you believe men invented sexism

brainiac-dumdum: I call BS, but on the off chance you're not full of schnit, someone needs to contact the proper people and correct that. Like you said, he has done nothing wrong.

A far better option would be to slowly roll back policies that are geared towards women, and direct those resources to help children in poverty w/ education

His parents contacted the applicable boards, but all they received was a boilerplate response that "all children are cared for equally" and whatnot. But it's your second paragraph that really makes me wonder. If we're to slowly roll back girl-centric policies, who is to make that decision? What type of group would have enough power to do so? And why would those savings be better spent on children in poverty instead of confused boys (who are ostensibly the reason why we would be rolling back girl-centric education)?

brainiac-dumdum: Well, I was basing my posts to Mr. Kierkegaard from an American perspective, and am not qualified to comment on the state of affairs in Europe.

I'm an American who likes pretending he's a trollic philosopher from the early 19th century.

Mega-Fauna: And in today's society women,

no, that was the Feminists of society about 50-30 years ago. Feminism is changing dramatically. The era of Steinem and Dworkin are almost over.

Produce nothing,

earn nothing.

All the engineers in here are aware that liberal arts, by virtue of their low cost of capital and easily replaceable teachers, as well as high demand, actually fund the engineering and science departments at most major universities, right?

What, did you think John Galt was contributing to your departments?

I mean, god knows we need engineers. But the big money comes from lawyers and financiers, not builders.

paket: brainiac-dumdum: So why didn't your post contain one sentence that resembled "Yes, boys require the same sorts of advocacy that girls possess?"

because I don't think they do. They need advocacy, but not the same advocacy females do.

I'm pretty sure that's sexist.

different ≠ sexism

I wholeheartedly agree boys need advocacy, but their needs are different therefore the approach to met those need must be different.

Right_Drumstick_Wacko: Apparently it is a new stage of snarkiness and general disagreeableness. I am sure you will make enormous strides for your cause.

That time is over, and the basic strides have been made. We are now in a state of upkeep and fine-tuning.

brainiac-dumdum: I wholeheartedly agree boys need advocacy, but their needs are different therefore the approach to met those need must be different.

I'm down as long as I don't get stuck with a "separate but equal" water fountain.

also, how do some of my posts get accidentally bolded? in other threads, this has happened too.

The_Gallant_Gallstone: halfof33: Starbucks sells bowls of dicks now? Well hell, you'd know better than me. Remember, sweetie, I like my evening coffee pretty weak, not unlike a women studies major's post graduation employment prospects.

Dunno... when chicks get mad at each other, they tend to call each other sweetie... but sometimes old, creepy dudes do that too... this could be an awesome catfight (or not)

I don't match wits with unarmed people...

Smelma_Kayak: I don't match wits with unarmed people...

Wits, schmits... I'm talking no holds barred girl-on-girl physical combat.

Kierkegaard's Pseudonym: If we're to slowly roll back girl-centric policies, who is to make that decision?

There wouldn't be more than a single person calling that shot. I think that as women progress in society, those programs will fizzle our and a new focus will be needed.

And why would those savings be better spent on children in poverty instead of confused boys (who are ostensibly the reason why we would be rolling back girl-centric education)?

Education can be a ticket out of poverty.

No, boys are not the reason to roll back those programs, the advances of women in society would be the reason.

Again, I thought you were American most of the thread, so I really cannot comment on European society.

Kierkegaard's Pseudonym: brainiac-dumdum: Well, I was basing my posts to Mr. Kierkegaard from an American perspective, and am not qualified to comment on the state of affairs in Europe.

I'm an American who likes pretending he's a trollic philosopher from the early 19th century.

damn you, now I have to change the note saying "European" on you posts

konigsforst: also, how do some of my posts get accidentally bolded? in other threads, this has happened too.

The mods have recognized you as an exceptionally good poster. Quite an honor.

konigsforst: not all that relevant, but i was born in '74 and many of my female teachers were overtly sexist. quite a few would disregard their subject and go off on tangents about men/sexism. even as a child, i'd stick up for the males. none of the other boys would speak up in class/support me, but they would thank me after class.

bullschnit

also, stop bolding your posts, if you have anything of merit to say, people will read it

brainiac-dumdum: Ficoce: brainiac-dumdum: halfof33: Hey, good for you! A one semester contract teacher lecturing us.

how many women's studies classes have you taken?

That's a sexist response right there. Women are much more sexist than men, they just don't realize it.

Just for you:

actually, no. Men are impacted by sexism.

Men are impacted in custody battles because for so long women were stereotypically considered a more natural parent, and men were supposed to bring home the bacon, but not fry it up in a pan.

Men get far harsher punishments for crimes than women.

Men are not allowed to show emotion, and must always be strong and stoic.

There have been movements to not allow children flying alone not to sit next to a man out of fear he may harm the child.

All of these, and more, are the result of sexism against women w/ serious blow back for men.

rigid gender roles hurt men and women.

I'm sorry, my experience proves you wrong. In large groups of women, the stoic, confident ones become leaders of the group. I'm not talking feminist with the the almost masculine attitude and hairy pits, but the woman who comes across strong, wearing dolce and gabbana. Your stereotypical woman can only win, acting weak and emotional, in a predominately masculine environment. Other women eat weak women for breakfast.

I can look at every one of your examples being either a result of female sexism or female manipulation. Of course, it took a man to let it happen, we suck as victims.

The_Gallant_Gallstone: brainiac-dumdum: I wholeheartedly agree boys need advocacy, but their needs are different therefore the approach to met those need must be different.

I'm down as long as I don't get stuck with a "separate but equal" water fountain.

nope

On that note though, what do you think of single-sex classrooms?

The_Gallant_Gallstone: Smelma_Kayak: I don't match wits with unarmed people...

Wits, schmits... I'm talking no holds barred girl-on-girl physical combat.

Maybe after all the sugar from the Halloween candy has kicked in, but I'd prefer to wrassle brainiac instead. Only in a totally egalitarian and harm-free way and not for your phallocentric pleasure, mister ;-)

/quick, where's my Chia-pit hair?

Here it is, Saturday night.. Halloween, the partiest night of the year. And we're here arguing about women's studies.

/kill me. Kill me now

Ficoce: I'm sorry, my experience proves you wrong. In large groups of women, the stoic, confident ones become leaders of the group. I'm not talking feminist with the the almost masculine attitude and hairy pits, but the woman who comes across strong, wearing dolce and gabbana. Your stereotypical woman can only win, acting weak and emotional, in a predominately masculine environment. Other women eat weak women for breakfast.

I can look at every one of your examples being either a result of female sexism or female manipulation. Of course, it took a man to let it happen, we suck as victims.

you know nothing of Feminism.

It's hilarious to hear you cry 'I'm a victim' while accusing women of crying 'I'm a victim'. Consistent thinking isn't your forte huh

konigsforst: also, how do some of my posts get accidentally bolded? in other threads, this has happened too.

That's weird, I thought it was on purpose.