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2009-10-31 07:07:35 PM  

pestluvr: I'm just waiting for one parent to give me hell because an errant Reese's Peanut Butter Cup got into their VERY DEATHLY ALLERGIC child's bag.


"Well crap, I didn't know! Jeez. What, think I can read minds? Okay, what do I got instead...I got Snickers... Pay Day... Twix... Mr. Goodbar... uhhh... well I guess you're just shiat outta luck huh?
 
2009-10-31 07:08:38 PM  
My buddy(~22) is dressing up as the Gay Joker this year. He's not ToTing, but he is showing up at our other friends house who is a HUGE Joker fan.

/*lisp* want to hear some jokes?
//get your fine ass over here, mr. bats

Doesn't translate to internet very well, but damn if this isn't gonna be funny
 
2009-10-31 07:08:38 PM  
The local christ center around here is having a big bonfire and have all kinds up stuff up, only problem is there are maybe 8 people there and it's all adults. I honked as I whizzed by on the way to the whiskey store.

/doubt any kids come by, I'm half a mile off the road with no neighbors.
 
2009-10-31 07:08:50 PM  
back with the 3 yo twins.. they wanted to stop after 9 houses, and who was i to argue? rain was sucking too.

last house we went to, dude had butterscotch shnopps shots for moms and dads... coincidently, i now have new favorite neighbors.

happy halloween, farkers!
 
2009-10-31 07:09:25 PM  

humandrive: MissFeasance: I live in the 'burbs near two elementary schools. And I have a big bowl of candy ready and jack o'lanterns on the porch. I better get some damned Trick or Treaters, or there will be a lot of Twix bars in my future.

I'm suffering through the same problem right now. I haven't seen any come by. There are Styrofoam gravestones out front and spider lights stringed up.

COME GET SOME CANDY CHILDREN.


I'm at a friends' house (I think this means I'm mature and/or old, since I'm not partying), and we've already gone through half the candy and are kinda worried. Rationing a bit now, maybe throwing in some quarters. Been quiet for the past fifteen though.

When I grew up, we lived on the end of a dead end court. Hardly any kids EVER came all the way down... but if they were, they were handsomely rewarded (whole mini bags full of candy and chips, neighbors gave out full sized bars).

And yet my mom never gave it all out, so I had basically an extra half bag every time I came home (score).

/happy halloween, folks.
 
2009-10-31 07:09:51 PM  

Ishidan: pestluvr: I'm just waiting for one parent to give me hell because an errant Reese's Peanut Butter Cup got into their VERY DEATHLY ALLERGIC child's bag.

"Well crap, I didn't know! Jeez. What, think I can read minds? Okay, what do I got instead...I got Snickers... Pay Day... Twix... Mr. Goodbar... uhhh... well I guess you're just shiat outta luck huh?


I got Milk Duds... so yeah, that kid is shiat out of luck.
 
2009-10-31 07:13:42 PM  
We have had more than normal this year.
 
2009-10-31 07:13:48 PM  
We got nothing.

I wish I had a pic, though. We came home from one of the malls (Ross Park) and passed some sort of revival church.

Their sign read: SATAN MUST BE LOOSED.

God damn, I wish I had a pic.

(McKnight Road, down past a motel and an adult vid mart)
 
2009-10-31 07:14:22 PM  
I have no problem with teenagers trick-or-treating, heck I'd even be happy with adults doing it - as long as they dress up.
 
2009-10-31 07:14:39 PM  

pestluvr: I'm just waiting for one parent to give me hell because an errant Reese's Peanut Butter Cup got into their VERY DEATHLY ALLERGIC child's bag.


I used to have a neighbor like that- "How can you give out something with peanuts? Don't you know my Patty is allergic?" I told her I gave out Snickers and Reeses because I didn't like them myself. There is always some nutjob parent- at least for the past 50 years or so
 
2009-10-31 07:14:44 PM  

Bakudai: Wife brought home reinforcements.
Now we play the waiting game.


OK, so I finally got some kids and they've got full size candy bars in all of their baskets. I didn't see one low-budget item. I feel like a chump with my mini Milky Ways. I knew I wasn't cut out for these upper-middle class digs.
 
2009-10-31 07:14:45 PM  

Pocket Ninja: I remember those Halloween nights as a child. That was how I first learned about taxes.


Beautiful story. Reminds me of my grandfather.
 
2009-10-31 07:15:12 PM  

KhamanV:
Their sign read: SATAN MUST BE LOOSED.


Then give the Dark Prince some laxatives.
 
2009-10-31 07:15:44 PM  
I hate people who live in fear. You should hear some of the shiat my wife and I put up with for letting our 11 year be an 11 year. I'm talking BB guns, pocket knifes, going outside alone, etc.


\STOP THE PUSSIFICATION!
 
2009-10-31 07:16:30 PM  

Rapmaster2000: heck: Normal traffic here as well; already had 20 or 30 kids stop by in costume. Only dad who came all the way up was the one with his 2 year old in a wagon (way young, could barely make it up the steps, but its his first kid and her first time, so totally understandable)

One neighbor did say she doesn't get hit much, but then she lives at the end of a cul-de-sac.

Around 8, when its over, all of us are headed to a neighbors for a costume party. Kids downstairs, 'rents upstairs drinking beer and going through the candy for contraband to confiscate.

We told the oldest this was probably her last time. She's over 5 foot and headed to 6th grade. We may relent if she takes her brother around.

Seems about right. My last year was 5th grade. I wore a white cardboard box with "72" on the front. That was the Super Bowl year.


My last year was last year, since I was doing get out the vote election work and they didn't give us Halloween off (are you effing kidding me...)

It was actually okay, though. I went as Jackie O since I had a vintage 60s dress, pearls, and sunglasses (only the gay couple got it), ran through as much as I could on my knock list from 4-6 (confused the hell out of a lot of folks), and then just leisurely walked around talking to people giving out candy outside when there were lulls in groups of kids.

Tried to refuse, and still came back with a good amount of candy in my shoulder bag. Not a bad night.

Before that, 5th grade, probably.
 
2009-10-31 07:17:46 PM  
I remember the glory days. My brother, sister, and I would march around the neighbourhood without parental supervision, as did every other kid. When we got home my brother, who is seven years older and sneakier, and I would go up to our room and go through the candy to find any that might be poisened. He was the guinea pig, as he would repeatedly say "I think that one might be bad, let me try it first."

But now the real magic happens on Nov 1 when all the goes on sale.
 
2009-10-31 07:17:48 PM  

Notabunny: Toward the end of the evening, the grownups go out with shot glasses and knock on doors. It's a fine neighborhood tradition.


This is a an awesome idea.
 
2009-10-31 07:17:51 PM  

museisluse: pestluvr: I'm just waiting for one parent to give me hell because an errant Reese's Peanut Butter Cup got into their VERY DEATHLY ALLERGIC child's bag.

I used to have a neighbor like that- "How can you give out something with peanuts? Don't you know my Patty is allergic?" I told her I gave out Snickers and Reeses because I didn't like them myself. There is always some nutjob parent- at least for the past 50 years or so


Oh, that's why there was a surplus of peanut M&Ms and Snickers at the store today, eh?
 
2009-10-31 07:18:02 PM  
"TRICK OR TREAT! SMELL MY FEET! GIVE ME SOMETHING GOOD TO EAT!"

"Sure, kid. Here're yer Brussels sprouts."

Damnfool "traditions".
 
2009-10-31 07:19:50 PM  
www.friedmylittlebrain.com


Crunk or treat !!
 
2009-10-31 07:19:51 PM  
This is my girlfriend's first year in this god-forsaken upstate New York "city" we live in. She came home with 6 bags of candy this morning. In the four years I've been here, I've seen nary a trick or treater, so I tried to warn her that there wouldn't be that many takers Top it off with rain this year, and I've got several thousand calories of high-fructose corn syrup based products to dispose of.

We've given out exactly six pieces of candy. As of 7:20.
 
2009-10-31 07:20:35 PM  
Good article - I love Lenore Skenazy's site, Free Range Parenting; lots of excellent stuff there. I was a little taken aback by the "That's Texas for you" comment, though. The guy gave his own seven and five year old kids (plus the neighbour kids as well!) Pixy Stix with cyanide, the boy died horribly and it was all for the sake of something like a 10K insurance payout. If anyone deserves the needle, that guy did.
 
2009-10-31 07:20:38 PM  
I've had like ten kids come by so far. And here I was afraid I wouldn't have enough candy.
 
2009-10-31 07:20:45 PM  

Magorn: FunkOut: Everyone who's showed up at my house tonight are teenagers. Bah.

don't be grudge them. The late 90's early 00's sucked as far as Halloween went. It almost died out as a holiday under the weight of irrational fears and religious fundamentalism. So those folks got gypped in their prime trick or treating years. Now that its undergoing a revival I've got no problem iwth older kids having a little fun too...


Where were you living? Good grief, ratchet down the drama
 
2009-10-31 07:20:46 PM  

Nakito: Hmmm. The term "helicopter parents" refers to the wealthy and domineering parents of spineless young adults (such as college students and first-time job seekers) whose still need coddling them from afar. The metaphor is based on the concept that such parents are willing to fly to the aid of such adult children, dropping out of the sky to yell at the college professor who gave the kid a C or the boss who didn't promote the kid. The metaphor has no meaning except in the context of grown-up children who no longer live at home but still lack independence. How the hell did the term get corrupted so quickly?


You were mostly right.
Except you underestimate the "domineering" aspect. It's not that the kids NEED the coddling, it's that they get it whether they want it or not.
There's no waving off a helicopter parent.
This has two effects.
1. The kid gets embarrassed by parents swooping in, until he just GIVES UP. Like the kids in this scenario. Do you think the kids are saying "Mommy mommy I'm scared hold my hand all the way up the stairs!" Or do you think the kids are thinking "Mom, please, I GOT THIS." but mom is saying "No no, I'm coming up with you, I'm not letting you out of my sight for a moment."
The only option is to tell your own parents to shut the fark up. Are you bastard enough to tell your own parents, "shut the fark up and go the fark away!"
2. The kid still doesn't see any improvement, as he still failed the class/didn't get promoted/whatever, except now the person who had the authority to do that also has in mind "Warn everybody I know, this kid has asshole parents that will make your life hell."
Then there's the shiats like you. "Oh, your parents hover around you, you must be completely spineless."
 
2009-10-31 07:21:17 PM  
Here`s a thought, lets expand the "DEATH PENALTY" to include the lesser crimes such as Child abduction, child molestation, rape of any kind, and child porn. Were all fearful for our kids, lets do something to get rid of the problem. These people can`t be rehabilitated!
 
2009-10-31 07:21:32 PM  

RoxtarRyan: I've already had 4 kids at my house, and it is only 5:40pm. Not even dark out, for farks sake. Since when did kids stop trick or treating after dark?


I just had a pack show up but they were around 4-5 yrs old so I can see why they're out early. Pushing DST back past Halloween has really cut into the T&T after dark time(6:20 here and still light out).
 
2009-10-31 07:21:39 PM  

Green Lantern Honnu: Wrong_Intentions: I wonder if the people who get all bent out of shape here are the vanguards against the "War on Christmas?"

The War on Christmas is a delusion. People are actually trying and succeeding to control how we celebrate Halloween.


The war on Christmas is long over. The holiday has been replaced by cheap crappy movies and a ceremonial Best Buy gift-card exchange.
 
2009-10-31 07:23:39 PM  

CaesarSneezy: Canceling Halloween? How does a town enforce such a decree?

That's what freedom in America means- doing what clueless, senile, old people tell you to, then if you play your cards right maybe one day you can tell other people what to do.


dvdmedia.ign.com

This guy agrees.

/no dancing!
 
2009-10-31 07:24:09 PM  
Getting a fairly decent turnout, but the rain has started so I don't know how long it will last.

Did have a slew of real little ones who weren't quite sure what was going on, but were having a good time. As one was walking off, I heard her Mom say, "I think it's finally occurred to her that she's getting candy everywhere she goes!"

I think someone on the street is having a party and doing group trick or treating with their kids, or we've had a bunch of folks with little kids move into the neighborhood this year.

/still going to have a ton of leftover candy
 
2009-10-31 07:24:32 PM  
Not a single kid in the past half-hour, and I still have 3 big bags of candy. If my husband were here, he'd make me shut off the porch light and declare we should cut our losses while claiming two bags for himself.
 
2009-10-31 07:24:54 PM  
When a murderer was arrested two doors down from my house a few months back, the obvious thing to do was decorate my house like a murder scene, with caution tape on the front railings and bloody body parts everywhere.

I have a great time at halloween. Anyone who doesn't like it can just take a walk.
 
2009-10-31 07:24:59 PM  

heck: Normal traffic here as well; already had 20 or 30 kids stop by in costume. Only dad who came all the way up was the one with his 2 year old in a wagon (way young, could barely make it up the steps, but its his first kid and her first time, so totally understandable)

One neighbor did say she doesn't get hit much, but then she lives at the end of a cul-de-sac.

Around 8, when its over, all of us are headed to a neighbors for a costume party. Kids downstairs, 'rents upstairs drinking beer and going through the candy for contraband to confiscate.

We told the oldest this was probably her last time. She's over 5 foot and headed to 6th grade. We may relent if she takes her brother around.


I went until I was fifteen or sixteen, but mostly just to take my dog around and visit friends. My parents didn't seem to mind because they always got most of my candy anyway.

Hell, if I still had her, I'd probably still use her as an excuse to go out. That dog loved going up to strangers' houses so much.
 
2009-10-31 07:25:42 PM  
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2009-10-31 07:25:49 PM  
I have 1 simple rule for halloween

you've GOT TO dress up and be under 12....

Nothing pisses me more than older teens wearing normal clothes ringing your doorbell expecting some sweet loot!!!

/off my lawn
 
2009-10-31 07:26:24 PM  
6lbs 12oz of assorted candy stand at the ready (2oz more than my son weighed at birth and representing 3 months 10 days of average American candy consumption, FYI). I expect the first of 100+ visitors in about 90 minutes, despite the HUGE Halloween carnival that's going on four blocks away. Halloween in the Burbs 2009 is about to commence!
 
2009-10-31 07:27:43 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: I have 1 simple rule for halloween

you've GOT TO dress up and be under 12....

Nothing pisses me more than older teens wearing normal clothes ringing your doorbell expecting some sweet loot!!!

/off my lawn


Give them fiber one bars.
 
2009-10-31 07:28:52 PM  
It's raining. A LOT.

DAMN!
 
2009-10-31 07:31:10 PM  

Annoyance: /off my lawn

Give them fiber one bars.


DON'T POOP ON MY LAWN!!!
 
2009-10-31 07:32:31 PM  

chrisco123: 20 kids so far. Every one had a parent right next to them. Can't they just wait at the end of the driveway like they used to...I want to scare the little farkers and with the parents right there, it's not as effective.


And that was the best part, wasn't it. For all parties involved.
The kid is forced to make the final approach unescorted, knowing that the deal is to get candy at the end but chances are good that there'll be a side order of pants-shiatting terror.
Maybe nine houses out of ten, you just get the candy.
Then there's the tenth one.
Pants-shiatting terror (even though deep down you know it's just Mr. Jones in a mask and some rubber spiders on cotton cobwebs, but damn it's a good mask!), run back to Mommy, mommy and the candygiver both get a good laugh at your expense.

Now...ugh...
 
2009-10-31 07:34:06 PM  

srb715: RminusQ

what the fark is "trunk-or-treat"?

It's where a large group of parents decorate the trunks of their cars and park in a big parking lot. Kids then go around and collect candy from the trunks of cars. Local churches do this, but I could see soccer moms doing it too.


You've got to be kidding me.
 
2009-10-31 07:34:13 PM  

Ishidan: Then there's the tenth one.


I am that 10th house.
 
2009-10-31 07:34:59 PM  
Well, I just had my first T-or-Ter who looked, how should I put this nicely, rather jailbaity. ~13yo and I'm pretty sure that Princess costume was intended as lingerie.
 
2009-10-31 07:35:10 PM  
True story:
Was reading the father poisoning son with pixie stick portion of the article aloud to my daughter.
When I got to the part where the father was executed for the crime she said, without missing a beat, "Texas, right?".
I just nodded..
 
2009-10-31 07:35:58 PM  

Notabunny: Alwaysus: In the 8 years we haved lived in this home, we have never had 1 trick-or-treater.

My neighbors have a pool going on the head count. It's Saturday and the weather is perfect, so my guess is 400.

Toward the end of the evening, the grownups go out with shot glasses and knock on doors. It's a fine neighborhood tradition.


I want to live in your neighbourhood.

I'm in the sticks, but now my home is visible from the road. No sidewalks, so people (when I was a kid anyway) drove from house to house, up the driveway and the kids would dart out the car, up the walkway to doors themselves. It was a special occasion if you got to go to a neighbourhood or trailer park that was all kinds of houses bunched together. We used to hit up people we knew first, then go to one or two neighbourhoods. Nowadays, I guess people just do not bother with the sticks. =(

Oh well, I had fun decorating what little I got to this year, and I'll have an even better plan for next year.
 
2009-10-31 07:36:03 PM  
(has a wee bit of candy for the bratlets)

(listening to one trick or treater outside at 4:30 PM local,
and listening to this is makin' kitty MAD)

Four frakkin' thirty, the sun is out and there is gonna
be a beautiful moon tonight and WTF you doing out
at four frakkin thirty!??
 
2009-10-31 07:36:08 PM  

RoxtarRyan: I've already had 4 kids at my house, and it is only 5:40pm. Not even dark out, for farks sake. Since when did kids stop trick or treating after dark?


Because when trick-or-treating was from 5 to 7 STANDARD time, it was nearly dark when it started. Then a bunch of idiots and congresscritters (but I repeat myself) modified Daylight Saving Time to end the first Sunday of November, thus including Halloween.
 
2009-10-31 07:38:38 PM  
Good showing so far for me, but for some reason no kids showed up til until dark. Usually the littlest ones come in first.

Things that made me sad tonight:

- kids without customes, not even saying trick or treat or thank you
- couple of houses on my street decorated their houses but are NOT giving out candy
- kids who are panting after climbing the four steps to my front porch
- the 12-ish year-old trick or treating all by herself
- a 10-year-old or so, going from house to house, talking on his blackberry. He was costumed and did say the polite things, but he was also completely ignoring his buddy. Cute.

Things that made me happy:

- lots of really nice costumes
- toddlers with warm costumes on - lots of cows and bunnies, and even a squirrel
- couple of teenagers going with a little one and not taking any candies for themselves

I love Halloween!
 
2009-10-31 07:39:11 PM  
I just got three boys dressed up as '30s gangsters, and the oldest commented that this was the first tootsie roll he got all night. seeing as how I have about 300 of the things, I gave him a giant handful.

sometimes it pays to appreciate the simple stuff kid.
 
2009-10-31 07:39:26 PM  
Did anyone else ever get pennies from trick or treating? I seemed to get about 10 of them every year. Always from old people as well...
 
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