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Deadhouseplants

2009-10-30 10:58:33 PM

Um, Subby, seems to me that the Mexican government is welcoming American immigrants, without so much as a hassle for their troubles. Maybe because the Mexican government and people know deep down, that they need Americans to do certain jobs. You know, like run the fast food restaurants, own the landscaping companies, and operate the office buildings that need to be cleaned.

\Good for the Mexican government on taking the high road. Still doesn't excuse the fact that being here without documentation is still a crime.

cksewell

2009-10-30 11:39:53 PM

Deadhouseplants: Um, Subby, seems to me that the Mexican government is welcoming American immigrants, without so much as a hassle for their troubles. Maybe because the Mexican government and people know deep down, that they need Americans to do certain jobs. You know, like run the fast food restaurants, own the landscaping companies, and operate the office buildings that need to be cleaned.

\Good for the Mexican government on taking the high road. Still doesn't excuse the fact that being here without documentation is still a crime.you have American dollars...bienvenidos!

me texan

2009-10-30 11:47:30 PM

I lived in Mexico for a year and part of it was illegal (accidentally - I trusted a Mexican citizen to get me into the country legally and he assumed the process that worked for him also worked for me). However, the government helped me work the issue out with little fuss since I could prove my entry date and point (still had the car receipt we received at the border crossing).

Living in Mexico was nice and the government was easy to work with.. but I think we're comparing apples to oranges. The Mexicans with money don't want to move to the US and the US citizens that can afford to live a good life in Mexico want to move there. Its a simple economics problem.

Who would you want to invite to your tupperware party.. someone who has money or someone who doesnt?

Tr0mBoNe

2009-10-31 12:12:26 AM

All these old white people are taking the jobs of the hard working Mexicans. Tomaron nuestros trabajos!

Tenebreux

2009-10-31 12:21:17 AM

Stupid hamburger eating fatasses! Send them back!

gave up

2009-10-31 12:21:47 AM

Fine, all you illegals who are comparatively rich step up for your amnesty.....

veale728

2009-10-31 12:26:22 AM

Mexico doesn't care about American immigrants. They only care about the Guatemalan and Costa Rican immigrants, who are immediately deported.

stiletto_the_wise

2009-10-31 12:28:19 AM

Illegal immigration can't be stopped. When you allow free flow of capital but not free flow of labor, this is what happens. You're pissing in the wind if you think the law will stop it. Better to welcome them into the legal economy and enjoy the tax revenue.

torquestripe

2009-10-31 12:28:26 AM

So how do you give amnesty to those who are in the country legally?

Saiga410

2009-10-31 12:32:54 AM

When they interview some central americans that are in Mexico illegally that report being treated just like the people who have legally immigrated, I will believe that mexico has a more kinder immigration policy. Until then I will remain a little skeptical.

MentalMoment

2009-10-31 12:35:52 AM

Given how they've treated illegals from south, like from Guatemala... any other support for this claim of "Mexico 'opens it arms' to immigrants" claim.

On Halloween

DFWPhotoGuy

2009-10-31 12:42:02 AM

We wear masks because we are here....ILLEGALLY!

doglover

2009-10-31 12:43:36 AM

As a legal immigrant, I say illegal immigration law should work like this:

First offense: illegal immigrants get a special RDIF chip in the back of the neck before being sent home.

Second offense: they are enslaved. They legally become animals and the property of the government for three years.

Third offense or violent criminal acts: American Gladiators 2: Foreigners With Swords.

BMulligan

2009-10-31 12:47:51 AM

Deadhouseplants: Still doesn't excuse the fact that being here without documentation is still a crime.

Generally not. In most cases, it is a purely civil matter handled by administrative adjudication.

stiletto_the_wise: Illegal immigration can't be stopped. When you allow free flow of capital but not free flow of labor, this is what happens. You're pissing in the wind if you think the law will stop it. Better to welcome them into the legal economy and enjoy the tax revenue.

Exactly.

jjorsett

2009-10-31 12:49:31 AM

Not one American shown in the (Al Jazeera!) story , by the way) is illegal. It says it's hard to know how many illegal Americans there are. I'm going to go out on a limb and say, virtually none. Why should there be, when Mexico is delighted to have them as tourists and residents who spend lots of money? The vast bulk of the illegals in Mexico are natives of other Central- and South-American countries. Up until relatively recently, the Mexican Army was shooting them attempting to cross at Mexico's Southern border.

Jamrock

2009-10-31 12:54:52 AM

jjorsett: (Al Jazeera!)

I know you might not think much of Al Jazeera.

But do you hear that? That is the sound of Al Jazeera pissing away some hard-earned credibility (with some people) with a fairly bullshiat story

Spontaneous Defenstration

2009-10-31 12:56:11 AM

This Onion piece seems relevant.

Dr.Zom

2009-10-31 01:11:22 AM

One million Americans live in Mexico? Damn.

AR55

2009-10-31 01:16:12 AM

Dr.Zom: One million Americans live in Mexico? Damn.

Less than one percent of the US population. That isn't too bad.

Does seem odd that the Mexican government is a lot friendlier to the gringos up North than their Southern neighbors.

TedDalton

2009-10-31 01:18:07 AM

Americans living in mexico have significantly higher incomes than the locals. as simple as that.

no citation needed

inglixthemad

2009-10-31 01:22:03 AM

moothemagiccow

2009-10-31 01:43:40 AM

In Mexico:

Mexicans have priority over foreigners under equality of circumstances for all classes of concessions and for all employment, positions, or commissions of the Government in which the status of citizenship is not indispensable. Foreigners can serve in the military only during wartime.[3]

Only Mexicans by birth or naturalization and Mexican companies have the right to acquire ownership of lands, waters, and their appurtenances, or to obtain concessions for the exploitation of mines or of waters.[4]The Mexican government may grant this right to foreigners if they agree before the Ministry of Foreign Affairs not to invoke the protection of their own governments in any matters relating to the property they wish to buy.

MentalMoment

2009-10-31 01:46:02 AM

Oh, like you haven't been in worse places.

gtomako

2009-10-31 01:51:02 AM

This video is total bs. Go ask all those illegals crossing the Mexican border from Guatemala how well they're treated. They're abused by the gangs, the police, and the federales. The only people that help the illegals are the locals who feed, house and provide them medical care.

The majority of the Americans who are in San Miguel de Allende are retirees with good incomes, not dirt poor, illiterates who are going to be feeding off Mexico's free social programs (not that there are any).

mud_shark

2009-10-31 01:53:35 AM

AR55: Does seem odd that the Mexican government is a lot friendlier to the gringos up North than their Southern neighbors.

Yeah, and it's odd that I prefer a choice ribeye as opposed to a tofu-burger.

Write it off to personal taste I guess.

sillysillysilly

2009-10-31 01:56:48 AM

What a load of irresponsible crap.

1. the "illegal aliens" are all wealthy people bringing money INTO mexico. How would they feel about illegals comming in and TAKING JOBS and SENDING MONEY out of the country....
http://www.cis.org/articles/2002/back702.html

2. How about land ownership. Immigrants cannot own property in mexico.
I would like to see set of "reciprocating laws" Basically if the country of nationality does not allow our citizens to own property, then neither can theirs here in the US.

3. Legal systems. How would you rate your chances for a fair trial in Mexico? Scale of 1 to 10 I would say -3

Katolu

2009-10-31 01:59:21 AM

veale728: Mexico doesn't care about American immigrants. They only care about the Guatemalan and Costa Rican immigrants, who are immediately deported.

If they aren't killed out-right, the lucky ones get deported.

GoteamVenture

2009-10-31 02:00:11 AM

RIDING ON TOP OF TRAINS....NOW THATS CRAZY!!!

Wackity shmackity doo

Thenixon

2009-10-31 02:05:56 AM

sillysillysilly: 3. Legal systems. How would you rate your chances for a fair trial in Mexico? Scale of 1 to 10 I would say -3

Is that scale in pesos? because 3 probably isn't enough. Even 10 seems a little cheap, but go ahead and start low. Eventually you'll reach the "fair trial" level.

/in America we have lawyers to mediate that transaction!

EngineerBob

2009-10-31 02:13:40 AM

Dern, they took yur trabaho!

Dialectic

2009-10-31 02:56:31 AM

dey took ther jorbs!

ramblinwreck

2009-10-31 03:10:42 AM

I'm about as liberal as they get, but I cannot take any story from Al Jazeera seriously.

LincolnLogolas

2009-10-31 03:45:32 AM

The Mexican government is welcoming wealthy white people into Mexico. Guatemalans, not so much. They wind up being caught by the federales, beaten to within an inch of their lives, and stripped of anything of value. If they're LUCKY they get deported back to Guatemala.

White people, or anyone with money? Bienvenidos a Mexico, Senor!

At least the US only deports illegal immigrants. Rounded up, given full meals, and a free trip back home.

Al Jazeera, living up to its deserved reputation of "Anything Anyone Does Is Better Than What America Does.. except Israel. Fark them even more."

Britney Spear's Speculum

2009-10-31 04:04:51 AM

They took our yobs!

Maybe Go America

2009-10-31 04:33:12 AM

Do you boys like Mexico?

Brubold

2009-10-31 05:06:31 AM

veale728: Mexico doesn't care about American immigrants. They only care about the Guatemalan and Costa Rican immigrants, who are immediately deported.

THIS

That clip was completely misleading. As others have noted there's no reason for Mexico to be upset with most American illegals living there as most of them are probably retirees who bring lots of American money into Mexico.

The illegals Mexico is concerned about are the ones that are more like what we typically get here. They are poor, out of work, and are going to send most of the money they earn back to their families back home.

To be fair I do feel that the quota of new citizens needs to be raised here to accommodate the amount that want to live here. I also have no problem with people that want to earn their citizenship. It's a great country, why wouldn't they?

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser

2009-10-31 05:15:04 AM

stiletto_the_wise: Illegal immigration can't be stopped. When you allow free flow of capital but not free flow of labor, this is what happens. You're pissing in the wind if you think the law will stop it. Better to welcome them into the legal economy and enjoy the tax revenue.

I do not agree.

justoneznot

2009-10-31 06:10:16 AM

HowDareYouCallMeAHoser: stiletto_the_wise: Illegal immigration can't be stopped. When you allow free flow of capital but not free flow of labor, this is what happens. You're pissing in the wind if you think the law will stop it. Better to welcome them into the legal economy and enjoy the tax revenue.

I do not agree.

Ok.

DeadZone

2009-10-31 06:53:50 AM

Al-Jazeera tv is like watching FOX through a mirror.

jso2897

2009-10-31 06:55:33 AM

PartyRob

2009-10-31 07:08:32 AM

Wow, sure is a good thing the purpose of Medicare is human health, not making a profit like a bank.

nerdoverlord

2009-10-31 07:57:17 AM

Well thank god Mexico is setting the example for us. Otherwise how would we know what to do?

ByronR

2009-10-31 08:16:43 AM

I almost feel sorry for anyone that thinks this story has a valid point. Almost. Still laughing.

Emposter

2009-10-31 08:36:25 AM

There are over 111 million Americans in Mexico. Nearly 34 million Americans in Canada. Almost 191 million in Brazil. Etc.

US citizens considering the USA "America" and themselves the only "Americans" is just one of the many reasons many people around the world dislike American tourists.

randomjsa

2009-10-31 09:04:14 AM

I think it's only fair that we enforce our southern border the same way Mexico enforces their southern border.

mdbirt

2009-10-31 09:13:29 AM

I wonder how many of the white illegal immigrants are committing violent crimes, hit-and-runs because they don't have insurance, running drugs, popping out babies by the dozen, etc.

topcon

2009-10-31 09:39:40 AM

Wow, Mexico doesn't mind people with money coming into their country and spending it - - what a surprise.

Now, let's guesstimate what would happen if thousands of poor people from Haiti suddenly flooded into those same towns.

DrewCurtisJr

2009-10-31 09:42:51 AM

stiletto_the_wise: Illegal immigration can't be stopped. When you allow free flow of capital but not free flow of labor, this is what happens.

No this is what happens when you have virtually zero internal enforcement for 25 years. All these businesses that have been getting busted with the token enforcement recently have been operating that way for 10-20 years and everyone knew it. INS and ICE never did a thing.

Bees are livestock

2009-10-31 09:43:10 AM

I lived in Mexico D.F. for 12 years. I had a mexican green card and was never checked by anyone. I cant say I miss living in that shait hole...

tenpoundsofcheese

2009-10-31 09:51:50 AM

Saiga410: When they interview some central americans that are in Mexico illegally that report being treated just like the people who have legally immigrated, I will believe that mexico has a more kinder immigration policy. Until then I will remain a little skeptical.

THIS

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