That's what SHE said!

wait.....

Why would you bob an AR-15?

/totally innocent question from someone who knows dick nothing about guns

gopher321: Why would you bob an AR-15?


'cause the M4 carbine has a 14.5 inch barrel, and for some reason the Bubba's seem to want what the military uses.

/thinks the military should have stuck with .45-70

So he bobed his penis extension...

You are doing it wrong!

Another fine example of ridiculous laws.

I can understand the reasoning behind shorter shotgun barrels, as it affects the spread. But what exactly is the harm in allowing shorter barrels on an M4?

My god.. A smaller turning radius when strafing?! Those felons!

DrRatchet: gopher321: Why would you bob an AR-15?


'cause the M4 carbine has a 14.5 inch barrel, and for some reason the Bubba's seem to want what the military uses.

/thinks the military should have stuck with .45-70

The carbine gas system is "optimized" for the 14.5" barrel length, and pinning a flash hider in place makes that length legal. A 14.5" barrel also is quicker handling and looks more proportional than a 16" barrel with a carbine length gas system.

meat0918: But isn't a longer barrel length an indicator of accuracy?

Yes and no. You'll get more range out of a longer barrel, but it really only matters out past 200-300 yards, and most folks don't have ranges to use where 400+ yard shooting is available. For many, the shorter barrel's quicker handling is worth the tradeoff.


It probably wasn't a 14.5" barrel- even without a pinned/soldered flash hider, it's only 1.5" short of the legally required 16 inches. It was likely a 11.5" barrel with a normal flash hider (instead of a rather long one that's pinned on, which is indeed useless). ARs allow for very easy swaps of the barrel and upper receiver (takes all of about 20 seconds, no tools needed), and it sounds like this idiot took a short barreled upper and put it on a non-NFA lower, which is illegal under the 1934 National Firearms Act. It's simple enough to get a SBR application approved, even though there is a tax to be paid ($200, IIRC), and a process to be followed.

And unlike TFA says, it isn't a "short barreled assault rifle." The law views it simple as a "short barreled rifle," it doesn't matter if it is an AR-15 variant or a bolt action deer rifle that's been chopped short and recrowned.

It's pretty easy to get the Form 1's into the ATF to make it legal, the hardest part of the process is the wait. I have two SRB AR-type rifles, engraved and with a copy of my stamped Form 1 in the foregrip for just such an occasion.

Next up, suppressors.

Somaticasual: Another fine example of ridiculous laws.

I can understand the reasoning behind shorter shotgun barrels, as it affects the spread. But what exactly is the harm in allowing shorter barrels on an M4?

My god.. A smaller turning radius when strafing?! Those felons!

Why I partially agree with you... This is also an example of "what a dumbass." He knew his gun wasn't legal.

And as someone who used to go monthly to Virginia gun shows to look at the toys, he should damn well know the places are TONS of law enforcement.

meat0918: But isn't a longer barrel length an indicator of accuracy?

You mean does the longer barrel make the gun more accurate? Not necessarily. The question of accuracy isn't simple, there's many factors involved. Except for lower-power cartridges, a longer barrel gives the bullet more speed, which makes it fly "flatter" with less drop due to gravity, which generally leads to better accuracy. Also, if using iron sights and not a scope, a longer barrel lets you put the front sight farther from the back sight, which can help the shooter aim quite a bit. There's a lot oc complex stuff having to do with how a barrel will vibrate as the bullet travels down it that depends on barrel length and thickness and how that relates to the weight and speed of the projectile but the general rule does hold that "longer" and "thicker" is better. Yes it is.

meat0918:

But isn't a longer barrel length an indicator of accuracy?

Not necessarily.

While there are some advantages to a longer barrel that do have an effect on practical accuracy, there is no real inherent accuracy advantage in having a longer barrel.

One practical accuracy advantage is that when using iron sights, a longer barrel generally means a longer sight radius. This doesn't apply if you are using a scope.

Another practical advantage is that longer barrels, up to a point, mean faster muzzle velocities, which means less time a bullet is exposed to the wind. That helps improve practical accuracy.

A longer barrel also helps place the balance of the gun more forward, which can contribute to increased steadiness when shooting offhand.

However, if you were to take two guns that were identical except for barrel length and place them in a vice and shoot them at a target using identical ammunition, in theory they should both have the same accuracy.

Githerax: Q: What do you call a gun owner in prison?
A: A good start.

/lolz all day long

Hey, Rosie, sorry to hear about you and Kelly.

erewhon: Wow, I sure hope my Uzi is classed as a sidearm instead of an "assault rifle", I have a long barrel but most of the time I've got the shorty on there.

Of course, if they ever notice it's got that other setting I guess it'll be a moot point.

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