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(Seattle Times)   In what would be a first for the criminal justice system, Arizona's death row could become the responsibility of a private company   (seattletimes.nwsource.com ) divider line
    More: Scary, justice system, private company, Arizona, Department of Justice, privatizations, economic environment, consulting firm, Department of Corrections  
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2009-10-25 02:43:43 AM  
nothing good can come from this.
 
2009-10-25 02:49:43 AM  

SilentStrider: nothing good can come from this.


Well, I expect there to be a very empty death row relatively shortly.
 
2009-10-25 02:50:44 AM  

SilentStrider: nothing good can come from this.


Oh, bullshiat.

If they have a PPV package we could pay off the national debt in 3 weeks.
 
2009-10-25 02:53:18 AM  

NewportBarGuy: SilentStrider: nothing good can come from this.

Oh, bullshiat.

If they have a PPV package we could pay off the national debt in 3 weeks.


*snort*
I stand corrected. :P
 
2009-10-25 02:53:58 AM  

SilentStrider: nothing good can come from this.


Wait, I was always told that the free market has to potential to solve any issue.
 
2009-10-25 03:08:54 AM  
Scary tag? Governments contract out almost everything these days. What else is new.
 
2009-10-25 03:31:03 AM  
Depending on whether you go with the book or the film, we have either eight or sixteen years to resurrect and/or clone Richard Dawson.
 
2009-10-25 04:17:55 AM  
How much worse could it be than Sheriff Joe?

/yes I know, he runs Maricopa County jail, not the prison.
//Somehow that's worse, since his victims haven't been convicted of crimes and are awaiting trial
 
2009-10-25 04:41:05 AM  

Gig103: How much worse could it be than Sheriff Joe?


www.badmovies.org

Feels your pain
 
2009-10-25 04:51:13 AM  

ninjakirby: SilentStrider: nothing good can come from this.

Well, I expect there to be a very empty death row relatively shortly.


Not neccessarily. Empty prisons don't make any money, and they're being paid to guard prisoners.
 
2009-10-25 04:58:20 AM  
OMG Palin was right, death panels are real!
 
2009-10-25 06:27:23 AM  
McExecuted!
 
2009-10-25 06:39:19 AM  

SilentStrider: NewportBarGuy: SilentStrider: nothing good can come from this.

Oh, bullshiat.

If they have a PPV package we could pay off the national debt in 3 weeks.

*snort*
I stand corrected. :P


www.smokingtree.net
 
2009-10-25 06:41:22 AM  
Oh god.

There is one group I trust less than the government to run our lives. And that's corporations.

This will end badly.
 
2009-10-25 06:42:35 AM  
Anyone remember RoboCop? Yeah, not even Detroit was pleased.
 
2009-10-25 06:45:32 AM  
screenrant.com
 
2009-10-25 06:48:46 AM  
www.iwatchstuff.com
 
2009-10-25 06:51:59 AM  
Where is the world getting to, privatizing killing. How much does it cost to kill a person?
 
2009-10-25 06:54:15 AM  

Archie Goodwin: Gig103: How much worse could it be than Sheriff Joe?

Feels your pain


Oh wow. I haven't seen Fortress in AGES.

/intestinators FTW
 
2009-10-25 06:56:01 AM  

x10nd: Where is the world getting to, privatizing killing. How much does it cost to kill a person?


Is FARK the right place to ask that kind of question? Maybe it's better suited to craigslist.
 
2009-10-25 06:58:41 AM  

moof: x10nd: Where is the world getting to, privatizing killing. How much does it cost to kill a person?

Is FARK the right place to ask that kind of question? Maybe it's better suited to craigslist.


Do they accept roses in payment too?
 
2009-10-25 06:59:41 AM  
Huh. I really thought the government would have gone to Apple on this one. They already have "iLife;" now they can have iDeath too!

Gig103: How much worse could it be than Sheriff Joe?


Sheriff Joe Don Baker.

That is all.
 
2009-10-25 07:01:24 AM  
Sounds like they're guarding them, not executing them. Did anyone read the article, or did you all stop at "death row" and "private company"?
 
2009-10-25 07:17:41 AM  
The correct solution is to see why there's such a high prison population in the first place and see if we can make society a better place. But of course, that requires thinking farther than a few months in advance.

/go 'way, 'baitin.
 
2009-10-25 07:18:26 AM  
I would politely ask that Joe Arpaio and Andrew Thomas conveniently locate a fire in which they could investigate, yet one in which they would likely incur substantial injuries up to, and including, death.
 
2009-10-25 07:19:34 AM  
Well, it's been fun folks; the renaissance, reformation, enlightenment, romanticism, 20th century, and now a big leap back into the dark ages.

Social img1.fark.net
 
2009-10-25 07:20:10 AM  

Barakku: Sounds like they're guarding them, not executing them. Did anyone read the article, or did you all stop at "death row" and "private company"?


Indeed, the companies would not be executing the prisoners, only storing them until the appointed time.

Nevertheless, it seems rather inappropriate that a private corporation should be entrusted with the highest authority in the land short of actual execution-- the authority to deprive a person of his liberty. That power, if nothing else, should remain the realm of the government and thus the people alone. Under no circumstances should a private company wield that kind of power.
 
2009-10-25 07:22:35 AM  

ninjakirby: SilentStrider: nothing good can come from this.

Well, I expect there to be a very empty death row relatively shortly.


Empty? They won't get paid for empty cells.

Expect a lot of new prisoners, fed the cheapest amount to keep them alive, but with encouragement to appeal their sentences to keep them there as long as possible.

The guards will probably be of mall cop quality, though.
 
2009-10-25 07:25:17 AM  
(reads the article) Doubled the number of prisoners this decade? Sheesh.
 
2009-10-25 07:40:26 AM  
I hear we can get the Chinese to do it for 1/5 the cost. Let's start shipping them overseas.
 
2009-10-25 07:49:26 AM  

Alphax: The guards will probably be of mall cop quality, though.


Still better than Joe Arpaio.
 
2009-10-25 08:00:50 AM  
Please don't be McDonalds...Please don't be McDonalds...Please don't be McDonalds....
 
2009-10-25 08:04:32 AM  
Soylent Green has to start somewhere.
 
2009-10-25 08:10:18 AM  
Texas, just in case it wasn't clear, you can take Arizona along with Louisiana when secede.

It'll be a gain for both of us. You'll gain some more crazies and we'll get rid of some more crazies.
 
2009-10-25 08:11:16 AM  
Everyone knows that MAXIMIZING PROFITS is the ONLY important thing these days. Forget all that crap like humanity, justice, laws, equality, love, respect, honor - that's all just garbage next to MAXIMIZING PROFITS!!!
 
2009-10-25 08:19:44 AM  
Or they could, ya know, run things efficiently in the first place so someone doesn't have to do it for them.

As a government entity, they should be able to get cheap food and supplies, public pensions for its employees etc..there's obviously a money drain going on somewhere.
 
2009-10-25 08:27:07 AM  
oh, christ. please oh please not blackwater.


/the sentence is death! ... by snoo-snoo!
 
2009-10-25 08:31:07 AM  
It's weird how most people don't realize how many prisoners there are in the US. It's a farking enterprise.
 
2009-10-25 08:36:07 AM  

vodka: It's weird how most people don't realize how many prisoners there are in the US. It's a farking enterprise.


true. do you know how much prison psychiatrists and surgeons get paid? it's extraordinary.

/and, by the way, it's a public health care system.
 
2009-10-25 08:37:26 AM  

Archie Goodwin: Gig103: How much worse could it be than Sheriff Joe?

Feels your pain


Came for the Fortress reference, left satified
 
2009-10-25 08:37:44 AM  
so its not an execution, but a market correction?
/dnrtfa
 
2009-10-25 08:43:53 AM  

ninjakirby: SilentStrider: nothing good can come from this.

Well, I expect there to be a very empty death row relatively shortly.


I would actually assume the opposite. I bet the private company gets paid for housing the inmates from the government. It's probably in their best interests in that situation not to have anyone get executed, because once a prisoner is dead the government stops paying for his upkeep/security detail.

Alphax: Expect a lot of new prisoners, fed the cheapest amount to keep them alive, but with encouragement to appeal their sentences to keep them there as long as possible.


Exactly. I bet they provide free legal aid to every inmate :)
 
2009-10-25 08:45:42 AM  
It sounds crazy, but I think one of the reasons there are so many people in prison is that it fudges the books somewhat in terms of unemployment statistics. One of the reasons that Mao sent five million boys to their death in the Korean quagmire was because they were from an under-performing province.

Anyway, economics, or the lack of money, often motivates crime. We now have an economy in which mass(machine)-production, including food production (and Chinese production--thanks Dick) are the rule. Guest workers from Central and South America perform many of the service roles. What stable jobs there are require years and years of secondary education.

I think that our social narrative has been superseded by a newer, different reality. We need more socialism, cheaper education. And, maybe, to relax (or modify) our ethos around work.

Even agriculture is becoming the semi-automated production of industrial feedstocks. Our fruits and vegetables usually come from off-shore now.
 
2009-10-25 08:49:02 AM  

epocalypse: oh, christ. please oh please not blackwater.


Why do you hate America The Doobie Brothers?
 
2009-10-25 08:50:27 AM  

x10nd: Where is the world getting to, privatizing killing. How much does it cost to kill a person?


World? No, just the "best country in the world"*.

Bloody savages.

*Offer void where non-white, non-male, non-Christian, non-rich, or otherwise different in any way
 
2009-10-25 08:55:35 AM  
I can't find it in me to shed a tear for the poor death row inmates...
 
2009-10-25 08:56:39 AM  

cabbyman: I can't find it in me to shed a tear for the poor death row inmates...


May you be falsely convicted and murdered by the state Death Inc.
 
2009-10-25 08:59:15 AM  
If I'm falsely convicted and murdered does it really matter who does it?
 
2009-10-25 09:00:52 AM  

cabbyman: If I'm falsely convicted and murdered does it really matter who does it?


An entity simply and disinterestedly doing its job, or an entity that makes more money the more people it kills.

So, yeah.
 
2009-10-25 09:04:54 AM  
Yo Arizona, imma let you finish, but I just want to say that the town in Montana had the biggest private prison culsterfark of all time. OF ALL TIME!
 
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