HAIL ERIS.

Poooope, it's time to put on your funny hat.

wingedkat: I'm curious if they get to take their wives with them though

They already can. The difference is that before married Anglican priests would have to ask the Pope for permission. Now they can join automatically and bring their wives.

Will the ex-Anglicans have to acquire a taste for boy-diddling instead of tea and crumpets? Will there be a test?

Will they still have tea and cake?

This has all the real historical relevance in the 21st Century of some DM deciding he'll let his buddy's Level 14 Cleric change classes to a Level 10 Paladin with a +4 bonus vs. Evil and +5 vs. Undead.
/yeah, I know I'm probably making all sorts of game mistakes here, I haven't played D&D since 1985.

They see me rollin'
They prostratin'

The Holy See refers to this as the Kotter Policy -

Wherein every couple of years they 'Welcome Back' an estranged faction of the church.

douchebag bigots. that's all I have to say.

Let them go. And that goes for the people pissed over the promotion of gay bishops as well.

cynicalbastard: This has all the real historical relevance in the 21st Century of some DM deciding he'll let his buddy's Level 14 Cleric change classes to a Level 10 Paladin with a +4 bonus vs. Evil and +5 vs. Undead.
/yeah, I know I'm probably making all sorts of game mistakes here, I haven't played D&D since 1985.

Yeah, what possible affect could a reaffirmation and commitment to conservatism in the largest religious group on the planet have? I mean it's not like Catholics have any real political power anywhere.

John-Paul was a much better pope unit. This is what happened when the next pope failed to follow his lead and name himself Pope George-Ringo.

So much for 'tradition'.

Cake or death?

Could be that there could be a blockbuster trade in believers between the churches. The Catholics could get the conservative Christians and the Anglicans can get the liberals. Everybody can be happy in their silos while not having to be in communion with the splitters. They can then say to themselves "at least they are not Greek Orthodox."

those are some humbling tits

It has seemed like a set of historical accidents that the Anglican Church remains separate from Catholicism. Consider the other orthodox churches that are separate but remain in communion with Rome. The Eastern, Russian, Serbian, Syriach, Ethiopian and Coptic Orthodox churches (to name the ones I am aware of) get along with Rome just fine. They agree to be all part of the same universal Church, and agree to not discuss the bits where they differ. They don't claim each others' members are going to hell, and the others' Eucharists "count". The Anglicans are less different from Catholicism than some of these others. Even that aposolic line of succession thing is claimed to be unbroken by certain Anglicans.

Why don't the Anglicans just call themselves "English Orthodox" like all the others?

SPLITTERS!!!1!1

Suede head: Will the ex-Anglicans have to acquire a taste for boy-diddling instead of tea and crumpets? Will there be a test?

THIS

Boobsaregood -

I will concede every point I made. You win. Your logic is overflowing, ample, and hopefully legal.

attackingpencil:
Yeah, what possible affect could a reaffirmation and commitment to conservatism in the largest religious group on the planet have? I mean it's not like Catholics have any real political power anywhere.

Sure, lots of people with political power are Catholics, in the same sense that many of them are brunettes, lots of them have type O blood- they more or less "inherited" their religion along family lines. The amount of real belief they actually have? Probably not so much. Most adherants of either the Anglican/Episcopalian faith or the RC's are essentially there at Xmas, Easter, and funerals.
Or, as a writer once put it, on Sundays you see two types of people- women, and men trying to keep the peace with the former.

GEE, who should i choose- GAY PEOPLE or KIDDIE RAPISTS?

/having gay friends with whom i would trust with my kids, i must stick with that crazy ol' inclusive Anglican Church
//how DARE the catholic church pretend to be BETTER than a church that accepts EVERYONE?
///sad state of affairs, thank heaven my relationship with the infinite needs no middleman, man

I'm holding out for an indulgence.

/Original Heretic up in this Beeyotch!

Strangers always have the best candy ...

Suede head: Will the ex-Anglicans have to acquire a taste for boy-diddling instead of tea and crumpets? Will there be a test?

it's always entertaining to watch the hypocrisy of people opine about the Catholic church and keep promoting the every-priest-a-molester lie and ignore the real molestation cover-ups around the country.

But hey, keep up your Catholic trolling, keep up the mindless rants, it makes ignoring your arguments so much easier.

This ascynicalbastard: This has all the real historical relevance in the 21st Century of some DM deciding he'll let his buddy's Level 14 Cleric change classes to a Level 10 Paladin with a +4 bonus vs. Evil and +5 vs. Undead.
/yeah, I know I'm probably making all sorts of game mistakes here, I haven't played D&D since 1985.

This. The image I got reading the article was kids dressing up and playing...

keloyd: It has seemed like a set of historical accidents that the Anglican Church remains separate from Catholicism. Consider the other orthodox churches that are separate but remain in communion with Rome. The Eastern, Russian, Serbian, Syriach, Ethiopian and Coptic Orthodox churches (to name the ones I am aware of) get along with Rome just fine. They agree to be all part of the same universal Church, and agree to not discuss the bits where they differ. They don't claim each others' members are going to hell, and the others' Eucharists "count". The Anglicans are less different from Catholicism than some of these others. Even that aposolic line of succession thing is claimed to be unbroken by certain Anglicans.

Why don't the Anglicans just call themselves "English Orthodox" like all the others?

The Russian and Serbian Orthodox churches are emphatically NOT in communion with Rome. You are confusing them with Uniate, "Greek" or Byzantine churches within the RCC, which are in communion with Rome and loyal to the Pope. Such churches are relatively common in eastern Poland and parts of Ukraine and Lithuania that were once parts of Poland or the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Their priests marry and the church uses Orthodox liturgy.

This Uniate movement offers a blueprint for Rome to sop up some discontented Anglicans. In practice, these Uniate movements are not well-known outside such movements.

In a way, it's the Catholic Church getting its own back. The Episcopal Church here in the US is roughly two-thirds made of former Catholics, and no few priests have fled from Rome to Canterbury. Our Presiding Bishop was baptized a Catholic, and she has made it farther up the hierarchy as an Episcopalian than she would have as a Catholic.

Of course, the highest spot in the Roman Catholic hierarchy has been reserved for a certain Jewish carpenter, at least in theory.

Does Anne Boleyn get her head back?

Yamaneko2: The Episcopal Church here in the US is roughly two-thirds made of former Catholics....

Got any stats on that? Our church here is mostly former Methodists, former Baptists, former Lutherans, and few former Presbyterians and Unitarians thrown in just for laughs. Out of 300+ members, I think we've got about 20 people who grew up Episcopal. That includes the rector (renegade Methodist) and the curate (grew up Southern Baptist.)

/We're Anglicans, not Anglican'ts.

quiet_american: Suede head: Will the ex-Anglicans have to acquire a taste for boy-diddling instead of tea and crumpets? Will there be a test?

it's always entertaining to watch the hypocrisy of people opine about the Catholic church and keep promoting the every-priest-a-molester lie and ignore the real molestation cover-ups around the country.

But hey, keep up your Catholic trolling, keep up the mindless rants, it makes ignoring your arguments so much easier.

You sound like a priest.

Pedo bear is branching out.

If its Fark, it has to be anti-Catholic bigotry.

clusterfrak: Does Anne Boleyn get her head back?

Well, the RC church had no problem at all with Annie getting used as a sword-testing prop. In fact, her death meant that either 1. Henry could get back with his Catholic wife, Catherine of Aragon, or if she died, as looked likely given her health, then Henry was free to remarry a (preferably Catholic) princess, and then he would be accepted back into the fold with open arms.

About 600 Church of England priests are meeting later to discuss the Pope's offer for them to join their own section of the Roman Catholic Church.

Who cares?

No, don't merge with him! Look at his face: it's totally a trap. You join up and the next thing you know, he'll be cackling and yammering on about, "Now they will witness the POWAH of this FULLY AHMED and OPERATIONAL POPESTAR!"

You know it, I know it, the American people know it.

Maybe they're doing this for the wider selection of altar boys? Or maybe it's because there is safety in numbers (harder to get caught)?

keloyd: It has seemed like a set of historical accidents that the Anglican Church remains separate from Catholicism. Consider the other orthodox churches that are separate but remain in communion with Rome. The Eastern, Russian, Serbian, Syriach, Ethiopian and Coptic Orthodox churches (to name the ones I am aware of) get along with Rome just fine. They agree to be all part of the same universal Church, and agree to not discuss the bits where they differ. They don't claim each others' members are going to hell, and the others' Eucharists "count". The Anglicans are less different from Catholicism than some of these others. Even that aposolic line of succession thing is claimed to be unbroken by certain Anglicans.

Why don't the Anglicans just call themselves "English Orthodox" like all the others?

Because the head of the Anglican Church is the Queen/King. They will not accept the Pope in Rome as the head of the Church, or even as someone who has any authority whatsoever. The 19 Article is that the Church of Rome has strayed from the true path in both the manner in which they observe their faith, and in the basic articles of the faith.

The 22nd article literally calls the Roman Church 'silly' and specifically lists purgatory, idolatry of Mary, Saints, and relics, and the issuing of pardons as practices that are non-Biblical and actually against the word of God.

We're talking about the Roman Church committing multiple acts of capital-H Heresy.

Those are fairly major doctrinal differences to agree 'not to talk about'.

/Yes, I know the Articles are non-binding now

Frowns on these shenannigans:

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Maybe the biggest news in religion.....
Who cares?