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(PCWorld)   On the same day that the FCC begins crafting "Net Neutrality" laws, JohnMcCain introduces a bill to stop it thereby keeping the internet off of his lawn   (pcworld.com) divider line 411
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2009-10-22 03:01:29 PM
From an interview with John McCain during the campaign:

Q: But do you go on line for yourself?

McCain: They [staff] go on for me. I am learning to get online myself, and I will have that down fairly soon, getting on myself.

Obviously, he's an expert.
 
2009-10-22 03:04:31 PM
www.thingsyoungerthanmccain.com
 
2009-10-22 03:06:08 PM
McCain clearly has no clue what he's talking about here. I want his opinion on internet content and net neutrality regulation like I want my 91 year old grandfather's input on how to install Linux.
 
2009-10-22 03:09:50 PM
McCain protested the FCC's proposal that wireless broadband providers be included in the net neutrality rules. The wireless industry has "exploded over the past 20 years due to limited government regulation," McCain said in the statement.


I'd argue that the internet has not exploded due to limited lack of government regulation, but due to the lack of any regulation, which is what net neutrality aims to maintain, by telling private ISPs that they cannot regulate at their own whim.

But I'm not an old man that has never even used the internet, so what do I know.
 
2009-10-22 03:10:00 PM
McCain on Thursday introduced the Internet Freedom Act, which would keep the FCC from enacting rules prohibiting broadband providers from selectively blocking or slowing Internet content and applications.

Ah, McCain. Always looking out for the American people corporations.

Fark you too, John.
 
2009-10-22 03:10:42 PM
From his comments in this article, McCain clearly has *no clue* about what the actual implications of net neutrality is, yet he's introducing a bill to stop it. Net Neutrality doesn't prevent reasonable QoS for the purpose of efficient traffic shaping. And the regulation is almost cost-free from a provider perspective.

Niice. So he introduces legislation to kill regulation that would give actual citizens and entrepreneurs the freedom to have the necessary infrastructure to support the next generation of business.

Hint: Innovation happens at the bottom, too. In fact, most revolutionary innovation starts there.
 
2009-10-22 03:12:47 PM
unyon: From his comments in this article, McCain clearly has *no clue* about what the actual implications of net neutrality is, yet he's introducing a bill to stop it. Net Neutrality doesn't prevent reasonable QoS for the purpose of efficient traffic shaping. And the regulation is almost cost-free from a provider perspective.

Niice. So he introduces legislation to kill regulation that would give actual citizens and entrepreneurs the freedom to have the necessary infrastructure to support the next generation of business.

Hint: Innovation happens at the bottom, too. In fact, most revolutionary innovation starts there.


Yes, he is absolutely clueless. Further proof that however much one might hate Obama, McCain is worse.
 
2009-10-22 03:19:15 PM
Oooo, someone forgot to indicate "commie" on the meter!

Sen McCain is trying to prevent the FCC from gaining authority over internet *content* regulation, because the Dems are attempting to legislate that power to the FCC - now that you can create so much internet content from a cellphone / mobile device, the FCC claims to govern this content via their authority over phones / signals.

Keep the FCC away from my internet!
/teabag
 
2009-10-22 03:19:17 PM
If only McCain were in some sort of executive position to ensure that such regulations were crafted in a manner favorable to him...presiding, if you will, over the FCC and similar federal agencies.
 
2009-10-22 03:19:45 PM
no regulation = too much govt regulation

i208.photobucket.com
 
2009-10-22 03:20:15 PM
McCain on Thursday introduced the Internet Freedom Act, which would keep the FCC from enacting rules prohibiting broadband providers from selectively blocking or slowing Internet content and applications.

Double-plus ungood.
 
2009-10-22 03:23:00 PM
I believe he has found himself on the lawn of the internet.
 
2009-10-22 03:24:12 PM
Corporations are people, and people aren't!
 
2009-10-22 03:24:54 PM
Only an idiot liberal goon would be against something so obviously good as 'The Ronaldus Magnus Freedom Liberty Small Business Helper Elf Joyous Good Internet Awesome Bill of 2009'.

F*ckin' big government, FCC fellating liberals.
 
2009-10-22 03:32:38 PM
canaDn: Sen McCain is trying to prevent the FCC from gaining authority over internet *content* regulation

It's opposite day!
 
2009-10-22 03:33:42 PM
50mm: McCain clearly has no clue what he's talking about here. I want his opinion on internet content and net neutrality regulation like I want my 91 year old grandfather's input on how to install Linux.

Hey my grandfather used to work on old Univac systems so he's getting a kick....

/nah he's dead
//always wanted to know where you put the punchcard in my laptop
 
2009-10-22 03:33:52 PM
McCain on Thursday introduced the Internet Freedom Act, which would keep the FCC from enacting rules prohibiting broadband providers from selectively blocking or slowing Internet content and applications. Net neutrality rules would create "onerous federal regulation," McCain said in a written statement.

WTF is wrong with politicians naming their bills the exact opposite of their actual meaning? This is like naming your bill "Save Children from Predators Act" and then requiring sex offenders to work at nursery schools...
 
2009-10-22 03:34:23 PM
Action Replay Nick: Only an idiot liberal goon would be against something so obviously good as 'The Ronaldus Magnus Freedom Liberty Small Business Helper Elf Joyous Good Internet Awesome Bill of 2009'.

F*ckin' big government, FCC fellating liberals.


do you even listen to yourself?

\am i missing an obvious troll attempt?
 
2009-10-22 03:34:23 PM
Therion: Double-plus ungood.

No, he just wants to give the network providers the FREEDOM to use their control of the internet to fark over consumers and content providers at they please.
 
2009-10-22 03:34:46 PM
Therion: McCain on Thursday introduced the Internet Freedom Act, which would keep the FCC from enacting rules prohibiting broadband providers from selectively blocking or slowing Internet content and applications.

Double-plus ungood.


Well, it's Freedom for the Internet service providers to Act in ways that are otherwise unconscionable.
 
2009-10-22 03:35:16 PM
Peter: They will clean up all your talking in a menace such as this
Brian: They will make you take a tinkle when you want to take a p*ss
Stewie: And they'll make you call fellatio a trouser-friendly kiss
Peter, Brian, & Stewie: It's the plain situation!
There's no negiotiation!
Peter: With the fellows at the freakin FCC!

Brian: They're as stuffy as the stuffiest of the special interest groups...
Peter: Make a joke about your bowels and they order in the troops
Stewie: Any baby with a brain could tell them everybody poops!
Peter, Brian, & Stewie: Take a tip, take a lesson!
You'll never win by messin'
Peter: With the fellas at the freakin' FCC

And if you find yourself with some you sexy thing
You're gonna have to do her with your ding-a-ling
Cause you can't say penis!

So they sent this little warning they're prepared to do the worst
Brian: And they stuck it in your mailbox hoping you could be co-erced
Stewie: I can think of quite another place they should have stuck it first!

Peter, Brian, & Stewie: They may just be neurotic
Or possible psychotic
They're the fellas at the freakin FCC!
 
2009-10-22 03:36:35 PM
Postal Penguin: McCain on Thursday introduced the Internet Freedom Act, which would keep the FCC from enacting rules prohibiting broadband providers from selectively blocking or slowing Internet content and applications. Net neutrality rules would create "onerous federal regulation," McCain said in a written statement.

WTF is wrong with politicians naming their bills the exact opposite of their actual meaning? This is like naming your bill "Save Children from Predators Act" and then requiring sex offenders to work at nursery schools...


At least we'd know where they were at all times.
What, you're against it?
My friends, Postal Penguin has come out in opposition to the "Save Children from Predators Act". Can we really trust someone who doesn't want to save children from predators? This November, when you see Postal Penguin's name on the ballot, think about him preying on children. Vote Quimby.
 
2009-10-22 03:37:20 PM
idiot. This is why I didn't vote for you.
 
2009-10-22 03:37:31 PM
I don't see what the big deal is. McCain is just trying to protect the internet and our computers from an overbearing government. If Obama has is way next thing you know the government will be telling us what drinks we can and can't put in the computer's cup holder!
 
2009-10-22 03:38:30 PM
Get off my LAN!
 
2009-10-22 03:38:31 PM
Postal Penguin: McCain on Thursday introduced the Internet Freedom Act, which would keep the FCC from enacting rules prohibiting broadband providers from selectively blocking or slowing Internet content and applications. Net neutrality rules would create "onerous federal regulation," McCain said in a written statement.

WTF is wrong with politicians naming their bills the exact opposite of their actual meaning? This is like naming your bill "Save Children from Predators Act" and then requiring sex offenders to work at nursery schools...


"Let's see - how can we get regular folks, those whose political interest peters out after a 30-second sound bite, to buy into legislation that turns broadband access into class warfare? I know! We'll call it the Internet Freedom Act!"

Bandwidth providers want to extort money from popular (read "high traffic") sites, even though they're already getting paid oodles by consumers for a fraction of the bandwidth offered in other countries at far lower prices, because mo' money is good.

Who better to pitch such a stupid idea than McCain?
 
2009-10-22 03:39:11 PM
manimal2878: I'd argue that the internet has not exploded due to limited lack of government regulation, but due to the lack of any regulation, which is what net neutrality aims to maintain, by telling private ISPs that they cannot regulate at their own whim.

But I'm not an old man that has never even used the internet, so what do I know.


Gahhh ... I'm so ambivalent about this.

On one hand, I completely agree with you. On the other hand, I can fathom some sort of "neutrality" restrictions on wireless devices causing MORE problems.

I like the idea of handling this stuff more with advertising laws instead. Basically, say you can't advertise your service as "Internet" access unless it's meets net neutral requirements. Otherwise, do what you want, but you have to call it a specialized "data" service instead, like the old AOL.
 
2009-10-22 03:39:13 PM
DarnoKonrad: idiot. This is why I didn't vote for you.

Something in the future made you not do something in the past?
 
2009-10-22 03:39:42 PM
LetsGoBowling: Get off my LAN!

Stop being so baudy.

/no fat32 chicks!
 
2009-10-22 03:40:01 PM
Gamer Grrrl: Yes, he is absolutely clueless. Further proof that however much one might hate Obama, McCain is worse.

That's an unreasonable reading of my comment. On this issue, McCain has vocalized his cluelessness. That in no way means that he's not a thoughtful and deliberate man on a whole host of other issues. He just, quite clearly, indicated that he does not understand QoS technical issues, or the burden they impose on both providers and end-users.

While I might otherwise agree with your assessment, lashing out as him as globally 'better' or 'worse' cheapens the political discourse in your country. Remember, your side is the side that is supposed to appreciate political nuance.

My $0.02.
 
2009-10-22 03:40:22 PM
thamike: TPerrin: \am i missing an obvious troll attempt?



Turn it on.

/glaven?


I thought it was but sometimes you just don't know
 
2009-10-22 03:41:32 PM
LetsGoBowling: Get off my LAN!

Win.
 
2009-10-22 03:42:01 PM
There should be a law against naming laws deceptively.

However since it won't be in effect while it's being discussed I think it should be called the "Puppies and Kitties Happy Fun-Time Act of 2010.
 
2009-10-22 03:42:39 PM
LOL, old people.

Who is buying that John farking McCain came up with these policy arguments?
 
2009-10-22 03:42:50 PM
Do you think he is really that clueless, or do you think that he fully understands the agenda pursued in the proposed bill, and is merely applying the type of Orwellian double-speak so favored by the Bushies and neo-cons (PATRIOT Act, Clean Air, Clean Water etc)?

I'm not sure which I would prefer -- bewildered or Machiavellian....
 
2009-10-22 03:43:09 PM
Gamer Grrrl: Yes, he is absolutely clueless. Further proof that however much one might hate Obama, McCain is worse.

Obama is giving me plenty of reasons to hate him lately, but I still thank FSM every day that McCain didn't win.
 
2009-10-22 03:43:22 PM
TPerrin: I thought it was but sometimes you just don't know

Depressing, isn't it?
 
2009-10-22 03:43:30 PM
fark John McCain.
 
2009-10-22 03:43:36 PM
God Bless America, the beacon of freedom and leader of the civilized world. Did we use neutrality when the Nips bombed us at Pearl? Do you think neutrality stopped Charlie when he put bamboo chutes under your fingernails? No. If we had neutrality in 1776, we'd still be flying the Union Jack and have to take a break from chopping wood to have tea. Tea gives me gas. Now I drink a glass of prune juice to stay regular, but...who are you?
 
2009-10-22 03:43:36 PM
awwww too bad he didn't become president huh guys?
 
2009-10-22 03:43:40 PM
Gamer Grrrl: McCain on Thursday introduced the Internet Freedom Act, which would keep the FCC from enacting rules prohibiting broadband providers from selectively blocking or slowing Internet content and applications.

Ah, McCain. Always looking out for the American people corporations.

Fark you too, John.


The irony in the name of the act is meme worthy.

If John pulls this shiat off we should say we've been freedom'd everytime we hit our useage cap by the 3rd of the month, or blocked from watching more cat videos on youtube.
 
2009-10-22 03:43:43 PM
bacondevil: DarnoKonrad: idiot. This is why I didn't vote for you.

Something in the future made you not do something in the past?


I hear this act was so abhorrent to nature that it rippled back in time to prevent it from happening.
 
2009-10-22 03:44:05 PM
bacondevil: Something in the future made you not do something in the past?

I'm guessing that, like me, he was able to foresee John McCain being not the best person to lead America into the second decade of the 21st century.

McCain struck me as someone quite nicely stuck in the 1950s. FAIL like his statements in TFA are proof that I was right.

McCain should stick to discussing laws regulating rumble seats, spats, coal-powered locomotive engines and denture creams.
 
2009-10-22 03:44:20 PM
I can never remember if I am for net neutrality or against it to be honest. I know I hate Cox and whatever is good for them is bad for me, but I see the Dems plan to give the FCC such oversight as risky. Remember what the last guy did with the FCC?
 
2009-10-22 03:44:39 PM
Catering to corporations, while screwing the consumers, is Mavericky.
 
2009-10-22 03:44:42 PM
www.glidemagazine.com

John McCain has rocked
For a long, long time

It's time to pass the torch,
You're too old to rock, no more rockin' for you!
We're takin' you to a home,
But we will sing a song about you!
 
2009-10-22 03:44:47 PM
Also, what happened to McCain's fool proof plan to apprehend bin Laden that he brought up in the presidential race?

Killing net neutrality is a more pressing issue?
 
2009-10-22 03:45:02 PM
bacondevil: Something in the future made you not do something in the past?

pneumaticaddict.files.wordpress.com

Great Scott!
 
2009-10-22 03:45:18 PM
Can I get bullet points for the pros and cons of net neutrality..
 
2009-10-22 03:45:31 PM
Oblig;

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