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		Newsday to charge $5 a week for full access to its online content, calling it a "pioneering Web model" that will no doubt pioneer them right into bankrupcty (newsday.com)		192
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farm machine		2009-10-22 10:59:52 AM

If you all ready pay to the paper delivered to your home shouldn't you also get the online version gratis? That would allow you to peruse the paper while your out of town and the bird cage liners pile up at home.

I wonder how many people are actually paying for both?

Stryyder		2009-10-22 11:01:20 AM

Here is my thoughts

1) They will probably give it away to weekly subscribers of the paper.

2) They will probably give it away to any triple pay subscriber to cablevision (FYI Cablevison owns newsday)

3) This means its a marketing vehicle not a paper.

also its the worse site to navigate ever

Knucklepopper		2009-10-22 11:01:21 AM

troykent: So Facebook, Yahoo, Google, Myspace, etc etc etc aren't making any money? oh rally? Wait... tv news and radio stations as well... all provide free content and charge advertisers.

Facebook, Yahoo, Google, Myspace (and Fark) aren't producing news content. Television and stations subsist off ads in their medium not from the Web. Didn't think this was ahrd.

Eddie Adams from Torrance		2009-10-22 11:01:51 AM

For $20 a month I'll stick with UltraFar @#&DF% +++NO CARRIER

Celerian		2009-10-22 11:02:03 AM

El Chode: You idiots liters seem to not understand the difference between $5 a week for news you can get anywhere else, and $5 a month for total superiority.

Yous idiots TFers seems tos thinks yours sos superiors withs yours "totals superiorities." Goes chokes.

Knucklepopper		2009-10-22 11:02:37 AM

farm machine: If you all ready pay to the paper delivered to your home shouldn't you also get the online version gratis?

Know how I know you didn't read the article?

R.A.Danny		2009-10-22 11:02:59 AM

farm machine: If you all ready pay to the paper delivered to your home shouldn't you also get the online version gratis? That would allow you to peruse the paper while your out of town and the bird cage liners pile up at home.

I wonder how many people are actually paying for both?

The very first line of tfa: Beginning Wednesday, most of Newsday.com content will only be available to subscribers of Optimum Online, Newsday, or those willing to pay for it.

What was soo hard to understand about that?

wet_dream		2009-10-22 11:03:02 AM

who do they think they are, FARK?

squirrelflavoredyogurt		2009-10-22 11:03:25 AM

Catsaregreen: What?! I have to pay for content that a real, live human being had to put together. Probably a human being with a spouse and children to support. Whaaaaa! Whaaaaa! I want everything for free. Mommy and daddy and support me while I live in their basement. Why can't everyone else!

$5 a week should pay not only for the "reporter" to copy stories and put them in his/her own words, but the print operator and the paperboy who delivers it. I can employ a lot more people than what they are proposing for my $5 a week.

...and shut up mom and dad's basement hasn't flooded in years and I totally have it all decked out in the cool black light posters I bought on line. Hell as soon as I get my van repaired I'm gonna get some serious action up in here.

tbernot		2009-10-22 11:03:31 AM

Fano		2009-10-22 11:03:32 AM

mikey15		2009-10-22 11:03:44 AM

squidgod2000: I thought all "news" sites just reposted AP and Reuters stories anyways?

/for real news, not cat-stuck-in-a-tree news.

OMG there's a cat stuck in a tree ,,,Where ?

wet_dream		2009-10-22 11:04:52 AM

H31N0US: MrCheeks: SUE, DREW, SUE!

Who is Sue? Drew's wife?

No, looks more like Drew was having a 3-some with 2 girls named Sue, unless they were boys named Sue... Ewwwwwwwwwww...

mishmashmusic		2009-10-22 11:05:17 AM

Why don't we just let the government take over the newspapers and Internets? Problem solved.

poisonedpawn78		2009-10-22 11:05:18 AM

holybull99: 4.3 weeks in a month, not 4 so 4.3 X $5 = 21.50 per month. Pet peeve of mine.

actually its 4.3333 repeating. So $21.67

emerson7		2009-10-22 11:07:02 AM

Philip J. Fry: Ikam: A week? Are you kidding me?

Yeah, I wouldn't pay more than $5 a month for a collection of garbage news and poorly written headlines.

are you sure? ....that's still $60 a year for a third rate crappy rag.

R.A.Danny		2009-10-22 11:07:41 AM

How about $260 a year you math geeks.
But there are 365.25 days in a year...

VvonderJesus		2009-10-22 11:08:20 AM

tbernot: Dixie_Normous: I've had Farkers give me free TF for a month, twice.

It's just not worth it - I got real tired of seeing 20 of the same stories posted.

And most of the threads were empty of comment. Kinda like going to a party, and no one else shows up. What's the fun of that?

Pretty much this. I won't be renewing when my totalfark expires.

You don't get into TFD much, do you?

swahnhennessy		2009-10-22 11:08:28 AM

I assumed Subby was playing loose with the facts, but s/he was honest. I can only assume the publisher of Newsday uses crack. Their page-hits will plummet when they realize how many non-subscribers viewed their site casually, but will no way in hell pay $5 a week for that privilege.

Tissot		2009-10-22 11:08:46 AM

These media companies that are losing their arses in the real world, are all gonna start charging for online content, and they like using words like revolutionary and pioneering business model. They are idiotic scumbags, who are going to ruin the web now, too.

Please, please, never pay for online content for something you can get for free. And we should all, as web denizens, avoid sites that are completely over-run by ads, and especially by sites that make you, uh hem, watch commercials before the content you want to see. The advertising/marketing has GOT to stop.

I can barely watch football anymore.

Slartibartfaster		2009-10-22 11:09:34 AM

poisonedpawn78: actually its 4.3333

pet peeve ?

RodneyToady		2009-10-22 11:10:26 AM

If you're an Optimum Online subscriber, you have access to the internet, and thus won't be poking around Newsday that much for news. If you're already a Newsday subscriber, there isn't much value-added for going online to view the content, and I fail to see how that would be an additional revenue stream anyway. And if you don't subscribe to web only, you probably won't, because the cost is prohibitive and there's nothing on that site you can't find for free, and better written, somewhere else.

Young people are generally not going to subscribe to Newsday unless they are train commuters. And, unlike prior generations, many train commuters have laptops and an increasing number have Kindles, making a morning paper an option, not a standard.

Enjoy your 65+ demographic while you can, Newsday.

uncre8tv		2009-10-22 11:10:33 AM

Catsaregreen: What?! I have to pay for content that a real, live human being had to put together. Probably a human being with a spouse and children to support. Whaaaaa! Whaaaaa! I want everything for free. Mommy and daddy and support me while I live in their basement. Why can't everyone else!

Mr. Catsaregreen:
I'm going to shiat in a bucket and demand $5 for it. If you scoff at the idea of paying me for a bucket of shiat I will then chide you for expecting it for free and make you feel guilty about my poor choice of career. Then we will both make sense.

Slartibartfaster		2009-10-22 11:10:44 AM

emerson7: are you sure?

he's sure (notice his snazzy totalfark icon ?)

Leonard_Cohen		2009-10-22 11:12:49 AM

I don't know what is more ridiculous, Newsweek having the gall to impliment this or that some moron gets paid over a million bucks approved this.

trappedspirit		2009-10-22 11:13:35 AM

El Chode: You idiots liters seem to not understand the difference between $5 a week for news you can get anywhere else, and $5 a month for total superiority.

You owe me a new keyboard

moothemagiccow		2009-10-22 11:13:42 AM

WTF is Newsday?

rastjr		2009-10-22 11:14:14 AM

It's stupid to pay $5 a month for crap you can get for free.

bravian		2009-10-22 11:14:20 AM

dhudd: Two out of the first twelve responses are farkers; the rest are like me - not going to pay for something that you can get for free (information on the net).

I don't mind paying for something - but if its more than the print edition of that something - I refuse.

FVendetta		2009-10-22 11:15:44 AM

/hot.

FVendetta		2009-10-22 11:16:25 AM

Cheesehead_Dave: What an ill-advised pioneer may look like:

[www.80stees.com image 145x145]

DAMN it, beaten to it. Fail.

R.A.Danny		2009-10-22 11:16:30 AM

moothemagiccow: WTF is Newsday?

Long Island based tabloid. Actually a good read and the website posts all of the local mugshots.

RodneyToady		2009-10-22 11:17:14 AM

Leonard_Cohen: I don't know what is more ridiculous, Newsweek having the gall to impliment this or that some moron gets paid over a million bucks approved this.

Newsweek is a national magazine. Newsday is a Long Island, NY paper that sometimes thinks it's a New York City paper as well.

fizzix_is_fun		2009-10-22 11:17:26 AM

as journalism gets consistently worse, some surviving outfit (AP, NYtimes) will figure out a micropayment system that works and then will offer high quality news. Payments will probably look like 1-2 cents per article page or 5 bucks per month. Something along those lines. $5 a week for crap isn't going to cut it.

Lost Thought 00		2009-10-22 11:17:38 AM

Who is "Newsday", and why should I pay for their service?

Dr.Knockboots		2009-10-22 11:18:49 AM

El Chode: You idiots liters seem to not understand the difference between $5 a week for news you can get anywhere else, and $5 a month for total superiority.

You tell those liter peasants!
*does the secret TF handshake*

In TF land, we get tomorrows news, today. In fact, we're all millionaires who hit the powerball daily.

MoxieLover		2009-10-22 11:19:03 AM

Farkin' idiots. Nobobdy should be stupid enough to pay.

SlothB77		2009-10-22 11:19:23 AM

$5 a week for Newsday content? really?

gimpols1908		2009-10-22 11:19:36 AM

I could get the NY Times delivered to my home for $0.85 more a week and read it on my commute.

weirdos.

virtualchoirboy		2009-10-22 11:19:54 AM

poisonedpawn78: holybull99: 4.3 weeks in a month, not 4 so 4.3 X $5 = 21.50 per month. Pet peeve of mine.

actually its 4.3333 repeating. So $21.67

It's more like 4.3482, so $21.74

/365.25 days = 52.1786 weeks
//math geek
///way to much money for crap news

chandler_vt		2009-10-22 11:21:51 AM

Knucklepopper: chandler_vt: That is the suby's point..

Subby's point seems to be that access to the news should be free.

Subby's point is - what makes you think people will pay $5 when you can hardly get people to read it for free?

Clearly if you are not selling enough papers it means people are not interested in buying them. So for some odd reason they will be willing to pay more money for same content online (which other sources are providing for free)?

And if you believe that news should not be free, you are born in the wrong century.

cookereh		2009-10-22 11:22:24 AM

My local paper with home delivery is only $10 a month..... This will end well.

Fundamental Thereom Of Farkulus		2009-10-22 11:22:39 AM

RodneyToady: Leonard_Cohen: I don't know what is more ridiculous, Newsweek having the gall to impliment this or that some moron gets paid over a million bucks approved this.

Newsweek ~~is a national magazine.~~ has become nothing more than an ultra-left collection of blogs, opinions and foul smelling gas, who's own circulation is spiraling downward and will inevitably end in bankruptcy. Newsday is a Long Island, NY paper that sometimes thinks it's a New York City paper as well.

there ya go. ftfy

She comes in colors everywhere		2009-10-22 11:22:57 AM

Knucklepopper: Subby's point seems to be that access to the news should be free.

Access to the news is free, regardless of subby's point. (new window)

emerson7		2009-10-22 11:23:03 AM

Slartibartfaster: emerson7: are you sure?

he's sure (notice his snazzy totalfark icon ?)

lol...point well taken.

wow....$250 a year is alotta-lotta money. i just cannot imagine this being a winning strategy.

kabloink		2009-10-22 11:23:24 AM

El Chode: kabloink: El Chode: You idiots liters seem to not understand the difference between $5 a week for news you can get anywhere else, and $5 a month for total superiority.

If by superiority you mean seeing the same story posted 20 times from every news site and blog out there, then yes you are correct.

I mean superiority as in "literate"

As literate as any tabloid reader could be.

lippenhoffer		2009-10-22 11:23:29 AM

poisonedpawn78: holybull99: 4.3 weeks in a month, not 4 so 4.3 X $5 = 21.50 per month. Pet peeve of mine.

actually its 4.3333 repeating. So $21.67

Actually, it is 4.345 weeks in a month.
Wolfram Alpha (new window)

PitaCJ		2009-10-22 11:24:20 AM

Dixie_Normous: I've had Farkers give me free TF for a month, twice.

It's just not worth it - I got real tired of seeing 20 of the same stories posted.

And most of the threads were empty of comment. Kinda like going to a party, and no one else shows up. What's the fun of that?

You were just doing it wrong.

I miss TF :( I wish I wasn't so broke.

Of course, I wouldn't pay 5 bucks a week for a newspaper either. I liked paying 5 a month for my cheap entertainment/information/news/bad advice and an occasional personal tragedy so awesome I get to laugh for months on end website.

speedk0re		2009-10-22 11:26:02 AM

My stepbrother works there so i'm really getting a kick out of these replies...

poisonedpawn78		2009-10-22 11:26:25 AM

virtualchoirboy: poisonedpawn78: holybull99: 4.3 weeks in a month, not 4 so 4.3 X $5 = 21.50 per month. Pet peeve of mine.

actually its 4.3333 repeating. So $21.67

It's more like 4.3482, so $21.74

/365.25 days = 52.1786 weeks
//math geek
///way to much money for crap news

now all we need is the astronomy geek to come in and point out that each day is not actually 24 hours long and do the math and we will have completed the circle of nerdism.

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