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(Some Guy)   Navy to curtail "at-sea training" due to budget shortfalls. As an active duty sailor, subby can attest how pointless all the war games scenarios he has to go out and do are and rejoices   (ocregister.com) divider line 206
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2009-10-18 01:03:59 PM
Insert seamen joke here
 
2009-10-18 01:05:53 PM
This article has one sentence that referred to what you're talking about subby, and that was not the main point of it at all.

/also active duty sailor
 
2009-10-18 01:42:59 PM
Subby most likely shouldn't even be in the military.
 
2009-10-18 01:44:01 PM
The submitter must be in one of those rates that stares at a screen. There is no substitute for well-executed training in the most realistic environment possible.
 
2009-10-18 01:45:00 PM
Why do sailors still wear those little round hats? Do they serve any purpose? Why do they look like that? Don't they fly off in the wind? Do you ever feel a strange connection to Popeye or Donald Duck when you have to wear one? And what's the deal with white pants?
 
2009-10-18 01:45:49 PM
Port of Call, Bayonne for Subby. That, and the rear admiral.

/ both of which are not obscure.
 
2009-10-18 01:47:37 PM
500 sailors leave, 250 couples return.
"... blah blah blah pier-queer blah blah blah... hahaha"

etc
 
2009-10-18 01:48:00 PM
FunkOut: Why do sailors still wear those little round hats? Do they serve any purpose? Why do they look like that? Don't they fly off in the wind? Do you ever feel a strange connection to Popeye or Donald Duck when you have to wear one? And what's the deal with white pants?

The Dixie Cup is part of our naval heritage and tradition. It is worn (properly) with the Enlisted Service Dress Whites and Service Dress Blues (aka the "Crackerjacks"). When the proper size is worn, it fits snugly on the head and stands up to the weather quite well.
 
2009-10-18 01:48:21 PM
So basically subby thinks nothing is learned form said scenarios. Funny in the army we called that training.
 
2009-10-18 01:48:57 PM
FunkOut: Why do sailors still wear those little round hats? Do they serve any purpose? Why do they look like that? Don't they fly off in the wind? Do you ever feel a strange connection to Popeye or Donald Duck when you have to wear one? And what's the deal with white pants?

As for white pants, I can say that they're the bane of my existence. I'm glad I have only one uniform now that requires their use.
 
2009-10-18 01:50:25 PM
Old_Chief_Scott: The submitter must be in one of those rates that stares at a screen. There is no substitute for well-executed training in the most realistic environment possible.

I'm ready to get back to a ship. The "True Navy" experience I had as an AN/AE3 aboard the JCS is one of my most cherished memories.
 
2009-10-18 01:54:27 PM
TheReij: FunkOut: Why do sailors still wear those little round hats? Do they serve any purpose? Why do they look like that? Don't they fly off in the wind? Do you ever feel a strange connection to Popeye or Donald Duck when you have to wear one? And what's the deal with white pants?

The Dixie Cup is part of our naval heritage and tradition. It is worn (properly) with the Enlisted Service Dress Whites and Service Dress Blues (aka the "Crackerjacks"). When the proper size is worn, it fits snugly on the head and stands up to the weather quite well.


I always wondered about that, they just look like they'd fly off. And I never understood why people would wear white pants somewhere they could get grease on them.
 
2009-10-18 01:54:46 PM
USN's new "At Sea Traning" program:
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In action:
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2009-10-18 01:54:55 PM
Without wargames, how do you get to be a captain of a sub?

/Welcome Aboard
 
2009-10-18 01:57:05 PM
If subtard thinks it's pointless, maybe he should GTFO and make room for someone who can do the job better.
 
2009-10-18 01:58:37 PM
TheReij: FunkOut: Why do sailors still wear those little round hats? Do they serve any purpose? Why do they look like that? Don't they fly off in the wind? Do you ever feel a strange connection to Popeye or Donald Duck when you have to wear one? And what's the deal with white pants?

The Dixie Cup is part of our naval heritage and tradition. It is worn (properly) with the Enlisted Service Dress Whites and Service Dress Blues (aka the "Crackerjacks"). When the proper size is worn, it fits snugly on the head and stands up to the weather quite well.


I've always felt bad for our Corpsmen at the Marine Corps Ball, Us in our dress blues and the poor docs in their crackerjacks. Tradition or not, enlisted uniforms in the Navy are pretty silly until you make chief.
 
2009-10-18 01:59:07 PM
No funding. Not like that's any different from any other day in the Core...
 
2009-10-18 01:59:26 PM
The main purpose of the war games exercises, is to work out bugs in communication, and coordination between units, and to make your battle drills more routine. a billion dollar boat quickly becomes useless if the crew on board is standing there holding their junk because their comms guy hadn't synced crypto in over a year and was a little rusty. Or, if your gun crew forgets which powder bag combo is needed for what range.
 
2009-10-18 02:00:45 PM
If subtard thinks it's pointless, maybe he should GTFO and make room for someone who can do the job better.

Oooh e-warrior. I'm pretty sure the Navy has fixed enlistment terms and let's anyone in that can do the job better (and wants in). What do you need like an IQ of 85 to get in?
 
2009-10-18 02:01:32 PM
My brother is in the Navy but he's a Corpsman so he doesn't have to do the sea duty (IIRC). He was telling me some kind of hazing ritual all the new seafaring cadets have to do, I guess they're called wogs and are treated shiatty by their superiors or something. Here in California we've been seeing budget cuts across the board for some time with our budget crisis and all, been waiting for it to match our tempo on the nation level. Sucks really.

/Thought we we're moving out of the economy slump, libtards?
//I keed
 
2009-10-18 02:02:39 PM
Sod A Dog: No funding. Not like that's any different from any other day in the Core...

Are you referring to the Corps?
 
2009-10-18 02:03:27 PM
I wonder how much money they could save just by getting rid of f*cking boatswain's whistles, man-overboard drills, and the F*CKING POLISHED SILVERWARE AND CUSHY CHAIRS IN THE OFFICERS' MESS!

//Former Marine
///F*ck the Navy, most worthless overpopulated branch ever.
 
2009-10-18 02:03:54 PM
byzantinebobby: Without wargames, how do you get to be a captain of a sub?

/Welcome Aboard


what the hell is that supposed to mean?

/PREPARE FOR DIVE!!!
 
2009-10-18 02:04:00 PM
silduk: Sod A Dog: No funding. Not like that's any different from any other day in the Core...

Are you referring to the Corps?


The Marine Core, yeah.
 
2009-10-18 02:04:05 PM
APTEC

Analyze, Plan, Train, Execute, and Critique
 
2009-10-18 02:04:09 PM
Sod A Dog: No funding. Not like that's any different from any other day in the Core...

We had some wicked funding cuts when I was in during the early 90's. I was part of an opfor team that was handed a coffee can half full of blanks swept off the floor of the ammo depot. They told us to yell "Bang" when we ran out.
 
2009-10-18 02:05:13 PM
Subby, how are we supposed to accidentally start WWIII without field training scenarios?

"Aye sir, message received and confirmed. The sub is launching."

"Sailor, what color is the cover of that code book?"

"It's red, sir."

"My God."

/joking
//civilian
 
2009-10-18 02:05:46 PM
silduk: Sod A Dog: No funding. Not like that's any different from any other day in the Core...

Are you referring to the Corps?


No. He is referring to soldiers in the United States Marine Core. Hoo-Ah.
 
2009-10-18 02:06:07 PM
silduk: Sod A Dog: No funding. Not like that's any different from any other day in the Core...

Are you referring to the Corps?


No, he's obviously a Marine Core Soljer. Samper Fee!
 
2009-10-18 02:06:15 PM
Okay, I'm a civilian, never served, etc. but if hl is true, then what the hell is the Navy to do then, when there's no enemy to deal with, other than maintenance?
 
2009-10-18 02:06:30 PM
Subby should use his downtime to work on his prepositions.
 
2009-10-18 02:07:14 PM
Dr_Bojangles: APTEC

Analyze, Plan, Train, Execute, and Critique


This is good. Without TLAs and UCFLAs, the military would never get anything done.

Three Letter Acronyms

Unnecessarily Complicated Five Letter Acronyms
 
2009-10-18 02:08:58 PM
I'm a Navy engineer, and I can tell you sailors are not paid nearly enough for all the BS they have to deal with. Paperwork drills, military BS, doing training classes, getting signed off on said training, finding out about more training required, and constantly, constantly trying to keep up with maintenance, fixing stuff, trying to find ordering information for spare parts, ordering spare parts, finding time/guys to install said parts, still more stuff breaking, it never ends.

Warships are THE most complicated things on the planet, far more complicated than airplanes or space shuttles because they're so BIG. Thousands of valves, switches, lights, circuit cards, piping, hydraulic cylinders, hoses, gearboxes, electrical cabinets, cabling, on and on and on it goes.

Living onboard is like living inside a factory or powerplant. Industrial smells non-stop. Noise, loud and soft, non-stop. Small showers, small toilet stalls, small eating spaces, narrow passages, cafeteria food day after day.

I go insane after about a week at sea, at which point I find a spot on the weatherdeck where I can hide and just stare at the universe at night. Misery.
 
2009-10-18 02:11:31 PM
mark12A: I go insane after about a week at sea,

This is comforting.
 
2009-10-18 02:12:04 PM
Wrong_Intentions: Okay, I'm a civilian, never served, etc. but if hl is true, then what the hell is the Navy to do then, when there's no enemy to deal with, other than maintenance?

They harvest Navy blue from the ocean and sell it to pencil and crayon companies.
 
2009-10-18 02:12:37 PM
FunkOut: Why do sailors still wear those little round hats? Do they serve any purpose? Why do they look like that? Don't they fly off in the wind? Do you ever feel a strange connection to Popeye or Donald Duck when you have to wear one? And what's the deal with white pants?

As a huge popeye cartoon fan I am getting a kick out of your reply. Go buy the boxset of cartoons, even better than you remember them. Your kids will love you for it.
 
2009-10-18 02:14:39 PM
"$20 million to jump-start an "educational" institute to be named after the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy"

We need to spend that money where it does the most good.
 
2009-10-18 02:15:32 PM
ZipSplat: I wonder how much money they could save just by getting rid of f*cking boatswain's whistles, man-overboard drills, and the F*CKING POLISHED SILVERWARE AND CUSHY CHAIRS IN THE OFFICERS' MESS!

//Former Marine
///F*ck the Navy, most worthless overpopulated branch ever.


Hey now, doesn't sound like you're being a team player. That's why other people make the decisions.

/ooooh, military branch hat3rz thread.
 
2009-10-18 02:15:44 PM
I have a lot of respect for the military, but I can't imagine spending all that time at sea. I get horrendously motion sick.
 
2009-10-18 02:15:54 PM
Dick_Hertz: "$20 million to jump-start an "educational" institute to be named after the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy"

We need to spend that money where it does the most good.


Edward M Kennedy High School?

/conjecture
 
2009-10-18 02:16:04 PM
TheReij [TotalFark] 2009-10-18 01:48:00 PM
The Dixie Cup is part of our naval heritage and tradition. It is worn (properly) with the Enlisted Service Dress Whites and Service Dress Blues (aka the "Crackerjacks"). When the proper size is worn, it fits snugly on the head and stands up to the weather quite well.

Typical Navy thinking. 200+ years of tradition unimpeded by progress.

/Know why Navy kids look so good?
//All their daddies are Coasties.
///Coastie sends
 
2009-10-18 02:16:29 PM
I read that as "alt.sea.training" and thought that the Navy was doing away with an old Usenet Newsgroup...
 
2009-10-18 02:17:13 PM
Guysmiley:
No, he's obviously a Marine Core Soljer. Samper Fee!


Soljer Core Boy. Sampling Fee!
 
2009-10-18 02:17:34 PM
Sod A Dog: Without TLAs and UCFLAs, the military would never get anything done.

Three Letter Acronyms

Unnecessarily Complicated Five Letter Acronyms


Pfffttt!!!

For the first time in years, I can't wait to get to work tomorrow.

\ LAN/WAN Support
\\ Gonna find someway to work UCFLA into Wednesday's status report.
 
2009-10-18 02:18:22 PM
Enough already from the marine core types. This thread needs input from Fly Navy.
 
2009-10-18 02:18:23 PM
that1guy77: Subby most likely shouldn't even be in the military.

Yep. Methinks subby should have used 'prepared' instead of 'pointless'...
 
2009-10-18 02:19:03 PM
fanbladesaresharp: ZipSplat: I wonder how much money they could save just by getting rid of f*cking boatswain's whistles, man-overboard drills, and the F*CKING POLISHED SILVERWARE AND CUSHY CHAIRS IN THE OFFICERS' MESS!

//Former Marine
///F*ck the Navy, most worthless overpopulated branch ever.

Hey now, doesn't sound like you're being a team player. That's why other people make the decisions.

/ooooh, military branch hat3rz thread.


I never see any of that but from Marines. Most of the folks from other branches like to bust each other's balls, but a lot of the Fark Marines seem to really, truly despise people involved with intelligence operations, development, and support.

It's pathological and most don't seem to comprehend that they wouldn't have a job if not for them.
 
2009-10-18 02:21:29 PM
Came here for the well deserved beat down of subtard, leaving pleased.

mark12A I'm a Navy engineer, and I can tell you sailors are not paid nearly enough for all the BS they have to deal with. Paperwork drills, military BS, doing training classes, getting signed off on said training, finding out about more training required, and constantly blah, blah blah,

I've got some sad news for you when you return to civilian life. 99% of the jobs in civvy life are the exact same thing. In fact, we call it life. You won't be paid enough. You will have to take all sorts of training. There will be paperwork. There will be BS. Sorry, swabby, but that's the way it is. The good news is, there's a support group for you. We meet every evening after work at your favorite bar.
 
2009-10-18 02:21:39 PM
this should give you guys more time to do what you're good at. Drinking and nailing hookers.

/ratio of Navy and ex-Navy personnel who I've met and are alcoholics to same who are not alcoholics is about 2:1
 
2009-10-18 02:21:44 PM
D_Evans45: He was telling me some kind of hazing ritual all the new seafaring cadets have to do, I guess they're called wogs and are treated shiatty by their superiors or something.

The "wogs" are only treated like the inexperienced greenhorns they are under very certain circumstances, which usually only last a day or so. Also, it's not just new cadets that are wogs. You can have first class or LTs that are wogs as well.

Now, if you're talking about some unqualled mother farker who isn't keeping up on his PQS: yeah, he's treated like scum all the time.

/Golden Shellback, 2005
 
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