jehovahs witness protection: At least check for felonies.

/owns many guns

What he said
/owns many guns, as well.

This begs the question of why the cops are confiscating them in the first place, doesn't it?

it is only fair since you can't ask about whether the person is in the country illegally either. that would be racist.

doing a criminal background check would not be fair since it isn't the person's fault if they are a criminal or have an outstanding warrant or something else. it is society's fault.

The guy I'm really looking for--wink--is Mr. Bribe--wink, wink.

FTFA:
Sweeney says police checks before returning confiscated firearms exceeds the authority granted to the Safety Department by the Legislature.

It seems that the answer is clear.

Iwouldhitit beat me to the punch. Alas.

jehovahs witness protection: At least check for felonies.

/owns many guns


Then change the law so they can. Until then, no. Cops need to follow the law instead of skirting and loosely interpreting.

/owns guns but not "many"

jehovahs witness protection: At least check for felonies.

/owns many guns

Because all felonies are violent? And people can never reform themselves?

mark12A: This begs the question of why the cops are confiscating them in the first place, doesn't it?

Probably harassing gun wearing open carriers. They really need to take away the police cars and make the bastards walk their beats. It'll burn off a lot of their excess energy so they'll do what they're supposed to do, and stop looking for ways to annoy the citizens.

/retiring to New Hampshire soon
/intend to live free, then die.

If you haven't already, sign up for the Free State Project. They can always use another tick on their counter. I'm signed up.

A few days ago, while at a stop sign, I had a gangbanger flash a piece at me. I immediately called the police and gave them the make and license number. They got apprehended in the busiest square in Somerville, and the police did the "hands out the window - get on the ground" routine on them.

It was a lighter-replica gun. He got charged, and I laughed.

/cool story bro

moops: A few days ago, while at a stop sign, I had a gangbanger flash a piece at me. I immediately called the police and gave them the make and license number. They got apprehended in the busiest square in Somerville, and the police did the "hands out the window - get on the ground" routine on them.

It was a lighter-replica gun. He got charged, and I laughed.

/cool story bro

I'm so glad I don't live in MA.

moops: A few days ago, while at a stop sign, I had a gangbanger flash a piece at me. I immediately called the police and gave them the make and license number. They got apprehended in the busiest square in Somerville, and the police did the "hands out the window - get on the ground" routine on them.

It was a lighter-replica gun. He got charged, and I laughed.

Congratulations, you freaked out over nothing and wasted taxpayer dollars.

Mouser: This begs the question of why the cops are confiscating them in the first place, doesn't it?

I was going to say this...if you don't know why you confiscated a firearm to begin with, you should be in trouble.

This is awful! It's an outrage! This is what happens under Obama! The gov'ment is grabbing your guns! See? SEE?!

"They were ordered to stop doing checks before returning confiscated guns."

...

SOCIALISM!

Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: moops: A few days ago, while at a stop sign, I had a gangbanger flash a piece at me. I immediately called the police and gave them the make and license number. They got apprehended in the busiest square in Somerville, and the police did the "hands out the window - get on the ground" routine on them.

It was a lighter-replica gun. He got charged, and I laughed.

Congratulations, you freaked out over nothing and wasted taxpayer dollars.

Actually, intentionally brandishing is a crime. No responsible carrier would have done that. Calling police was the right thing to do.

AngryDragon: Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: moops: A few days ago, while at a stop sign, I had a gangbanger flash a piece at me. I immediately called the police and gave them the make and license number. They got apprehended in the busiest square in Somerville, and the police did the "hands out the window - get on the ground" routine on them.

It was a lighter-replica gun. He got charged, and I laughed.

Congratulations, you freaked out over nothing and wasted taxpayer dollars.

Actually, intentionally brandishing is a crime. No responsible carrier would have done that. Calling police was the right thing to do.

Brandishing a lighter. My god, you people are pussies.

The guns that we're talking about here are by and large stolen guns. Some guy gets arrested for committing some kind of crime. The cops check the serial numbers on the gun and whaddayaknow, it's been reported stolen. The gun gets confiscated, the perp is behind bars (with an additional stolen firearms charge to boot)... Now the most recent rightful owner, the guy who filed the police report with the serial numbers on it after his house got burgled, is supposed to get subjected to the additional indignity of a NICS check before he can have his stolen property returned to him? Outrageous!

The police aren't gun dealers and have no statutory authority to use NICS for the purpose of running background checks on people before they get their stolen property back. Do the police run a NICS check on you before giving back Grandma's silver necklace or your '92 Chevy that got nicked from your driveway? Nope... and this is no different.

NH Department of Safety is completely correct here.

TsukasaK: Brandishing a lighter. My god, you people are pussies.

If he knew it was a lighter, he wouldn't have called the police, dipshiat.

/has had gangbangers flash pieces at me too while in a car
//did stop to ask them if it was real or a toy

Ikam: If he knew it was a lighter, he wouldn't have called the police, dipshiat.


You don't know that.

TsukasaK: Brandishing a lighter. My god, you people are pussies.

You would have them wait until it goes bang to confirm it was a real pistol?

There are states where the dumbass gangbanger could have been shot for flashing the lighter (Texas, I'm looking in your general direction)

AtomicPlayboy: The guns that we're talking about here are by and large stolen guns. Some guy gets arrested for committing some kind of crime. The cops check the serial numbers on the gun and whaddayaknow, it's been reported stolen. The gun gets confiscated, the perp is behind bars (with an additional stolen firearms charge to boot)... Now the most recent rightful owner, the guy who filed the police report with the serial numbers on it after his house got burgled, is supposed to get subjected to the additional indignity of a NICS check before he can have his stolen property returned to him? Outrageous!

The police aren't gun dealers and have no statutory authority to use NICS for the purpose of running background checks on people before they get their stolen property back. Do the police run a NICS check on you before giving back Grandma's silver necklace or your '92 Chevy that got nicked from your driveway? Nope... and this is no different.

NH Department of Safety is completely correct here.

Agree. I doubt that a felon would report a stolen firearm...leave that activity to those who report that their drugs were stolen.

TsukasaK: AngryDragon: Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: moops: A few days ago, while at a stop sign, I had a gangbanger flash a piece at me. I immediately called the police and gave them the make and license number. They got apprehended in the busiest square in Somerville, and the police did the "hands out the window - get on the ground" routine on them.

It was a lighter-replica gun. He got charged, and I laughed.

Congratulations, you freaked out over nothing and wasted taxpayer dollars.

Actually, intentionally brandishing is a crime. No responsible carrier would have done that. Calling police was the right thing to do.

Brandishing a lighter. My god, you people are pussies.

If it looks like a gun, and you act like it's a gun, don't be surprised when people react like it's ... a gun.

Did I lose you?

AtomicPlayboy: The guns that we're talking about here are by and large stolen guns. Some guy gets arrested for committing some kind of crime. The cops check the serial numbers on the gun and whaddayaknow, it's been reported stolen. The gun gets confiscated, the perp is behind bars (with an additional stolen firearms charge to boot)... Now the most recent rightful owner, the guy who filed the police report with the serial numbers on it after his house got burgled, is supposed to get subjected to the additional indignity of a NICS check before he can have his stolen property returned to him? Outrageous!

The police aren't gun dealers and have no statutory authority to use NICS for the purpose of running background checks on people before they get their stolen property back. Do the police run a NICS check on you before giving back Grandma's silver necklace or your '92 Chevy that got nicked from your driveway? Nope... and this is no different.

NH Department of Safety is completely correct here.

yea, I still don't care. Running a criminal background check on someone before you give them a deadly weapon? Yep, that seems sensible to me.
necklace != gun.

Ikam: If he knew it was a lighter, he wouldn't have called the police, dipshiat.

I'd be willing to bet this "flashing" wasn't any more than the guy lighting a cigarette or something. OMG THE GUY HAS A GUN* HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO SHOOT SOMEONE OH MY GODDDDD!!!!1

So, waste of taxpayer dollars
Abuse of emergency services to hassle someone who was probably a minority
Getting the guy locked up over a bloody lighter.

Farking pathetic waste of human life.

Katie98_KT: yea, I still don't care. Running a criminal background check on someone before you give them a deadly weapon? Yep, that seems sensible to me.
necklace != gun.

On a gun that's already registered to them? It's no more valid than just randomly running checks on everyone.

Now, I wish they ran more checks before the original gun sale honestly, but it sounds like in this article it was rather pointless.

Katie98_KT: AtomicPlayboy: The guns that we're talking about here are by and large stolen guns. Some guy gets arrested for committing some kind of crime. The cops check the serial numbers on the gun and whaddayaknow, it's been reported stolen. The gun gets confiscated, the perp is behind bars (with an additional stolen firearms charge to boot)... Now the most recent rightful owner, the guy who filed the police report with the serial numbers on it after his house got burgled, is supposed to get subjected to the additional indignity of a NICS check before he can have his stolen property returned to him? Outrageous!

The police aren't gun dealers and have no statutory authority to use NICS for the purpose of running background checks on people before they get their stolen property back. Do the police run a NICS check on you before giving back Grandma's silver necklace or your '92 Chevy that got nicked from your driveway? Nope... and this is no different.

NH Department of Safety is completely correct here.

yea, I still don't care. Running a criminal background check on someone before you give them a deadly weapon? Yep, that seems sensible to me.
necklace != gun.

Then you DO want them to run a NICS check before returning stolen cars?

After all, idiot drivers use cars to kill more than idiot gun owners use guns to kill.

TsukasaK: I'd be willing to bet this "flashing" wasn't any more than the guy lighting a cigarette or something. OMG THE GUY HAS A GUN* HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO SHOOT SOMEONE OH MY GODDDDD!!!!1

As someone who spent a fair amount of time growing up on the south-side of Chicago, and has lived in more that a few neighborhoods back in the day where I heard gunfire regularly, I can say with certainty if someone was flashing something that looks like a gun, I didn't stick around to see if it was something otherwise.

Why the hell does this bother you so much?

New Hampshire is like Texas, except the people there aren't douchebags and you can ski.

I met attorney Nappen a few times when he lived down here in NJ. Cool guy. He knows his stuff. Likes his steak and beer.

If he argues a firearms case, he is certainly on the right side. Doesn't mean he'll win, but he was right.

Ikam:
Why the hell does this bother you so much?

Because my tax money was spent to incarcerate someone guilty of nothing lighting a cigarette.

She comes in colors everywhere: New Hampshire is like Texas, except the people there aren't douchebags and you can ski.

I was just up there this year, and have been calling New Hampshire the Texas of New England for years. My uncle, who lives there, agrees with my assessment.

TsukasaK: Because my tax money was spent to incarcerate someone guilty of nothing lighting a cigarette.

From your profile, you live in Wyoming, so unless you are living in Wyoming and paying taxes in New Hampshire, I'm not sure how this is your tax dollars.

TsukasaK: Ikam:
Why the hell does this bother you so much?

Because my tax money was spent to incarcerate someone guilty of nothing lighting a cigarette.

*nothing beyond. It's early, I haven't had my coffee yet.

Ikam: I'm not sure how this is your tax dollars.

It was more likely than not a felony, which means more likely than not he did time in a prison. Which are federally funded.


_{/hell, i think even prisons recieve some federal funds}

TsukasaK: Ikam:
Why the hell does this bother you so much?

Because my tax money was spent to incarcerate someone guilty of nothing lighting a cigarette.

You seem adamant about this; I take it you witnessed this behaviour?

As a resident of Texas (a lot like New Hampshire, but the good folks here are not douchebags, and you can... well, you can water ski), I can pretty much guarantee that if some gang-banger "brandished" a gun shaped lighter he would wind up with a 3rd eye socket directly between the 2 he was born with, and the shooter would most likely be no-billed.

moops: A few days ago, while at a stop sign, I had a gangbanger flash a piece at me. I immediately called the police and gave them the make and license number. They got apprehended in the busiest square in Somerville, and the police did the "hands out the window - get on the ground" routine on them.

It was a lighter-replica gun. He got charged, and I laughed.

/cool story bro

Oh, you mean black.

Just farking with you, wouldn't matter anyway, someone flashes their piece the cops should be called, it's just a bonus it was a lighter gun, sometimes stupidity should be crime.

Seems to me that if the cops have already confiscated someone's
firearms, there was some legal issue that allowed them to do so
and if there are no longer any legal issues preventing them from
having their firearms, they should be immediately returned.

I'm guessing the problem is that the cops are purposely dragging
their feet on returning any firearms, claiming that they don't have
the time and/or manpower to run a timely NICS check.

"Yeah, we'll get around to it in a couple of months..."

/ owns guns but not enough
// doesn't have problem with cops using NICS

hariseldon: Seems to me that if the cops have already confiscated someone's
firearms, there was some legal issue that allowed them to do so
and if there are no longer any legal issues preventing them from
having their firearms, they should be immediately returned.

That seems utterly reasonable to me too.

/doesn't own guns
//doesn't have a problem with people who do

TsukasaK: Ikam:
Why the hell does this bother you so much?

Because my tax money was spent to incarcerate someone guilty of nothing (beyond) lighting a cigarette.

Oh, so now it's a matter of record that the gang-banger was lighting a cigarrette?

From supposition to fact in just a few minutes.

TsukasaK: Brandishing a lighter. My god, you people are pussies.

I know. He should have fully developed his psychic skills to be able to tell a fake gun from a real one at a glance.

2008: 34,017 dead by cars (new window)

200?: Less than 10,000 murders with firearms (new window)

I doubt that number changes year to year very much.

Sorry, I could not find a direct .gov source for deaths by firearms that did not require lots of reading. Post it if you find one.

Kumana Wanalaia: From supposition to fact in just a few minutes.


Sigh. It's because he's trolling you. Didn't want to be the one to tell you, but there it is.

Wulfman: Kumana Wanalaia: From supposition to fact in just a few minutes.

Sigh. It's because he's trolling you. Didn't want to be the one to tell you, but there it is.

Actually, I'm trolling HIM.

Try to keep up.

She comes in colors everywhere: New Hampshire is like Texas, except the people there aren't douchebags and you can ski.

This.

Also, our concealed carry permits are $10 as opposed to Texas' $140 ($70 renewal).

And our illegals are just a couple of confused Canadians wondering where all the Tim Hortons went.

Also we have no sales tax.