WHY AREN'T THEY HIRING JANITORIAL SERVICES FROM THE FREE MARKET?!?!

You people hate America and you killed Jesus.

wouldnt it be better to silence critics by, you know, actually fixing shiat?

GAT_00: That's funny, the President think Republicans want to help.

Many do. Their leaders? Not so much.

"That's a socialist mop!"

Whatever criticisms I have Obama, I love the way he deals with wharrgarblers. He ignores them for months while they succumb to mass hysteria and then, when their rage has reached nuclear levels, he drops a snark bomb that completely deflates their talking point.

Will I be paid through a temp agency? You're getting hosed.

lol @ "That's a socialist mop."

That was sweet. :)

muck4doo: Grab a mop and some tissues for the Obama fan boys that will cum over his latest speech?

/Was that what it was about?
//Judging by the comments here so far, that's the way it looks.

GAT_00: vartian: Many do.

I'm not all that convinced of that. See the Teabaggers.

Those are not Republicans. Those are hate-filed bigots who would latch onto to anything and anyone that gives a voice to their hatred.

muck4doo: Grab a mop and some tissues for the Obama fan boys that will cum over his latest speech?

It always degenerates into a bout of homoerotic weirdness with you people. Ejaculation at speeches. Obama will be "ramming his agenda down our throats."

Go get some cock and relax already.

Occam's Chainsaw: vartian: Many do.

In the party of "f*ck you, got mine"? "Some" would be more apropos.

Check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzeECSpIl4c

I filmed this several months back. The Westboro Baptists were protesting in front of the White House with their usual insanity, and there was a gay-straight alliance group there from GW. There was also a large group of Teenage Republicans from Maryland led by a 17 year-old named Rory McShane.

He was a self-described redneck, born-again Christian from rural Maryland. He proceed to tell me how his interpretation of the bible is that God loves everyone; the Westboro people, his Republicans, and his new gay friends while his group cheered him on.

The kids are all right. The adults are just going down kicking and screaming.

Occam's Chainsaw: vartian: The kids are all right. The adults are just going down kicking and screaming.

Applies on both ends of the spectrum. You can lay the vast majority of our inability to move past problems at the feet of the status quo, and the Boomers / Greatest Gen who are fighting tooth and nail to keep it.

Truth. I guess I am stuck in the long view lately. It still shocks me that so many people on or nearing Medicare can oppose equal medical availability for all Americans.

I love this guy.

Anyone got an internet i can borrow? I need to award it to Mentat.

Snarfangel:

Better would be to have proxy voting

We could call it "The Electoral College".

or some form of proportional representation

How about we name this one "The House of Representatives"? It has a nice ring to it for some reason.

Occam's Chainsaw: vartian: It still shocks me that so many people on or nearing Medicare can oppose equal medical availability for all Americans.

"F*ck you, got mine." It's one of the oldest stories. If you can't move forward (which gets tougher and tougher as America stratifies), push everyone below you down and it looks like progress. See also: black support of Prop 8.

The black vs. gay Prop 8 thing was largely debunked.

That is not to say there are not real issues between the gay and black communities. I live in Washington D.C. and I see the tension between them almost every day, but I don't think it is as black and white (pardon the pun) as people are making it out to be.

That's pretty good.

As a bootstrapper, I don't count on anyone for splooges. I do it myself.

SilentStrider: Anyone got an internet i can borrow? I need to award it to Mentat.

I keep my internets to myself.

Racht:

That doesn't really have anything to do with being black. One of (if not the) biggest factors in opposition to gay marriage is church attendance, and blacks have a noticably higher percentage of regular church attendance. They're more likely overall to be fiscal liberals and social conservatives (like many minorities).

And without a strong black church community, the civil rights movement may never have gotten of the ground. Life is so weird sometimes.

Occam's Chainsaw:

Yah, I wasn't exactly trying to make it out as "TEH BLAX R Y WE GOT PROP 8!!!1!". It's more of what you said, that the black community at-large doesn't wholeheartedly support equality for all, when "all" includes a group that they find unsavory.

Absolutely. And a big part of that problem is white, entitled gays such as myself. It is very easy to point at the black church leaders who came out against D.C. marriage and call them bigots, but when have we ever engaged their community?

We don't seek out their opinions. We have no care or concern over the issues they face daily as a community. We just move in, buy up the depressed property, open up a few Starbucks/hair salons/organic groceries and ignore them until they are priced out of the neighborhoods they and their parents grew up in.

Then we biatch when they oppose gay rights. That simply cannot continue.