Gamer Grrrl: jsmi: I'm so white, I'm blue. It's that whole Scots-Irish German heritage.

Me too! Well, I have some Portuguese thrown in for good measure, but all those "easy to tan" genes didn't make it into my genetic code. I'm blue like 0% fat milk.

So White He's Blue (No, RLY. Only a white man would do this.) (new window)

libbynomore2:
yeah, you're right. Would that we could ALL be this " cool. "

I wish I could redefine an entire genre of music. If I could, I would probably myself a gun as well. Among other things.

Once again, FARKers show how stupid & racist they are.
Stay classy, FARK.

DROxINxTHExWIND - libbynomore2:
yeah, you're right. Would that we could ALL be this " cool. "


Lol. So now guns aren't cool? On Fark? Get the fark out of here with that crazy mess. Just wait until the next "gun porn" thread to post a pic of your Saturday night special. Save the commenting for the intellectually honest.


I promise you this is the first time in their entire lives that those gun nuts have been mentioned within three paragraphs of the word "cool."

sparrow794: libbynomore2:
yeah, you're right. Would that we could ALL be this " cool. "

I wish I could redefine an entire genre of music. If I could, I would probably myself a gun as well. Among other things.

I accidentally the post.

technicolor-misfit: DROxINxTHExWIND - GoodasGold: Culturally, being white is now an embarrassment.

Has been for a long time. Its part of the problem. IMHO, many of the white people who hate Hip-Hop culture are just angry that they are on the outside looking in at whats "cool". What are you going to be? A goth? You gonna be a biker? A skateboarder? You gonna start a hairband? Lol. Its not cool to be white anymore and unsuprisingly, some people have a problem with that.


Sorry... hip-hop is culture has been on the wane for a while now. Rich white chicks with Prada/Gucci/Juicy/whatever accoutrements have America's cultural center stage.

Those rich white folks wearing Prada/Gucci/Juicy are all at the club dancing to Lil Wayne, with their pants hanging down and their hats sitting crooked on their heads. I don't think you're paying attention.

werem00se: sir_nose: black people are cooler than white people

Not in direct sun. They would absorb more heat

/amirite?
No, we sweat easier so we cool down faster.

I love the people saying it's "divisive" to treat African American history "separately" when in fact African Americans were separated, segregated, excluded, etc. from the nation's civic, political, and cultural life for hundreds of years, marked off by their skin color as potential property. You should probably be thankful that the white role in institutionalizing and perpetuating all this oppression and inhumanity will probably not be emphasized in this museum. A truly "inclusive" history of slavery and the civil rights movement would not reflect well on most of the white people involved. (There are exceptions, of course, but the pasty-white butthurt on this thread is ridiculous.)

schattenteufel - Once again, FARKers show how stupid & racist they are.
Stay classy, FARK.


Oh, STFU... you're a little too late to take a stand, Mississippi Burning. All the hard work's already been done.

optras: I wonder what's going to be in the gift shop. Any guesses?

Shoplifters?

sparrow794: sparrow794: libbynomore2:
yeah, you're right. Would that we could ALL be this " cool. "

I wish I could redefine an entire genre of music. If I could, I would probably myself a gun as well. Among other things.

I accidentally the post.

You accidentally *what*?

DROxINxTHExWIND - technicolor-misfit: DROxINxTHExWIND - GoodasGold: Culturally, being white is now an embarrassment.

Has been for a long time. Its part of the problem. IMHO, many of the white people who hate Hip-Hop culture are just angry that they are on the outside looking in at whats "cool". What are you going to be? A goth? You gonna be a biker? A skateboarder? You gonna start a hairband? Lol. Its not cool to be white anymore and unsuprisingly, some people have a problem with that.


Sorry... hip-hop is culture has been on the wane for a while now. Rich white chicks with Prada/Gucci/Juicy/whatever accoutrements have America's cultural center stage.

Those rich white folks wearing Prada/Gucci/Juicy are all at the club dancing to Lil Wayne, with their pants hanging down and their hats sitting crooked on their heads. I don't think you're paying attention.


Among other things...

Billboard Top 10 (new window)

I think YOU'RE paying too much attention to Vibe and The Source and Hip Hop Weekly.

When you read magazines about skiing, skiing seems like the most prevalent sport in the world. Crack open a Sports Illustrated, not so much...

For a while there, yes... Hip-hop and urban culture had center stage. For a while there, flannel-clad norteastern white boys had center stage. For a while there, long-haired blue collar guys who wear mascara had center stage.

Don't mistake one more rotation in the pop culture carousel for a cultural vanquishing. Ask the Temptations and the Four Tops if you don't believe me.

Yo Dro, I'm really happy for ya, and Imma let ya finish, but Gootse was best self inflicted butthurt of all time.

/would still buy you a beer :)

technicolor-misfit: Those rich white folks wearing Prada/Gucci/Juicy are all at the club dancing to Lil Wayne, with their pants hanging down and their hats sitting crooked on their heads. I don't think you're paying attention.


Among other things...

Billboard Top 10 (new window)

I think YOU'RE paying too much attention to Vibe and The Source and Hip Hop Weekly.

Well, I do see Lil Wayne's name on there, so I fail to see how you made a point?

Farkwaddle: Smackledorfer: MaKaM: I am against this if it ends up being as lame as the Museum of the American Indian.

I believe a native american museum named that can safely be judged by its cover.

My head hurts from trying to comprehend that sentence. And for the record, there are thousands of good native american museums around the country. They're called casinos.

That sentence is perfectly cromulent. The mockery is that apparently the name of this museum labels them as "american indians" and one would expect better out of a museum.

Thunderpipes: Where is the white person museum again? Are white folk not special as well? I want a museum, and a history month.

Hmmmmm whiteys are very secial.. just that these places usually don't have the word "White" on their door frame but they are about as white as the Klan sheets soak in bleach..

some examples:

Nascar Museum
Bowling museum
Nordic Heritage Museum
Cooter Festival
George Bush Presidential Library and Museum
Confederate Memorial Park
Confederate museum
Appalachian Cultural Museum etc etc.....

enforcerpsu: Every day that we continue draw up boundaries with museums and months dedicated to [INSERT ETHNIC GROUP HERE], we will never beat racism.

Why don't we just build the museum of American Culture? Why do we keep pushing the notion that color matters?

OK, here's the deal.

First, eliminate all racism from your country. 100%. Get rid of every stereotype, every last vestige of racism of any sort. Make sure that every single person in America is flawlessly colour-blind to the point that the many racist comments in this thread, for example, would be met with nothing more than confused stares.

One you do that, then you can have your big museum of everyone, and not have any need at all to recognise the specific accomplishments of a disenfranchised minority.

technicolor-misfit: schattenteufel - Once again, FARKers show how stupid & racist they are.
Stay classy, FARK.


Oh, STFU... you're a little too late to take a stand, Mississippi Burning. All the hard work's already been done.


I was simply lamenting the state of the FARK community. So much hate, so much hate.

enforcerpsu: we will never beat racism

We will never beat racism no matter what. Racism is just one of the ideas that can make you an asshole. We'll never beat littering, violence, misogyny or gossip, either. What museums like this do is promote pride in one's heritage and understanding of the culture of others, which can help mitigate some racism and gives pleasure to people who are interested in learning about black America.

Not everything black has to be some statement about racism. While I'm sure there will be lots of material on slavery and the civil rights movement in the museum, it's not some kind of magic pill for American race relations. It's just a museum.

DROxINxTHExWIND: IMHO, many of the white people who hate Hip-Hop culture are just angry that they are on the outside looking in at whats "cool".

Hip hop is taking a beating right now. It's probably the subculture in most rapid decline. It's become bankrupt of ideas. I stopped listening to most rap music two or three years ago, after more than 20 years of being a fan and freestyling for fun. I still battle every once in a while, but I avoid hip hop nights at clubs because it's depressing :(

/kids today

sweetmelissa31: Hey, some of Bill Gates' best friends are black.

(Pic of Bill Gates and some guy)

Who is this guy? He was featured at the U2 concert, but I'd never seen him before!

libbynomore2:

(Pic of Ice Cube and some guy)

yeah, you're right. Would that we could ALL be this " cool. "

Ice Cube lost his cool credentials when he started starring in shiat like "Are We There Yet?"

DROxINxTHExWIND: GoodasGold: Culturally, being white is now an embarrassment.

Has been for a long time. Its part of the problem. IMHO, many of the white people who hate Hip-Hop culture are just angry that they are on the outside looking in at whats "cool". What are you going to be? A goth? You gonna be a biker? A skateboarder? You gonna start a hairband? Lol. Its not cool to be white anymore and unsuprisingly, some people have a problem with that.

oh look, fark's resident racist has arrived!

/You are a real piece of shiat.
//if any one SHOULD be embarrassed, it's you, Dro.

DROxINxTHExWIND: I don't think you're paying attention.

They're not any more. It's all mashups and old-school nights now. The last few drops of culture are being wrung out of hip hop. Everyone is waking up to the fact that rap is dance music, turntablism is a complicated guitar solo, and graffiti is so-so folk art. Breaking is still pretty amazing to me, though, but how long until there's 1st-5th position and kids are complaining about having to go to breakdance class?

In short, America has gotten tired of playing with her new toy after 30 years. Same as jazz, disco, punk, blues, drum and bass, etc.

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Mathematically, this is the equivalnet of having about $7,000 in your pocket and giving a homey a ten spot.

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If this was their only charitable contribution, you would have a point.

DROxINxTHExWIND: GoodasGold: Culturally, being white is now an embarrassment.

Has been for a long time. Its part of the problem. IMHO, many of the white people who hate Hip-Hop culture are just angry that they are on the outside looking in at whats "cool". What are you going to be? A goth? You gonna be a biker? A skateboarder? You gonna start a hairband? Lol. Its not cool to be white anymore and unsuprisingly, some people have a problem with that.

whhooaaaahahahahahahaaaaaaaa ... really? what about an individual?
i guess white girls are an exception then, you aint 'made' it until you have a white girl on your arm ... am i right ... am i right ... yeah, i'm right.

/like hipityhopity music, it bumps my ride
//but you actually loose intelligence if you listen to the lyrics.

Gordon Bennett:

OK, here's the deal.

First, eliminate all racism from your country. 100%. Get rid of every stereotype, every last vestige of racism of any sort. Make sure that every single person in America is flawlessly colour-blind to the point that the many racist comments in this thread, for example, would be met with nothing more than confused stares.

One you do that, then you can have your big museum of everyone, and not have any need at all to recognise the specific accomplishments of a disenfranchised minority.

England first. We'll follow your lead.

GoodasGold: Culturally, being white is now an embarrassment.

Not really, but being a racist moron certainly is.

xen0blue: in before "anyone who votes republican is a racist"

Funny, cause I vote Democrat/left a majority of the times and am racist

gorgor: Yo Dro, I'm really happy for ya, and Imma let ya finish, but Gootse was best self inflicted butthurt of all time.

oh that meme will never get old.

FootInMouthDisease: oh that meme will never get old.

Not until someone else stretches their butthole open bigger :)

sparrow794 - technicolor-misfit: Those rich white folks wearing Prada/Gucci/Juicy are all at the club dancing to Lil Wayne, with their pants hanging down and their hats sitting crooked on their heads. I don't think you're paying attention.


Among other things...

Billboard Top 10 (new window)

I think YOU'RE paying too much attention to Vibe and The Source and Hip Hop Weekly.

Well, I do see Lil Wayne's name on there, so I fail to see how you made a point?

Then you fail at comprehension.

I didn't say hip hop had disappeared. Dro said "it's not cool to be white anymore." I said "urban"/hip hop culture no longer has center stage. It doesn't. I said it's on the wane. It is. It's just one more genre now.

There was no victory... no vanquishing, no ascendance to supremacy, no triumph of black culture over white culture. There was simply a period of time in which hip-hop ruled the charts, it is no on the wane... Just as there was a time R&B ruled the charts and it waned, and a time that folk ruled the charts, and even a time when country ruled the charts, for fark's sake there was even a time when the country was fascinated with truckers, trucker music, trucker movies, and CB radios.

People get jazzed about stuff. Then they get bored with stuff. Then they get jazzed about other stuff. Then they get bored with that stuff too. We're a country that likes to wear costumes and pretend to be other people... but never for very long. For a while it was gangstas... now it's Paris Hilton.

The bigger question is why you guys would WANT it to be "uncool to be white." White people fought to improve the lot of black people. White people died to improve their lives. White people still fight to drag this country to the finish line.

So why do you want white people to be culturally marginalized? Why do you see that as some victory? Some goal to be achieved?

Because if we're opponents locked in a struggle for control of this country and its culture, then I want to know... I'll stop wasting my time fighting for and arguing on behalf of people who view me as an enemy to vanquish. I was under the mistaken impression that the point was equality, not black supremacy.

Yo dog, I like you an' Imma let you finish, but white peoples has the best History an' culture of all time!

Don't tha jus' burn yo ass?

bighairyguy: ...but the truly cool undercurrent remained. Always has, always will.

The same can be said by aficionados of every genre, style and medium. The term "truly cool" is quite subjective, after all. There are people who still dance to disco, head-bang, do the Macarena, listen to jazz, even shag and twist.

bighairyguy: I really don't think jazz and blues belong in that sentence.

Of course you don't, but they do. Jazz and blues both had great ideas and were the foundation that lots of artists built on, but they're not "cool". Go to a blues or jazz club and look around you.

If anything doesn't deserve to be on that list, it's disco.

DROxINxTHExWIND: libbynomore2:
yeah, you're right. Would that we could ALL be this " cool. "


Lol. So now guns aren't cool? On Fark? Get the fark out of here with that crazy mess. Just wait until the next "gun porn" thread to post a pic of your Saturday night special. Save the commenting for the intellectually honest.

The first words I think of when I hear hip hop are "intellectual" and "honesty", so I guess you have a point.

technicolor-misfit: Then you fail at comprehension.

Ok fine. :P I simply found it amusing that he mentions lil wayne and your link shows ... lil wayne.

I just hope the future isn't Miley Cyrus.

Even though I know it is.

Dear Bill

We applaud you foresight and visions yet again. With the new rollout of Windows 7 just around the corner this will obviously help you and Melinda focus on your niche market.

Allow me to propose wings and exhibits to get the ball rolling.

Kanye West Wing of Hip Hop Culture, a 2 minute retrospective survey of the art and artifice of Urban Music.

Kwame Kirpatrick-Caddilac Center for Automotive Design and Patronage Studies

NFL Players Hall of Personal Weapons and Animal Care.

Sharpton & James Forum for Economics and Truf, featuring the annual Sharp James Lecture on "Redistribution of Wealth in Urban America - The Federal Prosecutor"

Tyson and Ali Hall of Eubonics. Language Studies, and Medicine new exhibit "From the Dipthong to the Thong, Crackers to Crack Ho's"

Charles Taylor and Laurence Kabila Center for Progressive Kleptocracy and Murder. Initial presentation: "Disarmament, Literally, the Amin Era in Africa"

Obama Forum of Change and Biergarten, Premier exhibit "White Folks Make Good Votes and Stale Ailes"

Chocolate City Hall of Engineering and Technology exhibit, "Levees and Looting, Engineering for the Big One"

Krylon Center for Aerosol Art and Urban Decay

Mumia Abu-Jamal House o' Logic, Justice and Law

You know it's interesting. I hear a lot from Republicans that they somehow have a philosophical lock on entrepreneurship. That anyone who has created a business from scratch, or who runs a corporation, or employs people, must philosophically be Republican.

The Democratic philosophy of bigger government and higher taxes must be only the domain of those at the bottom of the social ladder who want handouts. Or folks who are guilty about allegedly not having to work for their riches, a la Hollywood celebrities.

However, the tech industry has proven to be completely the opposite. The heads of Google, Microsoft, Oracle, Apple, etc... are all deep blue. Google itself donated millions to the campaign to prevent Prop 8. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are both avid Obama supporters.

This seems to imply that, unlike Republican's claims, one's political philosophy has little to do with being an entrepreneur, and everything to do with upbringing and culture.

This is a problem for Republicans -- if it's only heads of traditional industries that are reliably red, they're going to be in trouble as US industry continues to evolve. (Which is still predominantly headquartered in deeply blue regions.)

Wouldn't be cheaper to integrate our normal museums?

Anschauer: Dear Bill

We applaud you foresight and visions yet again. With the new rollout of Windows 7 just around the corner this will obviously help you and Melinda focus on your niche market.

Allow me to propose wings and exhibits to get the ball rolling.

You forgot the Jesse Jackson Institute of Shakedown Tactics and Marital Counseling

DROxINxTHExWIND:
Those rich white folks wearing Prada/Gucci/Juicy are all at the club dancing to Lil Wayne, with their pants hanging down and their hats sitting crooked on their heads. I don't think you're paying attention.

"Oh, he's not talking about me!"

it kind of astounds me that after barely a century of steps in the right direction, us white folks still say shiat like "why don't we have our own section of the libraray/museum/etc.?"


marebito: Wouldn't be cheaper to integrate our normal museums?

What is a "normal museum"?

/approves
//hot like a soldering gun

Awesome! What we need are more things that highlight how our skin pigmentation makes us completely different in today's day and age!

I really wish people would find something meaningful to identify with. Racism sucks, period. Whether you dress is up as a "cultural experience" makes no bloody difference to me.

I saw a great show on National Geographic the other day - "The Human Family Tree" This is the sort of thing we should be showing to school children. It highlighted the fact that basically, with the exception of a few very small evolutionary adaptations, we are all the same bloody thing. Skin color and all the rest don't matter. We're the same species and we're all very closely related.

Instead, we build museums so white people can feel guilty and others can take pride out of that guilt.

Stupid humanity. I weep for thee.

Crazy Bacon Legs: Awesome! What we need are more things that highlight how our skin pigmentation makes us completely different in today's day and age!
I really wish people would find something meaningful to identify with. Racism sucks, period. Whether you dress is up as a "cultural experience" makes no bloody difference to me.
I saw a great show on National Geographic the other day - "The Human Family Tree" This is the sort of thing we should be showing to school children. It highlighted the fact that basically, with the exception of a few very small evolutionary adaptations, we are all the same bloody thing. Skin color and all the rest don't matter. We're the same species and we're all very closely related.
Instead, we build museums so white people can feel guilty and others can take pride out of that guilt.
Stupid humanity. I weep for thee.

Dominant white culture = the norm
any other culture = "oh noes we white people feel guilty! stop oppressing me! I can't relate to this! Aren't we all the same anyway?"

I'm sorry to tell you, but the deck is historically stacked. And it's in your favour, like it or not.

technicolor-misfit: I didn't say hip hop had disappeared. Dro said "it's not cool to be white anymore." I said "urban"/hip hop culture no longer has center stage. It doesn't. I said it's on the wane. It is. It's just one more genre now.

There was no victory... no vanquishing, no ascendance to supremacy, no triumph of black culture over white culture. There was simply a period of time in which hip-hop ruled the charts, it is no on the wane... Just as there was a time R&B ruled the charts and it waned, and a time that folk ruled the charts, and even a time when country ruled the charts, for fark's sake there was even a time when the country was fascinated with truckers, trucker music, trucker movies, and CB radios.

People get jazzed about stuff. Then they get bored with stuff. Then they get jazzed about other stuff. Then they get bored with that stuff too. We're a country that likes to wear costumes and pretend to be other people... but never for very long. For a while it was gangstas... now it's Paris Hilton.

The bigger question is why you guys would WANT it to be "uncool to be white." White people fought to improve the lot of black people. White people died to improve their lives. White people still fight to drag this country to the finish line.

So why do you want white people to be culturally marginalized? Why do you see that as some victory? Some goal to be achieved?

Because if we're opponents locked in a struggle for control of this country and its culture, then I want to know... I'll stop wasting my time fighting for and arguing on behalf of people who view me as an enemy to vanquish. I was under the mistaken impression that the point was equality, not black supremacy.

Lol. Jesus. You're all over the place. Where is it said or even insinuated that Hip-Hop's dominance of popular culture should be attributed to any "black supremacy" movement? Who the fark said it was "superior" to be cool? You sort of come off as insecure in your position when you attribute all of those lofty things which genre of music sells the most. Did you really have to go through the whole "white people have done shiat for the country" card? Really? White people were dragging the country over the finish line by forcing others to do the actual work? You've exposed yourself. The only one's battling for control of America is you and people like you who viewed the country's fascination with Hip-Hop as some sort of affront to you. Calm down. Nobody is trying to take your country by calling you "uncool". Thanks for showing everyone what I was talking about.

Oh, and your focus on music charts is extremely narrow. The consumer habits of music fans is not the sole determining factor in what is "cool". There are popular artist that are trend setters who never see the bottom of the Billboard Chart.

DROxINxTHExWIND: White people were dragging the country over the finish line by forcing others to do the actual work?

Yeah, none of our ancestors never did any work. They all had slaves to do it all for them. That's why black people outnumber white's 8:1 right now and not the other way around.

You make good points from time to time, but quips like that expose your skewed, bigoted view towards white people.

Spoonfed'sBuddy: DROxINxTHExWIND: White people were dragging the country over the finish line by forcing others to do the actual work?

Yeah, none of our ancestors never did any work. They all had slaves to do it all for them. That's why black people outnumber white's 8:1 right now and not the other way around.

You make good points from time to time, but quips like that expose your skewed, bigoted view towards white people.

You took an exagerrated sentence out of its context. You read this bulshiat everyday. It amuses me that its always my RESPONSE to ignorance gets folks riled up, but never the ignorance that I'm responding too. You were fine with the quote that white people "dragged everyone over the finishline", but responding with the opposite position makes me a bigot towards whites?

Examine yourself.

makes a bunch on noise that no one cares to hear.

*I got nothing