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2009-10-13 11:34:17 AM  
Ignore that one. Trolls can be interesting if they have something to offer. That one doesn't.

I've got that one farkied as 'come out of the closet'.
 
2009-10-13 11:36:05 AM  
The Laughing Kookaburra: It's you that is claiming Milk was more than he was.

Again, his legacy might mean more to someone else than it does to you. Why is that so threatening to you?
 
2009-10-13 11:36:53 AM  
"Sadly, children in public schools will now have even more in-your-face, homosexual-bisexual-transsexual indoctrination," he said in a statement."


Look, I'm a small government, right-wing nutjob, but this stuff just makes me laugh. The idea that you can indoctrinate straight men into having some cock, or a straight woman into eating muff is just ludicrous. I'm convinced these people are either insane or closet homosexuals.
 
2009-10-13 11:41:24 AM  
Lutrasimilis 2009-10-13 11:09:41 AM

doubled99: Maybe you could also explain to people who are outraged or disgusted by child molesters, that they are simply making a desperate bid to hide their latent desire to screw children themselves.

Molesting children is illegal. Being gay isn't illegal.

But you might be right about the child molesting thing being more common in the people who shriek about it the most.



Being gay has been illegal in many states, and I believe still is in some of the more backward ones,at least by their sodomy laws. As for child molesters, isn't it just a sexual predeliction that you are born with?
As for your last point, may I assume then that people who protest the war and say they abbhor violence are themselves latent killers who subconsciously like to hurt people?
 
2009-10-13 11:44:07 AM  
sayke: Not in the face! On the chest if you have to...

win
 
2009-10-13 11:59:04 AM  
doubled99: Being gay has been illegal in many states, and I believe still is in some of the more backward ones,at least by their sodomy laws.

Being gay means you are attracted to the same sex, which hasn't ever been illegal. Sticking it in the pooper is a whole nother thing altogether.

/Actually knows a couple of gay guys who think that anal is disgusting
 
2009-10-13 12:02:36 PM  
doubled99: As for your last point, may I assume then that people who protest the war and say they abbhor violence are themselves latent killers who subconsciously like to hurt people?

You may assume that if you prefer your logic fallacious.
 
2009-10-13 12:06:21 PM  
Being gay means you are attracted to the same sex, which hasn't ever been illegal. Sticking it in the pooper is a whole nother thing altogether.



You are correct, technically. Thank you. However, I wouldn't exactly say it's a "whole other thing altogether".
That's like saying "hey, I'm celebrating Thanksgiving! Come on over. What? Turkey dinner? That's a whole other thing altogether."

Actually knows a couple of gay guys who think that anal is disgusting


How repressed.
 
2009-10-13 12:09:48 PM  
To put this in a context you can understand: attraction and buttsex are one and the same?

'Cuz I think your mom is hot....
 
2009-10-13 12:12:40 PM  
doubled99: That's like saying "hey, I'm celebrating Thanksgiving! Come on over. What? Turkey dinner? That's a whole other thing altogether."

Two people that love each other are not necessarily farking each other.

Different strokes for different folks.. *shrug*
 
2009-10-13 12:20:52 PM  
portscanner: I am looking forward to the first discrimination suit where a hetero gets sued for declining a gay's advances.


I think it depends on how you decline a "gay's" advances.

Right way: "No thanks. I'm straight." Gay guy goes away.

Wrong way: "Go to hell, fagot!" You then proceed to tie the gay guy to the back of your truck, drag him to death and tie his body to a fence.


Can you see how one of these is a perfectly acceptable and reasonable way to behave and the other might get you in trouble with the law?
 
2009-10-13 12:22:49 PM  
E.S.Q. 2009-10-13 12:02:36 PM

doubled99: As for your last point, may I assume then that people who protest the war and say they abbhor violence are themselves latent killers who subconsciously like to hurt people?

You may assume that if you prefer your logic fallacious.



I merely parrot the exact same assertion that you do.
People who feel revulsion towards something are subconsciously attracted to it.
Right???
Don't use the term "logic" if you are not acquainted with the concept.
 
2009-10-13 12:42:11 PM  
Lex Kitten: The Laughing Kookaburra: E.S.Q.: The Laughing Kookaburra: Please list his most notable community contributions that, apart from his sexuality, made him a person of note. Be specific. I'll wait.


If you chose to be intellectually lazy, why would I do your research for you?

Nice cop out. Just admit he is only notable for being an openly gay guy that was murdered and spare me the bullshiat about him being a great humanitarian who's activism benefited anyone but a small minority. He was certainly no MLK.


How do you figure that him fighting for the equality of only a "small minority" of people makes his efforts any less important? If anything, I believe that makes it that much more so.

It's fine that in your life his influence hasn't been important, but in some of ours it has meant a great deal. Different strokes, dude. No need to shiat all over something because you don't understand it.


Once again. He is known for being a murdered high profile gay guy. His contribution to society other than that is negligible at best. The fact that you have decided to make a martyr out of him doesn't change the facts. Murdered high profile openly gay guy was his only contribution to the world.
 
2009-10-13 12:42:45 PM  
 
2009-10-13 12:45:15 PM  
In other news: California still broke, no new jobs, taxes driving business out of state good jorb Arnold.

Can I cash my IOU now please?
 
2009-10-13 12:50:25 PM  
doubled99: Lutrasimilis 2009-10-13 11:09:41 AM

doubled99: Maybe you could also explain to people who are outraged or disgusted by child molesters, that they are simply making a desperate bid to hide their latent desire to screw children themselves.

Molesting children is illegal. Being gay isn't illegal.

But you might be right about the child molesting thing being more common in the people who shriek about it the most.


Being gay has been illegal in many states, and I believe still is in some of the more backward ones,at least by their sodomy laws. As for child molesters, isn't it just a sexual predeliction that you are born with?


*sigh* How many times do the rational people in the world have to explain this to the bigots: BEING GAY DOESN'T HURT ANYONE! If you actually think it's comparable to raping children, you're just a moron who's farked up in the head!
 
2009-10-13 12:50:52 PM  
General Vayo: /Never understood why breeder would only refer to women.

Well, since it doesn't, small wonder you're confused.
 
2009-10-13 01:02:20 PM  
The Laughing Kookaburra:

Once again. IN MY OPINION he is known for being a murdered high profile gay guy. I THINK his contribution to society other than that is negligible at best. The fact that you have decided to make a martyr out of him doesn't change the facts MY BELIEFS . Murdered high profile openly gay guy was his only contribution to the MY world.

FTFY.

This just in: Different people value different things.
 
jvl
2009-10-13 01:02:54 PM  
Boooooo!

Should have been Alan Turing day.
 
2009-10-13 01:07:42 PM  
*sigh* How many times do the rational people in the world have to explain this to the bigots: BEING GAY DOESN'T HURT ANYONE! If you actually think it's comparable to raping children, you're just a moron who's farked up in the head!


*sigh* (with click of tongue and shake of head)
How many times do the few logical people have to attempt to educate the blindly reactionary?
I didn't equate child rape with being a homosexual. But you're in such a rush to get to one of your patented debate points you missed the question.
I wasn't referring to the punishment of this crime, just the general social attitude towards this.
If sexual preferences are decided at birth (or before?),
then how can you have such revulsion toward it?
At worst it would be an illness, requiring treatment, not punishment.
 
2009-10-13 01:15:54 PM  
No Such Agency: Good for Arnie. While he can be a real pig sometimes, he beats his own drum and comes across as a man who possesses some real integrity (a trait rarely permitted in successful politicians, especially Republicans). This doesn't mean he does the right thing all the time, mind you. But I think Milk was such an influential Californian that this is warranted.

Other than being "out" what great thing did he do that made a difference in the lives of Californians? Did he create jobs? Did he feed or house the homeless? Did he give medical care to migrant workers? Did he block development of wilderness areas? Did he provide funding to cure diseases?

All he did was announce "I prefer penis to vagina and I want everyone to know it" and served on a city council. Give me a break.

As a male who grew up in San Francisco during and after the Milk days all I can say is it was a sad pointless murder but not any sadder than any other one borne of any type of hate. What about my black friends who were killed in East Palo Alto or Oakland in drive by shootings and turf wars?

What bothers me about the GLBT crowd is the extreme narcissism that requires everyone to bow to their sexual preferences which always seem to require extreme eggshell walking or else!

When I worked at Wells Fargo which is based in SF I got more sensitivity training about gayness than any other minority. They'd mention racial concerns for 5 minutes then spend the balance of the 45 minute video showing us some banker with a boyfriend having an awkward moment when some female asks about his family and kids. He doesn't have any but he has a partner Jerry...blah blah blah...oh noes she asked about if you have kids the very audacity of such insensitivity...Clockwork Orange treatment for you.

Meanwhile my gay boss who was Hispanic and was given a pass to make crass and demeaning comments about Asians and Blacks who he hated, the gay man in my office who looked at ghey pron all day, never worked, made his quotas etc...gets nothing. Yeah real tolerence, equality and understanding there.
 
2009-10-13 01:36:03 PM  
Emily912: doubled99: Lutrasimilis 2009-10-13 11:09:41 AM

doubled99: Maybe you could also explain to people who are outraged or disgusted by child molesters, that they are simply making a desperate bid to hide their latent desire to screw children themselves.

Molesting children is illegal. Being gay isn't illegal.

But you might be right about the child molesting thing being more common in the people who shriek about it the most.


Being gay has been illegal in many states, and I believe still is in some of the more backward ones,at least by their sodomy laws. As for child molesters, isn't it just a sexual predeliction that you are born with?


*sigh* How many times do the rational people in the world have to explain this to the bigots: BEING GAY DOESN'T HURT ANYONE! If you actually think it's comparable to raping children, you're just a moron who's farked up in the head!


Ive heard it hurts everyone..... The first couple of times
 
2009-10-13 01:40:40 PM  
E.S.Q.: rubi_con_man: All sexual activity is voluntary - you CHOOSE to do each act.

Sexual activity is chosen, but one's base sexual nature is not.

People don't choose to be gay any more than you debated farking a man or a woman just before you lost your virginity (giving benefit of doubt here).

You knew which team you were on long before you started to play the game.


BS the team you play on is a fluid thing especially at and early age. Even the pro GLBT mental health contingent STILL say that sexual preference is a complex interaction of nature and nurture.

"During the decades in which scientists used to think structures in the brain governed most behavior, the onus was on objectors (whom we could call developmentalists) to show otherwise. The discoveries of the last decade or two reverse this. Behaviors (even reflexes, for example the iris response to light) are so changeable with training that the onus is now on essentialists to prove that some particular behavior is permanently governed by brain structure. Brain structure itself is definitely changed by experience and training. Essentialists must now show that not only are there brain differences, but that these were present at birth, are not the result of training or experience, and inevitably produce their results later in life. Apart from the grave logistic difficulties in the experiments we doubt this research will ever succeed. There is too much evidence the other way."

The whole article is here: http://www.mygenes.co.nz/Ch12.pdf

I know, he's a Christian so he can't get real science and his findings are suspect. Just read and then realize your mind is just a biased as anyone elses and you see science results through the filter of yours.
 
2009-10-13 01:42:32 PM  
General Vayo: I suppose us "breeders" will have our own day of honor, too? Since, yanno, we're continuing the freakin' species and all.

Yeah, thanks for the massive overpopulation.

/Half joking

/Never understood why breeder would only refer to women.

It doesn't. Then again, I get the feeling you're an idiot.

The Laughing Kookaburra: Whew. It's almost as if the only reason he is of note was because of his sexuality

That's like saying MLK is only of note because of his race. He fought to help a lot of people against discrimination.
 
2009-10-13 01:46:12 PM  
rubi_con_man: shivashakti: The Laughing Kookaburra: Whew. It's almost as if the only reason he is of note was because of his sexuality

Why is that so threatening to so many people? Unless you're part of a minority group who has no power or influence in society, you're not going to understand what a big deal that is.

Yes, because being black all the time is EXACTLY like being gay, where nobody knows your gay if you don't act out in public.

All sexual activity is voluntary - you CHOOSE to do each act.

In that way, people choose to be gay WAY more than they choose to be black. Frankly, once you have a kid, you don't even get to choose to be straight anymore.


What about interracial unions? They "CHOOSE to do each act," afterall and no one would bother a white man if he'd just stop holding hands with negroes.
 
2009-10-13 01:49:13 PM  
doubled99: Lutrasimilis 2009-10-13 11:09:41 AM

doubled99: Maybe you could also explain to people who are outraged or disgusted by child molesters, that they are simply making a desperate bid to hide their latent desire to screw children themselves.

Molesting children is illegal. Being gay isn't illegal.

But you might be right about the child molesting thing being more common in the people who shriek about it the most.


Being gay has been illegal in many states, and I believe still is in some of the more backward ones,at least by their sodomy laws. As for child molesters, isn't it just a sexual predeliction that you are born with?
As for your last point, may I assume then that people who protest the war and say they abbhor violence are themselves latent killers who subconsciously like to hurt people?


This is the stupidest goddamn thing I've yet to read. Revulsion against child molestation and war are natural because people are getting hurt. Revulsion against gay people is baseless because it doesn't harm anyone.
 
2009-10-13 02:08:58 PM  
No Such Agency: CaptainBeer: Hey! Did anyone hear Megan Fox is bi a no-talent flash in the pan attention whore? I'm floored!

At least you now have your own day to celebrate.
 
2009-10-13 02:16:43 PM  
mycatisposter: No. It simply creates an uncomfortable disciplinary situation when an employee's breath smells literally like crap and clients complain about it.

If someone's breath smells like actual poo, they need to see a doctor. That's a symptom of a serious medical condition, not a hygeine issue.

That being said, you're an ass.
 
2009-10-13 02:23:26 PM  
elvis-pelt.com

One thing does not undo his epic asshattery.
 
2009-10-13 02:26:02 PM  
mycatisposter: Maybe some dentists will offer discounted cleanings to the gay men whose breath smells like feces from sucking on something that was crammed in their rectum.
That would benefit everyone.


LOL You do know hets have anal and oral sex as well, right? How's the breath of the females you know?

/it's called sexual hygiene, i.e. no azz to mouth, azz to vagina, etc.

//Know how I know you're a virgin?
 
2009-10-13 02:31:45 PM  
GT_bike: I know, he's a Christian so he can't get real science and his findings are suspect. Just read and then realize your mind is just a biased as anyone elses and you see science results through the filter of yours.

Your snark aside, the scientific findings of someone who claims themselves to be a christian (thereby denying science) should be taken with a grain of salt.

Ideally, you would have a researcher who is agnostic atheist (mind is open to the possibility, show me the evidence either way kthx).

If you go around wearing your bias on your sleeve, you have zero right to complain when someone points it out.
 
2009-10-13 02:51:29 PM  
GT_bike: BS the team you play on is a fluid thing especially at and early age. Even the pro GLBT mental health contingent STILL say that sexual preference is a complex interaction of nature and nurture.

So you are in fact afraid you'll be tempted to the Dark Side.

/apparently the food is better there
//and the fashion faaabulous
 
2009-10-13 04:15:39 PM  
abfab: mycatisposter: Maybe some dentists will offer discounted cleanings to the gay men whose breath smells like feces from sucking on something that was crammed in their rectum.
That would benefit everyone.

LOL You do know hets have anal and oral sex as well, right? How's the breath of the females you know?

/it's called sexual hygiene, i.e. no azz to mouth, azz to vagina, etc.

//Know how I know you're a virgin?


Know how I know that you don't mind a slight taste of feces?
 
2009-10-13 04:18:48 PM  
WFern 2009-10-13 01:49:13 PM

doubled99: Lutrasimilis 2009-10-13 11:09:41 AM

doubled99: Maybe you could also explain to people who are outraged or disgusted by child molesters, that they are simply making a desperate bid to hide their latent desire to screw children themselves.

Molesting children is illegal. Being gay isn't illegal.

But you might be right about the child molesting thing being more common in the people who shriek about it the most.


Being gay has been illegal in many states, and I believe still is in some of the more backward ones,at least by their sodomy laws. As for child molesters, isn't it just a sexual predeliction that you are born with?
As for your last point, may I assume then that people who protest the war and say they abbhor violence are themselves latent killers who subconsciously like to hurt people?

This is the stupidest goddamn thing I've yet to read. Revulsion against child molestation and war are natural because people are getting hurt. Revulsion against gay people is baseless because it doesn't harm anyone.



LOL. Now THAT is the stupidest thing I've read today. Revulsion against things you don't like is natural. Revulsion applied to things you can't relate to is baseless.
How open minded and liberal of you.
Personally,I believe in the right to an abortion, but I don't deny the protesters their right to be repulsed and offended by it.
 
2009-10-13 05:03:35 PM  
mycatisposter: Maybe some dentists will offer discounted cleanings to the gay men whose breath smells like feces from sucking on something that was crammed in their rectum.
That would benefit everyone.


portscanner: I am looking forward to the first discrimination suit where a hetero gets sued for declining a gay's advances.

GT_bike: In other news: California still broke, no new jobs, taxes driving business out of state good jorb Arnold.

Can I cash my IOU now please?


i676.photobucket.com
wow, just wow, thanks for brightening my day with your dumbshiaterry whichever one of you thinks he's getting a day "because he was gay and dead", I lost track from all the quoting...
 
2009-10-13 05:29:18 PM  
doubled99: *sigh* How many times do the rational people in the world have to explain this to the bigots: BEING GAY DOESN'T HURT ANYONE! If you actually think it's comparable to raping children, you're just a moron who's farked up in the head!


*sigh* (with click of tongue and shake of head)
How many times do the few logical people have to attempt to educate the blindly reactionary?
I didn't equate child rape with being a homosexual. But you're in such a rush to get to one of your patented debate points you missed the question.
I wasn't referring to the punishment of this crime, just the general social attitude towards this.
If sexual preferences are decided at birth (or before?),
then how can you have such revulsion toward it?
At worst it would be an illness, requiring treatment, not punishment.


well for one thing peadeophelia is not a "sexual preference"
according to the so-called experts virtually every child-rapist was a victim of abuse themselves...
 
2009-10-13 06:00:18 PM  
at80eighty: mossberg: given that it was all not that long ago there was a considerable effort among republicans to change the constitution to allow him to run for president despite his foreign birth

wait what? linky? that makes the Birthers look farking ridiculous!


like the birthers need any help with that!
 
2009-10-13 06:49:51 PM  
fanbladesaresharp: these were Bay Area public schools

bay area? more like homosexual area
 
2009-10-13 07:05:17 PM  
Lesse...

First openly gay elected official - IE, was elected AFTER being openly gay.

Fought for the rights of a previously ignored minority.

Passed pooper-scooper laws.

Sure, yeah, he didn't have as big a pull as MLK, and the minority is an invisible one, unless they identify themselves as part of it...
 
2009-10-13 07:55:05 PM  
Why is this such a huge deal? Just keep your elementary schoolers home or sign them out of the activities. Everyone else have fun or biatch all day. Whatever. And Arnie deserves derision if he capitulated and admiration if he changed his mind. How can one tell?
 
2009-10-13 08:22:01 PM  
Summercat: Passed pooper-scooper laws.

Well hold the presses!
 
2009-10-13 08:30:05 PM  
There were only three observances per year in public schools:

(1) The second Wednesday in May as the Day of the Teacher.
(2) April 21 of each year as John Muir Day.
(3) April 6 of each year as California Poppy Day.
This law adds a fourth:
(4) May 22 of each year as Harvey Milk Day.

Note there is no Reagan day, the first California governor to become president of the United States. Nor is there a Ford day, the first US president to be shot entering the office of the California governor.

Yes, Harvey MLK day is pure indoctrination.
 
2009-10-13 08:42:23 PM  
RastaKins: Note there is no Reagan day

too gay
 
2009-10-13 09:16:17 PM  
Reagan doesn't deserve to have his own day. For what, using a credit card for the day to day operation of our economy? The guy was a schmuck. Senile at that.
 
2009-10-13 10:15:18 PM  
What the crap? Why should a gay activist get a day of honor just for being a gay activist? Where are all the days for the hetero activists fighting against the gay takeover?

People are born black. "Gay" is a lifestyle, just like drinking, taking drugs, overeating, etc. And generally less healthy.
 
2009-10-13 10:32:49 PM  
E.S.Q.: This goes against the heterosexual agenda.

Sadly, children in public schools will now have even more confusion due to the relentless in-your-face, heterosexual indoctrination.

Strange how all those heterosexual indoctrinating propagandists seem to be of the religious persuasion. Must be something in the holy water.


Not everyone who is capable of recognizing homosexuality as a sickness is religious. This is just politics at work, not some monumental achievement for the LGBT propaganda machine.
 
2009-10-13 10:37:34 PM  
theinsultabot9000: portscanner: I am looking forward to the first discrimination suit where a hetero gets sued for declining a gay's advances.

i cant believe you hooked that many fish in a row. i was going to give you a failing grade for that troll, for not being subtle enough, but that kind of combo multiplier is pretty damn nice, 8/10


That impressed me too...
 
2009-10-13 10:38:47 PM  
farkin_Gary: First the Presidential Medal of Freedom, then the Academy Award for best actor, then The Nobel Peace Prize, and now, May 22 has been marginalized.


Ain't nothin' worth a spit no more.


THIS
 
2009-10-13 10:57:52 PM  
Milk is a strange last name. So is Strange. w/e, do what you do, Ahnold.
 
2009-10-13 10:57:54 PM  
The Laughing Kookaburra: shivashakti: The Laughing Kookaburra: Whew. It's almost as if the only reason he is of note was because of his sexuality

That's like saying the only reason MLK Jr is of note..is because he's black. Yes, he's black. But he accomplished great things in civil rights. As did Harvey Milk, to a lesser extent. That's why he deserves recognition.

Why is that so threatening to so many people? Unless you're part of a minority group who has no power or influence in society, you're not going to understand what a big deal that is.

My point was: Don't try to separate him from his sexuality as if he were a noted scientist who just happened to be gay. He is famous because he was a rump ranger who met an unfortunate demise. Why is this so threatening to people who have an agenda and are always looking to play the oppressed minority card?


Hey let's take it easy on shivashakti...there is obviously an axe to grind and it aint gonna sharpen itself. Power and influence are achieved not given. You aren't entitled to success because you are or are not gay/straight, black/white, young/old. The "woe is us" minority crowd will never get that...it's too much work and it means taking responsibly for themselves.
 
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