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2009-10-08 07:00:32 PM
yeah..

just like when she "sat on her dad's lap and watched carl" (lewis) compete in the olympics.

nevermind she was 20 years old at the time.

lying bee-otch

/and you wonder why her chicago bid failed..
 
2009-10-08 07:03:07 PM
Elephantman: The ultimate would be to research Barry's family and then find out it was his ancestors that sold Michelle's ancestors into slavery.

lavocedelpadrone.net
My grandfather used to work for your grandfather. Of course the rates have gone up!
 
2009-10-08 07:07:49 PM
bartink: Devil's Playground:
True story:

I had a gf that had a friend that worked at an office job in Houston. They were hiring a new position and her job was to collect the resumes. She was ordered to sort through them for any black sounding names since her boss "didn't want those people working for her".

This isn't an isolated event. Its better now than ever, but it isn't over. And its the height of narcissism to say, "I never received any advantage due to the legacy of slavery."


I received the benefit of not being summarily denied employment by that percentage of the population that still has animosity for black people and from not having to compete with them for jobs in those situations. I'd rather have been able to check a box and get a bump worth a whole gpa point or 8 lsat points ahead of 80% of the applicable populaton when I was applying to law school though. I think its unfair, but I'm not bitter, and I think you discount the advantages being black confers on those who choose to work hard.
 
2009-10-08 07:09:19 PM
When did this happen?
Ohhhh, I get it. This is part of Obama's double secret agenda.
Right after he kills all the old white people.
 
2009-10-08 07:14:37 PM
relcec: I received the benefit of not being summarily denied employment by that percentage of the population that still has animosity for black people and from not having to compete with them for jobs in those situations. I'd rather have been able to check a box and get a bump worth a whole gpa point or 8 lsat points ahead of 80% of the applicable populaton when I was applying to law school though. I think its unfair, but I'm not bitter, and I think you discount the advantages being black confers on those who choose to work hard.

That's fair enough. But those institutions that actually provide some form of affirmative action are but one pixel of a giant picture.

I don't like race-based affirmative action.
 
2009-10-08 07:15:33 PM
cryinoutloud [TotalFark] Quote 2009-10-08 04:41:30 PM
In other news: President Obama signs bill to give massive reparations to descendants of slaves.


FTFM
When did this happen?
Ohhhh, I get it. This is part of Obama's double secret agenda.
Right after he kills all the old white people.
 
2009-10-08 07:18:31 PM
Devil's Playground: You are right, I never experienced those things in my life. But those are a result of racism, not past slavery. I feel truly sorry for you that you have experienced such travesties in your life, but ask you how taking $500.00 from me and giving it to you will make that stop? I do not think that would do anything at all towards easing racial tension in this country. I also hope you understand that not all of the "white" people in this country look at you and think they are superior based solely upon your skin tone. We don't.

Oh, and by the way? My mothers parents immigrated from Ireland in the late twenties, my fathers mother was born in Denmark, and my paternal great grandfather was french Canadian. I do not believe any of those places participated in the slave trade. Am I still responsible to fork over $500.00?


You are putting words in mouth. I'm not advocating reparations. I haven't a clue why you think I am. You are also assuming I'm black. I'm not. But I know folks it has and continues to happen to.

I'm simply stating what I think is obvious. If you want to predict how much money, education, the price of their future house, how likely someone is to go to prison, and any other of a number of things about how a child will wind up, you can come close by simply finding out what race they are. Especially a few decades ago.

That is the legacy of slavery.
 
2009-10-08 07:22:15 PM
dstrick44: cryinoutloud [TotalFark] Quote 2009-10-08 04:41:30 PM
In other news: President Obama signs bill to give massive reparations to descendants of slaves.


FTFM
When did this happen?
Ohhhh, I get it. This is part of Obama's double secret agenda.
Right after he kills all the old white people.


Listen, all we need are bootstraps and death panels. Got it?
 
2009-10-08 07:22:55 PM
Devil's Playground Quote 2009-10-08 06:58:59 PM
bartink:
Let's see, you were never followed around a store, regardless of your dress because you were black. You were never pulled over for driving while black. You were never denied housing for being black. You were never denied a loan for being black.

Everyone works hard. Even black people. They simply have had much higher hurdles to achieve success than whites for reasons of race.

Do you really think racism magically ended with the passage of the Civil Rights legislation in the sixties? Do you really think that people flipped a switch and said, "You know, I used to think they were subhuman and worthy of discrimination, but now they are just peachy keen."

I live in Texas. I know that this shiat still goes on.


You are right, I never experienced those things in my life. But those are a result of racism, not past slavery. I feel truly sorry for you that you have experienced such travesties in your life, but ask you how taking $500.00 from me and giving it to you will make that stop? I do not think that would do anything at all towards easing racial tension in this country. I also hope you understand that not all of the "white" people in this country look at you and think they are superior based solely upon your skin tone. We don't.

Oh, and by the way? My mothers parents immigrated from Ireland in the late twenties, my fathers mother was born in Denmark, and my paternal great grandfather was french Canadian. I do not believe any of those places participated in the slave trade. Am I still responsible to fork over $500.00?


How about inventions that were co-opted by slave owners.
Things like the cotton gin & refrigeration. Just to name a couple. Should the descendants of the slaves be able to sue for restoration of their rightful fortunes?
Who knows what contributions were made by slaves that were then stolen by their owners?
You know? Somebody should dedicate a week or even a whole month
to celebrating black folks' contributions to society and putting them in the history books where they belong.
 
2009-10-08 07:24:05 PM
Vlad the Impala: Sardonic_Padre: medius: Suede head: They despised anyone who lived a settled life.

what is best in life?

From memory:

"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you and to hear the laminationslamentation of their women."

FTFY
\Nice quote though


ty sir.

/memory plays tricks on me
//so does spell check
 
2009-10-08 07:27:54 PM
bartink: Devil's Playground: You are right, I never experienced those things in my life. But those are a result of racism, not past slavery. I feel truly sorry for you that you have experienced such travesties in your life, but ask you how taking $500.00 from me and giving it to you will make that stop? I do not think that would do anything at all towards easing racial tension in this country. I also hope you understand that not all of the "white" people in this country look at you and think they are superior based solely upon your skin tone. We don't.

Oh, and by the way? My mothers parents immigrated from Ireland in the late twenties, my fathers mother was born in Denmark, and my paternal great grandfather was french Canadian. I do not believe any of those places participated in the slave trade. Am I still responsible to fork over $500.00?

You are putting words in mouth. I'm not advocating reparations. I haven't a clue why you think I am. You are also assuming I'm black. I'm not. But I know folks it has and continues to happen to.

I'm simply stating what I think is obvious. If you want to predict how much money, education, the price of their future house, how likely someone is to go to prison, and any other of a number of things about how a child will wind up, you can come close by simply finding out what race they are. Especially a few decades ago.

That is the legacy of slavery.



It's partly about that, but a a bigger part of the problem is due to the loss of inner city manufacturing in 60's, 70's, and early 80's. Unfortunately, a lot of problems have been ingrained culturaly at this point. That's why you have just as bad problems in phildelphia and chicago as you do in houston. It really has very little to do with the fact that someones ancestor was a slave at this point.
 
2009-10-08 07:29:22 PM
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2009-10-08 07:29:32 PM
relcec: bartink: Devil's Playground: You are right, I never experienced those things in my life. But those are a result of racism, not past slavery. I feel truly sorry for you that you have experienced such travesties in your life, but ask you how taking $500.00 from me and giving it to you will make that stop? I do not think that would do anything at all towards easing racial tension in this country. I also hope you understand that not all of the "white" people in this country look at you and think they are superior based solely upon your skin tone. We don't.

Oh, and by the way? My mothers parents immigrated from Ireland in the late twenties, my fathers mother was born in Denmark, and my paternal great grandfather was french Canadian. I do not believe any of those places participated in the slave trade. Am I still responsible to fork over $500.00?

You are putting words in mouth. I'm not advocating reparations. I haven't a clue why you think I am. You are also assuming I'm black. I'm not. But I know folks it has and continues to happen to.

I'm simply stating what I think is obvious. If you want to predict how much money, education, the price of their future house, how likely someone is to go to prison, and any other of a number of things about how a child will wind up, you can come close by simply finding out what race they are. Especially a few decades ago.

That is the legacy of slavery.


It's partly about that, but a a bigger part of the problem is due to the loss of inner city manufacturing in 60's, 70's, and early 80's. Unfortunately, a lot of problems have been ingrained culturaly at this point. That's why you have just as bad problems in phildelphia and chicago as you do in houston. It really has very little to do with the fact that someones ancestor was a slave at this point.


I meant to add that the sexual revolution of the 60's, 70's, and early 80's played just as an important fo a role as the loss of those jobs.
 
2009-10-08 07:43:15 PM
bartink:
You are putting words in mouth. I'm not advocating reparations. I haven't a clue why you think I am.

My apologies. I am working and trying to keep up with this thread, and mixed you up with an earlier post.

I understand that the blacks have a much harder time in the U.S.A., but my point is that it does not matter what your circumstances are, in this day and age anyone can overcome poverty and break the cycle if they wish to do it. I am fairly successful, while my brother is still living in poverty. He is always telling me how he is held down by society. I tell him that he is held down only by himself. He has adopted a loser mentality, and it is easier to blame someone else than to blame himself. I think that goes for most people. I really think, in most cases, that poverty is a choice.
 
2009-10-08 07:45:48 PM
bartink:

Everyone works hard. Even black people. They simply have had much higher hurdles to achieve success than whites for reasons of race.

Everyone does NOT work hard.
 
2009-10-08 07:46:30 PM
Devil's Playground: I really think, in most cases, that poverty is a choice.

No worries. I mix people up all the time, especially their voices in my head.

I don't think people choose to be poor. I think they don't have the genetics and opportunity that others do. Middle class kids rarely end up poor. Rich kids almost never do. But poor kids almost always do. That says to me that it isn't a choice that's going on here, but a result of something else.
 
2009-10-08 07:47:08 PM
didact: Everyone does NOT work hard.

Most people work hard. I shouldn't have used "everyone". I stand corrected.
 
2009-10-08 07:47:22 PM
wet_dream: A little girl wrote to Sarah Palin and asked;
'How did the human race start?'
Sarah Palin answered, 'God made Adam and Eve;
They had children; and so was all mankind made.'
Two days later the girl wrote to Michelle Obama
and asked the same question.
Michelle Obama answered,
'Many years ago there were monkeys from
which the human race evolved.'
The confused girl went to her father and said,
'Dad, how is it possible that Sarah Palin told me
the Human race was created by God,
And Michelle Obama said they evolved from monkeys.'
The father answered, 'Well, Dear, it is very simple,
Sarah Palin told you about her ancestors
and Michelle Obama told you about hers.'


My racist, 12-pack per day alcoholic Uncle actually believes that Blacks, Mexicans, and other "brown people" evolved from Apes, while White People are descended from Adam and Eve. No joke.

Another thing about my Uncle, he's poor and broke and can't hold a steady job because he's drunk all the time. He blames Black people for the fact that he's poor, because they "keep the White man down!"
 
2009-10-08 07:49:29 PM
bartink: I'm simply stating what I think is obvious. If you want to predict how much money, education, the price of their future house, how likely someone is to go to prison, and any other of a number of things about how a child will wind up, you can come close by simply finding out what race they are. Especially a few decades ago.

That is the legacy of slavery.


That's the legacy of welfare. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
 
2009-10-08 07:49:45 PM
relcec: It's partly about that, but a a bigger part of the problem is due to the loss of inner city manufacturing in 60's, 70's, and early 80's. Unfortunately, a lot of problems have been ingrained culturaly at this point. That's why you have just as bad problems in phildelphia and chicago as you do in houston. It really has very little to do with the fact that someones ancestor was a slave at this point.

I see your point and you are right. But I would posit the culture issue is the result of slavery and its legacy of discrimination and racism.

It was tough not to long ago for people when they literally knew no one that went to college, were probably victims of some kind of trauma, had no one that believed in them, etc. I think it gets ingrained in groups and is perpetuated for generations.
 
2009-10-08 07:50:16 PM
Humans did not evolve from monkeys. Most evolutionists that I know just believe that monkeys and humans share a common ancestor, not that monkeys are the ancestor. That being said, we all look like monkeys at least a little bit.
 
2009-10-08 07:50:35 PM
Molavian: That's the legacy of welfare. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Bullshiat. The poor have remained poor throughout history. This didn't magically start happening when we tried to help them. That's right wing pap, IMO.
 
2009-10-08 07:51:47 PM
gorgor: http://tinyurl.com/yjspyy5

You, sir, owe me a new keyboard and a bottle of Coca-Cola!
 
2009-10-08 07:53:33 PM
I researched my ancestry and found that my ancestors were slave owners, so I'm getting a kick out of this thread...
 
2009-10-08 07:53:37 PM
relcec: relcec: bartink: Devil's Playground:

It's partly about that, but a a bigger part of the problem is due to the loss of inner city manufacturing in 60's, 70's, and early 80's. Unfortunately, a lot of problems have been ingrained culturaly at this point. That's why you have just as bad problems in phildelphia and chicago as you do in houston. It really has very little to do with the fact that someones ancestor was a slave at this point.

I meant to add that the sexual revolution of the 60's, 70's, and early 80's played just as an important fo a role as the loss of those jobs.


Finally white flight had a big role too. If inner city blacks had a good 30 years with which to try to make good out of the civil rights legislation we'd be in a different spot I think. As it was the loss of stable manufacturing jobs, the loss of stigmitization of having babies out of wedlock, the increase of welfare payments to mothers who had babies out of wedlock, and the flight of higher earning whites from the cities (which resulted in the gerneral degredation of the cities) resulted in a lot of presure on that community just when they should have been realizing long held dreams. Unfortunately a lot of the the problems seems to have become ingrained culturally at this point. It's hard to know what to do now.
 
2009-10-08 08:00:32 PM
bartink: didact: Everyone does NOT work hard.

Most people work hard. I shouldn't have used "everyone". I stand corrected.


I propose that if you could measure success and hard work you would find a correlation that crosses racial boundaries.

I would also propose that if you could also measure the amount of time a parent (or two!) positively contributes to the education of a child, you would also find a correlation to the aforementioned success.

The responsibility for success or failure of a person in this country first falls upon the parents, then it is handed off to the individual. If either of these two fail to take ownership of this responsibility, success becomes that much more challenging.

But to blame anyone else for your failure at this point in history is folly.
 
2009-10-08 08:06:07 PM
didact: I propose that if you could measure success and hard work you would find a correlation that crosses racial boundaries.

I wouldn't. Many of the poor work long hours and have more kids, which is even more work. For everyone person that is content to lay around on welfare (much more difficult nowdays) I can find you some middle class or rich kid laying around being supported by their parents.

They just don't work as smart.

didact: I would also propose that if you could also measure the amount of time a parent (or two!) positively contributes to the education of a child, you would also find a correlation to the aforementioned success.

No question. The research concerning reading to your child before age four is pretty indisputable. Actually, the research shows that if you do that and don't beat/berate your children, its a great indicator of success. Its more important than any other factor.
 
2009-10-08 08:07:11 PM
bartink: Devil's Playground: I just turned 49 in September, and am a Caucasian. We were dirt poor growing up, and most people would consider my father white trash. Please tell me what huge advantage that was the legacy of slavery that I was given. I have had to work hard all my life.
Also, I have to tell you that my mother dated black men in the 1970's, and most of them were successful businessmen, one was a doctor. They just did not believe that they were "held down" by whitey. One of them is the reason I have worked hard to leave my fathers lifestyle behind.

Your blanket statement above points to your own ignorance.

Let's see, you were never followed around a store, regardless of your dress because you were black. You were never pulled over for driving while black. You were never denied housing for being black. You were never denied a loan for being black.

Everyone works hard. Even black people. They simply have had much higher hurdles to achieve success than whites for reasons of race.

Do you really think racism magically ended with the passage of the Civil Rights legislation in the sixties? Do you really think that people flipped a switch and said, "You know, I used to think they were subhuman and worthy of discrimination, but now they are just peachy keen."

I live in Texas. I know that this shiat still goes on.



You've been practicing...but;

Let's see, you were never followed around a store, regardless of your dress because your hair was long. You were never pulled over for driving while looking like a hippy. You were never denied housing for being penniless. You were never denied a loan for being an unproven credit risk.

Oh yeah, yes I was.

Should I feel disenfranchised?
 
2009-10-08 08:07:29 PM
relcec: It's hard to know what to do now.

Spend more money on education across the board. Make it easier to fire bad teachers.

My two cents.
 
2009-10-08 08:08:38 PM
WOBB: gorgor: http://tinyurl.com/yjspyy5

You, sir, owe me a new keyboard and a bottle of Coca-Cola!


img44.imageshack.us

/never thought I'd post a Gorgor link
/thread was becoming tedious
 
2009-10-08 08:10:15 PM
farkin_Gary: You've been practicing...but;

Let's see, you were never followed around a store, regardless of your dress because your hair was long. You were never pulled over for driving while looking like a hippy. You were never denied housing for being penniless. You were never denied a loan for being an unproven credit risk.

Oh yeah, yes I was.

Should I feel disenfranchised?


Because cutting your hair is the same as changing to white.

Were you a victim of unwarranted prejudice? You bet. Is it the same as having a skin color that can't be changed with a trip to the barber? You better believe it.

As far as not having money...

That's fine by me. If you can't show you can pay the rent, why should they allow you to live there? That isn't the same as showing you can pay the rent but not getting a call back on the phone because you "sound black".
 
2009-10-08 08:15:05 PM
bartink: Is it the same as having a skin color that can't be changed with a trip to the barber? You better believe it isn't.

FTFM.
 
2009-10-08 08:16:53 PM
bartink:

I wouldn't. Many of the poor work long hours and have more kids, which is even more work.


You've snuck another variable into the formula there - the one about having more kids... I say that this hard worker would attain success but for the other correlation I mentioned:

didact: I would also propose that if you could also measure the amount of time a parent (or two!) positively contributes to the education of a child, you would also find a correlation to the aforementioned success.

The hard worker has chosen to have more kids. Yet he/she does not improve on the amount of time spent per child over what his/her parents did. This is the perpetuation of the failure, not the income level or the long hours!
 
2009-10-08 08:17:30 PM
bartink: farkin_Gary: You've been practicing...but;

Let's see, you were never followed around a store, regardless of your dress because your hair was long. You were never pulled over for driving while looking like a hippy. You were never denied housing for being penniless. You were never denied a loan for being an unproven credit risk.

Oh yeah, yes I was.

Should I feel disenfranchised?

Because cutting your hair is the same as changing to white.

Were you a victim of unwarranted prejudice? You bet. Is it the same as having a skin color that can't be changed with a trip to the barber? You better believe it.

As far as not having money...

That's fine by me. If you can't show you can pay the rent, why should they allow you to live there? That isn't the same as showing you can pay the rent but not getting a call back on the phone because you "sound black".


Point taken.
 
2009-10-08 08:30:08 PM
didact: The hard worker has chosen to have more kids. Yet he/she does not improve on the amount of time spent per child over what his/her parents did. This is the perpetuation of the failure, not the income level or the long hours!

What I'm saying is that the poor often make decisions that wind up in having early children. They then must work very hard to raise these kids. This harder work with longer hours means they have less time to spend reading to their children.
 
2009-10-08 08:38:49 PM
bartink: didact: The hard worker has chosen to have more kids. Yet he/she does not improve on the amount of time spent per child over what his/her parents did. This is the perpetuation of the failure, not the income level or the long hours!

What I'm saying is that the poor often make decisions that wind up in having early children. They then must work very hard to raise these kids. This harder work with longer hours means they have less time to spend reading to their children.


You are absolutely right. And I totally agree that this does happen. But it's not someone else's fault.

And yes, it is true that it's likely that these children will repeat the ways of their parent(s). But that also is not someone else's fault.

When a parent (or two!?) decide to break the cycle: THAT is when the success comes.
 
2009-10-08 08:41:09 PM
didact: You are absolutely right. And I totally agree that this does happen. But it's not someone else's fault.

And yes, it is true that it's likely that these children will repeat the ways of their parent(s). But that also is not someone else's fault.

When a parent (or two!?) decide to break the cycle: THAT is when the success comes.


I agree. But the reason that African-Americans are so overwhelmingly poor and therefore act like the poor usually does is the legacy of slavery and discrimination.

Their ancestors didn't decide that for themselves. And its continued for generations.
 
2009-10-08 09:06:50 PM
bartink: didact: You are absolutely right. And I totally agree that this does happen. But it's not someone else's fault.

And yes, it is true that it's likely that these children will repeat the ways of their parent(s). But that also is not someone else's fault.

When a parent (or two!?) decide to break the cycle: THAT is when the success comes.

I agree. But the reason that African-Americans are so overwhelmingly poor and therefore act like the poor usually does is the legacy of slavery and discrimination.

Their ancestors didn't decide that for themselves. And its continued for generations.


I think its a very simplified explanation that ignores a lot of the historical points of how we got here from the 1960's and does little to help elucidate the problems we now have. I agree with you that education is the only way forward now.
 
2009-10-08 09:08:42 PM
Wait, so she was born in Kenya like her husband?
 
2009-10-08 09:10:44 PM
hudef, wet_dream & Sticky Hands:


i100.photobucket.com

I hope you all DIAF.

sacks of crap, the lot of ya.
 
2009-10-08 09:18:48 PM
MonkeyAngst: whistleridge: NikolaiFarkoff: Everyone raves about her arms, but nobody really wants to put in the 400 years of hard labor to get them. Typical Americans.

More like 200 years. But hey, what're 2 centuries more or less?

Split the difference. The article you link states that slaves were brought to America as early as the 1560s, and of course slavery was outlawed in 1863. So... three hundred.


Slavery was effectively a way of life for many African-Americans up until WWII (new window).

400 years will do nicely, thanks.
 
2009-10-08 09:24:20 PM
I am of Native American and African blood.

/I want reparations
//and a Casino
 
2009-10-08 09:30:05 PM
Hung Like A Tic-Tac: hudef, wet_dream & Sticky Hands:

I hope you all DIAF.

sacks of crap, the lot of ya.


www.w3bbo.com
 
2009-10-08 09:30:31 PM
I guess submitter wanted to allege that this study was a waste of time, given that we could be certain that some of her ancestors were slaves. I think it's pretty amazing they were able to track her ancestry that far back and be fairly confident of the results.
 
2009-10-08 09:45:10 PM
hudef: Hung Like A Tic-Tac: hudef, wet_dream & Sticky Hands:

I hope you all DIAF.

sacks of crap, the lot of ya.


hehehehehe

see how easy it is to get their heads to: forumuploads.animutationportal.com
 
2009-10-08 09:49:37 PM
wet_dream: hudef: Hung Like A Tic-Tac: hudef, wet_dream & Sticky Hands:

I hope you all DIAF.

sacks of crap, the lot of ya.

hehehehehe

see how easy it is to get their heads to:


look at the proud racist! you're a role model to children everywhere. just ask hudef. maybe later you can both enjoy a good lynchin'.

asshats
 
2009-10-08 09:52:27 PM
relcec:
I agree. But the reason that African-Americans are so overwhelmingly poor and therefore act like the poor usually does is the legacy of slavery and discrimination.


You see, that's the part of the argument that I don't buy. That's the point I'm trying to make. I do not believe that statement. We cannot let the current or last generation of black americans use this excuse. Sure - SOME black americans were at a disadvantage because their parents were not well educated. But I do NOT agree that the current generation of black parents should use this as an excuse when their children enter school unprepared, or worse yet, stay in school and not work hard to succeed.

My partner for the last 4 years was a 7th grade language arts teacher in a medium sized town in the southeast. The problems she encounters while trying to educate 7th grade black students are NOT a product of slavery. They are a product of absent parents, peer pressure NOT to achieve, lack of discipline and self proclaimed entitlement.

But I must admit at this point that we've kinda gotten off topic and are trying to bite off more than we can chew in one thread debating the ancestry of our First Lady.

But at least we have the same goal in mind. Thanks for the (not heated!) debate. I'm out for the night.
 
2009-10-08 09:58:48 PM
I love how everyone conveniently forgets Jim Crow laws, sharecropping as indentured servitude, lynching and many other racial evils that went on after slavery was formally abolished.

The civil rights movement is not that far distant, people ...
 
2009-10-08 10:08:33 PM
Egalitarian: I love how everyone conveniently forgets Jim Crow laws, sharecropping as indentured servitude, lynching, BET and many other racial evils that went on after slavery was formally abolished.
 
2009-10-08 10:08:58 PM
Hung Like A Tic-Tac: wet_dream: hudef: Hung Like A Tic-Tac: hudef, wet_dream & Sticky Hands:

I hope you all DIAF.

sacks of crap, the lot of ya.

hehehehehe

see how easy it is to get their heads to:

look at the proud racist! you're a role model to children everywhere. just ask hudef. maybe later you can both enjoy a good lynchin'.

asshats


www.iamanangelchaser.com

There, feel better???

\anyone got some sun block, SPF 5000???
 
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