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2009-10-06 12:27:24 PM
Didn't Bush already do that?
 
2009-10-06 12:28:44 PM
www.mojoimage.com


Let's all pitch in.
 
2009-10-06 12:49:55 PM
Kome:

Didn't Bush Nagin already do that?

happycarpenter.blogs.com

/ FTFY
 
2009-10-06 12:54:45 PM
poop thread?

alien-earth.org
 
2009-10-06 02:09:37 PM
As one of these architects, I'm proud to announce that I've crafted a really great upper decker for all to gaze upon in awe. You can see it in the men's room on the 3rd floor of Bloomingdale's.
 
2009-10-06 02:29:51 PM
So you end up with a house that is full of toxic mold but other than that its all ok... sounds great to me.
 
2009-10-06 02:36:24 PM
How would the utility hookups work? Unless you make them flexible (and have some way to seal up the water and sewer pipes) you're asking for trouble...
 
2009-10-06 02:41:31 PM
MasterThief: How would the utility hookups work? Unless you make them flexible (and have some way to seal up the water and sewer pipes) you're asking for trouble...

www.khulsey.com

Works for zillions of RVs. Now, in a residential environment, I doubt that would be doable, but I'm sure they thought of that. I would think maybe some kind of articulated PVC hinge or something similar would work.
 
2009-10-06 02:49:21 PM
I just wish they'd fill it in with concrete.
 
2009-10-06 04:03:29 PM
PacManDreaming:
I just wish they'd fill it in with concrete.

Amen!
 
2009-10-06 04:04:41 PM
 
2009-10-06 04:04:44 PM
I've been playing that game over at [adult swim]. It's pretty fun, but it gets repetitive.
 
2009-10-06 04:04:47 PM
Architects want to fill New Orleans' Lower Ninth Ward with floaters

I thought it already was full of "floaters".
www.foxnews.com
 
2009-10-06 04:05:52 PM
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How about that sh*t?
 
2009-10-06 04:06:09 PM
So the house is just a beached barge until the levees break again?

They should just turn New Orleans into Venice, but with air boats instead of gondolas.
 
2009-10-06 04:06:52 PM
Just a question....

Why do you want to live below sea level on a coastline? This seems like a recipe for.... um, disaster.

It's not that the levies failed. That was going to happen eventually anyway. It's that some dumbasses were living their lives in a fishbowl with fragile walls, thinking everything was peachy.

So to you...
PacManDreaming: I just wish they'd fill it in with concrete.

THIS
 
2009-10-06 04:06:59 PM
"How do you keep a sense of community and the continuity of the neighborhood, and at the same time deal with this very extreme condition of the flooding?"

Don't build neighborhoods in floodplains?
 
2009-10-06 04:07:27 PM
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How about that sh*t?


And yet you can get your fark on.
 
2009-10-06 04:07:30 PM
Not Available: poop thread?

this.shiat.

again.
 
2009-10-06 04:07:51 PM
these'd be a good idea all along the Mississippi and any other river prone to flooding.
 
2009-10-06 04:08:07 PM
FTFA:

And it's thought about as a seat belt. I mean, hopefully it never gets used. But when it gets used, it's important.

Uh, I use a seat belt every day ...
 
2009-10-06 04:08:10 PM
atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com

It's all Katrina's Fault!
 
2009-10-06 04:08:18 PM
img5.imageshack.us

They all float down here.
 
2009-10-06 04:08:30 PM
Flood waters rise, house floats up guide posts. High Winds push the house until the guide posts bend/break until the house breaks free and crashes into other houses and sinks.

This is just plane old fashion stupid! Just open the frickin levees and turn this area into wetlands and be dpne with it already.
 
2009-10-06 04:08:38 PM
gopher321: Let's all pitch in.

it's a baby ruth chocolate city
 
2009-10-06 04:09:09 PM
tehbeermang: Pair-o-Dice: Site blocked. www.npr.org is not allowed on this network.
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How about that sh*t?

And yet you can get your fark on.


Shhhhhh, our IT guys might hear you.

/Isn't that just something?
 
2009-10-06 04:09:25 PM
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2009-10-06 04:09:55 PM
Float houses look worse than the shacks that they are replacing.

/I agree, just fill the ninth ward with concrete and be done with it.
 
2009-10-06 04:10:10 PM
wet_dream: Flood waters rise, house floats up guide posts. High Winds push the house until the guide posts bend/break until the house breaks free and crashes into other houses and sinks.

This is just plane old fashion stupid! Just open the frickin levees and turn this area into wetlands and be dpne with it already.


safety strap the house down with cables to a concrete foundation

of course if the water goes too high the house floods anyway
 
2009-10-06 04:10:15 PM
MasterThief: How would the utility hookups work? Unless you make them flexible (and have some way to seal up the water and sewer pipes) you're asking for trouble...

Heard this yesterday evening. The audio talks about disconnects and such. And none of this is really new. I used to work for a floating dock manufacturer and we did the same thing for a small 2 story bar/restaurant on a floating dock. It was much larger though than one of these houses.
 
2009-10-06 04:12:04 PM
wet_dream: Flood waters rise, house floats up guide posts. High Winds push the house until the guide posts bend/break until the house breaks free and crashes into other houses and sinks.

This is just plane old fashion stupid! Just open the frickin levees and turn this area into wetlands and be dpne with it already.


lets also burn down california, demolish the tornado belt, and flood all coastal cities. afterall, if it's prone to any sort of disaster, it's not worth living there.
 
2009-10-06 04:12:22 PM
wet_dream: Flood waters rise, house floats up guide posts. High Winds push the house until the guide posts bend/break until the house breaks free and crashes into other houses and sinks.

This is just plane old fashion stupid! Just open the frickin levees and turn this area into wetlands and be dpne with it already.


Why don't we just move the Gulf of Mexico?

/yeah, I know. That sounds as stupid as floating houses
 
2009-10-06 04:12:32 PM
NPR Article:
The Make It Right Foundation will unveil a house Tuesday in New Orleans' Lower Ninth Ward, which was largely wiped away by floodwaters after Hurricane Katrina. The house is different from others in the neighborhood that were rebuilt after the hurricane: It floats.

The house is the brainchild of Morphosis Architects and its founder, Thom Mayne, winner of the prestigious Pritzker Architecture Prize.

"We rethought the idea of a house in terms of the potential conditions of the flooding that took place in Katrina," Mayne tells Melissa Block.

He says the designers gave the building a chassis, made it out of polystyrene foam and covered it with glass-reinforced concrete.

"What does that do? It produces a raft; it floats," Mayne says. "And it's thought about as a seat belt. I mean, hopefully it never gets used. But when it gets used, it's important."

The house is anchored to the ground by two vertical guideposts. At times of flooding, the house moves up the guideposts - up to 12 feet - to prevent it from drifting.

Although there has been no opportunity to test the house in real flood conditions, Mayne says, he worked with structural engineers to develop the prototype.

"We did extensive computer simulations, and we modeled this house for hurricane flooding conditions" similar to Katrina and its aftermath, he says.

Mayne says that when he built the house for the Make It Right Foundation, he wanted a structure that both blended in and could handle severe floodwaters.

"It was a really interesting problem," he says. "How do you keep a sense of community and the continuity of the neighborhood, and at the same time deal with this very extreme condition of the flooding?"
 
2009-10-06 04:12:39 PM
Sin_City_Superhero: Architects want to fill New Orleans' Lower Ninth Ward with floaters

I thought it already was full of "floaters".


I never tire of the fact that he has a bottle of beer in his back pocket ...
 
2009-10-06 04:12:53 PM
And it's attractive and affordable too right!?
RTA,

Oh wow. Just....wow. It's an ugly trailer home with a bunch of extraneous bullshiat tacked on the outside that will break off in a strong wind, or in this case, when a big wave hits it. No mention of cost anywhere. I'm guessing that's a $100k upgrade, easy. I've got a cheaper solution, it's called move the fark out of that shiathole.
 
2009-10-06 04:13:06 PM
medius: gopher321: Let's all pitch in.

it's a baby ruth chocolate city


jasonjeffrey.files.wordpress.com
 
2009-10-06 04:13:16 PM
Dan09: Just a question....

Why do you want to live below sea level on a coastline? This seems like a recipe for.... um, disaster.

It's not that the levies failed. That was going to happen eventually anyway. It's that some dumbasses were living their lives in a fishbowl with fragile walls, thinking everything was peachy.

THIS.

i got SOOO tired of watching the news and hearing "what went wrong?" ill tell you what went wrong, it was a farkin HURRICANE!
 
2009-10-06 04:14:17 PM
New Ambassador to New Orleans:

www.varianjohnson.com
 
2009-10-06 04:14:22 PM
Couldn't they just, y'know, build the houses on pilings like an ocean pier, rather than concrete slabs? Figure out where the water would be if the levees broke, then make it so that the habitable portion of the house has to be built above that. You could use the area under the houses for garages or storage or whatever.

That seems like a much less expensive way to do it than floating houses, and they wouldn't need to develop any new technology to do it.
 
2009-10-06 04:14:39 PM
California learned the hard way that houses ought to be designed with earthquake reinforcements. Looks like Louisiana is learning a similar lesson.
 
2009-10-06 04:15:02 PM
MasterThief: How would the utility hookups work? Unless you make them flexible (and have some way to seal up the water and sewer pipes) you're asking for trouble...

Break away.

After the flood you have a plumber reconnect the utilities. The city will have shut off the water anyway and the sewer will of course be full of flood water.
 
2009-10-06 04:15:04 PM
Now n'awlins will be filled with mini titanics.
 
2009-10-06 04:15:33 PM
MasterThief: How would the utility hookups work? Unless you make them flexible (and have some way to seal up the water and sewer pipes) you're asking for trouble...

The only real problem I see here is if the pipes were to somehow tie the house down to the ground, completely or partially. Floodwaters will be contaminated by the sewer system anyway because of drains and such, so while sealing off the pipes might be good for the people inside the house it would do little for the surrounding environment..

I would, however, use a breakaway design for the utility hookup: something that could be replaced relatively easily if the house were to need to float for whatever reason. If that can be sealed off automatically in the event of a break, then so much the better.
 
2009-10-06 04:15:38 PM
The "Make it Right Foundation"? Isn't there a guy that already has that slogan?

media.canada.com

Unamused with copyright shenanigans
 
2009-10-06 04:16:14 PM
DON.MAC: So you end up with a house that is full of toxic mold but other than that its all ok... sounds great to me.

Toxic mold only grows when the house gets flooded... which it won't because it floats.

It's called logic, please familiarize yourself with it.
 
2009-10-06 04:16:22 PM
One of my client's floating buildings was found 2 miles inland. Now _that_ would be a ride in one of these little houses!
 
2009-10-06 04:16:27 PM
Freeside:
lets also burn down california, demolish the tornado belt, and flood all coastal cities. afterall, if it's prone to any sort of disaster, it's not worth living there.

We won't have to burn down California. When the Big One finally hits, that baby's going down into the ocean.
 
2009-10-06 04:16:58 PM
C'mon architects...you never watched the Jetson's?
ndn3.newsweek.com
 
2009-10-06 04:17:29 PM
PacManDreaming: I just wish they'd fill it in with concrete.

Dirt is cheaper.

Seriously if you just started hauling in fill dirt you could lay new utilities on the surface and layer them in with the fill, then compact the top and poof, new upper ninth ward with a 30' elevation over sea level. You wouldnt even have to clean it up first just put a layer of clay over the existing crap after you bulldoze them.
 
2009-10-06 04:21:07 PM
Dan09: Why do you want to live below sea level on a coastline? This seems like a recipe for.... um, disaster.

The Dutch want a word with you...
 
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