You mean " comme la peste", right Subby?

Hey, it's good advice. Who the hell wants to go to Quebec anyways?

40below
OlafTheBent: Maybe Quebec and Texas should go out on a date

Can you imagine the offspring?

That would be Louisiana.

OlafTheBent
*golf clap*

Well played good chap

Thank you.

Rusty Shackleford
"it is proposed that any future citizenship in a separate Quebec be based on French language requirements, and that people would have to pass a French proficiency test to merit full citizenship."

So they don't even want their fellow Quebecois to be citizens?

The Quebecois are whinging and complaining again? It must be Tuesday.

They've got great hookers in Montreal.

Rusty Shackleford: Ahh, Quebec. Hating royals, anglos and anyone who isn't "pure laine" for three centuries.



"On October 18, 2007, Pauline Marois, leader of the Parti Québécois submitted a Private Member's Bill in the National Assembly (Bill-195: Quebec Identity Act) in which it is proposed that any future citizenship in a separate Quebec be based on French language requirements, and that people would have to pass a French proficiency test to merit full citizenship. Those who have been given Canadian citizenship but do not pass a French proficiency test would have certain rights withheld; for example, they would be barred from running for municipal or provincial elections."

Scary stuff in this day and age. They are like the French-Canadian KKK but with afluence. Our KKK still exists but their only function seems to be to march in parades and get laughed at.

40below: OlafTheBent: Maybe Quebec and Texas should go out on a date

Can you imagine the offspring? I mean neither one speaks comprehensible English, they're both given to wearing ludicrous headgear and they both nurse a superiority complex intermingled with hundreds of years of perceived grievances, and you're suggesting they mate?

The only good thing about it is one of them knows good food. Texas could learn a lot from Quebec that way.

But you know all Texas would pick up on is poutine. And the idea of a Southwest Poutine gives me the shudders.

El_Swino: The Quebecois are whinging and complaining again? It must be Tuesday.

Or any other day ending in y

Although they are correct in not wanting the world's most expensive welfare cases coming over for avisit

friendinpa: 40below
OlafTheBent: Maybe Quebec and Texas should go out on a date

Can you imagine the offspring?

That would be Louisiana.

Thread winner.

ooooo, he released a newsletter!

I agree, the Prince should treat Quebec like the plague. He should pile all of them up, and set them on fire...

Oh dear lord, this shiat again.

Hey, my province voted to be part of Canada. Suck it Quebec.

Hey Quebec! You lost to the Brits. Get over it.

Reaperman: Hey Quebec! You lost to the Brits. Get over it.

Thankfully, the opinions of a few loudmouthed nationalists != the opinions of all Quebecers.

As always, the vocal annoying majority gets more headlines than the silent majority.

I wonder if French Canadians really are as arrogant as they come across.

I mean do they realize they are french.....and canadian?

No YOU'RE a Towel: Hey, it's good advice. Who the hell wants to go to Quebec anyways?

I totally agree for all of Quebec except Montreal.

SMOKED MEAT AND EASY WOMEN YOU FOOL!
I'm fat and ugly and they sucked my dick until I thought it might be damaged.

Vive le Quebec Libre!


/gotta love Charles Da-G

WorldCitizen: Get over it, Quebec. Had the British not beaten you, the French would have just sold you off like they did Louisiana anyway.

They did.

First ships into the Harbors the next spring really determined the victors. France didn't send any.

PersistantRash: No YOU'RE a Towel: Hey, it's good advice. Who the hell wants to go to Quebec anyways?

I totally agree for all of Quebec except Montreal.

SMOKED MEAT AND EASY WOMEN YOU FOOL!
I'm fat and ugly and they sucked my dick until I thought it might be damaged.

While I was GORGED on fine meats and cheeses I should add. For just a short time I glimpsed the life of a French aristocrat. But of course, I would never live there because every single French man is a total douchebag. Which is prolly why I get on with their women so well. I hear St.Johns is the new place to get laid easily in Canada though I'm certainly not 'a player' by any means. (Imagine Micheal Moore, but... no thats about me.)

Qubek can fark OFF, but they have to leave Montreal with us and take Manitoba with them.

flyingmonkeysreign: Oh dear lord, this shiat again.

Hey, my province voted to be part of Canada. Suck it Quebec.



Have you told that to these guys yet?

\When I went to St John's last year I had to ask what the heck that flag was
\\Imagine my surprise.

friendinpa: 40below
OlafTheBent: Maybe Quebec and Texas should go out on a date

Can you imagine the offspring?

That would be Louisiana.

Britney, is that you?

This nonsense has got to stop. I moved to Montreal a year or so ago (ignore my handle, I really should change that) and I have gotten a snootful of attitude here and there, been told to go back to where I came from, accused of stealing a job from a "real" Quebecker, etc., but I've also found that this crap embarrasses most ordinary Quebeckers and does nothing to help their cause. For example, I'm actually very sympathetic to the Quebec issue. Not that I want them to separate, but I think they do have a distinct culture that's worth preserving because it adds a lot to our country. But when you get douchebags like this guy going on like this, it's no wonder that the rest of the country looks on and says "Well, fark you too."

Someone should explain to these people that being pro-Quebec is not the same thing as being anti-Anglo. Or at least it doesn't have to be.

PersistantRash: PersistantRash: No YOU'RE a Towel: Hey, it's good advice. Who the hell wants to go to Quebec anyways?

I totally agree for all of Quebec except Montreal.

SMOKED MEAT AND EASY WOMEN YOU FOOL!
I'm fat and ugly and they sucked my dick until I thought it might be damaged.

While I was GORGED on fine meats and cheeses I should add. For just a short time I glimpsed the life of a French aristocrat. But of course, I would never live there because every single French man is a total douchebag. Which is prolly why I get on with their women so well. I hear St.Johns is the new place to get laid easily in Canada though I'm certainly not 'a player' by any means. (Imagine Micheal Moore, but... no thats about me.)

Qubek can fark OFF, but they have to leave Montreal with us and take Manitoba with them.

As a guy with a girlfriend from St. John's, Newfoundland.... THIS.

As she puts it, "Us girls from Newfoundland are great in bed because there's nothing to do in Newfoundland but drink, shop, and fark."

cfletch13: As she puts it, "Us girls from Newfoundland are great in bed because there's nothing to do in Newfoundland but drink, shop, and fark."

...but they all smell like cod.

docmattic: cfletch13: As she puts it, "Us girls from Newfoundland are great in bed because there's nothing to do in Newfoundland but drink, shop, and fark."

...but they all smell like cod.

Only the Baymen.

While I'm no separatist, I still resent the fact that I'm a subject to the Queen and soon-to-be-subject to this dumbass.

Also, as is the norm on Fark, the hatred displayed towards Quebeckers in this thread is disgusting. We love you too, guys.

As an outsider, this whole debate intrigues me.

Can someone explain what the crux of Quebec's liberation movement is? Is it anti-monarchist only, or is it a matter of economics as well?

From the Canadian side, why do you wish to not let Quebec go? Is it also merely an economic thing or is there a thread of nationalism there as well?

People have to be told to stay away from Quebec?

/likes Montreal
//treat it like West Berlin during the Cold War and let the rest hang.

Pope_of_Chilitown: As an outsider, this whole debate intrigues me.

Can someone explain what the crux of Quebec's liberation movement is? Is it anti-monarchist only, or is it a matter of economics as well?

From the Canadian side, why do you wish to not let Quebec go? Is it also merely an economic thing or is there a thread of nationalism there as well?

Answers:

(a) Quebec was conquered about 250 year ago by the English, and the french-speaking locals were (in their view) mistreated by the english-speaking overlords until about the 1960s. The french-speaking locals feel that their c400-year-old culture is being slowly overwhelmed and extinguished by the rest of North America. The separatists feel that becoming a separate country will save their culture.

(b) Non-separatists Canadians can't let Quebec go... as Canada couldn't survive as a viable nation-state without Quebec.

So, basically, the separatist movement is being used by Quebecers, in their view, to exert leverage on the Canadian government to help preserve french-speaking Quebec culture, because the non-french-speaking Canadians have no choice but to meet them half-way... or else resign themselves to annexation as the 51st through 61st states.

Glad that my grandfather moved from there. Funny part was my dad being stationed at Ft Drum, so I was able to visit. Actually the funny part was the 10th Mountain Division moving to Ft Drum due to Quebec acting crazy.

Pope_of_Chilitown: Can someone explain what the crux of Quebec's liberation movement is? Is it anti-monarchist only, or is it a matter of economics as well?

I think its a kind of nationalist-xenophobic-egoistic-historical-butthurt.
MAny quebec independentists invoke identity recognition issues which is some really tennuous Charles Taylor type philosophical sophism which sounds good but really is about speculative notions of the nature, source and moral requirements of identity.

Most people who are into this emotional movement are far too small minded to understand let alone be motivated by any economic impetus.

The rest of Canada's interest is certainly to keep the extremely large and rich territory of the province of Quebec. And economics definitely plays a role. Any Cananian nationalism is mostly keen on giving Quebec the boot since again pragmatism and economic concerns take a back seat to ego and emotion.

/My $0.02

All the people who don't want to come here because of ignorent swinedogs like seperatists: We don't want your milquetoast, culture-less, flavourless selves anyways. Stay at home, sip your Tim Hortons, eat your KD and leave the fine dining and good coffee to those who can handle it.

/I love all of Canada
//even the middle bit between Mtl and Van!
///AND I love KD and Tim's, I'm just proud of being somewhere where they know better

Pope_of_Chilitown: As an outsider, this whole debate intrigues me.

Can someone explain what the crux of Quebec's liberation movement is? Is it anti-monarchist only, or is it a matter of economics as well?

From the Canadian side, why do you wish to not let Quebec go? Is it also merely an economic thing or is there a thread of nationalism there as well?

Most of the separatists would rather Quebec become apart of the US or just magically become its own country without any transitional problems. They think our money will be good, they think people won't move the fark away, they think they can make learning a language mandatory and speaking another illegal. They are dead farking wrong. We need Canada as much, maybe a bit more than they need Quebec. Smart people realize that there is no victory to be had if there is an antagonistic relationship between Quebec and the rest of Canada. Living in Montreal, you don't see too much anti-Canada sentiment, I wonder how it is in small town Quebec and if it is a widespread, universal statement as soon as you leave big cities...

We got our problems, but generally, the positives FAR outweigh the negatives you encounter living here.