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(Google)   100 years to the day, the Titanic Memorial Cruise will depart from Southampton England and retrace the same Trans-Atlantic route as taken by the ill-fated ship. Well, except for that one lengthy stopover   (google.com) divider line 180
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2009-10-06 10:27:09 AM
yakmans_dad: dittybopper: yakmans_dad: Titanic was a big boat. Modern liners are like floating cities.

Pretty much the same sizes, though. Titanic displaced 46,328 GRT, MS Empress displaces 48,563 GRT.

Plus, in the days before transoceanic jet travel, liners were the *ONLY* way to travel between continents, and thus had to accommodate third class passengers. Today, people of modest means traveling across the ocean would buy a plane ticket instead. Modern vacation cruise liners don't have to worry about transporting people from A to B, they just need to keep the passengers entertained.

Most of the new Princess Cruise line ships are twice that. (I pick that line from experience. Maybe others are even bigger.)



No shiat - I remember standing watch on the bridge of an aircraft carrier and looking *up* at a cruise liner as it passed by on its way into port.
 
2009-10-06 10:28:51 AM
FarkedOver: Re the new sailing - first thing that came to mind was Professor Farnsworth saying "this can only end badly."

or Professor Farnsworth saying "Good news everyone, i've bought you all 3rd class fares to ride on the new titanic!"


Kif: (ugh)

Nightsweat: But what if there was -what?- an air pocket? Huh? What does that do? And what if some people survived in the air pocket? Hey look - it's Leo!

Bam! Titanic II.


Wow...that bit went on twice as long as it really should have. It looked like imrpov, but not funny improv.

/mebbe it's me
 
2009-10-06 10:33:27 AM
They give the price for an inside cabin, but how much is steerage class going to cost? Or are they not going to be that realistic?
 
2009-10-06 10:33:53 AM
ScottRiqui: yakmans_dad: dittybopper: yakmans_dad: Titanic was a big boat. Modern liners are like floating cities.

Pretty much the same sizes, though. Titanic displaced 46,328 GRT, MS Empress displaces 48,563 GRT.

Plus, in the days before transoceanic jet travel, liners were the *ONLY* way to travel between continents, and thus had to accommodate third class passengers. Today, people of modest means traveling across the ocean would buy a plane ticket instead. Modern vacation cruise liners don't have to worry about transporting people from A to B, they just need to keep the passengers entertained.

Most of the new Princess Cruise line ships are twice that. (I pick that line from experience. Maybe others are even bigger.)


No shiat - I remember standing watch on the bridge of an aircraft carrier and looking *up* at a cruise liner as it passed by on its way into port.



That would have been an awesome picture.
 
2009-10-06 10:34:55 AM
i243.photobucket.com
 
2009-10-06 10:36:22 AM
....A few years ago I got what was pretty much a private tour of the Titanic exhibit that was going thru several cities, and I was told that quite probably by 2022 there won't be anything left recognizable as an ocean liner due to the continuing disintegration of the hull. What should be done is one last trip to the wreck, salvage one of the anchors (difficult but doable) and bring it to NYC as a memorial and say, "All right, it's over, it's done." Then off-limits the wreck forever.

/My $.02
//BTW, approves of chunky harlots
 
2009-10-06 10:38:10 AM
dittybopper: ObscureNameHere: Someone better let Cape Race know this is happening so they can have a wireless operator standing by for the CQD.

I'll bring my key...



/Not my actual key, but one identical to it.


I'm getting tired of seeing this same BS over and over! When are you finally going to take a picture of your own key?!?!

:)
 
2009-10-06 10:38:13 AM
JaCiNto: They give the price for an inside cabin, but how much is steerage class going to cost? Or are they not going to be that realistic?

I don't think there's a steerage class on modern cruise ships. Catch-as-catch-can sleeping arrangements for a week? In the modern world?

Inside cabins ARE modern steerage.

We were a step up from that: our cabin view was cut off from the sea by one of the few lifeboats. We saved a couple hundred bucks on the cruise and inside cabins were a couple hundred bucks cheaper than ours.
 
2009-10-06 10:38:29 AM
...is it really bad that I'm considering this as a honeymoon surprise?
 
2009-10-06 10:40:48 AM
dittybopper: ObscureNameHere: Someone better let Cape Race know this is happening so they can have a wireless operator standing by for the CQD.

I'll bring my key...
/Not my actual key, but one identical to it.


Do you also have one of those 'half-visor' hats? And striped shirt with those armbands on the sleeves for no apparent reason? It is also important to be only in black-and-white for the true 'historic photo' look.
 
2009-10-06 10:43:03 AM
"Chunky Harlots" would be a sweet band name.
 
2009-10-06 10:48:05 AM
Ninja Wicked: "Chunky Harlots" would be a sweet band name.

They could double bill with what I thought was a great band name from one of the PETA/veggie vs. Meat threads: 'Tasty Murder'

"Appearing LIVE at the Gravel Pit this Sunday SUNDAY SUNDAY!
Are you ready for some Tasty Murder? You know you are!
Special guest opening act are (whoo-hooo!) The Chunky Harlots!
Tickets $10 in advance, $15 at the door. Show starts at 9:00 pm."
 
2009-10-06 10:49:52 AM
Ninja Wicked: "Chunky Harlots" would be a sweet band name.

Especially since "The Go Gos" is taken.
 
2009-10-06 10:52:09 AM
eddyatwork: I hated the movie Titanic. Rose had the chance to get on a lifeboat three times and turned them down. Instead she was on a door or something and she says "I'll never let you go" until he dies and then it's glub glub glub.

If you want to see a good movie about the Titanic, watch the movie from 1953 called "A Night to Remember" which is far superior.


came in for this, leaving satisfied.

Bartleby the Scrivener: Titanic II: Aquatic Boogaloo

now that right there is comedy GOLD!!
 
2009-10-06 10:52:48 AM
towatchoverme: Ninja Wicked: "Chunky Harlots" would be a sweet band name.

Especially since "The Go Gos" is taken.


"The Help" is my new favorite band name. I saw a woman wearing the T-shirt and got the giggles.
 
2009-10-06 10:56:44 AM
trappedspirit: dittybopper: ObscureNameHere: Someone better let Cape Race know this is happening so they can have a wireless operator standing by for the CQD.

I'll bring my key...



/Not my actual key, but one identical to it.

I'm getting tired of seeing this same BS over and over! When are you finally going to take a picture of your own key?!?!

:)


OK, here is a picture where you can see part of it, along with some of the radio that it's attached to:

img183.imageshack.us
 
2009-10-06 10:58:07 AM
Latinwolf: Add Leonardo DiCaprio, maybe this time he doesn't survive

was that before or after he sunk unconscious into the cold atlantic?

/spoiler
 
2009-10-06 10:58:21 AM
12.media.tumblr.com

Must I do everything?!

/Link hotter than a Winslet
 
2009-10-06 10:58:33 AM
ObscureNameHere: dittybopper: ObscureNameHere: Someone better let Cape Race know this is happening so they can have a wireless operator standing by for the CQD.

I'll bring my key...
/Not my actual key, but one identical to it.

Do you also have one of those 'half-visor' hats? And striped shirt with those armbands on the sleeves for no apparent reason? It is also important to be only in black-and-white for the true 'historic photo' look.


Nah. That's only for landline telegraphers. I'm a radiotelegrapher.
 
2009-10-06 10:58:52 AM
Uff_Da

Radar Operator: Colonel, you better have a look at this radar.
Colonel: What is it, son?
Radar Operator: I don't know, sir, but it looks like a giant...
Jet Pilot: Dick. Dick, take a look out of starboard.
Co-Pilot: Oh my God, it looks like a huge...
Bird-Watching Woman: Pecker.
Bird-Watching Man: [raising binoculars] Ooh, Where?
Bird-Watching Woman: Over there. What sort of bird is that? Wait, it's not a woodpecker, it looks like someone's...
Army Sergeant: Privates. We have reports of an unidentified flying object. It has a long, smooth shaft, complete with...
Baseball Umpire: Two balls.
[looking up from game]
Baseball Umpire: What is that. It looks just like an enormous...
Chinese Teacher: Wang. pay attention.
Wang: I was distracted by that giant flying...
Musician: Willie.
Willie: Yeah?
Musician: What's that?
Willie: [squints] Well, that looks like a huge...
Colonel: Johnson.
Radar Operator: Yes, sir?
Colonel: Get on the horn to British Intelligence and let them know about this.
 
db2
2009-10-06 10:59:07 AM
img1.fark.net

Anybody taking bets?
 
2009-10-06 10:59:20 AM
ssssmashing: Must I do everything?!

/Link hotter than a Winslet


I can see the Kestrel settings.
 
2009-10-06 11:02:18 AM
Cambo_: IXI Jim IXI:

I'm sure it was eerily similar to anyone on the iceberg...

Just keep thinking that, sheeple! An impact with an ocean liner could never have caused so much chipping of the iceberg. There had to be a controlled demolition somewhere below the waterline. But you can just go on believing the malicious coverup by a government dedicated to warming the planet by destroying icebergs!


You forgot the thermite residue found on the iceberg after the ship sank.
 
2009-10-06 11:03:33 AM
tothekor: wage0048: Cambo_: Not quite poor design. The Titanic was actually a triumph of engineering-the watertight compartments were never intended to keep the ship afloat with so many of them flooded. The ship was designed to survive the puncture of two or three at the most. Any more than that and the designers knew she was going down.

It was really a tragedy wrought of overconfidence. The White Star marketing department was a little bit careless in their media relations, and so the public came to believe the ship was unsinkable, which lead to some careless actions on the part of the captain and crew, who really should have known better.

Correct. The ship was designed so that if any four (even the first four or last four) watertight compartments flooded, the remaining boyancy would be enough to keep water from spilling over into the remaining compartments. As it was, the first five compartments flooded. While certain engineering changes could have prevented the ship from sinking given the damage sustained, nothing can change the fact that the damage was sustained as a direct result of the ship's Captain and officers ignoring multiple warnings of ice along their path, their desire to set a speed record, and overconfidence on the part of the officers & crew.

One design change that might have prevented the sinking would be if the tops of the watertight compartments were sealable as well, but this would have severely limited the ability to load/unload the cargo compartments as well as the passage of passengers/crew between decks (since it would be prohibitively expensive to build such large doors that could be closed in an emergency).

Another design change that could have proved effective in avoiding the collision would have been to mount an electric motor just behind the ship's prow, connected to a propeller under the water line (open to both sides to aid in steering). As far as I know the concept of such a motor didn't exist yet. If it had, it would have also made steering within a harbor much easier and safer.

It's very simple. If the officer on duty had simply ordered all stop and not reverse the engines and try to turn around it, the ship would have simply drifted head on into the berg, causing far less damage and certainly not flooding enough compartments to sink her.


I've also heard that if they had maintained full steam it might have missed. The rudder was too small and by ordering the reverse engines the ability to turn was greatly reduced. Another interesting idea is that they could have ordered full reverse port side and full ahead starboard and that would have turned the boat. Anyone have any information on either of these?
 
2009-10-06 11:07:08 AM
The cruise will then, if possible and assuming they don't sink, head to Halifax, where passengers can visit three cemeteries where Titanic victims are buried.

Fixed it.
 
2009-10-06 11:09:07 AM
dittybopper:

Nah. That's only for landline telegraphers. I'm a radiotelegrapher.


...Apparently in the Kriegsmarine? I see there's a little bankrupt vulture on your key.

/// :)
 
2009-10-06 11:10:06 AM
pixeled: Latinwolf: Add Leonardo DiCaprio, maybe this time he doesn't survive

was that before or after he sunk unconscious into the cold atlantic?

/spoiler


LOL. Too bad his career didn't go that way.
 
2009-10-06 11:11:08 AM
LindyJohn: I see there's a little bankrupt vulture on your key.

/// :)


He's just glad to see you.
 
2009-10-06 11:11:40 AM
My 9 year old son is facinated with the Titanic and he was asking why they haven't built another one. After explaining that no one would want to sail on a ship named after a horrible disaster, he still didn't get it. He thought it would be cool to sail on a replica Titanic. I thought he was crazy. Guess I was wrong. . .

/at least the ship isn't named the Titanic II or something creepy like that.
//still, that's just weird
 
2009-10-06 11:11:52 AM
Pope Joan:
I've also heard that if they had maintained full steam it might have missed. The rudder was too small and by ordering the reverse engines the ability to turn was greatly reduced. Another interesting idea is that they could have ordered full reverse port side and full ahead starboard and that would have turned the boat. Anyone have any information on either of these?


The rudder was directly in the wash of the propellers, especially the center one. Keeping the center prop going full ahead would have aided the rudder in turning the ship.

Ideally, to turn to the port as quickly as possible, you would throw the rudder hard to port, keep the center prop churning full ahead, as well as the starboard one, and you'd throw the port prop into full reverse.
 
2009-10-06 11:12:38 AM
zootsuit: ...is it really bad that I'm considering this as a honeymoon surprise?

I think it would be pretty cool. You know if it doesn't sink and you die. The real problem I see for you is that you are getting married.

/just kidding got married again earlier this year
//glutton for punishment
 
2009-10-06 11:15:10 AM
Mommy Monster: /at least the ship isn't named the Titanic II or something creepy like that.

Maybe they should name it Poseidon or perhaps Andre Doria.
 
2009-10-06 11:15:54 AM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2009-10-06 11:19:56 AM
LindyJohn: dittybopper:

Nah. That's only for landline telegraphers. I'm a radiotelegrapher.

...Apparently in the Kriegsmarine? I see there's a little bankrupt vulture on your key.

/// :)


It's a whiz-wheel for manual torpedo targeting in Silent Hunter III. You can't really tell, but the wheel itself actually has an Iron Cross in it, not a swastika.

A higher definition picture of it is here, along with an image of the angle solver on the back.

/Kinda explains the 'neck itch' comment, doesn't it?
 
2009-10-06 11:32:11 AM
dittybopper:

/Kinda explains the 'neck itch' comment, doesn't it?

services.windowsmedia.com
Approves.

//LOL that PC games are PC. Swapping out the swastika for an iron cross is kinda the new "fig leaf".
///Sorry to thread-jack... Done now.
////I'm semi-obsessed with the Titanic, but even I find this memorial cruise a little on the morbid side...
 
2009-10-06 11:33:26 AM
NicoFinn: Cool. Are they gonna have other boats standing by to do absolutely nothing just in case something bad happens? Are they gonna lack lifeboats? You know, just for authenticity's sake.

I was kind of wondering about that honestly.

And how many people are actually going to go on the voyage? Will they get a mental health screening first to make sure they don't have suicidal intentions?

/guess I'll just grab some popcorn.
 
2009-10-06 11:38:54 AM
Cambo_: MongtheMerciless:
Woooooo, look who knows so much

I wrote a paper on it last year. I'll be happy to never see an early nineteenth century newspaper again.


Was the media just as awful then too?

/naturally... ;)
 
2009-10-06 11:41:15 AM
LindyJohn: dittybopper:

/Kinda explains the 'neck itch' comment, doesn't it?


Approves.

//LOL that PC games are PC. Swapping out the swastika for an iron cross is kinda the new "fig leaf".


You can get the version with the swastika, if you want. I actually asked the guy who made the image files used to build them to make two versions, because in some countries the swastika is illegal.

The Kreigsmarine angriffscheibe is a user-made device, done by a user over at Subsim.com and isn't a product of UbiSoft. The angle-solver is based on a real WWII KM device, and the circular slide rule side is based on a WWII US sub device.

Enough jackage, though.
 
2009-10-06 11:42:51 AM
dugdug: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 390x259]

img207.imageshack.us

What really happened.
 
2009-10-06 11:44:43 AM
Uh, yeah, have fun being cold and miserable in the North Atlantic during April for $4,000..
 
2009-10-06 11:56:43 AM
Fine, I'll post the picture that you're all waiting for:

www.gossipsauce.com

You're welcome.
 
2009-10-06 11:57:37 AM
Coincidentally, Fred Olsen's parent company Harland and Wolff built the Titanic.
Wouldn't be ironic if this cruise ship sank, too?
 
2009-10-06 12:05:57 PM
Anniversary cruise, AD 3012

images1.wikia.nocookie.netimages3.wikia.nocookie.net


// I can't see anyone else's pics because of our company's filters
// Except for Kate Winslet's hot pic, which got through
 
2009-10-06 12:10:29 PM
I've always wondered what may have been different if they had re-arranged the deck chairs to spell out. "Stop! Iceburg Ahead!"
 
2009-10-06 12:18:53 PM
Dave and the Mission: "Stop! Iceburg Ahead!"

Some yahoo dandy pamphleteer would likely have a nicely drawn charcoal sketch of the scene with a crudely emblazoned "Fail" sign pointing out the minor, yet laughable misspelling of "iceberg".

He would then retire to his chamber and commence with self-congratulations, perhaps tip a demitasse of strong but lightly creamed Earl Grey.
 
2009-10-06 12:32:22 PM
Cambo_: dittybopper:
Plus, in the days before transoceanic jet travel, liners were the *ONLY* way to travel between continents, and thus had to accommodate third class passengers. Today, people of modest means traveling across the ocean would buy a plane ticket instead. Modern vacation cruise liners don't have to worry about transporting people from A to B, they just need to keep the passengers entertained.

I've often wondered if there was some third class transatlantic ferry that could get me to Europe for cheaper than a plane ticket. I'd happily spend a week or so in steerage to save a hundred bucks.


It isn't possible to do a transatlantic (or transpacific) voyage cheaper than a plane. It is possible to do so cheaper than a ship designed for that purpose. Basically, there are a few companies out there that can arrange for you to berth on cargo container ships. The accomodations can be pretty spartan, you eat with the crew, and departure/arrival times will vary, but it is cheaper. You will be limited to whatever random entertainment is on-board, your crew may or may not speak great english (or whatever your main language is), but the food can be pretty awesome based on accounts I have read (its kinda like other similar occupations - your work may suck as a crewmember on board a ship, but generally the food makes up for it).

IIRC, I once calculated out a cost of around $2000.00 to get to Europe from a port somewhere on the eastern seaboard of America (way cheaper than every other method except a plane). The main problem was you didn't know -exactly- when the ship would arrive at the port or when it would leave (plan on an extra week there), nor when it would arrive at your destination (it wasn't a fast trip, that's for certain). Also, you would have to figure out a way to return as well...

It was basically one of those "you do this for an adventure"; not to save money. If I had the ability to take a few months off from my work, travel that way to Europe, then backpack/hike through Europe staying a hostels, etc until I arrived somewhere else (Italy, Greece, Turkey, etc), then flew back...I would do it in a heartbeat. It would take a helluva lot of planning and preparation though...
 
2009-10-06 12:38:02 PM
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Have an ice trip

.
 
2009-10-06 12:43:30 PM
Perhaps a different, softer kind of iceberg would've changed history?

sale.images.woot.com
 
2009-10-06 12:47:51 PM
cr0sh:

IIRC, I once calculated out a cost of around $2000.00 to get to Europe from a port somewhere on the eastern seaboard of America (way cheaper than every other method except a plane).


Plane travel can be very very cheap. We went to Europe a couple of years ago on one of those deals that crop up on travel sites from time to time. 4 days. 4 nights. $400. Plane + hotel.

/Mid-winter.
//Decent hotel.
///Great time was had by all.
 
2009-10-06 12:49:23 PM
I have often wondered why Titanic was probably the one exception to the general rule in movies: If the movie does well at the box office, they will make a sequel.


/Still waiting for "Titanic II: This Time It's Personal"
 
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