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(LA Times)   If Comcast merges with NBC and becomes a part owner of Hulu, a site they hate with the burning heat of a million suns, they'll slap on a charge to view shows so fast your head will spin   (latimes.com) divider line 94
    More: Obvious, Comcast, Hulu, NBC, joint venture, Walt Disney Co., television shows, NBC Universal, Food Network  
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2009-10-05 04:56:48 PM  
Crapcast will screw it up like everything else they touch.
 
2009-10-05 05:07:24 PM  
I would never have watched "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" or "Sons of Anarchy" if it wasn't for Hulu. Now I own the first three seasons of "Sunny" on DVD.
 
2009-10-05 05:10:00 PM  
Hulu sucked as soon as they pulled down the full version of the Big Lebowski. And I will not tolerate commercials.
 
2009-10-05 05:12:29 PM  
Well, they have an option. I can watch it on Hulu and be exposed to their ads and even a few commercials.

Or I can just not watch it/get a torrent.

I haven't had cable since i moved out on my own except when it was provided by the apartment complex. It's too expensive to pay for cable and internet service, and internet service is far more important to me. Hulu isn't a problem, it's a solution for getting people to watch your shows.
 
2009-10-05 05:13:23 PM  
Or wait until it comes out on DVD and get it on Netflix.
 
2009-10-05 05:47:47 PM  
and then they will fade into Bolivia
 
2009-10-05 05:50:38 PM  
That sounds like a good idea. I'd pay to be able to watch the few shows i care about (mostly Family Guy, American Dad and now the Cleveland Show) if it meant a limited subscription or pay per-show. The free model is mostly a dead end and the people who espouse it for music are completely clueless about marketing.
 
2009-10-05 05:53:29 PM  
SockMonkeyHolocaust: That sounds like a good idea. I'd pay to be able to watch the few shows i care about (mostly Family Guy, American Dad and now the Cleveland Show) if it meant a limited subscription or pay per-show. The free model is mostly a dead end and the people who espouse it for music are completely clueless about marketing.

With streaming video though they can easily have adds up around the video itself as well as have the ability to insert commercials before/during the stream. That's a totally different situation than downloading music online.

Especially since their other option is people just download it rather than stream it and then aren't exposed to any ads. It's in their best interest to make it easy for people to stream it online under their controls.
 
2009-10-05 06:24:55 PM  
SockMonkeyHolocaust: That sounds like a good idea. I'd pay to be able to watch the few shows i care about (mostly Family Guy, American Dad and now the Cleveland Show) if it meant a limited subscription or pay per-show. The free model is mostly a dead end and the people who espouse it for music are completely clueless about marketing.

You can already do that. On Amazon. On iTunes.
 
2009-10-05 06:53:30 PM  
Wow.

This is ever so important.

I better worry about this.

Oh, look. An ashtray.
 
2009-10-05 07:46:07 PM  
bunner: Wow.

This is ever so important.

I better worry about this.

Oh, look. An ashtray.


How can you be so cavalier about such a vastly critical issue?

You must focus, and be more proactive on helping us bad together and effect change, before these Comcast Nazis take over all of our...

Aw, lookit the cute little bunny!
Why does he have a pancake on his head, though?
 
2009-10-05 07:49:02 PM  
GurneyHalleck: Hulu sucked as soon as they pulled down the full version of the Big Lebowski. And I will not tolerate commercials.

Umm...so you are in favor of paying a monthly fee.
 
2009-10-05 07:55:09 PM  
Oh no! How will I ever be able to get my tv shows from the internet for free?
 
2009-10-05 07:55:11 PM  
bunner: Wow.

This is ever so important.

I better worry about this.

Oh, look. An ashtray.


You must have clicked on the wrong tab.
 
2009-10-05 07:56:32 PM  
And it would die before we even got dizzy.
 
2009-10-05 07:57:01 PM  
I love Hulu. I don't care about watching TV shows with commercials. It's watching them with the insane VOLUME of commercials and the inconvenience of having to be at my TV at a set time every week. I'm a grad student, sometime I don't have time Monday nights to watch House. I will gladly watch it, with some commercials, when I have time, so Hulu is great for me.

Now they just need to finish up the farking iPhone app.
 
2009-10-05 08:02:13 PM  
Link farked? Can someone post please.
 
2009-10-05 08:03:33 PM  
Thoguh: Or wait until it comes out on DVD and get it on Netflix.

Or find it for free elsewhere on the intertubes.
 
2009-10-05 08:04:35 PM  
I don't know how this deal could possibly be approved by the government...

Oh wait, ya i do, they could give a crap less about cost to the average american. And all this before the Supreme Court gives comcast and other the right to unlimited campaign contributions.

Can't wait.
 
2009-10-05 08:04:55 PM  
RemyDuron: I love Hulu. I don't care about watching TV shows with commercials. It's watching them with the insane VOLUME of commercials and the inconvenience of having to be at my TV at a set time every week. I'm a grad student, sometime I don't have time Monday nights to watch House. I will gladly watch it, with some commercials, when I have time, so Hulu is great for me.

Now they just need to finish up the farking iPhone app.


Seriously. One commercial every 15 minutes is worth it. Needs to start to broadcasting from my laptop to the TV one of these days. Typically just DVR and FF through the commercials.
 
2009-10-05 08:05:53 PM  
lajimi: Crapcast will screw it up like everything else they touch.

i wouldnt call 125,000 miles of Fiber 'screwed up', so friggin easy to pile on about a company.

//to quote Sir John Gielgud "On The Other Hand, Go Screw Yourself.'
 
2009-10-05 08:11:48 PM  
It occurs to me that I don't know the actual timeslot for most of the shows I follow these days due mainly to Hulu. If they started charging I'd just go to other outlets.
 
2009-10-05 08:12:38 PM  
Hmm. Yup, if that happened, I'd go straight back to piracy.
I use Hulu because it's often quicker to stream a show than torrent it, I don't care about the quality loss for something I'm just going to watch once (and their 480p isn't too bad even fullscreen), and it does enable the creators of the shows I like to get paid a little. Plus you'd THINK that popularity on Hulu would at least be a factor in whether a show gets renewed or not.

I'm pretty good at tuning out commercials - often I'll choose the long-form commercial at the start, go take a leak and get a drink, and come back for the start of the show, now commercial-free. It's pretty convenient.

But if they start charging, I'll see you on TPB.
 
2009-10-05 08:20:54 PM  
Dear Communications companies everywhere,

I don't get this. I already fork over good money each month so that I can have internet and now you want to charge me again because you can't figure out that technology and the world has changed.

OH NOES!! People aren't sitting in front of Mr. Fransworth's box anymore because this new marvelous invention that lets them decide when they want to watch something and they can do all sorts of other stuff with it, like look at boobies and share pictures of bunnies with pancakes on their heads.

No one noticed when we stopped harvesting whale oil, or when the borax rush collapsed. No one noticed when the sewing machine industry became almost entirely commercial as opposed to consumer based. Riots over the incandescent bulb? Not happening. On behalf of a species otherwise known as humankind (you may have heard of us), with an overwhelming tendency to move forward into new technologies and the modes of living that accompany them, I would like to wish Comcast and the rest of the current batch of poorly managed short sighted telco giants a found farewell from the world of relevance and a warm welcome to your new future as strip mall tenets of a boutique industry.
 
2009-10-05 08:25:30 PM  
Hulu is perhaps one of the single biggest blows to piracy since the problem exploded and this is their answer to it?
 
2009-10-05 08:27:06 PM  
fish500: Thoguh: Or wait until it comes out on DVD and get it on Netflix.

Or steal it find it for free elsewhere on the intertubes.
 
2009-10-05 08:27:10 PM  
stinieroo: You can already do that. On Amazon. On iTunes.

I'll have to look into Amazon's dealie. Thanks!
 
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2009-10-05 08:27:14 PM  
Even if this deal goes through Comcast will still only own 30% of Hulu. They won't be able to overrule Fox and ABC which, I assume, are happy with the way things are for the time being.

They might make Hulu start charging for their (NBC) shows of course.
 
2009-10-05 08:33:17 PM  
SockMonkeyHolocaust: \The free model is mostly a dead end and the people who espouse it for music are completely clueless about marketing.fark that. fark "marketing". And fark anyone who thinks they can get me to pay for Hulu. If I'm already looking at ads on the site, and watching commercials during programs, they're making money. What you're advocating is greed.

Music is different, because you aren't forced to listen to commercials. Unless you have to listen to the radio, and guess what, that's free. So either we pay a flat rate and get all the TV we want without commercials, or we watch ads and get it for free. Anyone who wants to combine those two is a farking douche, and will be the death of all creative expression as we know it.
 
2009-10-05 08:34:24 PM  
It seems like the whole purpose of the Internet is to make something awesome that a lot of people really like and then to ruin it with a ham-fisted money grab.

Sorry, Hulu. It was nice while it lasted.
 
2009-10-05 08:35:34 PM  
My bad, accidentally deleted a tag in in there. That last post should be:

SockMonkeyHolocaust: The free model is mostly a dead end and the people who espouse it for music are completely clueless about marketing.

Fark that. Fark "marketing". And fark anyone who thinks they can get me to pay for Hulu. If I'm already looking at ads on the site, and watching commercials during programs, they're making money. What you're advocating is greed.

Music is different, because you aren't forced to listen to commercials. Unless you have to listen to the radio, and guess what, that's free. So either we pay a flat rate and get all the TV we want without commercials, or we watch ads and get it for free. Anyone who wants to combine those two is a farking douche, and will be the death of all creative expression as we know it.
 
2009-10-05 08:53:54 PM  
stinieroo: SockMonkeyHolocaust: That sounds like a good idea. I'd pay to be able to watch the few shows i care about (mostly Family Guy, American Dad and now the Cleveland Show) if it meant a limited subscription or pay per-show. The free model is mostly a dead end and the people who espouse it for music are completely clueless about marketing.

You can already do that. On Amazon. On iTunes.


no kidding but also good point
 
2009-10-05 08:54:49 PM  
A cableman: lajimi: Crapcast will screw it up like everything else they touch.

i wouldnt call 125,000 miles of Fiber 'screwed up', so friggin easy to pile on about a company.

//to quote Sir John Gielgud "On The Other Hand, Go Screw Yourself.'


That's all well and good, but knowing that coupled with the fact that they constantly dangle the bandwidth carrot, I'd call it a screw-up. At least when it came to me. I jumped ship as soon as fios was available in my area (with Flyers games), and I'm sure i'm not the only one.

Speaking of which, another screw-up (or screw you?) to the fans of Philadelphia hockey is this exclusive "The Comcast Network CN8" crap they pull for 10 games a year. I'm not sure if this is the same throughout the country. It's BS.

Their screw-up will become more apparent one day when people get even more sick of their crap and leave them altogether. F Comcast.

One more thing, I have reason to suspect that Comcast was selectively passing traffic when I had a VOIP provider other than Comcast. Surely they will deny it, but give me a good reason why certain ports arbitrarily block and unblock themselves. Canyouseeme.org does not lie.
 
2009-10-05 08:54:56 PM  
Posting twice is pretty not passive aggressive, Larry. I am advocating networks being paid for quality content. By letting me pay for individual shows, networks could have a better numerical tell of how popular something is rather than relying on stodgy out-of-date Nielsons. Look at what DVD sales did for Family Guy, Futurama and Joss Whedon's Space Strippers In Space With Space Guns.

Personally, I want a Yacht Rock tv series. It could be the successor of WKRP in Cincinnati, which it has nothing really in common with except both think Jimmy Buffet sucked.
 
2009-10-05 08:56:10 PM  
A cableman: lajimi: Crapcast will screw it up like everything else they touch.

i wouldnt call 125,000 miles of Fiber 'screwed up', so friggin easy to pile on about a company.

//to quote Sir John Gielgud "On The Other Hand, Go Screw Yourself.'


Do you work for comcast? They suck, always have, always will. Laying "125,000 miles of fiber" does jack shiat when I still don't have cable on my TV. Maybe they should've laid 125,001 miles, so I could actually get uninterrupted broadcasting. shiatty service, shiatty customer service, shiatty guide, and shiatty company overall.
 
2009-10-05 08:56:25 PM  
As long as Dudevu is not effected, who cares.
 
2009-10-05 09:07:23 PM  
HUlu ruins things.

I though Hulu was the greatest thing. I watched the first season of Barney Miller in a week, it was great! A little tedious toward the end, but alright. I remember Barney Miller, it was a great show, that Abe Vigoda, bless his long dead soul, made the show. Well him and "Chano." Jack Soo Too! And Barney's wife who was in the credits but only appeared in the first season. Well by the next week (season) I was tired of all the 70s stereotypes about women drivers and gay men; raining down on me like a flock of poo-flinging flying monkeys. It really needed a week between each episode. At the time I was working for a company that I cannot mention, and we were collecting so much data from each view it wasn't funny. Did you complete? I knew it by IP address. Did you rewind, I saw that. Did you rewind and pause at the boobies shot we put in the ads hell yeah you did, you filthy /b/tard.
 
2009-10-05 09:09:37 PM  
SockMonkeyHolocaust: That sounds like a good idea. I'd pay to be able to watch the few shows i care about (mostly Family Guy, American Dad and now the Cleveland Show) if it meant a limited subscription or pay per-show. The free model is mostly a dead end and the people who espouse it for music are completely clueless about marketing.

Sony PSN does this for you on PS3
 
2009-10-05 09:18:03 PM  
I am Sancho: Oh no! How will I ever be able to get my tv shows from the internet for free?

I know.. if only there was some kind of program available to...obtain...things for free... We should name this type of downloadable file after rain. No, not just rain.. not a drizzle nor mist... not quite a monsoon...

Damnit, man! The word escapes me!
 
2009-10-05 09:18:05 PM  
Here's an idea, just to throw out there.
How about network shows stay free, because we can get them free already, and cable shows be blocked until you log in as a cable/satelite subscriber or pay a small fee if you're not.

I use Hulu like a secondary Tivo, as I'm sure more then a few people do. So this would work fine for me.
 
2009-10-05 09:22:19 PM  
I hadn't messed with Hulu since I found out they only have clips of Futurama and not full episodes. I went back today because of this thread to see if anything changed and it hadn't (too many damn clip only versions of Futurama and many other things.)

I did watch the latest Family Guy episode that was up and you get commercials at the beginning plus some short ones throughout the episode. Not bad really.

/Put some effin full episodes of Futurama up u Hulu chodes!
//Whoa, I need a drink or something.
 
2009-10-05 09:31:51 PM  
This is why we need Net Neutrality.
 
2009-10-05 09:37:11 PM  
bronyaur1: Or steal it

Um, no. I already have the rights to anything on broadcast television, and, as a cable subscriber, anything on most cable channels. Downloading it via torrent is no different than timeshifting it (and nuking commercials) via Tivo.

If the networks gave me a solution half as convenient, I'd use it. But they don't.
 
2009-10-05 09:41:53 PM  
you're all a bunch of f*cking slaves.
 
2009-10-05 09:45:25 PM  
Comcast is not completely useless.
farm1.static.flickr.com
 
2009-10-05 09:46:48 PM  
On a related note, anybody catch the premier of Stargate:Universe? I went into it expecting to hate it (I had been calling it "Stargate:Voyager"), but I was pleasantly surprised. It wasn't spectacular, but it was pretty good. If, as happens with many shows, future episodes improve on the pilot, it could actually be a good show.
 
2009-10-05 09:56:55 PM  
Geez, so many people here so ready to jump on the comcast hate bandwagon. "Comcast hates hulu!" "They'll slap a fee on it!"... blah blah. Hey, buy a clue. www.fancast.com

Run by Comcast. Free with or WITHOUT having Comcast services. Has the EXACT. SAME. FREE. CONTENT.

/oh wait, i forgot, if you don't hate Comcast you're not cool on teh interwebs
 
2009-10-05 10:00:44 PM  
My family had Comcast for years, and had continually lousy service. When we switched to another provider, we figured out why our internet was so flaky. They'd done two things wrong during their installation. First, they damaged one of the transmission wires, and "fixed" it by duct-taping it together. Second, we found out that we had a physical bottleneck in our connection, because the wire inside the house was too small and the Comcast tech had been too lazy to run a new one.

Between that and Comcast's tendency to run smear campaigns every time they disagree with somebody, I'm hoping that this acquisition doesn't go through.

As it stands now, though, I'm more worried about Comcast getting anywhere near the creative side of one of the major networks. Their cable channels are awful - with the possible exceptions of The Soup (because of Joel McHale) and the NHL playoffs, I don't think I've watched anything on E!, G4, Versus, or any of the other networks they own for quite some time. If the executives that are in charge of that programming get their hands on the NBC networks, I'm afraid to imagine what might happen.
 
2009-10-05 10:04:08 PM  
SockMonkeyHolocaust: Posting twice is pretty not passive aggressive, Larry. I am advocating networks being paid for quality content. By letting me pay for individual shows, networks could have a better numerical tell of how popular something is rather than relying on stodgy out-of-date Nielsons. Look at what DVD sales did for Family Guy, Futurama and Joss Whedon's Space Strippers In Space With Space Guns.

Personally, I want a Yacht Rock tv series. It could be the successor of WKRP in Cincinnati, which it has nothing really in common with except both think Jimmy Buffet sucked.


I don't mind paying a network for quality programming, but I do care about a third party trying to charge me multiple times just to have access to that programming.

Comcast is just pissed that their entire business is becoming outdated, and they want to find a way to make as much money as possible. It really pisses them off that people are finding ways to avoid paying them, and getting everything they used to offer in a cheaper, quicker, easier to use format and with far fewer commercials.

So fark Comcast. If they can't find a way to profit from Hulu, they'll just start charging more for their internet service to make up the difference.
 
2009-10-05 10:06:22 PM  
And people will go back to using BitTorrent to get TV shows they missed even faster.
 
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