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2009-10-02 11:10:56 PM
5 years old?

WTF, was there a shotgun in the womb with him?
 
2009-10-02 11:21:36 PM
They're hunting alligators on their own property, so I imagine they have livestock or whatnot threatened.

But still, the look the kid is giving that dead gator gives me the heebie jeepies.
 
2009-10-02 11:26:39 PM
If he did it with a bow and arrow I'd be impressed.
 
2009-10-02 11:27:51 PM
Nice shootin Tex.
 
2009-10-02 11:27:57 PM
Ah, Texas!
 
2009-10-02 11:28:36 PM
I was expecting to him say that he wants the blood after looking at that picture.
 
2009-10-02 11:28:37 PM
Farkin' A!

Link is farked but if anyone can post the photo in question...
 
2009-10-02 11:28:45 PM
Damn strait !
 
2009-10-02 11:29:00 PM
Well at least they are not really wasting any of it. Boots out of the meat, mounting the head and eating the meat.
 
2009-10-02 11:29:39 PM
SapperInTexas: Farkin' A!

Link is farked but if anyone can post the photo in question...


latimesblogs.latimes.com
 
2009-10-02 11:30:06 PM
Photo:

img40.imageshack.us
 
2009-10-02 11:31:01 PM
wild9: Well at least they are not really wasting any of it. Boots out of the meat, mounting the head and eating the meat.

He is gonna have some kick-ass meat boots.
 
2009-10-02 11:32:12 PM
wild9: SapperInTexas: Farkin' A!

Link is farked but if anyone can post the photo in question...


That is the face of someone who tasted blood, and found it delicious.
 
2009-10-02 11:32:29 PM
I feel uncomfortable with giving a 5 year old a shotgun.

I mean its good that hes probably been taught gun safety and how to properly use/handle the thing, and I'm sure the kid probably doesn't ever have access to it when not supervised, but it just sits wrong with me.
 
2009-10-02 11:32:29 PM
That's almost big enough to impress an Austrian.
 
2009-10-02 11:32:33 PM
PickinWhiskers: wild9: Well at least they are not really wasting any of it. Boots out of the meat, mounting the head and eating the meat.

He is gonna have some kick-ass meat boots.


Ha, just noticed that. Been a long week :/
 
2009-10-02 11:32:51 PM
"As a mom it sort of scares you to death, because there's alligators, there's snakes, there's all of that sort of thing out there," said Toni Hughes. "What we thought was huge was a 10-foot and this one just dwarfs the 10-foot. I mean its just so massive and prehistoric looking."

Yeah, I'd be more concerned about the murderous, psychopathic look in my 5 year old kid's eyes -- thanks Fark, tonight I get the Village of the Damned nightmare.

/I was looking forward to a second night of zombies
//Well like the great philosopher Jagger says - you can't always get what you want.
 
2009-10-02 11:32:58 PM
Thanks wild9 and jennyz!
 
2009-10-02 11:33:27 PM
I will be expecting a follow-up along these lines
Link (new window)
 
2009-10-02 11:33:53 PM
Wasilla Hillbilly: That's almost big enough to impress an Austrian.

Pfft, Austrians, all they do is eat shrimp on the barbie and lose their babies to dingos.
 
2009-10-02 11:33:58 PM
 
2009-10-02 11:36:38 PM
Some of the Texas toddlers don't even carry a gun. A lotta folks find that hard to believe. Jim Scarborough'd never carry one; that's the younger Jim(age 4). Gaston Boykins wouldn't wear one up in Camanche County. I always liked to hear about the youngsters. Never missed a chance to do so. You can't help but compare yourself against these little tykes. Can't help but wonder how theyd've operated these times.
 
2009-10-02 11:36:56 PM
Teaching children to kill is part of the American Dream, when he's older he can carry concealed weapons into bars and Town Hall meetings.

Hooray@
 
2009-10-02 11:40:24 PM
I want to be clear that I respect hunters who eat their kill, and I believe strongly in the second amendment.

But...

I have this problem with baited line gator hunting.

Its not really that hard. You bait a hook and tie it to a stump. The gator swallows the hook, or sometimes just a baited lump tied with string and it gets stuck in his stomach. When you come back the next day you just tug on the line until he swims up to you then pop, shoot him in the head.

Its not very sporting, sort of like shooting a game fish you caught on a long line with dozens of hooks.

Anyway I caught the whole im a croc hunter thing while I was in Houma about ten years ago. Seemed like a huge waste of money maintaining fish and game agents and equipment to regulate the hunting rights of about a thousand native creoles. Would have been cheaper to pay them each the 25 grand they make hunting crocs every year and leave the agents home. Plus their homes smell like partially rotted gator meat from the curing shed. yuck.

If you want to take a 12 gauge slug and wade into the water to hunt one.....I respect that.
 
2009-10-02 11:40:29 PM
Texas has alligators?

And this really isn't hunting, they baited a hook and then pulled the rope slowly until the gator popped out, so they had plenty of prep time. Sure it could've rushed and attacked them, but after however many hours hooked... who knows how exhausted it was.

Also, wtf is a junior shotgun?

theinfosphere.org
 
2009-10-02 11:41:18 PM
mrEdude: Teaching children to kill is part of the American Dream, when he's older he can carry concealed weapons into bars and Town Hall meetings.

Hooray@


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That kid in the picture...even he thinks you are a giant, sandy vagina
 
2009-10-02 11:42:27 PM
Jynnjynn: I feel uncomfortable with giving a 5 year old a shotgun.

I mean its good that hes probably been taught gun safety and how to properly use/handle the thing, and I'm sure the kid probably doesn't ever have access to it when not supervised, but it just sits wrong with me.


Why, do you have cooties?

I hear he hates anyone with cooties.
 
2009-10-02 11:42:36 PM
mrEdude: Teaching children to kill is part of the American Dream, when he's older he can carry concealed weapons into bars and Town Hall meetings.

Hooray@


0/10

Oh come on, you aren't even trying.
 
2009-10-02 11:42:54 PM
The gator was 35 to 40 years old?

Dayum, that's like Grampa years for them, isn't it? He's probably five years away from gumming people to death. He probably had a little scooty-walker and was just shuffling along, minding his own business, thought he was on his own damn lawn.

And that kid's GLARE...he's like five years away from drowning kittens and kicking puppies!

/What? I'm just saying...
//That was pretty badass, though...I'd have my T-ball bat, swinging like a girl
 
2009-10-02 11:44:24 PM
media.giantbomb.com
 
2009-10-02 11:45:10 PM
repeat.. good job subby for giving us old news. the mods are fired
 
2009-10-02 11:45:13 PM
farm1.static.flickr.com

Approves!
 
2009-10-02 11:46:21 PM
mrEdude: Teaching children to kill is part of the American Dream, when he's older he can carry concealed weapons into bars and Town Hall meetings.

Hooray@


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2009-10-02 11:46:37 PM
That kid is going to grow up as a bully. I'm sure people will be referring to him as the kid who killed the big alligator when he was just 5 years old. This thought will be instilled in his brain, and he will develop a badass attitude. He will later on despise weaklings and he'll strive to make himself stronger than anyone else. He will then boss around people and get into fights if he's the one being pushed around.

The worse part with this kid is that when he loses to someone stronger than him, his self-esteem will break down, and it is very possible that he will develop a need to prove his power over someone by killing or beating up people.
 
2009-10-02 11:46:56 PM
Swagger Jacker: I want the blood...

Damn, I'm too late.

Love that video.
 
2009-10-02 11:47:09 PM
ProdigalSigh: Texas has alligators?

And this really isn't hunting, they baited a hook and then pulled the rope slowly until the gator popped out, so they had plenty of prep time. Sure it could've rushed and attacked them, but after however many hours hooked... who knows how exhausted it was.

Also, wtf is a junior shotgun?


East Texas has a bunch of forests and swamp land.
 
2009-10-02 11:48:40 PM
ProdigalSigh: Texas has alligators?

And this really isn't hunting, they baited a hook and then pulled the rope slowly until the gator popped out, so they had plenty of prep time. Sure it could've rushed and attacked them, but after however many hours hooked... who knows how exhausted it was.

Also, wtf is a junior shotgun?


A "junior shotgun" is for small people, like children and Democrats.
 
2009-10-02 11:49:07 PM
archichris:
Its not very sporting, sort of like shooting a game fish you caught on a long line with dozens of hooks.


------------------------------------

Why do people think like this...Jebus freaking Christ

Hunting is not all about sport...it is about harvest. The easier and more efficient the better. The purpose is not 1 to 1 parity with the animal you are trying to hunt. It is taking it in a humane and rather common sense manner. Guns are very good at this and that is why they are used.

The very concept that you are somehow cheating if you don't dive in the water in and catch a fish with your hands -or- wrestle the damn deer to the ground in a choke hold is laughable at best. Ignorant at most.
 
2009-10-02 11:49:28 PM
GreenSun: That kid is going to grow up as a bully. I'm sure people will be referring to him as the kid who killed the big alligator when he was just 5 years old. This thought will be instilled in his brain, and he will develop a badass attitude. He will later on despise weaklings and he'll strive to make himself stronger than anyone else. He will then boss around people and get into fights if he's the one being pushed around.
1.bp.blogspot.com
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2009-10-02 11:49:45 PM
Would have been badass if he just happened across it.

Instead it was a baited trap.

So it's just another sad white trash story.
 
2009-10-02 11:49:53 PM
GreenSun: That kid is going to grow up as a bully. I'm sure people will be referring to him as the kid who killed the big alligator when he was just 5 years old. This thought will be instilled in his brain, and he will develop a badass attitude. He will later on despise weaklings and he'll strive to make himself stronger than anyone else. He will then boss around people and get into fights if he's the one being pushed around.

The worse part with this kid is that when he loses to someone stronger than him, his self-esteem will break down, and it is very possible that he will develop a need to prove his power over someone by killing or beating up people.


Really? Thank you Dr Phil.
 
2009-10-02 11:50:25 PM
GreenSun: That kid is going to grow up as a bully. I'm sure people will be referring to him as the kid who killed the big alligator when he was just 5 years old. This thought will be instilled in his brain, and he will develop a badass attitude. He will later on despise weaklings and he'll strive to make himself stronger than anyone else. He will then boss around people and get into fights if he's the one being pushed around.

The worse part with this kid is that when he loses to someone stronger than him, his self-esteem will break down, and it is very possible that he will develop a need to prove his power over someone by killing or beating up people.


Excellent.

Here's your diploma for the Fark Institute Of Online Psychiatry.

Now go hang your shingle and start taking patients!
 
2009-10-02 11:50:40 PM
I am reminded of the scene in The Big Red One when the kid opens up the last oven and sees the nazi with the machine gun. They both freeze, then the nazi pulls the trigger... "click." And the kid shoots him. Then he shoots him again. And again, and again. And the sound of his rifle firing repeats slowly for a minute or two as Lee Marvin walks up and hands him another clip.
 
2009-10-02 11:51:45 PM
GreenSun: That kid is going to grow up as a bully. I'm sure people will be referring to him as the kid who killed the big alligator when he was just 5 years old. This thought will be instilled in his brain, and he will develop a badass attitude. He will later on despise weaklings and he'll strive to make himself stronger than anyone else. He will then boss around people and get into fights if he's the one being pushed around.

The worse part with this kid is that when he loses to someone stronger than him, his self-esteem will break down, and it is very possible that he will develop a need to prove his power over someone by killing or beating up people.


Worst case scenario is worst case.

He could also grow up as a person who likes to hunt in his spare time but knows where to draw the line because his dad taught him more than just how to pull a trigger...

Becoming a bully isn't an even, it's a process and good parenting will keep a child on track. Guns aren't inherently bad.
 
2009-10-02 11:51:46 PM
TheJoe03: ProdigalSigh: Texas has alligators?

And this really isn't hunting, they baited a hook and then pulled the rope slowly until the gator popped out, so they had plenty of prep time. Sure it could've rushed and attacked them, but after however many hours hooked... who knows how exhausted it was.

Also, wtf is a junior shotgun?

East Texas has a bunch of forests and swamp land.


Especially up past Arnette near Braintree.
 
2009-10-02 11:51:48 PM
archichris: Its not very sporting

content9.flixster.com
 
2009-10-02 11:52:25 PM
No, no, I was trying- best I got, seriously.


*sob*
 
2009-10-02 11:52:30 PM
Wasilla Hillbilly: That's almost big enough to impress an Austrian.

Good idea to start the kids on the little stuff and work their way up.
 
2009-10-02 11:53:03 PM
SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Would have been badass if he just happened across it.

Instead it was a baited trap.

So it's just another sad white trash story.


What's so sad?

A nice hunk of food resource being delivered to the table.

Sounds yummy to me!
 
2009-10-02 11:53:15 PM
TheJoe03: ProdigalSigh: Texas has alligators?

And this really isn't hunting, they baited a hook and then pulled the rope slowly until the gator popped out, so they had plenty of prep time. Sure it could've rushed and attacked them, but after however many hours hooked... who knows how exhausted it was.

Also, wtf is a junior shotgun?

East Texas has a bunch of forests and swamp land.


Southeast Texas is indistinguishable from southern Louisiana in terms of topography, climate and wild life, generally a sucking h*ll hole. And if I recall from the article this took place near Lake Livingston which is part of Sam Houston national forest .... forest in this case meaning swamp.
 
2009-10-02 11:53:29 PM
TheJoe03: East Texas has a bunch of forests and swamp land.

Yeah I guess they are next to LA, swampland is just not what I think of when I think of Texas, my kneejerk reaction was a WTF?
 
2009-10-02 11:54:03 PM
The worse part with this kid is that when he loses to someone stronger than him, his self-esteem will break down, and it is very possible that he will develop a need to prove his power over someone by killing or beating up people.

...in a drunken stupor. You forgot the drunken stupor. I predict multiple DUI arrests as well. Just cuz.
 
2009-10-02 11:54:40 PM
ProdigalSigh: Texas has alligators?

And this really isn't hunting, they baited a hook and then pulled the rope slowly until the gator popped out, so they had plenty of prep time. Sure it could've rushed and attacked them, but after however many hours hooked... who knows how exhausted it was.

Also, wtf is a junior shotgun?


Scooty Puff Jr. sssssuuuuuuuuucccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkssssssss.........

/Duly noted!
 
2009-10-02 11:54:53 PM
Is it cool to tie a chicken to a tree and wait till coyotes come in to eat it then bang
/Is that even hunting
//Is it legal for me to do that to feral cats and bums
 
2009-10-02 11:55:14 PM
SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Would have been badass if he just happened across it.

Instead it was a baited trap.

So it's just another sad white trash story.


Yeah. Sad white trash who's daddy owns 5000 acres in TX.
 
2009-10-02 11:55:22 PM
Loucifer: TheJoe03: ProdigalSigh: Texas has alligators?

And this really isn't hunting, they baited a hook and then pulled the rope slowly until the gator popped out, so they had plenty of prep time. Sure it could've rushed and attacked them, but after however many hours hooked... who knows how exhausted it was.

Also, wtf is a junior shotgun?

East Texas has a bunch of forests and swamp land.

Especially up past Arnette near Braintree.


Braintree?

This river don't go to Braintree!

/50 cents
 
2009-10-02 11:56:25 PM
archichris: I want to be clear that I respect hunters who eat their kill, and I believe strongly in the second amendment.

But...

I have this problem with baited line gator hunting.

Its not really that hard. You bait a hook and tie it to a stump. The gator swallows the hook, or sometimes just a baited lump tied with string and it gets stuck in his stomach. When you come back the next day you just tug on the line until he swims up to you then pop, shoot him in the head.

Its not very sporting, sort of like shooting a game fish you caught on a long line with dozens of hooks.

Anyway I caught the whole im a croc hunter thing while I was in Houma about ten years ago. Seemed like a huge waste of money maintaining fish and game agents and equipment to regulate the hunting rights of about a thousand native creoles. Would have been cheaper to pay them each the 25 grand they make hunting crocs every year and leave the agents home. Plus their homes smell like partially rotted gator meat from the curing shed. yuck.

If you want to take a 12 gauge slug and wade into the water to hunt one.....I respect that.


It isn't much of a sport, but who the hell wants alligators around? We had one in the waterpark in an upscale neighborhood near Houston.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8950725025665782603#
 
2009-10-02 11:56:52 PM
cksewell: Sad white trash who's daddy owns 5000 acres in TX.

That reminds me of someone.
 
2009-10-02 11:57:23 PM
ProdigalSigh: TheJoe03: East Texas has a bunch of forests and swamp land.

Yeah I guess they are next to LA, swampland is just not what I think of when I think of Texas, my kneejerk reaction was a WTF?


Yeah, Texas is pretty much 5 different regions in one state. When I tell people I'm from Texas they always ask me about living in the desert and I'm like "WTF?". Most of the state is plains though, I can understand that stereotype.
 
2009-10-02 11:58:23 PM
RockIsDead: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Would have been badass if he just happened across it.

Instead it was a baited trap.

So it's just another sad white trash story.

What's so sad?

A nice hunk of food resource being delivered to the table.

Sounds yummy to me!


Would you eat a dog?
I say why not put all that pound meat to good use as fertilizer or to feed the elderly
 
2009-10-02 11:59:51 PM
ProdigalSigh: TheJoe03: East Texas has a bunch of forests and swamp land.

Yeah I guess they are next to LA, swampland is just not what I think of when I think of Texas, my kneejerk reaction was a WTF?


Texas is a seriously big state. Pick four other normal sized states and you get Texas. Now think if the range and variation in those four states, as long as none of them include mountains, you've go Texas. The panhandle gets 5-12 inches of snow in the winter, western Texas has desert, south western Texas low scrub plains, southeastern Texas (as stated preciously) is a sucking h*ll hole, central Texas has acres upon acres of prime grazing land, far north east Texas has rolling hills and the DFW has traffic .. yeah, that the metroplex's primary contribution - traffic.
 
2009-10-03 12:02:04 AM
Alternate headline: small child kills animal placed in front of him for fun.

The size of the animal doesn't make it more impressive. Just more of a waste.
 
2009-10-03 12:04:37 AM
I sure hope PETA reads this story. It's always funny to listen to what they have to say.
 
2009-10-03 12:05:24 AM
drjekel_mrhyde
Would you eat a dog?
I say why not put all that pound meat to good use as fertilizer or to feed the elderly


Yeah, I too, would like to feed my grandparents the dog parts that weren't suitable to spread in their garden.
 
2009-10-03 12:07:35 AM
riquiscott: Texas is a seriously big state. Pick four other normal sized states and you get Texas. Now think if the range and variation in those four states, as long as none of them include mountains, you've go Texas.

I'm from Indiana, you can fit Texas into the huge swath of land that looks exactly the same. Not saying you're wrong, just that my conception is somewhat skewed as being from Indiana... the land could be on a tape loop and you wouldn't notice for several hundred miles.
 
2009-10-03 12:08:15 AM
Texas Rocks!
we got guns, gators, and gorgeous gato!

oh, and bud light too
 
2009-10-03 12:10:02 AM
WilliamLeeTwitch: I sure hope PETA reads this story. It's always funny to listen to what they have to say.

"OMG THAT STUPID KID KILLED A RIVER PUPPY!!"

That's just my guess.
 
2009-10-03 12:10:21 AM
riquiscott: ProdigalSigh: TheJoe03: East Texas has a bunch of forests and swamp land.

Yeah I guess they are next to LA, swampland is just not what I think of when I think of Texas, my kneejerk reaction was a WTF?

Texas is a seriously big state. Pick four other normal sized states and you get Texas. Now think if the range and variation in those four states, as long as none of them include mountains, you've go Texas. The panhandle gets 5-12 inches of snow in the winter, western Texas has desert, south western Texas low scrub plains, southeastern Texas (as stated preciously) is a sucking h*ll hole, central Texas has acres upon acres of prime grazing land, far north east Texas has rolling hills and the DFW has traffic .. yeah, that the metroplex's primary contribution - traffic.


Big mountains maybe, Texas does have the Franklin Mountains atleast. I used to go climbing, well, walking in them when I lived in El Paso years ago. Of course I now hear El Paso is basically a huge overdeveloped sprawl of suburban waste land. It's to bad.
 
2009-10-03 12:10:44 AM
The only "Junior Shotgun" I can think of is a .410 Snakecharmer, he must have used buckshot.
 
2009-10-03 12:12:32 AM
I bet he was standing firm in the mud and was well braced for the shot - being that he wasn't wearing any shoes...

/ Southern Louisiana and East Texas joke
// duck and runs.
 
2009-10-03 12:12:35 AM
Subby should be ASHAMED for talking about a five-year-old's "junior size shotgun!"

/ You pervy wanker.
 
2009-10-03 12:15:48 AM
See cuz when your from either LA or Texas ya gotta have some shotgun skills. It's a matter of survival.
 
2009-10-03 12:15:52 AM
Amos Moses? (Pops like a junior-sized shotgun)
 
2009-10-03 12:17:26 AM
for the record, there's alligators pretty much all over the east side of the state

original article (new window)

pdf of gator distribution across the state (new window)
 
2009-10-03 12:18:42 AM
SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Would have been badass if he just happened across it.

Instead it was a baited trap.

So it's just another sad white trash story.


Exaactly.
 
2009-10-03 12:19:50 AM
www.chron.com

non creepy shot of the kid
 
2009-10-03 12:20:02 AM
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2009-10-03 12:22:11 AM
I-10 aceoss Texas is about 880 miles.

Texline to Brownsville is about 950 driving miles and 800 crow flies miles.

Or there abouts.
 
2009-10-03 12:23:36 AM
TheJoe03: ProdigalSigh: TheJoe03: East Texas has a bunch of forests and swamp land.

Yeah I guess they are next to LA, swampland is just not what I think of when I think of Texas, my kneejerk reaction was a WTF?

Yeah, Texas is pretty much 5 different regions in one state. When I tell people I'm from Texas they always ask me about living in the desert and I'm like "WTF?". Most of the state is plains though, I can understand that stereotype.


it's cause half the films that are supposed to be in texas, are usually filmed in eastern new mexico
 
2009-10-03 12:23:56 AM
He needs to hook up with "burning house girl" in a few years
 
2009-10-03 12:28:53 AM
loonatic112358: non creepy shot of the kid alligator's vagina

FTFY
 
2009-10-03 12:33:53 AM
BuzzBoy: The only "Junior Shotgun" I can think of is a .410 Snakecharmer, he must have used buckshot.

There are lots of "youth model" shotguns around. Like the one in the link, they are often 20g and have a shorter stock and pull. No idea what ammo is used to hunt crocs, but buck or slug would seem obvious.
 
2009-10-03 12:34:31 AM
loonatic112358: TheJoe03: ProdigalSigh: TheJoe03: East Texas has a bunch of forests and swamp land.

Yeah I guess they are next to LA, swampland is just not what I think of when I think of Texas, my kneejerk reaction was a WTF?

Yeah, Texas is pretty much 5 different regions in one state. When I tell people I'm from Texas they always ask me about living in the desert and I'm like "WTF?". Most of the state is plains though, I can understand that stereotype.

it's cause half the films that are supposed to be in texas, are usually filmed in eastern new mexico


The '81 movie Southern Comfort about the National Guard in the LA bayou was filmed in the swamps of east Texas. Been there. Cypress trees with the Spanish moss hanging...gators and nutria. Dark and creepy
 
2009-10-03 12:34:31 AM
Like the cliche goes, don't fark with Texas.
 
2009-10-03 12:36:08 AM
I want a red rider 200 shot carbine action range model air rifle with a compass and this thing which tells time built right in the stock, a 12-gauge auto-loader, a .45 long slide, with laser sighting, phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range, and an Uzi nine millimeter.

Flick says he saw some gators near Pulaski's candy store.
 
2009-10-03 12:36:23 AM
loonatic112358: non creepy shot of the kid

Jeez. That kid has huge feet for a 5 year old. You know what that means right? He is going to be very popular as a teenager.
 
2009-10-03 12:36:52 AM
cksewell: The '81 movie Southern Comfort about the National Guard in the LA bayou was filmed in the swamps of east Texas. Been there. Cypress trees with the Spanish moss hanging...gators and nutria. Dark and creepy

I was thinking westerns, since i never saw that

now i should rent it
 
2009-10-03 12:37:27 AM
loonatic112358: non creepy shot of the kid

Why is the alligator always pictured upside down? What did he do, blow the top off the thing?
 
2009-10-03 12:38:54 AM
loonatic112358: non creepy shot of the kid

Big "aw shucks" smile right next to a dead, decapitated alligator's asshole. No, that one's pretty creepy too.
 
2009-10-03 12:39:00 AM
loonatic112358: for the record, there's alligators pretty much all over the east side of the state

original article (new window)


Isn't this the original article? (posted the day before, credited to the station by AP)

Then, there is a follow up the next day (the same day as the Houston Chronicle article)

/just saying ...
 
2009-10-03 12:40:31 AM
Korzine: El Paso

And now I've got that song stuck in my head.
 
2009-10-03 12:41:57 AM
We had a 3,000-acre plot and a 1,200-arce plot about a hundred miles west of Houston when I was growing up, and I was certainly shooting at that age. I was shooting rifles, though. Shotguns are mostly for bird hunting.

A couple of family members bagged some alligators in the lakes and rivers on the property including an old grampa that had taken at least one calf that we knew of, and it was MUCH larger that that one in the article.

I never shot a 'gator, though. Just deer and Javelina (Peccary) and gophers and lots and LOTS of water moccasins that would infest the cattle's drinking water ponds and a couple of rattlesnakes that had taken to sunning themselves on walking paths. But we used .22s for the snakes 'cause shotguns make it too easy. Yes, we were bored most of the time. Heh.

But really, we knew there were alligators all over the property. We just didn't worry about it unless they were bothering the livestock or posed a threat to humans (like the rattlesnakes on the paths). Alligators really and truly don't bother people unless you work pretty hard to aggravate them or have children toddler-sized or smaller.

We'd go float fishing (body supported by innertube at the shoulders with torso and legs submerged) and wade and swim in the lakes and ponds where we'd see plenty of 'gators swimming past all the time, and never had a problem with it. They never even came close enough to make us nervous; just minded their own business.

Good times...
 
2009-10-03 12:45:14 AM
Shooting an animal in a baited trap is impressive? They probably have mounted fish that they shot in a barrel
 
2009-10-03 12:45:59 AM
 
2009-10-03 12:47:50 AM
Hehehehe, I saw that one coming...
 
2009-10-03 12:49:17 AM
Prospero424: Hehehehe, I saw that one coming...

Sorry, had to do it!
 
2009-10-03 12:51:03 AM
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If the shotgun is clear plastic, now that's your first indicator that you don't want to take on a gator with it.
 
2009-10-03 12:51:14 AM
ProdigalSigh: Korzine: El Paso

And now I've got that song stuck in my head.


That's not so bad. I lived there when Billy Ray released Achy Breaky Heart. So that's the song that jumps into my head when I think about El Paso.
 
2009-10-03 12:53:31 AM
Korzine: That's not so bad. I lived there when Billy Ray released Achy Breaky Heart The Song That Should Never Be Named. So that's the song that jumps into my head when I think about El Paso.

*shudder*
 
2009-10-03 12:56:44 AM
I love guns, but giving a shotgun, even a 410, to a 5 year old is just plain stoopid.

Bet the idiot Dad gave the lil squirt a mini chain saw too.
 
2009-10-03 12:57:55 AM
Glad the kid was taught to handle a gun correctly.

/duh!
 
2009-10-03 12:59:18 AM
Dances-With-Lobster: Alternate headline: small child kills animal placed in front of him for fun.

The size of the animal doesn't make it more impressive. Just more of a waste.


Like your brain.
 
2009-10-03 01:02:08 AM
GratuityIncluded: Dances-With-Lobster: Alternate headline: small child kills animal placed in front of him for fun.

The size of the animal doesn't make it more impressive. Just more of a waste.

Like your brain.


This boy lives on a 5,000 acre ranch and needs to know how to protect himself. I am sure that gator would have no issue snacking on him.
 
2009-10-03 01:05:15 AM
The Southern Dandy: I love guns, but giving a shotgun, even a 410, to a 5 year old is just plain stoopid.

Bet the idiot Dad gave the lil squirt a mini chain saw too.


But it was a junior-sized shotgun...so it was safe.
 
2009-10-03 01:05:55 AM
I wouldn't call this hunting, just baiting and shooting an exhausted predator.

Whatever, on a 5k acre ranch this shiat needs to be done. Good on the kid and the dad.
 
2009-10-03 01:09:09 AM
Korzine: That's not so bad. I lived there when Billy Ray released Achy Breaky Heart. So that's the song that jumps into my head when I think about El Paso.

Youch, I actually love El Paso, I can't imagine the pain in your brain right now.

Prospero424 I envy your childhood. The only thing I ever got good at bullseyeing were cicadas in trees with a bb-gun.
 
2009-10-03 01:09:34 AM
Let's call it what it really is: Tricking and killing.

/stolen
//in other words: HOT
///slashies!
\\\\backwards slashies!!!!!!11eleventy!!1one
 
2009-10-03 01:11:28 AM
Here's another vote for "bating and killing" instead of hunting.
 
2009-10-03 01:12:06 AM
HawgWild: Let's call it what it really is: Tricking and killing.

/stolen
//in other words: HOT
///slashies!
\\\\backwards slashies!!!!!!11eleventy!!1one


ugh, preview is my friend ...

blackchristiannews.com

/finally ... hot!
 
2009-10-03 01:13:15 AM
Do i hear banjos?
 
2009-10-03 01:18:58 AM
Next up: Shooting wolves out of a helicopter.
 
2009-10-03 01:19:05 AM
Xzavier: Do i hear banjos?

25unitstogo.files.wordpress.com

Maybe ...

/hot like Fat Bastard is NOT
//everyone likes their own brand
///smelly
////slashies!
 
2009-10-03 01:20:37 AM
There are plenty of 5 year olds around. Giant alligators, not so much.

This kid was Fark bait either way.

/teaching a kid how to use guns safely is good.

//Can't say I agree with gator baiting though.

///Troll baiting is fine.
 
2009-10-03 01:22:42 AM
zepplinrules: I wouldn't call this hunting, just baiting and shooting an exhausted predator.

Whatever, on a 5k acre ranch this shiat needs to be done. Good on the kid and the dad.


I agree. Like those who bait a deer for a few months and then shoot it from a stand when it comes to feed. Not hunters. But I have no problem with this either. Kill it and eat it. But the real sport of hunting would be if the animals were armed with guns as well.
 
2009-10-03 01:26:40 AM
When I was about 11 or 12, the Boy Scout troop I was in was at Myakka State Park, east of Sarasota, FL. A bunch of us kids got it into our heads it would really be a super cool idea to whittle spears out of palmetto frond spines and try to spear an 8' alligator in the river.

Fortunately for us, the 'gator just gave us a look of "Are you just farking stupid, or what?" before he swam off after our attack.

We were damn lucky we were not on his lunch menu that day.
 
2009-10-03 01:38:08 AM
ProdigalSigh: Prospero424 I envy your childhood. The only thing I ever got good at bullseyeing were cicadas in trees with a bb-gun.

Yeah, I actually don't even miss the hunting so much, though I still like to go shooting every once in a while. It's mostly having that much land to do whatever the hell I wanted on that I miss. Camping is great, and I go as often as I can, but most of the time you're not even allowed to build a fire in public parks, no matter how careful you are.

Texas is a lot dryer these days than it used to be. It sucks.

To have that much freedom in nature as kid/young adult to go to sticking to worn trails and nearly ubiquitous restrictions on activity nowadays grates on me at times, but I still have a blast.
 
2009-10-03 01:43:31 AM
PickinWhiskers: wild9: Well at least they are not really wasting any of it. Boots out of the meat, mounting the head and eating the meat.

He is gonna have some kick-ass meat boots.


Better than having some kick ass-meat boots, I guess.
 
2009-10-03 01:49:14 AM
mrEdude: Teaching children to kill is part of the American Dream, when he's older he can carry concealed weapons into bars and Town Hall meetings.

Hooray@


I guess in your world teaching children their constitutional rightd mean nothing and they should live as a helpless victim is more American. Maybe it's more American to to let your kid roam around on your alligator infested property and be eaten.

Carrying a concealed weapon is legal with a permit. Most people prefer to carry concealed because pussies like you freak out when citizens open carry.
 
2009-10-03 01:51:02 AM
GreenSun: That kid is going to grow up as a bully. I'm sure people will be referring to him as the kid who killed the big alligator when he was just 5 years old. This thought will be instilled in his brain, and he will develop a badass attitude. He will later on despise weaklings and he'll strive to make himself stronger than anyone else. He will then boss around people and get into fights if he's the one being pushed around.

The worse part with this kid is that when he loses to someone stronger than him, his self-esteem will break down, and it is very possible that he will develop a need to prove his power over someone by killing or beating up people.


Projecting much?
 
2009-10-03 01:51:16 AM
I bet this kid's dad gave him a mini copy of the constitution when he bought him his junior shotgun.
 
2009-10-03 01:51:17 AM
Mmmm... Gator jerky!

/Had a gun @ 5 also
//Mine was a .22
///I could also bullseye womp rats in my T-16
 
2009-10-03 01:53:25 AM
texastag: ///I could also bullseye womp rats in my T-16

Impossible, they can't be any bigger than 2 meters.
 
2009-10-03 01:59:42 AM
Did he shoot the gator's eye out?

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2009-10-03 02:07:40 AM
"Population control" is not "hunting".

Neither is baiting deer.
 
2009-10-03 02:12:56 AM
Ahh I love threads full of self rightous twats pewling about their self rightous speculation about what shooting an animal is or what guns will do to a kid and what not.. STFU and eat yer veggie burger while wearing your ironic t-shirt and sitting on your futon watching tv.. the rest of us will live in the real world.. and when the zombie apocolypse comes we'll be the ones alive and you'll be lunch
 
2009-10-03 02:15:19 AM
What does and does not qualify as the real world, exactly?
 
2009-10-03 02:19:05 AM
Prospero424: Yeah, I actually don't even miss the hunting so much, though I still like to go shooting every once in a while. It's mostly having that much land to do whatever the hell I wanted on that I miss. Camping is great, and I go as often as I can, but most of the time you're not even allowed to build a fire in public parks, no matter how careful you are.

I don't care about the hunting part, my adventures into the woods were limited to special occasions and the farmland surrounding our house. I can navigate a cornfield like no one else and know how to how to walk a field of beans and clear it of weeds. It's the freedom and real "wild" I envy. Our house was on the outskirts of town so I had limited "wander the land" exposure, I envy your ability to have it.

Opossums and the occasional skunk or raccoon were all the wildlife I really got to see, all we could ever fish were stocked lakes with catfish and small mouth and rainbow bass too small to keep, so let me have my moment of what might've been.
 
2009-10-03 02:19:54 AM
Korzine: That's not so bad. I lived there when Billy Ray released Achy Breaky Heart. So that's the song that jumps into my head when I think about El Paso.

Fortunately, being a Weird Al fan, I just replace the lyrics and the song's fun again...

First verse!

You can torture me
With Donnie and Marie
You can play some Barry Manilow
Or you can play some shlock
Like New Kids on the Block
Or any Village People song you know
Or play Vanilla Ice
Hey, you can play him twice
And you can play the Bee Gees any day
But Mr. DJ please
I'm beggin on my knees
I can't take no more of Billy Ray

Don't play that song
That Achy Breaky song
The most annoying song I know
And if you play that song
That Achy Breaky song
I might blow up my radio (ooooo)

Good stuff!
 
2009-10-03 02:44:52 AM
I searched for it, and I don't think anybody has posted this:

Link (new window)
 
2009-10-03 02:48:31 AM
Mija: I guess in your world teaching children their constitutional rightd mean nothing and they should live as a helpless victim is more American. Maybe it's more American to to let your kid roam around on your alligator infested property and be eaten.

The personal "Constitutional Right" was only acknowledged within the past two or three years, I forget the case but it's a new development. I'm incredibly liberal, I favor gun control, I also favor hunting and the ability to conceal-carry.

However, I note that you ascribe ideas/thoughts to an alligator that just don't hold up. Through either anecdotal evidence from this thread or real evidence from gator attack statistics, being "eaten" by a gator isn't something that routinely happens.

Your fail is so great I hope you're just a stupid troll, otherwise I suggest you attempt psychological help, really why are you so angry about things that don't affect you in any way shape or form?
 
2009-10-03 02:58:59 AM
ProdigalSigh: Mija: I guess in your world teaching children their constitutional rightd mean nothing and they should live as a helpless victim is more American. Maybe it's more American to to let your kid roam around on your alligator infested property and be eaten.

The personal "Constitutional Right" was only acknowledged within the past two or three years, I forget the case but it's a new development. I'm incredibly liberal, I favor gun control, I also favor hunting and the ability to conceal-carry.

However, I note that you ascribe ideas/thoughts to an alligator that just don't hold up. Through either anecdotal evidence from this thread or real evidence from gator attack statistics, being "eaten" by a gator isn't something that routinely happens.

Your fail is so great I hope you're just a stupid troll, otherwise I suggest you attempt psychological help, really why are you so angry about things that don't affect you in any way shape or form?


Your shiat's all retarded and you talk like a fag.
 
2009-10-03 03:42:48 AM
FTFA:The youngster showed no fear. "I wasn't even afraid," Simon told a KTRE-TV reporter. "It's pretty much simple. I got my gun out and shot him."

This frightens me more than the psycho picture. When confronted with something that is 10X bigger than you are, you should be alittle scared, even if it was on a line. Noticed Dad didn't waste any time making sure - bet he was alittle scared, even if his kid is too much the fool or psycho to be.
 
2009-10-03 04:13:02 AM
T-Luv: farm1.static.flickr.com
Approves!


The chubby asshole in this pic shot that pig 8 times over the course of 3 1/12 hours during a canned hunt. I hope he gets gored and eaten during his one.
 
2009-10-03 04:16:48 AM
BuzzBoy: The only "Junior Shotgun" I can think of is a .410 Snakecharmer, he must have used buckshot.

I don't think a .410 would've penetrated the hide at all, even with a slug. "Junior shotgun" can also mean a 20 gauge with a shortened stock (generally by about an inch) to better fit younger shooters.
 
2009-10-03 04:21:34 AM
Kalashinator: I hope he gets gored and eaten during his nextone.

ftfm
 
2009-10-03 04:50:05 AM
randomstranger: ProdigalSigh: Mija: Through either anecdotal evidence from this thread or real evidence from gator attack statistics, being "eaten" by a gator isn't something that routinely happens.


Of course not, even a 5 year old can kill one.
 
2009-10-03 07:21:47 AM
Aulus: When I was about 11 or 12, the Boy Scout troop I was in was at Myakka State Park, east of Sarasota, FL. A bunch of us kids got it into our heads it would really be a super cool idea to whittle spears out of palmetto frond spines and try to spear an 8' alligator in the river.

Fortunately for us, the 'gator just gave us a look of "Are you just farking stupid, or what?" before he swam off after our attack.

We were damn lucky we were not on his lunch menu that day.

Lord of the Flies
, anyone?
 
2009-10-03 07:56:19 AM
blog.silive.com
Approves.


/kilt him a bar when he was only 3
 
2009-10-03 08:15:04 AM
Has anybody else noticed that while a 5 year old did the deed, you need to be at least 13 to legally comment on the news story?
 
2009-10-03 08:27:56 AM
Because I'm sure an alligator in the water was real threatening.

I've watched enough Croc Hunter, they're not terribly dangerous to land animals that aren't retarded. If you know enough to not hand out at the water's edge, they've got no interest.

Of course, these are Texans, and I'll take a pronghorn's over any Texan in a spelling bee.
 
2009-10-03 08:38:46 AM
Child accidentally kills himself with machine gun

http://tinyurl.com/ycee5f3
 
2009-10-03 09:36:46 AM
WaywardClam: Has anybody else noticed that while a 5 year old did the deed, you need to be at least 13 to legally comment on the news story?

Well, that makes sense.

Five-year-olds probably can't type or spell very well. Their grammar and usage is a little off, and their responses would probably be off-the-cuff and irrational.

/Oh, wait
 
2009-10-03 09:39:51 AM
Kalashinator: BuzzBoy: The only "Junior Shotgun" I can think of is a .410 Snakecharmer, he must have used buckshot.

I don't think a .410 would've penetrated the hide at all, even with a slug.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

You have no idea wtf you are talking about...
 
2009-10-03 09:50:21 AM
GreenSun: That kid is going to grow up as a bully. I'm sure people will be referring to him as the kid who killed the big alligator when he was just 5 years old. This thought will be instilled in his brain, and he will develop a badass attitude. He will later on despise weaklings and he'll strive to make himself stronger than anyone else. He will then boss around people and get into fights if he's the one being pushed around.

The worse part with this kid is that when he loses to someone stronger than him, his self-esteem will break down, and it is very possible that he will develop a need to prove his power over someone by killing or beating up people.


You're kinda pussy-like, aren't you?
 
2009-10-03 10:28:26 AM
When the reptile surfaced, Simon shot it from about 5 feet away with his junior-sized shotgun, killing it. Just to be certain, Cotton fired another shot with his pistol to make sure it was dead.


Rule #4 - Double tap
 
2009-10-03 10:34:38 AM
Guns.
 
2009-10-03 11:28:07 AM
Loucifer: Some of the Texas toddlers don't even carry a gun. A lotta folks find that hard to believe. Jim Scarborough'd never carry one; that's the younger Jim(age 4). Gaston Boykins wouldn't wear one up in Camanche County. I always liked to hear about the youngsters. Never missed a chance to do so. You can't help but compare yourself against these little tykes. Can't help but wonder how theyd've operated these times.

Haha, is it too late to say nothing is obscure on Fark?

Nice work, though.
 
2009-10-03 11:29:17 AM
Ya'll leave Gator Bait alone now.
 
2009-10-03 12:25:16 PM
Jeez, what a bunch of gun-paranoid chickenshiat pansies this country has turned into.

No wonder Obama is President.
 
2009-10-03 01:22:30 PM
I think that kid successfully proved that humans are smarter than animals, even when they have teeth!
 
2009-10-03 01:31:39 PM
RockIsDead: Jeez, what a bunch of gun-paranoid chickenshiat pansies this country has turned into.

No wonder Obama is President.


Eh, 5 year olds are too young for guns. I don't care if you're Ted Nugent's kid.
 
2009-10-03 02:29:35 PM
A Tout Le Monde: I think that kid successfully proved that humans are smarter than animals, even when they have teeth!

If the kid'd built his own gun, I'd totally agreed.
 
2009-10-03 02:39:11 PM
A Tout Le Monde: RockIsDead: Jeez, what a bunch of gun-paranoid chickenshiat pansies this country has turned into.

No wonder Obama is President.

Eh, 5 year olds are too young for guns. I don't care if you're Ted Nugent's kid.


Why? Takes too much time away from their anal sex-ed classes?
 
2009-10-03 05:17:33 PM
I wonder if the kid's parents spend as much time teaching him to read as they do teaching him to hunt.
 
2009-10-03 06:33:18 PM
its coming strait at us
 
2009-10-03 09:33:33 PM
Expected the Gary Larson The Far Side cartoon of the Mammoth and Cavemen
//left disapointed
 
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