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(The Consumerist)   Coming soon to a Borders near you, free Wi-Fi. Well, great, that's what we need more of in our bookstores: cheap hippies with laptops drinking coffee and discussing the importance of Keroauc. Goddammit so much   (consumerist.com) divider line 306
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2009-10-01 12:54:55 PM  
People still buy books in stores?

/Kindle
//E-tailing
///Yes I am hipper than you
////No, I can't stand me, either
 
2009-10-01 12:56:12 PM  
Sounds like subby would fit in better at a Wal-Mart.
 
2009-10-01 12:56:20 PM  
TheSignPost: I sit in coffee shops and work on my laptop. WTF is wrong with that? I have a mobile job. I also always buy something, which is more than I can say for most people that sit in coffee shops.



I have my reasons. If you happen to not conform to my particular reasons, then that's fine, good for you, no harm no foul. But I generally find that people who are sitting in a coffee shop on a laptop to "work" are not there to "work" but are there for the attention, or at the very least to be distracted from their "work" so that they don't have to do it, and then complain about never having time to do any work.

And then end up working in the coffee shop, because they like being there soooo much.

My opinion only. Slightly bitter taste in my mouth about the issue. But, like I said, if that's not your vibe, then fine.


This. There is a cafe/coffee shop by my house that has a wine and beer license. They were one of the only places in town to get Surly Coffee Bender a few years ago. I went there with a couple friends to get beers, and every table, 2-top, 4-top, etc. was being used by a solitary, coffee drinking person using a laptop. When we asked some of the people if they could possibly consolidate, they got pissed and huffy. I should also note that it looked like most of those people were either dicking around on Myspace or Facebook.
 
2009-10-01 12:56:24 PM  
ChickenTits: I'm apparently one of those rare assholes that doesn't really like Kerouac that much.

The English Major: Unless one of Keroauc's books is propping up a piece of furniture on an uneven floor, there is no importance to it.

Thank you thank you thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou
Kerouac's books are such complete shiate - whiny, self-absorbed, useless youth does nothing interesting and then writes a book about it. Hoo-farking-ray.
 
2009-10-01 12:57:10 PM  
sxacho: A couple years ago, my wife started going to a local coffeeshop to work on her laptop. However, there is a reason. We have kind of a small house and there's nowhere else for her to go where our son(s) won't be bugging her every 5 minutes. It's either the kids need to leave or she does.

/at least that's what she tells me


I'm pretty sure it's the brooding, mysterious philosophy major pouring her coffee.
 
2009-10-01 12:57:28 PM  
Brown Sauce: IgG4: I'm gonna go there and use their WiFi to order stuff off of Amazon.com

This.


Is that Bubbles from Trailer Park Boys?
 
2009-10-01 12:59:12 PM  
Barbigazi: ...they just want to SEEM like the read.

Why so angry?
 
2009-10-01 12:59:55 PM  
Free wifi?

Great. Free woodpecker system to confuse your brain clock.
Apparently European countries are becoming very aware of what I speak of.
America not so much.

This is the sound of WIFI. This is the signal your mind is bathing in. This may be perceived as junk science for 20 more years, depending on how long the companies want to continue making money doing things this way.

Wifi Signal audible (new window)

Science is fun.
 
2009-10-01 01:01:05 PM  
KernLead: A Borders, eh? Don't forget no toilet paper in the stalls and urine all over the bathroom floor.

You have ZeroCorpse to thank for that. ;~)
 
2009-10-01 01:03:24 PM  
ZeroCorpse: nd reading them on my Kindle. Frankly, I hope Amazon buries the retail chain bookstores, just like Netflix has buried Blockbuster. (Mom & pop stores should be able to keep going, though, once the big guys are gone.)

So much THIS.

In DC there are two independent bookstores I absolutely love. (Actually only one now thanks to the big chains...) But the one that's still around is near Easter Market. If you're ever in the city, and you love books, definitely check it out. Wall upon wall of books, a crazy filing system (the religious right books are in the basement, next to books on the Klan), and fun self-deprecating notes throughout...

YAY
 
2009-10-01 01:03:34 PM  
luckcat: I went there with a couple friends to get beers, and every table, 2-top, 4-top, etc. was being used by a solitary, coffee drinking person using a laptop. When we asked some of the people if they could possibly consolidate, they got pissed and huffy. I should also note that it looked like most of those people were either dicking around on Myspace or Facebook.

think of the psychological gymnastics it takes to pull off: "i go to public places and sit by myself in order to socialize with others on my internet social networking sites".

then again, maybe it's not that tough at all.
 
2009-10-01 01:03:54 PM  
On The Road, Dharma Bums, and Big Sur were all good books and worthy of reading. You can complain about Kerouacs writing style all you want, it doesn't change the fact that these were influential books and deserve the attention they receive.
 
2009-10-01 01:04:29 PM  
newton: This is the sound of WIFI. This is the signal your mind is bathing in. This may be perceived as junk science for 20 more years, depending on how long the companies want to continue making money doing things this way.

Oh, you mean like all those other signals, such as the NIST atomic clock signal, no less than 6 radio stations on different bands, god-only-knows how many different kinds of cellphone traffic, shortwave, etc...

Somehow, we still survive.

/farking conspiracy nutjob..
 
2009-10-01 01:05:46 PM  
Martin Silenus: But in all honesty, local book stores blow pretty hard. The selection is awful; browsing is usually discouraged, and most of the time one can't drink there.

And let's face it, as FARKers that's really the tipping point.

/or should I say "tippling point?"
 
2009-10-01 01:07:16 PM  
When I was in college I often studied my cute little butt off. Study partners always, always wanted to go to study at coffee shops. I don't get the appeal. Besides the fact that I hate coffee and always ended up smelling like it at the end of the study session, those shops are always cramped, noisy, and I felt like I was taking someone else's seat. No fun.

/I would study at a Border's though
 
2009-10-01 01:09:12 PM  
Grandemadaca: floor9: Go support your local used bookstore, THEN you can look down your nose at others.

Shopping at any local used bookstore I've ever been in gives NO ONE the right to look down the nose at others.

Aisle after aisle of romance novels and Stephen King tomes.
Nonfiction is mainly craft books and cookbooks that came free with a new microwave.


I once wandered into a used bookstore like that in Oklahoma. It made me very sad, until I found, tucked in the back, on an apparently "miscellaneous" shelf, an 1890 leatherbound Beowulf that was so pristine that most of the sheets had never been slit. I bought it for $13.
 
2009-10-01 01:09:20 PM  
Forget Kerouac or Bukowski, let's talk about Raymond Carver
 
2009-10-01 01:09:36 PM  
Martin Silenus
Granted, I'm a self-loathing hipster douchebag, as I hate those of my generation who feel the need to debate loudly over their $5 lates the merits of Proust, the beauty of "Lost in the Funhouse," etc. The cynic in me assumes they're just flaunting their meager stores of literary knowledge, and that makes me stabby.

Maybe it's just something they discovered recently and they're into it. So surprise, they want to talk about it with their friends. That doesn't make them showoffs "flaunting" their knowledge. Damn cynic.

sboyle1020
Ugh, Starbucks is worse than any bookstore. You have the people sitting in the window with their laptop trying to look important when in reality they're playing minesweeper.

Speaking of cynics...
Maybe the guy with the laptop by the window just likes to sit there and people watch a bit instead of sitting at home playing Minesweeper by himself. Who cares what he's doing on his laptop? Why would you assume he's "trying to look important"? I don't think the guy hanging out at Starbucks is the one taking himself too seriously.

what_now
I've read PLENTY of "crap" books. I love Stephen King. I've read those "Twilight" abortions. I've read Nora Roberts novels. I once even tried one of those "Left Behind" books. I would NEVER look down on what someone's reading. It's childish and stupid. Read whatever the hell you want.

In general I agree, but I read one of those "Left Behind" books and cannot help but look down on them. They're terrible. My expectations aren't that high. I realize many books are simply written to be entertaining. That's mostly what I read so I can't look down on that. But seriously, the "Left Behind" books are farking awful.
 
2009-10-01 01:12:17 PM  
farkwell: Barbigazi: ...they just want to SEEM like the read.

Why so angry?


Sometimes I drop letters off the end of words, I have no idea why. Only happens on fark though...
 
2009-10-01 01:12:42 PM  
I use the free wi-fi at the Barnes & Noble in our town. Saving $50 per month that I no longer cough up to Comcast. So I'm getting a kick outta this...yada yada yada.
 
2009-10-01 01:13:20 PM  
sboyle1020
Ugh, Starbucks is worse than any bookstore. You have the people sitting in the window with their laptop trying to look important when in reality they're playing minesweeper.

Speaking of cynics...
Maybe the guy with the laptop by the window just likes to sit there and people watch a bit instead of sitting at home playing Minesweeper by himself. Who cares what he's doing on his laptop? Why would you assume he's "trying to look important"? I don't think the guy hanging out at Starbucks is the one taking himself too seriously.


Aww Patrick, don't worry...that novel will work itself out eventually. Just keep drinking those Vanilla Latte's.
 
2009-10-01 01:14:20 PM  
TsukasaK newton: This is the sound of WIFI. This is the signal your mind is bathing in. This may be perceived as junk science for 20 more years, depending on how long the companies want to continue making money doing things this way.

Oh, you mean like all those other signals, such as the NIST atomic clock signal, no less than 6 radio stations on different bands, god-only-knows how many different kinds of cellphone traffic, shortwave, etc...

Somehow, we still survive.

/farking conspiracy nutjob..



It's

more

plausable

than

you

think

/not a tin-foil-hatter
//just a lover of good ol' fashioned science
 
2009-10-01 01:14:43 PM  
I agree. I hate it when people go to book stores and do things related to literature.
 
2009-10-01 01:15:09 PM  
o5iiawah: M.K. Rawlings

I *love* Harry Potter!
 
2009-10-01 01:16:08 PM  
Dances-With-Lobster: I agree. I hate it when people go to book stores and do things related to literature.

Surfing the net and going to their Facebook page? Yeah, enlightened.
 
2009-10-01 01:16:27 PM  
Ringtailed79: HotWingConspiracy: I'm so confused. When did hippies get laptops and start going to book stores?

Dumbassmitter confuses hipster with hippies


What exactly is a "hipster"? I was at my brothers wedding and he hangs with a very blue collar/meth crowd. The wedding was at a lake and one of his friends commented that the location was ideal because it was far from the "damn hipsters".

Then he looked at me like I might be one....
 
Puh
2009-10-01 01:16:52 PM  
At least they are talking about Kerouac and not Brad Meltzer



or heaven forbid Dan Brown

=)
 
2009-10-01 01:17:51 PM  
What an age we live in! They have the internet in wireless form now? And in a bookstore! This is revolutionary. Surely Borders will be overrun by hordes of high-tech geeks and inbred white tralier trash seeking their first glimpse of a website. Godspeed.
 
2009-10-01 01:17:52 PM  
oldebayer: KernLead: A Borders, eh? Don't forget no toilet paper in the stalls and urine all over the bathroom floor.

You have ZeroCorpse to thank for that. ;~)


Our location didn't have a public restroom for exactly that reason. People are pigs when it's not their bathroom.
 
2009-10-01 01:17:54 PM  
sboyle1020
Aww Patrick, don't worry...that novel will work itself out eventually. Just keep drinking those Vanilla Latte's.

I'm not a writer and don't hang out in coffee shops. I just don't give a shiat if other people do and don't assume they have self-important motives for doing so.

newton
This is the sound of WIFI. This is the signal your mind is bathing in. This may be perceived as junk science for 20 more years, depending on how long the companies want to continue making money doing things this way.

Wifi Signal audible (new window)


Time is a cube with four equal sides. You have been educated stupid.

Science is fun.
 
2009-10-01 01:20:29 PM  
They've had this at the Borders around here as long as I can remember, and there are quite a bunch of quasi intellectual people sitting around and slurping coffee loudly whilst occasionally comparing screens on their laptop. They talk in voices just loud enough to distract you from your damn book. It's why I don't sit there and read anymore.
 
2009-10-01 01:20:33 PM  
jst3p: What exactly is a "hipster"?


It really depends on who's using the term. Most of the time it means people who don't like mainstream shiat. Who dress different or like things that regular people call "pretentious." Likely these hipsters will grow up to become "elitists" and eat arugula.
 
2009-10-01 01:21:09 PM  
Ringtailed79: HotWingConspiracy: I'm so confused. When did hippies get laptops and start going to book stores?

Dumbassmitter confuses hipster with hippies


And I guess that explains the Kerouac reference. I couldn't figure out why hippies would talk about Kerouac.

But real hipsters would only mention Kerouac in passing. He's not obscure enough to give you any literary cred.
 
2009-10-01 01:22:36 PM  
jst3p: Ringtailed79: HotWingConspiracy: I'm so confused. When did hippies get laptops and start going to book stores?

Dumbassmitter confuses hipster with hippies

What exactly is a "hipster"? I was at my brothers wedding and he hangs with a very blue collar/meth crowd. The wedding was at a lake and one of his friends commented that the location was ideal because it was far from the "damn hipsters".

Then he looked at me like I might be one....


Only hipsters biatch about hipsters.
 
2009-10-01 01:22:43 PM  
TsukasaK:
Oh, you mean like all those other signals, such as the NIST atomic clock signal, no less than 6 radio stations on different bands, god-only-knows how many different kinds of cellphone traffic, shortwave, etc...
/farking conspiracy nutjob..


No not at all dumb shiat, those are all
on lower frequencies, minus the cellphones.

C-NET Article... FOR mr know it none.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-10351577-266.html (new window)

I know your opinions are stronger than Earth's facts.
 
2009-10-01 01:23:59 PM  
I thought all of the "intellects " that hang out at bookstores were just looking for a hand job under the bathroom stall?
 
2009-10-01 01:24:19 PM  
jst3p: What exactly is a "hipster"

what hipsters may look like:

ipod nano commercial (new window)
 
2009-10-01 01:24:31 PM  
oldebayer
You have ZeroCorpse to thank for that. ;~)

Damn. The dude gets around.
 
2009-10-01 01:24:35 PM  
Blowmonkey: jst3p: What exactly is a "hipster"?


It really depends on who's using the term. Most of the time it means people who don't like mainstream shiat. Who dress different or like things that regular people call "pretentious." Likely these hipsters will grow up to become "elitists" and eat arugula.


Interesting, I would consider taking a laptop to a bookstore and drinking coffee to be pretty mainstream shiat.
 
2009-10-01 01:25:14 PM  
Peter_B_Risen: I thought all of the "intellects " that hang out at bookstores were just looking for a hand job under the bathroom stall?

You got tricked didn't you?
 
2009-10-01 01:26:00 PM  
Rapmaster2000: jst3p: Ringtailed79: HotWingConspiracy: I'm so confused. When did hippies get laptops and start going to book stores?

Dumbassmitter confuses hipster with hippies

What exactly is a "hipster"? I was at my brothers wedding and he hangs with a very blue collar/meth crowd. The wedding was at a lake and one of his friends commented that the location was ideal because it was far from the "damn hipsters".

Then he looked at me like I might be one....

Only hipsters biatch about hipsters.


I don't know, this guy was a wife beater wearing, shaved head, meth-using type. And it was pretty clear that he really hated "hipsters". I think he hates anyone that makes decent coin.
 
2009-10-01 01:26:12 PM  
Blowmonkey: On The Road, Dharma Bums, and Big Sur were all good books and worthy of reading. You can complain about Kerouacs writing style all you want, it doesn't change the fact that these were influential books andthat deserve far lessthe attention than they receive.

FTFY
 
2009-10-01 01:27:02 PM  
Sue.Doe.Nym: FTFY

No, it was right the first time.
 
2009-10-01 01:28:17 PM  
TheSignPost: People that sit in coffee shops with their laptops "working" are the worst sort of people.

/ Lit major


What do you imagine them to be doing that makes them the "worst sort of people" ? I'm intrigued.
 
2009-10-01 01:28:56 PM  
grimnir: TheSignPost: People that sit in coffee shops with their laptops "working" are the worst sort of people.

/ Lit major

What do you imagine them to be doing that makes them the "worst sort of people" ? I'm intrigued.


I was wondering the same.
 
2009-10-01 01:29:09 PM  
jst3p: Rapmaster2000: jst3p: Ringtailed79: HotWingConspiracy: I'm so confused. When did hippies get laptops and start going to book stores?

Dumbassmitter confuses hipster with hippies

What exactly is a "hipster"? I was at my brothers wedding and he hangs with a very blue collar/meth crowd. The wedding was at a lake and one of his friends commented that the location was ideal because it was far from the "damn hipsters".

Then he looked at me like I might be one....

Only hipsters biatch about hipsters.

I don't know, this guy was a wife beater wearing, shaved head, meth-using type. And it was pretty clear that he really hated "hipsters". I think he hates anyone that makes decent coin.


There's a large branch of blue collar hipsters, similar in look to the rockabilly crowd. Since both groups hang at dive bars, have tattoos, drink cheap beer and listen to similar music (punk and psychobilly) they tend to look very similar.

Every hipster will tell you that they hate hipsters.
 
2009-10-01 01:31:38 PM  
Rapmaster2000: jst3p: Rapmaster2000: jst3p: Ringtailed79: HotWingConspiracy: I'm so confused. When did hippies get laptops and start going to book stores?

Dumbassmitter confuses hipster with hippies

What exactly is a "hipster"? I was at my brothers wedding and he hangs with a very blue collar/meth crowd. The wedding was at a lake and one of his friends commented that the location was ideal because it was far from the "damn hipsters".

Then he looked at me like I might be one....

Only hipsters biatch about hipsters.

I don't know, this guy was a wife beater wearing, shaved head, meth-using type. And it was pretty clear that he really hated "hipsters". I think he hates anyone that makes decent coin.

There's a large branch of blue collar hipsters, similar in look to the rockabilly crowd. Since both groups hang at dive bars, have tattoos, drink cheap beer and listen to similar music (punk and psychobilly) they tend to look very similar.

Every hipster will tell you that they hate hipsters.


Sounds like a fascinating sub-culture!
 
2009-10-01 01:31:58 PM  
jst3p: Rapmaster2000: jst3p: Ringtailed79: HotWingConspiracy: I'm so confused. When did hippies get laptops and start going to book stores?

Dumbassmitter confuses hipster with hippies

What exactly is a "hipster"? I was at my brothers wedding and he hangs with a very blue collar/meth crowd. The wedding was at a lake and one of his friends commented that the location was ideal because it was far from the "damn hipsters".

Then he looked at me like I might be one....

Only hipsters biatch about hipsters.

I don't know, this guy was a wife beater wearing, shaved head, meth-using type. And it was pretty clear that he really hated "hipsters". I think he hates anyone that makes decent coin.


I'll add that while in Brooklyn the hipsters may be stereotyped as rich, that certainly isn't the case in the South. I've known a few truck driving hipsters. It's an attitude and a look. It's not an income.
 
2009-10-01 01:33:37 PM  
ZeroCorpse: I knew our store was in trouble when they moved the African American Literature section to the back of the store in order to make more room for manga (mostly Yaoi).

Yes. They moved the section for Black people to the back of the store. You can imagine how well this was received by the Black community. This was a district management order, and it had to be done because some people "complained" about the African American section being near the front of the store (apparently, the titles were "too racy." Yes; "Too racy." Their words.)


When I worked at a bookstore, we moved the African American lit section to the FRONT of the store.
But that's because in any other section it was too easy for people to steal entire shelves full of books when nobody was looking. I wish I could say I was making this up...
 
2009-10-01 01:33:42 PM  
The English Major:
My girlfriend and I were watching TV last night, and a commercial for Sony's new e-reader came on. She said, "Do you want one of those for Christmas?" I said no. She then asked if I wanted a Kindle. I told her it didn't seem right, reading a book on a device like that. I prefer good old hardcovers.

/and yes, I dislike Keroauc
//but I enjoy Joseph Heller and Virginia Woolf
///not a hippy


I have the new sony reader, nifty device but a bit more glare than I would like. However, since I need to read while on the subway, holding on to the rails with one hand, the touch screen is invaluable and more than makes up for the glare.

I'm also half-way through "On The Road" (felt like I needed to find out what all the hoopla was about). It's actually pretty good. I don't think I'm going to walk away from it having my mind blown, but so far I don't regret picking it up.
 
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