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2009-10-01 01:31:14 AM  

alostpacket: I think we can all agree that we need a Fark History Month. It should be in Febumarchtober.


Be careful of the lousy Smarch weather though.
 
2009-10-01 01:32:25 AM  

Sabyen91: Jim_Callahan: "Hispanic Heritage Month" is a stupid idea anyway, it describes such a broad range of ancestries that it really has no meaning culturally due to meaning a bit of everything culturally. It's like having a "white history month".

//While Black history month is stupid for a different set of reasons, at least it describes a distinct subculture with real historical reasons to care.

Huh? Black doesn't describe a broad range of ancestries? WTF?


He probably meant "African=American" culture, which is distinct from various black cultures from Africa to the Caribbean. Then again, the SW has an obvious Chicano culture and the east coast has an obvious Cuban and Peurto Rican culture.
 
2009-10-01 01:33:09 AM  

Dreadful Peanut: Sabyen91: Mrstupid7: Quick question, and it doesn't matter if it is off topic as this is the politics tab and nothing here is really ever on topic. Is there a socialist hybrid party that isn't communism in disguise? The democratic party keeps showing itself to be republican-lite and I don't think I can really keep voting for the any more.

/the national libertarians are anarchists in disguise so no on that

How about voting your conscience? I am lucky in that my Democratic Senators and my Democratic Rep are all solid to outstanding in my view (Feingold opposing cap and trade is pissing me off though). If I had assholes like Baucus and the Nelson brothers I would be voting (and volunteering) for an actual progressive in the Democratic Party or Green Party. Vote for who is the closest to your views.

In a close districts, though, you have to consider the practical ramification of your action. You do not want to split the vote and get even worse guy (or gal) in.


I live in Virginia Foxx' district...
 
2009-10-01 01:34:34 AM  

Kierkegaard's Pseudonym:
So it's like Black History Month?


Not really. The 'black' in black history month isn't referring to every black person in the world or even the US, it's referring to the subset of the US population whose breaking out of enslavement and segregation represented a major victory for modern civil rights. It's theoretically more about a part of our history (as in, the history of the entire US) than a skin color.

"Hispanic", on the other hand, isn't even a real race, it's a made-up catch-all for people too lazy to keep track of the south American countries and who colonized which. And none of 'em really mark a major shift in US policy in the way the black civil rights movement did.

//That said, again, Black History Month is still stupid, it's just less stupid than this nonsense.
 
2009-10-01 01:34:59 AM  

Dreadful Peanut: Sabyen91: Mrstupid7: Quick question, and it doesn't matter if it is off topic as this is the politics tab and nothing here is really ever on topic. Is there a socialist hybrid party that isn't communism in disguise? The democratic party keeps showing itself to be republican-lite and I don't think I can really keep voting for the any more.

/the national libertarians are anarchists in disguise so no on that

How about voting your conscience? I am lucky in that my Democratic Senators and my Democratic Rep are all solid to outstanding in my view (Feingold opposing cap and trade is pissing me off though). If I had assholes like Baucus and the Nelson brothers I would be voting (and volunteering) for an actual progressive in the Democratic Party or Green Party. Vote for who is the closest to your views.

In a close districts, though, you have to consider the practical ramification of your action. You do not want to split the vote and get even worse guy (or gal) in.


Yeah, the Nader effect (not sure why anybody would vote for that hypocrite anyway)
 
2009-10-01 01:37:27 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Not really. The 'black' in black history month isn't referring to every black person in the world or even the US, it's referring to the subset of the US population whose breaking out of enslavement and segregation represented a major victory for modern civil rights. It's theoretically more about a part of our history (as in, the history of the entire US) than a skin color.


So all of those people came from the same geographical area, or have such similar features as to be celebrated under one 'black' banner?
 
2009-10-01 01:37:28 AM  

Mrstupid7: Dreadful Peanut: Sabyen91: Mrstupid7: Quick question, and it doesn't matter if it is off topic as this is the politics tab and nothing here is really ever on topic. Is there a socialist hybrid party that isn't communism in disguise? The democratic party keeps showing itself to be republican-lite and I don't think I can really keep voting for the any more.

/the national libertarians are anarchists in disguise so no on that

How about voting your conscience? I am lucky in that my Democratic Senators and my Democratic Rep are all solid to outstanding in my view (Feingold opposing cap and trade is pissing me off though). If I had assholes like Baucus and the Nelson brothers I would be voting (and volunteering) for an actual progressive in the Democratic Party or Green Party. Vote for who is the closest to your views.

In a close districts, though, you have to consider the practical ramification of your action. You do not want to split the vote and get even worse guy (or gal) in.

I live in Virginia Foxx' district...

In April 2009, Foxx expressed opposition to the Matthew Shepard Act, incorrectly claiming that the murder of Matthew Shepard was not a hate crime. While debating the act at the House of Representatives, which was attended by Matthew Shepard's mother, she called the incident a "very unfortunate incident" but also "we know that that young man was killed in the commitment of a robbery. It wasn't because he was gay". She continued that "It's really a hoax that that continues to be used as an excuse for passing [hate crimes] bills".


Jesus Christ, what an obnoxious woman.
 
2009-10-01 01:37:30 AM  

TheJoe03: Sabyen91: Jim_Callahan: "Hispanic Heritage Month" is a stupid idea anyway, it describes such a broad range of ancestries that it really has no meaning culturally due to meaning a bit of everything culturally. It's like having a "white history month".

//While Black history month is stupid for a different set of reasons, at least it describes a distinct subculture with real historical reasons to care.

Huh? Black doesn't describe a broad range of ancestries? WTF?

He probably meant "African=American" culture, which is distinct from various black cultures from Africa to the Caribbean. Then again, the SW has an obvious Chicano culture and the east coast has an obvious Cuban and Peurto Rican culture.


If he hadn't used the word "ancestries" I would see the point. Three cultures still doesn't seem like too much for a whole month.
 
2009-10-01 01:38:22 AM  

Kierkegaard's Pseudonym: Jim_Callahan: Not really. The 'black' in black history month isn't referring to every black person in the world or even the US, it's referring to the subset of the US population whose breaking out of enslavement and segregation represented a major victory for modern civil rights. It's theoretically more about a part of our history (as in, the history of the entire US) than a skin color.

So all of those people came from the same geographical area, or have such similar features as to be celebrated under one 'black' banner?


They all look the same.
 
2009-10-01 01:40:21 AM  
The Sharpies lobby needs to turn up the heat on the GOP.
 
2009-10-01 01:41:23 AM  
i238.photobucket.com

PS. the GIS for Well Bye with safesearch off is... unexpected.

/Why yes, I am new to the internet, why do you ask?
 
2009-10-01 01:42:16 AM  

Kierkegaard's Pseudonym:
So all of those people came from the same geographical area, or have such similar features as to be celebrated under one 'black' banner?


Through the 1960s they were in the US and not allowed to use the same educational resources, social gathering areas, and in some cases public utilities... so, yes.

//I feel fairly confident calling the continental US the "same geographic area" given the ability of folks to travel and media distribution in the 50s and such.
 
2009-10-01 01:44:22 AM  

Dreadful Peanut: Mrstupid7: Dreadful Peanut: Sabyen91: Mrstupid7: Quick question, and it doesn't matter if it is off topic as this is the politics tab and nothing here is really ever on topic. Is there a socialist hybrid party that isn't communism in disguise? The democratic party keeps showing itself to be republican-lite and I don't think I can really keep voting for the any more.

/the national libertarians are anarchists in disguise so no on that

How about voting your conscience? I am lucky in that my Democratic Senators and my Democratic Rep are all solid to outstanding in my view (Feingold opposing cap and trade is pissing me off though). If I had assholes like Baucus and the Nelson brothers I would be voting (and volunteering) for an actual progressive in the Democratic Party or Green Party. Vote for who is the closest to your views.

In a close districts, though, you have to consider the practical ramification of your action. You do not want to split the vote and get even worse guy (or gal) in.

I live in Virginia Foxx' district...

In April 2009, Foxx expressed opposition to the Matthew Shepard Act, incorrectly claiming that the murder of Matthew Shepard was not a hate crime. While debating the act at the House of Representatives, which was attended by Matthew Shepard's mother, she called the incident a "very unfortunate incident" but also "we know that that young man was killed in the commitment of a robbery. It wasn't because he was gay". She continued that "It's really a hoax that that continues to be used as an excuse for passing [hate crimes] bills".

Jesus Christ, what an obnoxious woman.


You don't know the half of it.
(^) She ran her campaign as strong on education (her district includes Appalachian State University), but voted against money for education.
 
2009-10-01 01:46:27 AM  

Mrstupid7: Dreadful Peanut: Mrstupid7: Dreadful Peanut: Sabyen91: Mrstupid7: Quick question, and it doesn't matter if it is off topic as this is the politics tab and nothing here is really ever on topic. Is there a socialist hybrid party that isn't communism in disguise? The democratic party keeps showing itself to be republican-lite and I don't think I can really keep voting for the any more.

/the national libertarians are anarchists in disguise so no on that

How about voting your conscience? I am lucky in that my Democratic Senators and my Democratic Rep are all solid to outstanding in my view (Feingold opposing cap and trade is pissing me off though). If I had assholes like Baucus and the Nelson brothers I would be voting (and volunteering) for an actual progressive in the Democratic Party or Green Party. Vote for who is the closest to your views.

In a close districts, though, you have to consider the practical ramification of your action. You do not want to split the vote and get even worse guy (or gal) in.

I live in Virginia Foxx' district...

In April 2009, Foxx expressed opposition to the Matthew Shepard Act, incorrectly claiming that the murder of Matthew Shepard was not a hate crime. While debating the act at the House of Representatives, which was attended by Matthew Shepard's mother, she called the incident a "very unfortunate incident" but also "we know that that young man was killed in the commitment of a robbery. It wasn't because he was gay". She continued that "It's really a hoax that that continues to be used as an excuse for passing [hate crimes] bills".

Jesus Christ, what an obnoxious woman.

You don't know the half of it. (^) She ran her campaign as strong on education (her district includes Appalachian State University), but voted against money for education.


I think you can safely vote for any primary or general opponent and you will be voting for better.
 
2009-10-01 01:48:50 AM  

Jim_Callahan: //I feel fairly confident calling the continental US the "same geographic area" given the ability of folks to travel and media distribution in the 50s and such.


Black slaves were imported from the continental U.S.?
 
2009-10-01 01:48:50 AM  

Mrstupid7: Dreadful Peanut: Mrstupid7: Dreadful Peanut: Sabyen91: Mrstupid7: Quick question, and it doesn't matter if it is off topic as this is the politics tab and nothing here is really ever on topic. Is there a socialist hybrid party that isn't communism in disguise? The democratic party keeps showing itself to be republican-lite and I don't think I can really keep voting for the any more.

/the national libertarians are anarchists in disguise so no on that

How about voting your conscience? I am lucky in that my Democratic Senators and my Democratic Rep are all solid to outstanding in my view (Feingold opposing cap and trade is pissing me off though). If I had assholes like Baucus and the Nelson brothers I would be voting (and volunteering) for an actual progressive in the Democratic Party or Green Party. Vote for who is the closest to your views.

In a close districts, though, you have to consider the practical ramification of your action. You do not want to split the vote and get even worse guy (or gal) in.

I live in Virginia Foxx' district...

In April 2009, Foxx expressed opposition to the Matthew Shepard Act, incorrectly claiming that the murder of Matthew Shepard was not a hate crime. While debating the act at the House of Representatives, which was attended by Matthew Shepard's mother, she called the incident a "very unfortunate incident" but also "we know that that young man was killed in the commitment of a robbery. It wasn't because he was gay". She continued that "It's really a hoax that that continues to be used as an excuse for passing [hate crimes] bills".

Jesus Christ, what an obnoxious woman.

You don't know the half of it. (^) She ran her campaign as strong on education (her district includes Appalachian State University), but voted against money for education.


This woman's voting history is like a stereotypical rightwing GOP.

Wasn't she a college professor? It seems very odd that she is so down-the-line conservative.
 
2009-10-01 01:48:55 AM  

Sabyen91: Mrstupid7: Dreadful Peanut: Mrstupid7: Dreadful Peanut: Sabyen91: Mrstupid7: Quick question, and it doesn't matter if it is off topic as this is the politics tab and nothing here is really ever on topic. Is there a socialist hybrid party that isn't communism in disguise? The democratic party keeps showing itself to be republican-lite and I don't think I can really keep voting for the any more.

/the national libertarians are anarchists in disguise so no on that

How about voting your conscience? I am lucky in that my Democratic Senators and my Democratic Rep are all solid to outstanding in my view (Feingold opposing cap and trade is pissing me off though). If I had assholes like Baucus and the Nelson brothers I would be voting (and volunteering) for an actual progressive in the Democratic Party or Green Party. Vote for who is the closest to your views.

In a close districts, though, you have to consider the practical ramification of your action. You do not want to split the vote and get even worse guy (or gal) in.

I live in Virginia Foxx' district...

In April 2009, Foxx expressed opposition to the Matthew Shepard Act, incorrectly claiming that the murder of Matthew Shepard was not a hate crime. While debating the act at the House of Representatives, which was attended by Matthew Shepard's mother, she called the incident a "very unfortunate incident" but also "we know that that young man was killed in the commitment of a robbery. It wasn't because he was gay". She continued that "It's really a hoax that that continues to be used as an excuse for passing [hate crimes] bills".

Jesus Christ, what an obnoxious woman.

You don't know the half of it. (^) She ran her campaign as strong on education (her district includes Appalachian State University), but voted against money for education.

I think you can safely vote for any primary or general opponent and you will be voting for better.


I dunno, it's rural mountain country. Probably a couple of white supremacist groups running.
 
2009-10-01 01:50:28 AM  

I think you can safely vote for any primary or general opponent and you will be voting for better.


You could vote for Peanuts the Rape Monkey and he would cause lest problems.
 
2009-10-01 01:51:20 AM  

Mrstupid7: I dunno, it's rural mountain country. Probably a couple of white supremacist groups running.


I used to think northern WI was backward...
 
2009-10-01 01:51:58 AM  

Tigger: I think you can safely vote for any primary or general opponent and you will be voting for better.

You could vote for Peanuts the Rape Monkey and he would cause lest problems.


You didn't say rape twice.

/Disappointed
 
2009-10-01 01:52:05 AM  

Kierkegaard's Pseudonym: Jim_Callahan: //I feel fairly confident calling the continental US the "same geographic area" given the ability of folks to travel and media distribution in the 50s and such.

Black slaves were imported from the continental U.S.?


Their original identities were suppressed and in large part eradicated. In their places, new identities unique to American Continent were planted. The current African-American culture in large part is still rooted in this transplanted identity. So I think it is acceptable to regard U.S. African-American culture as being distinct and different from African cultures.
 
2009-10-01 02:42:37 AM  
Despite being progressive social justice warriors, my friends and I still go to KFC every year on the last day of Black History month.
 
2009-10-01 02:44:51 AM  

Joliet_Jake: Despite being progressive social justice warriors, my friends and I still go to KFC every year on the last day of Black History month.


KFC is the attractive and successful Caucasian-American's fried chicken joint. You guys should be going to Popeye's
 
2009-10-01 02:49:27 AM  
RockIsDead: If color doesn't matter why does the Left keep bringing it up?

TheJoe03: Race drives America in case you didn't notice.


Race drives liberals, you mean...

i37.tinypic.com


/without a country divided and hyphenated by race, the democrat party would collapse
 
2009-10-01 02:51:34 AM  


Race drives liberals, you mean...


In much the same way that liberals drive you. Disappointingly they drive you to shiat in your own mouth and then post on the internet.
 
2009-10-01 02:54:58 AM  

Tigger: In much the same way that liberals drive you. Disappointingly they drive you to shiat in your own mouth and then post on the internet.


Hahahahahahahha, oh wow. Have a nice big cup of STFU, Gato Negro.
 
2009-10-01 02:57:18 AM  

Dreadful Peanut: I would argue that there is a distinct cultural and historical heritage for Central and South America, plus Mexico that is distinct enough from the mainstream American culture.


People just want to know. What is "mainstream American culture"?
 
2009-10-01 03:06:08 AM  

Gato Negro: RockIsDead: If color doesn't matter why does the Left keep bringing it up?

TheJoe03: Race drives America in case you didn't notice.


Race drives liberals, you mean...

/without a country divided and hyphenated by race, the democrat party would collapse


No. As a land of immigrants, the issue of race drives America. Funny a Right Winger complains of the divisiveness of liberals. Hasn't the Republican party been based on divisive wedge issues for a couple decades?

Oh wait, I forgot, you aren't serious.
 
2009-10-01 03:12:09 AM  

Kierkegaard's Pseudonym: Jim_Callahan: //I feel fairly confident calling the continental US the "same geographic area" given the ability of folks to travel and media distribution in the 50s and such.

Black slaves were imported from the continental U.S.?


You wouldn't want to do that today. The tariffs on that kind of thing are through the roof.
 
2009-10-01 03:12:21 AM  
TheJoe03: Funny a Right Winger complains of the divisiveness of liberals. Hasn't the Republican party been based on divisive wedge issues for a couple decades?


No.
 
2009-10-01 03:15:22 AM  

TheJoe03: Hasn't the Republican party been based on divisive wedge issues for a couple decades?


And thanks to low overhead and high volume, profiting handsomely, too

img.photobucket.com
 
2009-10-01 03:16:29 AM  

Gato Negro: TheJoe03: Funny a Right Winger complains of the divisiveness of liberals. Hasn't the Republican party been based on divisive wedge issues for a couple decades?


No.


The American Taliban (aka the Religious Right) would like a word with you, Gato. You are requested to report to Dr. Dobson's office as soon as possible.
 
2009-10-01 03:19:39 AM  
/without a country divided and hyphenated by race, the democrat party would collapse

Then why the heck do bootstrappy small government WASP types further divide themselves by listing their ancestry as "American"?
 
2009-10-01 03:20:57 AM  

The American Taliban (aka the Religious Right) would like a word with you, Gato. You are requested to report to Dr. Dobson's office as soon as possible.


It's hardly worth it, after posting the hilarious cartoon he'll be masturbating into a sock by now.

You simply can't argue with anyone who doesn't think that the Republicans have successfully driven supporters to the polls using gay marriage, abortion and gun control. It's Karl Rove, the greatest Republican strategist of all time's, stated strategy.

On the plus side I'm tired and bored and Tokyo so watching the closed head injury victims helps keep me awake.
 
2009-10-01 03:22:32 AM  

GWSuperfan: Joliet_Jake: Despite being progressive social justice warriors, my friends and I still go to KFC every year on the last day of Black History month.

KFC is the attractive and successful Caucasian-American's fried chicken joint. You guys should be going to Popeye'sBojangles or Church's


FTFY. Popeye's is sh*t.
 
2009-10-01 03:24:33 AM  
TheJoe03: Funny a Right Winger complains of the divisiveness of liberals. Hasn't the Republican party been based on divisive wedge issues for a couple decades?

Gato Negro: No.

GWSuperfan: The American Taliban (aka the Religious Right) would like a word with you, Gato.


Sure.

Right after I finish getting lectured by...

i38.tinypic.com

/i.e. the 'african-american' religious left
 
2009-10-01 03:24:40 AM  

RockIsDead: If color doesn't matter why does the Left keep bringing it up?


Wait Hispanic is a color?
 
2009-10-01 03:26:58 AM  
Does this mean Democrats no longer get to celebrate President's Day since Washington was a Whig and Lincoln was a Republican?
 
2009-10-01 03:34:34 AM  

Mr. Anon: Black slaves were imported from the continental U.S.?

You wouldn't want to do that today. The tariffs on that kind of thing are through the roof.


Some ACORN offices can help you with the paperwork for that.
 
2009-10-01 03:35:31 AM  

Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Does this mean Democrats no longer get to celebrate President's Day since Washington was a Whig and Lincoln was a Republican?


Uhh...the Whig party was formed by Henry Clay and John Quincy Adams long after Washington was dead. Washington was a Federalist. But still, no we aren't allowed to celebrate President's Day, except in Massachusetts, where it is honoring JFK too.
 
2009-10-01 03:38:29 AM  

Gato Negro: TheJoe03: Funny a Right Winger complains of the divisiveness of liberals. Hasn't the Republican party been based on divisive wedge issues for a couple decades?


No.


lawl
 
2009-10-01 03:39:18 AM  

Gato Negro: TheJoe03: Funny a Right Winger complains of the divisiveness of liberals. Hasn't the Republican party been based on divisive wedge issues for a couple decades?

Gato Negro: No.

GWSuperfan: The American Taliban (aka the Religious Right) would like a word with you, Gato.


Sure.

Right after I finish getting lectured by...

/i.e. the 'african-american' religious left


Last time I checked, Jesse Jackson and Rev. Wright weren't unilaterally dictating who the Vice Presidential nominee would be to the Democratic Party. Your false equivalence is false.
 
2009-10-01 03:40:03 AM  
You know, maybe it's where I've lived and the circles I've moved in, but I see just as much racial animosity in Democratic voters as Republican voters. Maybe it's different on the national level, but as far as grassroots stuff, the rank and file, it all looks the same to me.

I've also seen tolerance on both sides, for race, sexuality, religion, et cetera.

and most of what I've seen is "false justification", based on a few experiences. Trying to solve the problem with more racism such as affirmative action doesn't help. I realize that much of that isn't in force anymore, nor was it as far reaching as some people thought. But the problem is that perception is reality. If people think that others are getting a bigger piece of the pie because of their skin color, it's going to breed animosity.

Any thoughts?

/wishes there was an instant solution to the problem
//also wishes people would realize it's not a simple "right vs left" issue
 
2009-10-01 03:41:18 AM  
Gato Negro:

So, let me get this straight...

Thinking the fact that Barack Obama is a non-white might be a factor taken into consideration by those who reactively oppose him is insane...

But thinking that Barack Obama is a Kenya-born secret-Muslim anti-Christ with a forged birth certificate who is incapable of human speech when not in the presence of a teleprompter and wishes to establish panels to kill all grandmothers before enslaving the white race is perfectly rational?
 
2009-10-01 03:44:24 AM  

dasqoot: Uhh...the Whig party was formed by Henry Clay and John Quincy Adams long after Washington was dead. Washington was a Federalist.


Oh, my bad.

But does this mean he'd get hanged in Kentucky?
 
2009-10-01 03:47:28 AM  

Mr. Anon: PS. the GIS for Well Bye with safesearch off is... unexpected.

/Why yes, I am new to the internet, why do you ask?



Holy crap! The first result is amputee tentacle porn!!?!?!?!
/fap fap fap
 
2009-10-01 03:51:52 AM  

Goimir: Any thoughts?


I think it might be perfectly normal in our society for the animosity we are seeing now to be happening.

Our country has been one long, huge experiment in pluralism since Jefferson wooed the working poor to vote for him.
 
2009-10-01 04:00:05 AM  
Funny story about Jeb Bush's wife. The word is that since she's so short, when she gets mad at Jeb she's known to climb on a chair so she can look him in the eye and ream him out in Spanish.

Oh, and that time when she got busted for not declaring all of her purchases to customs when she got back from a shopping trip to Paris? Apparently nobody that knows her believes the story that she didn't declare it all because she was afraid to let Jeb know how much she spent, because she's the one who wears the pants in that relationship.
 
2009-10-01 04:17:54 AM  

ilambiquated: RockIsDead: If color doesn't matter why does the Left keep bringing it up?

Wait Hispanic is a color?


Well, if I'm anything to go by, it's two shades lighter than Conan O'Brien.
 
2009-10-01 04:22:09 AM  

Goimir: Trying to solve the problem with more racism such as affirmative action doesn't help. Any thoughts?


A question.

Joe Minority is discriminated against in countless ways. Some are so small they're hardly worth mentioning. Others are fairly significant. One example that springs to mind is the study that showed whites were typically given a lower financing rate on a new car purchase than blacks with the same credit score. Joe Minority also gets a few extra points on his college application based on affirmative action, and suddenly everyone is up in arms about "fairness" and "treating everyone the same regardless of race." Where were you when Joe was being charged a higher rate for his car loan?
 
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