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(Some Guy)   Cheerleaders protest after they're told they can't hang banners with religious quotes at a high school football game. "If it's offensive to anyone, let them go watch another football game"   (timesfreepress.com) divider line 648
    More: Asinine, banners, high school football, cheerleaders, football coach, Mr. Jones, freedom of religion, Dear Leader, U.S. Supreme Court  
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2009-09-29 10:24:34 PM  
lajimi: Maybe I'm at a loss not being a football fan but can someone explain to me....When did "cheerleaders" stop leading cheers and when did they become pole dancers in training?

Since the day cheerleading was created.
 
2009-09-29 10:24:46 PM  
wow, fark.com is quickly becoming a Christian hate-site.

at least most places try to hide it more
 
2009-09-29 10:25:34 PM  
"I rely on reading the Bible daily

I've read the Bible 3 times. I don't understand why you would need to read it every day. What could you possibly glean from daily rereading? You should be reading other things.
 
2009-09-29 10:25:47 PM  
A Cheerleader debating principles? Hilarious. Now stfu and lift up your skirt while you high kick.
 
2009-09-29 10:26:31 PM  
zepplinrules: wow, fark.com is quickly becoming a Christian hate-site.

at least most places try to hide it more


You sound concerned.
 
2009-09-29 10:26:54 PM  
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Jesus probably doesnt even like football. He was from the middle east, so Im thinking he would be a soccer fan.


/soccer = lawn fairies
 
2009-09-29 10:27:37 PM  
This was my high school. I live in Indianapolis now, so it's cool to see it on Fark.

/I liked the sign
 
2009-09-29 10:27:51 PM  
Megain: Lakeview-Ft. Olgethorpe title to the picture
picture taken in front of school sign that says "Lakeview - Fort Oglethorpe


...well, they are cheerleaders. And from north Georgia.

They never had a chance.

To srs, though...yeah, not cool. For one, I couldn't see my heavily Catholic town doing anything like that, even when I was in HS in a heavily parochial conference.

More importantly: Public (government) school, and the cheerleaders are representing the school when they perform. It's a tacit endorsement of religion by the school district of Christianity to display Biblical quotes, which is not okay for anyone to do.

Also, it's not that they don't have First Amendment rights - for example, you can wear religious iconography even while playing sports (within safety - for example, like...one of the top mid-distance runners in NJ when I was in HS was Muslim, and ran in a hijab; I also believe that we were told that we could wear crosses as long as they were taped down). Like I said, though, in the capacity of holding up the pep signs before the game...the sign itself represents the school and not the individual cheerleaders.
 
rpm
2009-09-29 10:28:46 PM  
ipeeintheshower: It's sad that people don't read the Constitution before invoking it.

It's sad that people don't read the precedents (mentioned in TFA even) that give the reasoning.
 
2009-09-29 10:29:19 PM  
sepuku2: Thanks a lot Lady Southern Tennessee woman. Are you French, Queer, Muslim, or a Yankee. Que? I suspect you are going to lose in the next school board election. Keep pushing the agenda.

You do realize it would, in fact, be possible to be all of those at once, right?

I bet just contemplating having to be on the same continent with a gay French Muslim living in, say, Massachusetts would trigger spontaneous combustion in the more frothy of our conservatives.

Ah, one can dream, I guess. One can dream.
 
2009-09-29 10:29:46 PM  
This place seriously needs to get a Religion tab. And one of them thermometer thingies with Atheist on one side and Fundie on the other.
 
2009-09-29 10:29:48 PM  
It's clear that we can't have schools appearing to endorse a group or religion. That's just common sense.

We now return you to the Doritos Classic Homecoming Game at the Verizon Stadium, brought to you by your friends at Williamson Ford "Where Great Deals are Born!"
 
2009-09-29 10:29:53 PM  
The Second Coming take s couple
http://tinyurl.com/yl3pas8
(copy and paste, NSFW)
 
2009-09-29 10:29:59 PM  

This goes to all of you on both sides of this argument

"Raising your voice is the next best thing to being right."

Demetri Martin
 
2009-09-29 10:30:34 PM  
Jesus is a power bottom.
 
2009-09-29 10:31:17 PM  
Rapmaster2000: zepplinrules: wow, fark.com is quickly becoming a Christian hate-site.

at least most places try to hide it more

You sound concerned.


not really, i couldnt care less about this website or the internet in general. thats what great about the internet, no personal relationships.
 
2009-09-29 10:31:58 PM  
zepplinrules: wow, fark.com is quickly becoming a Christian hate-site.

at least most places try to hide it more



When you shove your beliefs into everyone's faces, you get what you get. If you can't handle the backlash, maybe you should leave people the fark alone.
 
2009-09-29 10:32:44 PM  
i34.tinypic.com
 
2009-09-29 10:32:53 PM  
If I were religious, I'd be offended at the idea that God should give a flying fark about your football game.
 
2009-09-29 10:32:57 PM  
shanrick:
I agree. And the taxes on the churches holdings will put this country's economy right in about one day.


You really don't want that.
 
2009-09-29 10:33:17 PM  
zepplinrules: not really, i couldnt care less about this website or the internet in general.

You cared enough to share your incorrect observation with us for some reason.

lajimi: Maybe I'm at a loss not being a football fan but can someone explain to me....When did "cheerleaders" stop leading cheers and when did they become pole dancers in training?

Don't know, don't care, and God bless them for it.
 
2009-09-29 10:33:23 PM  
optras: I recall having prayers before games back in Southern Oklahoma. Then again, they also said "Merry Christmas" and we had "Easter Break." It made me uncomfortable.

Is this sarcasm?

If not, then you should add, "I have a penis. It makes me uncomfortable."
 
2009-09-29 10:33:25 PM  
zepplinrules: wow, fark.com is quickly becoming a Christian hate-site.

Fark is quick to point out hypocrisy. If the local Unitarian, Wicca or Muslim population showed up with quotes and symbols from their respective religions, the local Christians would freak out. You might even hear talk about reviving the Klan.

Christians in the flyover states are perfectly fine with respecting all religions and worldviews. As long, of course, as they are their own.
 
2009-09-29 10:33:37 PM  
zepplinrules: wow, fark.com is quickly becoming a Christian hate-site.

I went to Catholic school for 13 years and think the cheerleaders are being whiny coonts. An act such as what they tried to pull would never in a million years have crossed the minds of the cheerleaders at my high school.
 
2009-09-29 10:34:50 PM  
Sounds about right to me. Enjoy the football game and STFU. I don't like having commercials to buy a Prius shoved in my face. So I choose not to buy a Prius.
I don't go whine about it and ask for it to be taken off of TV.
 
2009-09-29 10:35:30 PM  
"The cheerleaders are not trying to push a religious cause, to shove religion down someone's throat," said local youth minister Brad Scott, who was LFO High's class president in 2004. "The cheerleaders are just using Scripture to show motivation and inspiration to the players and the fans."

The cheerleaders' intentions are not the issue. The use of public funds to support a particular religion are.

"I regret that we had to ask the LFO cheerleaders to change the signs used in the stadium prior to football games," Mrs. Reese states. "Personally, I appreciate this expression of their Christian values; however, as superintendent I have the responsibility of protecting the school district from legal action by groups who do not support their beliefs."

I respect doing the right thing despite her obvious prejudice. I would rather the superintendent of a public school not state her religious beliefs in a statement regarding a topic such as this. The proper thing to say is that she upholding her charge as superintendent of a school.

"I rely on reading the Bible daily, and I would never deny our students the opportunity to express their religious beliefs," she said. "I appreciate that our community has rallied in support of this LFO tradition."

Same thoughts as above.

"I'm totally against them doing away with it," Mr. Cobb said, adding that the cheerleaders' rights are being abused.

Ok, great. You're against it. Wonderful. Doesn't matter; the cheerleaders don't have any rights to abuse the distinct separation of church and state in this country.

"If it's offensive to anyone, let them go watch another football game," he said. "Nobody's forced to come there and nobody's forced to read the signs."

You're an idiot Mr. Cobb. Again, the issue is that this is a public school, not that people are offended by the signs. Even if you had an audience of zero, this country does not allow for such signage.

"Families entrust public schools with the education of their children, but condition their trust on the understanding that school activities will not purposely be used to advance religious views that may conflict with their religious beliefs," the system's release states. "As a result, the courts prohibit rabbi-led prayers at school sporting events, Wiccan posters in gymnasiums and reading the Quran over the school public announcement system."

Ding!

Mr. Scott said the "separation of church and state" has nothing to do with cheerleaders who are not "part of the state" and simply want to offer an inspirational message with signs they made on their own time.

They are not part of the state? Where in hell is Lakeview-Fort Oglethorpe High School anyway?
 
2009-09-29 10:36:18 PM  
zepplinrules: wow, fark.com is quickly becoming a Christian hate-site.

at least most places try to hide it more


Yeah, you'd think Christians would be less hateful...

I mean, look at Jesus. He was a power bottom! Even when he got pegged in his hands and his side, he was still giving it up with energy:

Eli, Eli, lema sabachtani!
(Eli, Eli, give it to me harder!)
 
2009-09-29 10:36:30 PM  
www.fugly.com

God bless cheerleaders.
 
2009-09-29 10:36:48 PM  
Pxtl: If I were religious, I'd be offended at the idea that God should give a flying fark about your football game.

I think this is a good portion of why muslims hate us.
 
2009-09-29 10:36:56 PM  
And no picture of the virgin cheerleaders - just an idiotic sign.
 
2009-09-29 10:37:22 PM  
These are the same girls that take it up the butt.
 
2009-09-29 10:38:13 PM  
"The cheerleaders are not trying to push a religious cause, to shove religion down someone's throat," said local youth minister Brad Scott, who was LFO High's class president in 2004. "The cheerleaders are just using Scripture to show motivation and inspiration to the players and the fans."

I've only known 2 youth ministers, and they were both banging the youth. This guy has got to keep the door open.
 
2009-09-29 10:38:14 PM  
www.aeolia.net

"Who am I? I am Susan Ivanova, Commander. Daughter of Andre and Sophie Ivanov. I am the right hand of vengeance and the boot that is going to kick your sorry ass all the way back to Earth, sweetheart! I am death incarnate, and the last living thing that you will ever see. God sent me."

/still gives me shivers up ma leg... ;)
 
2009-09-29 10:38:39 PM  
Weaver95: Hau Ruck: "If it's offensive to anyone, let them go watch another football game," he said. "Nobody's forced to come there and nobody's forced to read the signs."

No, the broke-ass and/or cheap parents can pay for tuition at a private, religious school if they want to do this. Then they can hang any of these signs they want. Until then, they get to realize they are in a public school and don't get to do shiat like this.

yeah! take THAT first amendment! DIAF!


1st amendment only counts if it doesnt butthurt farkers.
 
2009-09-29 10:38:52 PM  
s839.photobucket.comScience!
 
2009-09-29 10:39:27 PM  
Chariset: I'm sure they'd have been fine with it if the texts were from the Quran or the Book of Mormon. Right? If not, they could always go cheer at another football game.

In that case, they'd screech that the Godless heathens are trying to force their sinful hedonistic fake religious blasphemy on regular, decent people who will now be scarred for life.

I'm a right-wing Baptist who lives in the Bible belt, and I don't like this phony victimhood BS that some of the Bible thumpers are so fond of. They frequently cross the line with their pushing of their message, and polite society tends to tolerate it (or ignore it) to a degree.

Once someone asks them to ease up a bit on it because not every display is appropriate, the thumpers start up with the 'religious persecution' variant of the Fred Sanford heart attack routine.

It gets old.
 
2009-09-29 10:39:52 PM  
i learned along time ago, god doesn't care about hockey. so this must applied to all other sports. also a short time later i realized there was no god. which made the first lesson make more sense.
beyond that, i thought football was a religion unto it's self?
 
2009-09-29 10:40:41 PM  
zepplinrules: wow, fark.com is quickly becoming a Christian hate-site.

at least most places try to hide it more


Well, it's not like this isn't something new. You'll often hear the usual praise for catholic institutions (minus the church itself, or the pope) due to their view on science and religion.

Usually, all hate threads on Fark go like this:

I think _________ are a bunch of ________ ________ because they _________.

Or

I hate ___________ because ___________, unlike the _________ which is ___________.

Or, someone posts a random girl with a huge rack.

www.mariaozawa.org
 
2009-09-29 10:41:20 PM  
FireBreathingLiberal: f they changed the word, "God" [can I still print that??] to Allah and "Christ Jesus" to "Mohammad", there would be no complaints.The anti-Christians in the crowd are afraid of scimitars in the night if they complain about Muslims...and remain silent. Cowards all.
"That...that man" is Dear Leader, indeed.

Clueless and... priceless


Ok, I'll bite--what in that statement is untrue?
 
2009-09-29 10:41:45 PM  
The funny part is thinking of them saying "Babble" and "Jaysus" and getting all red in the face and pointing and spitting and then bouncing up and down and then doing the splits with a great big smile.
 
2009-09-29 10:41:55 PM  
lajimi: Maybe I'm at a loss not being a football fan but can someone explain to me....When did "cheerleaders" stop leading cheers and when did they become pole dancers in training?

Well, they tried working out differential calculus on oversized blackboards, but the short skirt and loamy loins, chalices fit for a god, barely covered by lycra...well, this is showbiz, and that's what the people want to see.
 
2009-09-29 10:42:00 PM  
Clan Xpy: Pxtl: If I were religious, I'd be offended at the idea that God should give a flying fark about your football game.

I think this is a good portion of why muslims hate us.


Are we sponsoring Israel's football teams?
 
2009-09-29 10:42:29 PM  
"If it's offensive to anyone, let them go watch another football game"

How about football games without cheerleaders?
 
2009-09-29 10:42:32 PM  
It's very bad sign that we have to force people to comply with what is right. We are failing to do the needed job in educating people why separation of church and state is so necessary. Religion is winning the war against a free and fair society.
 
2009-09-29 10:42:42 PM  
CygnusDarius: zepplinrules: wow, fark.com is quickly becoming a Christian hate-site.

at least most places try to hide it more

Well, it's not like this isn't something new. You'll often hear the usual praise for catholic institutions (minus the church itself, or the pope) due to their view on science and religion.

Usually, all hate threads on Fark go like this:

I think _________ are a bunch of ________ ________ because they _________.

Or

I hate ___________ because ___________, unlike the _________ which is ___________.

Or, someone posts a random girl with a huge rack.


Yeah, I wish for once we could have a civil discussion about orgone energy.

/something something jism baptism
 
2009-09-29 10:42:48 PM  
If religion were true, its followers would not try to bludgeon their young into an artificial conformity; but would merely insist on their unbending quest for truth, irrespective of artificial backgrounds or practical consequences.

-HPL
 
2009-09-29 10:43:02 PM  
Magnetar: The funny part is thinking of them saying "Babble" and "Jaysus" and getting all red in the face and pointing and spitting and then bouncing up and down and then doing the splits with a great big smile.

Well, that would be along of the lines of "Jesus, those are huge tits for a sixteen year-old girl", or "Jesus Christ, what an airhead".
 
2009-09-29 10:43:22 PM  
Let them have their preachy sign. All of those cheerleaders will be fat after they have their football boyfriends' five kids each anyway.

Also, "cheerleaders:"
i111.photobucket.com
 
2009-09-29 10:43:23 PM  
DanRankin: i learned along time ago, god doesn't care about hockey. so this must applied to all other sports. also a short time later i realized there was no god. which made the first lesson make more sense.
beyond that, i thought football was a religion unto it's self?


How can you know there is no god?
 
2009-09-29 10:43:39 PM  
maxheck: One of a zillion from Paradise Lost

"Better to rule in HELL than serve in HEAVEN. GO TEAM!!!"
 
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