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KN
2009-09-23 11:54:28 AM
gimlet: KN: I would not want to be a female student in his class, especially after reading this article. Greeeaatt a middle aged prematurely balding professor who thinks that a female student wearing a low cut blouse or asking a question is obviously just trying to attract him.
Oh, and if I was his wife, I would kick his ever loving arse.

I find it interesting that you dont like the truth..


I don't. You can think whatever nasty, dirty, inappropriate thoughts you may have. However, when you choose to act on those thoughts by say, publishing them in a national magazine, for instance, that's a whole different ballgame. Being a female student in his class would make me very uncomfortable. I wouldn't want to ask for help, I'd feel awkward wearing even moderately attractive clothing (like tight jeans or high heels or a tank top). Also, I don't want to pay to take a class where the professor won't take me seriously as a student because I have boobs.
 
2009-09-23 11:57:21 AM
Moderator: at80eighty: Moderator: 1. Link all potentially NSFW images

knowing the thread would end in that direction - why not mark the thread as possibly NSFW? Ive seen it been done before

While links may be NSFW, Threads can NEVER be.
NSFW images reported or discovered inline in a thread will always earn a posting ban.
It isn't a hard rule, nor it is non-negotiable.
Link the questionable ones and everything's fine.


I must have missed something good?

I was expecting far less discussion and far more pix.

Fark's gettin soft?
 
2009-09-23 11:57:25 AM
I wonder why it is that letting my junk hang out of my shorts never helped me with the lady-type professors... Must have all been lesbians. Yeah, that's it.

/couldn't possibly be anything else!
 
2009-09-23 12:01:16 PM
Barbecue Bob: Moderator: at80eighty: Moderator: 1. Link all potentially NSFW images

knowing the thread would end in that direction - why not mark the thread as possibly NSFW? Ive seen it been done before

While links may be NSFW, Threads can NEVER be.
NSFW images reported or discovered inline in a thread will always earn a posting ban.
It isn't a hard rule, nor it is non-negotiable.
Link the questionable ones and everything's fine.

I must have missed something good?

I was expecting far less discussion and far more pix.

Fark's gettin soft?


Soft, quite flacid indeed :'(
 
2009-09-23 12:03:34 PM
Either everyone went to lunch or they migrated to the bursting Swedish bra thread.
 
2009-09-23 12:04:25 PM
Meatschool: I wonder why it is that letting my junk hang out of my shorts never helped me with the lady-type professors... Must have all been lesbians. Yeah, that's it.

/couldn't possibly be anything else!


Ever consider that they just never noticed?

/yeah, it was cold in the classroom, that's it!
 
2009-09-23 12:04:48 PM
KN: gimlet: KN: I would not want to be a female student in his class, especially after reading this article. Greeeaatt a middle aged prematurely balding professor who thinks that a female student wearing a low cut blouse or asking a question is obviously just trying to attract him.
Oh, and if I was his wife, I would kick his ever loving arse.

I find it interesting that you dont like the truth..

I don't. You can think whatever nasty, dirty, inappropriate thoughts you may have. However, when you choose to act on those thoughts by say, publishing them in a national magazine, for instance, that's a whole different ballgame. Being a female student in his class would make me very uncomfortable. I wouldn't want to ask for help, I'd feel awkward wearing even moderately attractive clothing (like tight jeans or high heels or a tank top). Also, I don't want to pay to take a class where the professor won't take me seriously as a student because I have boobs.


The point is that he isn't acting on anything. He finds attractive young women that wear revealing clothing to be a perk of his job. I'll give you a hint: ever straight guy in the world does. He's an ass to say it like that, but he hasn't done anything except look at what these women are willingly showing.
 
2009-09-23 12:07:11 PM
Egalitarian: So here's a question for the men around here. It is a particular quandary of mine.

Just exactly how is an adult woman supposed to dress these days to catch a man without dressing like a total whore?

Ugh. My preferred wear is t-shirts and jeans, short hair and no makeup. But I'm informed, I need to dress it up if I want men to come a-knockin.


I would be after you in a heartbeat if you look halfway decent and dress in t-shirt, jeans, short hair, and no makeup. That's my type. That's what I look for.

Of course, how you look is one part of it. The other part of it is that you give me some sort of signal. Smile, say something, wave... Let me know that when I come talk to you, it's not going to be a wasted effort. I need to know you're interested-- even just a little-- before I'll risk invading your space.

Jerks will come on to every girl they meet, but most men need some signals. If you limit yourself to just the guys who approach you unbidden, you'll end up with a real asshole.

Short hair, t-shirt and jeans is just about the sexiest thing there is, in my book.
 
2009-09-23 12:10:09 PM
ZeroCorpse:

Short hair, t-shirt and jeans is just about the sexiest thing there is, in my book.


Yup...I agree.
 
2009-09-23 12:17:37 PM
When will people learn to stop telling the truth in public? Obviously, the male professors leer (in a purely professorial manner, I'm sure) at the big racks (and I guess 10% of them are checking out the male students). At least this is in England. If he was in the U.S., he'd probably be fired already.
 
2009-09-23 12:18:59 PM
Egalitarian: Just exactly how is an adult woman supposed to dress these days to catch a man without dressing like a total whore?

Select your bait for what you are looking to catch. It depends on the subset of men that you're interested in.

Also, if you have to change your clothing style to attract the men you want then you're going after the wrong guys.
 
Al!
2009-09-23 12:19:26 PM
GRANDGALACTICINQUISITOR: This is why we can't have nice things. What's "potentially NSFW"?

Look at the picture and ask yourself if every grandmother in the world would approve of it. If many would not, it is potentially NSFW.



Partial nudity is not nudity. That's like saying someone with an amputation is partially dead. Are these the same standards as what can be shown on TV or something arbitary?

There are various definitions for "partial nudity". If you are wondering if it is "partial nudity", it is NSFW. Always err on the NSFW side. And, technically, an amputated arm is dead. Therefore an amputee is partially dead. Though, by that reasoning, we are all partially dead because we are all sloughing dead skin as I type.

Who's work? Hell if you are on this site at work, at all, its counterproductive to you getting work done and therefore NSFW.

So if I were on my scheduled break using a work computer to Fark, I would be being counterproductive? Thousands of studies over the last 75 years would argue that employees who receive regular breaks are more productive. Therefore, Farking at work is actually possibly helping production.

/You've changed Fark. An certainly not for the better.

Please do not taunt Dynamite Monkey. Moderator keeps this place clean, and has been doing it longer than most people have been Farking. If Moderator has changed Fark, it happened years ago and no one noticed until now.
 
2009-09-23 12:19:57 PM
theoriginalslash: When will people learn to stop telling the truth in public? Obviously, the male professors leer (in a purely professorial manner, I'm sure) at the big racks (and I guess 10% of them are checking out the male students). At least this is in England. If he was in the U.S., he'd probably be fired already.

Not if he has tenure. Tenure trumps perv.
 
2009-09-23 12:19:57 PM
Something tells me that a woman's level of annoyance from a guy staring at her boobs or ass is inversely proportional to how tall and handsome he is.

Sorry ladies, there isn't something you can wear that attracts good looking guys but won't have the same effect on me. Wish there was, so I wouldn't have to deal with the whole glance-smile-get scowled at cycle.

Unless you're really stacked, in which case you can't hide it with anything less than a potato sack, there are plenty of stylish and comfortable things you can wear that don't let it all hang out. Dress professionally and you'll get taken seriously. Both men and women benefit from this. For women, it's more obvious since you don't get stared at, but for men it's more subtle. We don't have boobs to gawk at but the better we're dressed, the more people listen and obey. It also applies to college, I think. A well dressed guy is more likely to be considered a good student.

You have the right to be upset at the fact that women aren't taken as seriously as they should be, but keep in mind that the ones who do use their looks and their sexuality to advance themselves deserve most of the blame. And no, I don't think it's a fair deal for the rest of you.
 
2009-09-23 12:22:29 PM
*walks in*

Yeah, it's a BoobsThread™.

*leaves*
 
2009-09-23 12:30:40 PM
Al!: There are various definitions for "partial nudity". If you are wondering if it is "partial nudity", it is NSFW. Always err on the NSFW side. And, technically, an amputated arm is dead. Therefore an amputee is partially dead. Though, by that reasoning, we are all partially dead because we are all sloughing dead skin as I type.

Just as an aside, having been here awhile. A guideline for you youngins

No undertit, that'll get you on the wrong side of the mod quick
No nips, either screened through sheer fabric or other wise
No direct ass shot, even if its with a thong
No cameltoe (we covered that LONG time ago, much bannings ensued in that thread before HTML was stripped out of the entire thing)
Hard nips are okay, so long as it's not the obvious shot
No simulated sex, even the MS Paint porn fixes can get you a banning
No sex toys, unless its obvious the thread is about them and you avoid the obvious dick dongs and fake vag
No personal talk, cross talk is okay but none of that "You send me this and I send you that"....some of us walk a very fine line here having been like a rash over the system

In general, don't be like porkins and stray off target.
 
2009-09-23 12:35:35 PM
Egalitarian [TotalFark] 2009-09-23 10:04:56 AM
So here's a question for the men around here. It is a particular quandary of mine.

Just exactly how is an adult woman supposed to dress these days to catch a man without dressing like a total whore?

Sometimes I think the way young women dress is a nuclear arms race - the one who wears the least "wins" by getting the most male attention.

I don't feel comfortable showing acres of flesh. However I'm a pretty randy lady and I don't know how to visually advertise my ardor and prowess. So where's that sweet spot that attracts a certain amount of male attention without looking like a total hobag? Do I have to wear high heels and short skirts? Do I have to grow my hair out long? Do I have to wear tons of makeup?

Ugh. My preferred wear is t-shirts and jeans, short hair and no makeup. But I'm informed, I need to dress it up if I want men to come a-knockin.

easy, just wear a turtle neck sweater with *FARK ME* in big pink letters across the front. we'll get the idea....
 
2009-09-23 12:40:36 PM
ZeroCorpse: Of course, how you look is one part of it. The other part of it is that you give me some sort of signal. Smile, say something, wave... Let me know that when I come talk to you, it's not going to be a wasted effort. I need to know you're interested-- even just a little-- before I'll risk invading your space.

Jerks will come on to every girl they meet, but most men need some signals. If you limit yourself to just the guys who approach you unbidden, you'll end up with a real asshole.


I don't usually like to say it but - THIS

Most of the guys I've ever known who approach women unbidden were also assholes. They would put up with rejection really well because that's what they got most of the time. Either immediately or a few weeks/months down the line when the woman realised. They get more action than most other men though because they are willing to make an approach every time.

90% of us guys don't want to piss you off by getting into your space unbidden and neither do we want to be told to fark off 20 times a night. But give an actual hint (and I'm not talking about thinking very hard, we're not psychic either) and you'll be fine.
 
2009-09-23 12:47:11 PM
Every once in a while, my girlfriend will walk up, flash me, and exclaim "boobies!" I oggle, smile, and reply "woohoo!"

God bless her.

But honestly, many, if not most, women enjoy having their racks, or other smexy parts, appreciated by a discerning (or maybe not-so-discerning...) eye at least once in a while. I always get a kick out of chicks who dress like ho-bags then get their string-like panties in a twist when guys enjoy the view. Its kinda like how every now and again, I'll offer a favor strictly for the sake of sounding nice, then whoever I'm offering it to is like "oh, would you? that would be super," and I'm stuck. But its my fault, I set myself up. Same principal with sweater puppies; if you put them on display, you will accrue a viewership, and its not always going to be Johnny McHandsomechin.
 
2009-09-23 12:48:01 PM
abb3w: littlett's: I don't think you are supposed to admit looking down your students shirts.

I'm sorry, but the highly aesthetic mobile scenery is de facto one of the perks of being a professor. (Or IT support staff.) This applies to the opportunities for female professors to admire the occasional well-dressed male hottie as well. (Or for the bent to admire the same sex; whichever.)

So, what is the problem with having a frank discussion on the topic? Especially when the suggestion for the correct reaction is essentially "go home and shtupp your wife harder"?

Gramma: That concept is NOT lost on women. Never doubt that a woman knows exactly what she's doing when you can see down her top.

This depends on whether her brain cells are doing more than stopping the wind between her ears. I recall one Halloween party where I overheard one ditz complaining to a less-than-hot guy (who had admittedly been a bit unsubtle in his stares) that he shouldn't be looking at her, since she was only dressed to attract the attention of the hot guys.


OUCH-- that would have been devastating to me when I was young...now it would make me laugh like hyena!
 
2009-09-23 12:48:50 PM
mmm... pancake: ASexual Revolution: No Men Allowed

FTFY
 
2009-09-23 12:50:21 PM
I'm not saying that you are a ho, just that you are wearing the uniform of one.
 
2009-09-23 01:03:21 PM
FTA: Olivia Bailey, womens' officer for the NUS, said: "I am appalled that a university vice-chancellor should display such an astounding lack of respect for women.


I'm slightly-aggravated that some women see all physical admiration as "an astounding lack of respect."
 
2009-09-23 01:06:54 PM
karatekitten13: Wendy's Chili: I can haz attenshun now?

*flashes WC*

Feel better?


he may feel better, but now I'm jealous ;-)
BIE? (can't blame a guy for tryin')
 
2009-09-23 01:08:16 PM
Cottage Cheesecake: *sigh*

All these pics, and only one of you understands the term "perky". One gets the feeling that none of you has actually seen perky breasts, and that you believe any adjective describing them must mean "huge". Sorry to disappoint you basement-dwellers, but big boobs simply can not be perky. If you can hold a pencil under them, they are not perky. Perky = bouyant. Bouyant = light enough for gravity not to affect. That means big ones are right out.

Perky pics ftw.


While I do agree, implants can break your reasoning.
 
2009-09-23 01:09:19 PM
Arklop: FTA: Olivia Bailey, womens' officer for the NUS, said: "I am appalled that a university vice-chancellor should display such an astounding lack of respect for women.


I'm slightly-aggravated that some women see all physical admiration as "an astounding lack of respect."


I am sure that instead of looks, if men handed out money, they wouldn't be complaining...

yeah...its a fine line and double standards and whatnot...
 
2009-09-23 01:15:16 PM
littlett's: Kome: but is only as disrespectful to them as those individual women disrespect themselves by dressing in such a provocative manner.

So, what is your definition of provocative clothing? How tight, how much leg, or how much cleavage makes one too provocative?


festus: Obvious troll is obvious.

Well that is a new one. Usually by this time I'm being called an AW.


And deservedly so, based on your profile.
 
2009-09-23 01:18:51 PM
VonAether: Denise Milani

Chloe Vevrier


Some guys just post pictures. You go that extra mile by giving names to the faces, thus allowing others to find more pictures.

It's like teaching a man to fish. But with boobs.
 
2009-09-23 01:23:48 PM
The UK used to be fun until the Taliban took over.
 
2009-09-23 01:26:39 PM
The Icelander: Some guys just post pictures. You go that extra mile by giving names to the faces, thus allowing others to find more pictures.

It's like teaching a man to fish. But with boobs.


I like to do my part.

I have many more pics, but they're further towards the NSFW category.
 
2009-09-23 01:26:58 PM
Arkanaut: I disagree with the professor. If they're too big they're really more of a sag than a perk.

Agreed. And if the orbit of the Earth shifts when she rolls over in bed, surgery ought to be considered.
 
2009-09-23 01:27:58 PM
VonAether: Hi, guys. Is this where I post big boobs?


Denise Milani


Chloe Vevrier


I have no idea who this is.


As I said. Earth. Orbit. Shifts. Surgery.
 
2009-09-23 01:33:04 PM
TrixieDelite: As I said. Earth. Orbit. Shifts. Surgery.

Every time a woman gets breast reduction surgery an angel commits suicide.
 
LKM
2009-09-23 01:36:37 PM
Wow, that's just funny!
 
2009-09-23 01:36:54 PM
The Icelander: TrixieDelite: As I said. Earth. Orbit. Shifts. Surgery.

Every time a woman gets breast reduction surgery an angel commits suicide.


What a sad way to look at that. My wife used to have 36 DDD. She would come home with an aching back and ya know, the older they get, the saggier they get. I'm all for reduction surgery to be honest with you.

/likes a and b cup sizes the best
 
2009-09-23 01:38:33 PM
Union of students??
 
2009-09-23 01:39:27 PM
steklo: /likes a and b cup sizes the best

A good C for me. Anything more and yes, it can be wear and tear as you get older.

Eventually they look like an egg on a nail
 
2009-09-23 01:39:43 PM
As a university professor who gets to work with a lot of hot post-grads, I'm getting a....


Damn, I hate being unoriginal.
 
2009-09-23 01:39:56 PM
The Icelander: Every time a woman gets breast reduction surgery an angel commits suicide.

I know. And there are A-cups in China.
 
2009-09-23 01:40:04 PM
B thru D is my pref, but I'll take any and all if the girl they're hanging from is otherwise attractive to me.
 
2009-09-23 01:45:03 PM
GRANDGALACTICINQUISITOR: If anyone still would care to peruse some fine chesticles see link below.
Probably SFW but apparently NSFF (new window)


I see from the last 15 or so pics you've sampled my photobucket album.

Thanks for returning the favor.

Enjoy (NSFF, new window)

This too (NSFF, new window)
 
2009-09-23 01:47:20 PM
pix.motivatedphotos.com

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bigpapadaddy.files.wordpress.com
 
2009-09-23 02:04:13 PM
littlett's: Kome: but is only as disrespectful to them as those individual women disrespect themselves by dressing in such a provocative manner.

So, what is your definition of provocative clothing? How tight, how much leg, or how much cleavage makes one too provocative?


This.
I'm in the DD range so something like a simple tank top pretty much needs to be a turtle neck for me to not be popping out. It's hard to find dresses that aren't very revealing and you pretty much have to stick to a boatneck or scoop neck to avoid a major cleavage display. Not everybody wants their tits checked out. When they're big it's hard to find clothes that show less.
Littlet, today I am with you. What is the arbitrary measurement that keeps a woman from showing "too much" and "seeking attention"?
It's total balls.

 
2009-09-23 02:06:50 PM
Huh. Some of my images were removed. I guess I missed the memo on whats "Safe for Work."
 
2009-09-23 02:08:28 PM
bookmark for later....

/I'm not to proud to admit it
 
2009-09-23 02:09:23 PM
nuclear_asshat: Huh. Some of my images were removed. I guess I missed the memo on whats "Safe for Work."

Redact that. They're back!
 
2009-09-23 02:11:04 PM
wack wack wack!
 
2009-09-23 02:13:06 PM
The Dread Pirate Robertson: steklo: If I want to look at an actress that looks like a horse, I'll go to the stables.

face looks like a foot
 
KN
2009-09-23 02:16:16 PM
superoogie: KN: gimlet: KN: I would not want to be a female student in his class, especially after reading this article. Greeeaatt a middle aged prematurely balding professor who thinks that a female student wearing a low cut blouse or asking a question is obviously just trying to attract him.
Oh, and if I was his wife, I would kick his ever loving arse.

I find it interesting that you dont like the truth..

I don't. You can think whatever nasty, dirty, inappropriate thoughts you may have. However, when you choose to act on those thoughts by say, publishing them in a national magazine, for instance, that's a whole different ballgame. Being a female student in his class would make me very uncomfortable. I wouldn't want to ask for help, I'd feel awkward wearing even moderately attractive clothing (like tight jeans or high heels or a tank top). Also, I don't want to pay to take a class where the professor won't take me seriously as a student because I have boobs.

The point is that he isn't acting on anything. He finds attractive young women that wear revealing clothing to be a perk of his job. I'll give you a hint: ever straight guy in the world does. He's an ass to say it like that, but he hasn't done anything except look at what these women are willingly showing.



He is an educator at a college, not a construction worker working on the Playboy Mansion. His comments are completely inappropriate. Honestly now, would you want your daughter taking this man's class? His talk about how seeing those cute young college girls spices up his love life with his wife... sort of makes you think his wife isn't who's on his mind at the time, doesn't it? Now again, do you want her 40-something professor thinking about your 18 yr old daughter while he's having sex? (and don't forget, you're paying him for the privelege of having him "teach" your daughter.)
BTW where in the article does it say he only ogles scantily clad students??
 
2009-09-23 02:23:32 PM
KN: He is an educator at a college, not a construction worker working on the Playboy Mansion. His comments are completely inappropriate. Honestly now, would you want your daughter taking this man's class? His talk about how seeing those cute young college girls spices up his love life with his wife... sort of makes you think his wife isn't who's on his mind at the time, doesn't it? Now again, do you want her 40-something professor thinking about your 18 yr old daughter while he's having sex? (and don't forget, you're paying him for the privelege of having him "teach" your daughter.)
BTW where in the article does it say he only ogles scantily clad students??


This is all true, but it's likely true for all college professors, and in fact pretty much all men. we just try not to say it out loud too often.

It doesn't have to mean that the student he's ogling is an object to him, or that he'll treat her as such because of the way she looks, or that she'll get a worse education because he likes she way she looks or anything like that. It is what it is - a frank admission that men like to look at hot young things when they flaunt themselves. In fact we're pretty much incapable of acting any other way.

I have no doubt he will be pilloried for this though. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
 
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