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(CBS13.com - CBS Sacramento)   Police department discovers that their fancy new mobile command center worth $500,000 is illegal to drive in their state   (cbs13.com) divider line 99
    More: Fail, California law, vehicles, roadways, John Williams, police, axles, San Joaquin County Sheriff, Ohio  
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2009-09-22 10:56:55 PM  
So who is going to give them a ticket?

\\in b4 great police work Lou
 
2009-09-22 11:07:01 PM  
They can't hire someone to drive it to Ohio and back for under $18,000? Where do I send a resume?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2009-09-22 11:12:36 PM  
davidphogan

I think union rules or something require three of you: Three deputies would have to drive it to Ohio -- a distance of 5,000 miles -- to get the vehicle fixed.

Would you and two friends be willing to do it for $300 per day each? (Payable in California IOUs. Good as cash, except if you want to trade the IOU for goods or services, deposit it in a bank, or use it to pay government fees.)
 
2009-09-22 11:38:29 PM  
ZAZ: I think union rules or something require three of you: Three deputies would have to drive it to Ohio -- a distance of 5,000 miles -- to get the vehicle fixed.

That's a big part of why I mentioned it. Why does it take 3 people to drive across the country?
 
2009-09-22 11:39:42 PM  
oh man i remember one christmas my parents bought me the gi joe mobile command center and you'd better believe i drove that biatch straight through the gate of my sister's my little pony playset and parked it right on top of its fountain, state laws be damned.
 
2009-09-23 12:10:47 AM  
davidphogan: That's a big part of why I mentioned it. Why does it take 3 people to drive across the country?

Only thing I can think of is they have a department regulation that says it has to be manned by three people any time it goes out, like fire departments have for fire trucks.
 
2009-09-23 12:26:41 AM  
CruiserTwelve: davidphogan: That's a big part of why I mentioned it. Why does it take 3 people to drive across the country?

Only thing I can think of is they have a department regulation that says it has to be manned by three people any time it goes out, like fire departments have for fire trucks.


Not sure if it applies here but there are regulations over how many hours a driver can legally drive. So if a driver can only drive for 8 hours then another one will take his place and then another after him. But not sure if that's the case here or not.
 
2009-09-23 12:33:31 AM  
Why did I know before clicking it would be the Central Valley.

California's Central Valley, we make Arkansas look smart!
 
2009-09-23 12:35:09 AM  
Three deputies would have to drive it to Ohio -- a distance of 5,000 miles -- to get the vehicle fixed.

Ohio isn't 5,000 miles away from California.
 
2009-09-23 12:35:53 AM  
scruffy1: Not sure if it applies here but there are regulations over how many hours a driver can legally drive. So if a driver can only drive for 8 hours then another one will take his place and then another after him. But not sure if that's the case here or not.

Good point. I wonder if that thing is a commercial vehicle?
 
2009-09-23 12:40:09 AM  
haemaker: Three deputies would have to drive it to Ohio -- a distance of 5,000 miles -- to get the vehicle fixed.

Ohio isn't 5,000 miles away from California.


It is if you hit every single donut shop between California and Ohio ;)


I think they really meant round trip total.
 
2009-09-23 12:48:43 AM  
SpinStopper: I think they really meant round trip total.

I'm sure they did. Just customary to say "and back" when quoting the distance of the entire journey.

By the way, how are they going to get it to the California border?
 
2009-09-23 12:59:39 AM  
haemaker: By the way, how are they going to get it to the California border?

Pretend to be taking it out to be washed and hope they're long gone before Capt. Stillman comes by to show it to his date ;)
 
2009-09-23 01:01:14 AM  
SpinStopper: Ohio isn't 5,000 miles away from California.


I think they are including the miles to go to Las Vegas on the way.
 
2009-09-23 01:03:13 AM  
Driving directions to Columbus, OH, from Stockton Ca, as per Google maps.

2,409miles - about 1 day 11 hours
 
2009-09-23 01:08:54 AM  
5000 miles? 11 days? What are they doing sailing a schooner to Europe?

L.A. - NYC

2,791 miles. 1 day 17 hours
 
2009-09-23 01:12:38 AM  
TommyymmoT: Driving directions to Columbus, OH, from Stockton Ca, as per Google maps.

2,409miles - about 1 day 11 hours

They never said Ohio state. They could mean the USS Ohio which is in the pacific ocean right now. Or maybe Ohio, NY.
 
2009-09-23 01:15:39 AM  
haemaker: Ohio isn't 5,000 miles away from California.

It is if you drive back.
 
2009-09-23 01:30:48 AM  
Really? No Stripes reference yet?
RV from Hell! :)

SpinStopper: It is if you hit every single donut shop between California and Ohio ;)


I think they really meant round trip total.


LOL beer->nose->lap.
//my laptop is never actually on my lap, exactly for that reason.
 
2009-09-23 01:35:35 AM  
Since when have cops been concerned with following traffic laws?
 
2009-09-23 01:50:14 AM  
TommyymmoT: 5000 miles? 11 days? What are they doing sailing a schooner to Europe?

L.A. - NYC

2,791 miles. 1 day 17 hours


I assume they're including the time it takes to repair the thing.
 
2009-09-23 01:51:20 AM  
generalDisdain: Really? No Stripes reference yet?

See my earlier post from 12:59:39 AM. Maybe a little too subtle ;)
 
2009-09-23 02:14:43 AM  
SpinStopper: haemaker: By the way, how are they going to get it to the California border?

Pretend to be taking it out to be washed and hope they're long gone before Capt. Stillman comes by to show it to his date ;)


i236.photobucket.com
 
2009-09-23 03:15:11 AM  
$11,000 for three cops' salaries for 11 days? That means each one of those guys is making about $83,000 a year. God damn. Do they not have any lower paid deputies they can send?
 
2009-09-23 03:16:19 AM  
Since when have the gang members (new window) enforced the law on members?
 
2009-09-23 06:36:47 AM  
Epsilon: $11,000 for three cops' salaries for 11 days? That means each one of those guys is making about $83,000 a year. God damn. Do they not have any lower paid deputies they can send?

They're out of the city, during off-shift hours and presumably a weekend's involved too. Time-and-a-half rules will be in play. Double time-and-a-half may be involved, depending on the contract.

Mid 50s at 1.5x = mid-high 80s.
 
2009-09-23 06:37:46 AM  
images.wikia.com

FTFA: The two-axle vehicle weighs about 2,060 pounds too much under California law, and the manufacturer will have to add another axle to hold up the weight and make it street-legal.

They just need to modify it. Fine work Lou.
 
2009-09-23 06:38:50 AM  
FTFA: officials are searching for cheaper methods of performing the repairs.

Um... Just change the law? That'll cost less than $18,000 to amend the law to say "this police vehicle is the exception" or even easier, have an executive order from the governator.

/why even bother, you're the cops anyways, who's going to stop you?
 
2009-09-23 06:42:27 AM  
dj maskell: /why even bother, you're the cops anyways, who's going to stop you?

Pretty much this. Since when do cops give two shiats and a fark about following their own laws?
 
2009-09-23 06:48:08 AM  
TsukasaK: dj maskell: /why even bother, you're the cops anyways, who's going to stop you?

Pretty much this. Since when do cops give two shiats and a fark about following their own laws?


Since Sunday May 3rd 1993 at 10:13am EDT, duh. Didn't you get the memo?
 
2009-09-23 06:48:45 AM  
SpinStopper: haemaker: By the way, how are they going to get it to the California border?

Pretend to be taking it out to be washed and hope they're long gone before Capt. Stillman comes by to show it to his date ;)


Came for the Police Academy reference ... found it ... left satisfied. Awsumn job ;)
 
2009-09-23 06:49:26 AM  
dj maskell: FTFA: officials are searching for cheaper methods of performing the repairs.

Um... Just change the law? That'll cost less than $18,000 to amend the law to say "this police vehicle is the exception" or even easier, have an executive order from the governator.

/why even bother, you're the cops anyways, who's going to stop you?>


Who else thinks these guys are just looking for a reason to take their new toy out for an extended road trip?
 
2009-09-23 06:50:00 AM  
There's no one in the state of California that can slap an axle under that piece of crap? It's called a tag axle. Doesn't seem like that big a deal.
 
2009-09-23 06:50:09 AM  
CruiserTwelve:
scruffy1: Not sure if it applies here but there are regulations over how many hours a driver can legally drive. So if a driver can only drive for 8 hours then another one will take his place and then another after him. But not sure if that's the case here or not.

Good point. I wonder if that thing is a commercial vehicle?


Commercial or not, safe working laws would still apply. The deputies are working, so they are covered and cannot be expected to drive for longer than is considered safe. And think of what it'd cost if they filled up on Krispy Kreme, nodded off, and rolled this beast.
 
2009-09-23 06:50:48 AM  
mikemc3: SpinStopper: haemaker: By the way, how are they going to get it to the California border?

Pretend to be taking it out to be washed and hope they're long gone before Capt. Stillman comes by to show it to his date ;)

Came for the Police Academy reference ... found it ... left satisfied. Awsumn job ;)


i171.photobucket.com
 
2009-09-23 06:52:04 AM  
mikemc3: SpinStopper: haemaker: By the way, how are they going to get it to the California border?

Pretend to be taking it out to be washed and hope they're long gone before Capt. Stillman comes by to show it to his date ;)

Came for the Police Academy reference ... found it ... left satisfied. Awsumn job ;)


You mean Stripes!??
 
2009-09-23 06:52:57 AM  
I'm sorry, is this article supposed to be a plot from the Simpsons?? After reading the article I half expected too see a Chief Wiggim (and no, don't know the correct spelling for his name) reference ;-)
 
2009-09-23 07:02:09 AM  
BigBooper: Who else thinks these guys are just looking for a reason to take their new toy out for an extended road trip?

Hmm, if their destination were more exciting than Ohio, I'd agree with you. I mean, yeah, Vegas is along the way, but you don't need to go to Ohio for that...
 
2009-09-23 07:02:12 AM  
mikemc3: SpinStopper: haemaker: By the way, how are they going to get it to the California border?

Pretend to be taking it out to be washed and hope they're long gone before Capt. Stillman comes by to show it to his date ;)

Came for the Police Academy SuperTroopers reference ... found it ... left satisfied. Awsumn job ;)


Moran.
 
2009-09-23 07:03:47 AM  
I've driven a lot of large RVs (which is basically what this thing is) and if they're overweight on an axle and the manufacturer will fix it under contract, it'd come up with some excuse to get it done too.

And as for three deputies going vs. the one actually needed, if you worked in the county sheriff's office and could manage two weeks on a road trip, wouldn't you do it?

And what's the deal with quoting the salary the three are getting paid? The state is paying them no matter where they are or what they're doing
 
2009-09-23 07:09:23 AM  
A $500,000 mobile donut warmer? If this vehicle is "critical to emergency response in San Joaquin County," as "officials say", how did they ever perform emergency response in the past?

Methinks our governments are getting too used to throwing around large sums of money under the flimsiest of excuses.
 
2009-09-23 07:11:03 AM  
dofus: And what's the deal with quoting the salary the three are getting paid? The state is paying them no matter where they are or what they're doing

This sounds like over-time pay to me. Others will have to fill in for them while they're gone as well.
 
2009-09-23 07:20:04 AM  
TsukasaK: dj maskell: /why even bother, you're the cops anyways, who's going to stop you?

Pretty much this. Since when do cops give two shiats and a fark about following their own laws?


When they want to make a big bunch of overtime for a ROAD TRIP!
In a really biatchin Winnebago, with police markings.

That expense estimate isn't even in the ball park by the way.

That article, and video weren't worth a damn.
The article says it cost $500k, and the video says it cost $1million.

In the article it says they're gonna "add another axle" (umm, yeah, about that...).
In the video, they say they're gonna "make it lighter".

How so? Throw out some of that Flintstones era "technology" that they have inside?

Actually, they're just going to redistribute the weight.
You can't just "add an axle".
Morons.

UPDATE (new window)
 
2009-09-23 07:21:08 AM  
Why am I not surprised that this happened in Stockton?

/UOP alumni
 
2009-09-23 07:24:20 AM  
Sounds like an episode of Reno 911. "Blah blah deliver the vehicle, okay who wants to volunteer?" "Road trip!" "me me me oooh me!"

Seriously, its too bad folks in my city were not more upset about the cops getting an APC. Theres little to no gang activity, and they will never ever need to crash thru the front of a crack house in a hail of small arms fire.
 
2009-09-23 07:25:21 AM  
Wilbur Fratblat: There's no one in the state of California that can slap an axle under that piece of crap? It's called a tag axle. Doesn't seem like that big a deal.

Ooops, I forgot about those.
In any case, they could just get a special use permit.
The same kind that allows you to move a 5 bedroom house down the street.

These guys are just going out of their way too piss away money, into their own pockets.
 
2009-09-23 07:26:15 AM  
There's no one in the state of California that can slap an axle under that piece of crap? It's called a tag axle. Doesn't seem like that big a deal.

Bring it to Jessie's Monster Garage. He will know what to do.
 
2009-09-23 07:29:21 AM  
TommyymmoT: You can't just "add an axle"

Actually, you can and it's not that difficult. It's called a tag axle. It's not part of the drive train.

Next time you see a Greyhound bus or a 45' RV, check out the last set of wheels. They not dual and may not even have an actual axle that goes from one side of the vehicle to the other. Some dump trucks have them in front of the driving dual wheels.
 
2009-09-23 07:33:27 AM  
can it lift off and build SCVS though?
 
2009-09-23 07:34:27 AM  
Relevant to his interests:
imgur.com
 
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