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2009-09-22 01:11:19 PM
printboy: Remember these names;

Cloward-Pivens
George Soros
Barry Soetoro



Do you enjoy being looked upon as an idiot? Because the mindless BS that comes out of your mouth is staggering.

Printboi, one of the biggest fools on this entire site.
 
2009-09-22 01:12:45 PM
This is a must-watch if you want your doom and gloom.(new window)

He's not predicting and end of anything (other than maybe Obama's presidency in three years), but I think he rightly calls out the utter bullshiat about the markets and the stimulus.
 
2009-09-22 01:17:33 PM
wh40k.lexicanum.com

What the Future may look like.
 
2009-09-22 01:24:23 PM
The Doom and gloom club, ya gotta love them. People like this have been predicting this sort of crap for a very long time. It started with the idiots with the sandwich boards that proclaimed that the end of the world was near - their idea of "near" and mine are extremely different - to the entire genre of "documentaries devoted to world destruction. Those usually start with - it's not IF it happens, it's when. I'm not going to start stocking up food for a disaster in the making that is 1500 years away.
 
2009-09-22 01:25:49 PM
www.csallergy.com

THE END IS NIGH!!!


/hot as the barrel of a gun of a NWO foot soldier
 
2009-09-22 01:27:58 PM
Shaggy_C: The question, of course - are we learning fast enough? Given the current rate of depletion of world oil fields coupled with the lack of innovation in terms of new vehicular technologies, I am extremely worried about where we will find ourselves in ten to twenty years. All the emphasis seems to be on increasing efficiency, which, contrary to popular belief, will only increase total energy consumption as it becomes more readily available.

Wrong question. When faced with a problem we've shown the ability to survive and adjust to any serious survival issue. So get out of the way and just die while the rest of us work to survive.

/been told I was going to die of oil wars, famine, nuclear wars, etc since I was born
 
2009-09-22 01:28:34 PM
wolvernova: He's not predicting and end of anything (other than maybe Obama's presidency in three years), but I think he rightly calls out the utter bullshiat about the markets and the stimulus.

Everything that he says in that video could be equally applied to any of the previous post WWII presidents, except Reagan.
 
2009-09-22 01:30:01 PM
Shaggy_C:
The question, of course - are we learning fast enough? Given the current rate of depletion of world oil fields coupled with the lack of innovation in terms of new vehicular technologies, I am extremely worried about where we will find ourselves in ten to twenty years. All the emphasis seems to be on increasing efficiency, which, contrary to popular belief, will only increase total energy consumption as it becomes more readily available.


Do you know what "energy efficiency" means?
 
2009-09-22 01:31:15 PM
Cagey B: KaponoFor3: Obvious tag? That's a pretty much guaranteed result of population growth combined with decrease in water supplies. When you have politicians and Courts protecting the Delta Smelt rather than allowing that water to be used by cities and agriculture, then yes, things are going to get bad and the government isn't going to be helping it all.

Tell me, how many acre-feet a year do you think federal environmental injunctions have cost water users? I'll give you a hint: Hannity is overestimating.


Not familiar with Hannity's estimate, but the injuncitons are not just limited to the San Joaquin river. Look at the Klamath River, Snake River and agriculture ground water users in Idaho, and any other place in the intermountain west where whisky is for drinking and water is for fighting. Injunctions and water rights as they exist in the west are basically inheriantly interwined.
 
2009-09-22 01:31:22 PM
Accent: Shaggy_C:
The question, of course - are we learning fast enough? Given the current rate of depletion of world oil fields coupled with the lack of innovation in terms of new vehicular technologies, I am extremely worried about where we will find ourselves in ten to twenty years. All the emphasis seems to be on increasing efficiency, which, contrary to popular belief, will only increase total energy consumption as it becomes more readily available.

Do you know what "energy efficiency" means?


Here's probably referring to Jevon's Paradox.
 
2009-09-22 01:33:04 PM
Maybe we should listen to this guy. Look at where ignoring naysayers got us last year around this time.
 
2009-09-22 01:33:13 PM
Accent: Do you know what "energy efficiency" means?

Apparently you missed my point. (new window)

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2009-09-22 01:34:06 PM
bravian: Wrong question. When faced with a problem we've shown the ability to survive and adjust to any serious survival issue. So get out of the way and just die while the rest of us work to survive.

Survive? Yes. Do so with the same amount of largesse to which we are accustomed? That is the big fear.
 
2009-09-22 01:35:18 PM
vort3xxx: wolvernova: He's not predicting and end of anything (other than maybe Obama's presidency in three years), but I think he rightly calls out the utter bullshiat about the markets and the stimulus.

Everything that he says in that video could be equally applied to any of the previous post WWII presidents, except Reagan.


That video was more about the economy than Obama. Wasn't meant as a rip on him, but a trend predictor with a good track record unloading on just the overall situation and these bankers. Don't worry, I am not trying to insult the dear leader.
 
2009-09-22 01:38:00 PM
ObamaTIME!
 
2009-09-22 01:40:27 PM
Here is a little bit of news for the entire world....If the US goes down, we take everyone down with us. Sleep well.
 
2009-09-22 01:45:52 PM
altom1: Here is a little bit of news for the entire world....If the US goes down, we take everyone down with us. Sleep well.

Nah, there a couple of tribes in South America and a few in Africa that will get along just fine without us.

/popping popcorn to enjoy the end of the world as we know it in style.
 
2009-09-22 01:47:41 PM
I think this guy is wrong on one big point He says India and China are living at US standards as a whole. I would argue that India and China both have cities that are at US standards, but the rural areas are poorer than any poor in the US. And China's growth is due largely to them being communist; want 8% growth? Okay, the governement will make it happen, but eventually this cooking of economic books will catch up.


/Not an economist.
 
2009-09-22 01:48:13 PM
I don't think this is too far off. It seems like we've been forestalling the inevitable with band-aids for a LOOOONG time. Some day the weight of all that debt and unfunded mandates is going to come crashing down.

/semi-prepared...
 
2009-09-22 01:53:43 PM
Antimatter: What the Future may look like.

Dibs on the Power Armor.

/although the sanguination would suck
//but i would live a long time
///look out for Tyrinids
 
2009-09-22 02:00:01 PM
stuhayes2010: And China's growth is due largely to them being communist; want 8% growth? Okay, the governement will make it happen, but eventually this cooking of economic books will catch up.

Because they are communist? Hardly. It's because they have a piss-poor system to protect human rights, a ton of people, and a government willing to invest heavily in making sure that they are capable of doing the same jobs people do elsewhere for far cheaper. They allow their people to serve as serfs for American and European companies, with the long-term plan of building themselves a properous society out of it.
 
2009-09-22 02:05:20 PM
Shaggy_C: Peak oil, baby. We've already started the resource wars.

You guys preach the same thing every year.

"Omg, doom is coming"

*5 years later*

"It's coming, I swear, get ready!

*15 years later*

"I sear, Anarchy is just around the corner...Hello?....Is anyone still listening?....Give me attention..."
 
2009-09-22 02:08:20 PM
HeadLever: Not familiar with Hannity's estimate, but the injuncitons are not just limited to the San Joaquin river. Look at the Klamath River, Snake River and agriculture ground water users in Idaho, and any other place in the intermountain west where whisky is for drinking and water is for fighting. Injunctions and water rights as they exist in the west are basically inheriantly interwined.

I should have been more specific about my question, which was about Delta smelt-related injunctions. Water sure is a fun topic in the West, isn't it?
 
2009-09-22 02:09:59 PM
Approves (pops)
 
2009-09-22 02:12:05 PM
Doomsayers are a historical constant.
 
2009-09-22 02:13:41 PM
Cagey B: HeadLever: Not familiar with Hannity's estimate, but the injuncitons are not just limited to the San Joaquin river. Look at the Klamath River, Snake River and agriculture ground water users in Idaho, and any other place in the intermountain west where whisky is for drinking and water is for fighting. Injunctions and water rights as they exist in the west are basically inheriantly interwined.

I should have been more specific about my question, which was about Delta smelt-related injunctions. Water sure is a fun topic in the West, isn't it?


I live in new england, so depending on which town I live in, my water either comes out of the ground or from a reservoir.

/has never experienced a water shortage
 
2009-09-22 02:15:16 PM
wolvernova: That video was more about the economy than Obama. Wasn't meant as a rip on him, but a trend predictor with a good track record unloading on just the overall situation and these bankers. Don't worry, I am not trying to insult the dear leader.

I can dig that my response was a little narrow. I suppose what I was trying to say (but failed at) is that this guy's analysis sounds an awful lot like an end times preacher of the Jack Van Impe vein. His records predicting a near impending war with russia in 1978 were a hoot, and his facts sounded about as damning as the guy in the video that you presented. Every year that he's wrong, he starts a new media campaign on another subject. This guy's just writing his meal ticket by being shocking.
 
2009-09-22 02:18:00 PM
i35.tinypic.com
 
2009-09-22 02:19:01 PM
Antimatter: What the Future may look like.

i38.tinypic.com
 
2009-09-22 02:19:26 PM
我一的,歡迎我們新的中國霸主
 
2009-09-22 02:20:08 PM
Shaggy_C: Peak oil, baby. We've already started the resource wars.

What do you think of LNG as a substitute for energy?
 
2009-09-22 02:20:25 PM
I Said: I'm stocking up on chocolates, whipped cream, champagne, wine, beer, scotch, rum, vodka, condoms, dried fruits, water, and hard drugs.

What? You think if the apocalypse comes you and your rifle are going to go all mad max and survive? And even if you do, you want to be among the few survivors in a barren wasteland?

Sorry, I will welcome the apocalypse in a drug-and-alcohol-fueled-orgy.


This - but why worry about condoms?
 
2009-09-22 02:22:27 PM
DeadZone: 我一的,歡迎我們新的中國霸主


获得知识组织准备暴露
 
2009-09-22 02:23:37 PM
Came for Fallout, leaving happy.

Gary?
 
2009-09-22 02:23:41 PM
printboy: DeadZone: 我一的,歡迎我們新的中國霸主


获得知识组织准备暴露


Ching chong chop suey.
 
2009-09-22 02:23:51 PM
In other words, subby, we'll become the next Mexico.

/been sayin' it all along
//it's the Republican wet dream
///we're well on our way
////history will record these as "interesting times" as we make the transition
 
2009-09-22 02:24:53 PM
Lord_Dreadlow: I Said: I'm stocking up on chocolates, whipped cream, champagne, wine, beer, scotch, rum, vodka, condoms, dried fruits, water, and hard drugs.

What? You think if the apocalypse comes you and your rifle are going to go all mad max and survive? And even if you do, you want to be among the few survivors in a barren wasteland?

Sorry, I will welcome the apocalypse in a drug-and-alcohol-fueled-orgy.

This - but why worry about condoms?


"Dear diary!
There I was in the 6th month of my reign as Supreme Lord of North East Texas. Having cowed the populace into utter submission I was having the time of my life. Then my dick rotted off. If it's not one thing, then it's another. Darn."
 
2009-09-22 02:27:57 PM
printboy: 获得知识组织准备暴露

Rozumiem, co zrobił tam
 
2009-09-22 02:28:58 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

As I mentioned in a previous thread on this subject
 
2009-09-22 02:30:50 PM
ceospeaks.files.wordpress.com
 
2009-09-22 02:31:55 PM
elchip: Shaggy_C: Peak oil, baby. We've already started the resource wars.

We just need to learn to make everything out of silicon and aluminum, because they make up 60% and 15% of the earth's crust, respectively. Iron makes up another 6% or so.

We're learning to make plastic substitutes from plants, fuel from algae... I am not as paranoid as you.

\just because you're paranoid doesn't mean you're wrong


The peak oil argument forgets that as prices increase, the amount of economically accessible oil goes way up. Also ignores new drilling tech. The end point is the same, but the slope of the decline in
production is hugely important as people don't change habits until their balls are already in the vice.

/the world has been going to hell for thousands of years now and yet we're still not there
 
2009-09-22 02:32:08 PM
As long as I keep a month a freeze-dried food, and a fire arm, I'll be able to hole-up and wait for most of humanity to starve to death, then scavenge my way into old age.
 
2009-09-22 02:32:56 PM
Shazam999: What do you think of LNG as a substitute for energy?

Natural gas reserves would be depleted very quickly if we moved to it as a single source of fuel to replace oil, though I think it may have some use as a transitional product.
 
2009-09-22 02:33:52 PM
I Said: I'm stocking up on chocolates, whipped cream, champagne, wine, beer, scotch, rum, vodka, condoms, dried fruits, water, and hard drugs.

What? You think if the apocalypse comes you and your rifle are going to go all mad max and survive? And even if you do, you want to be among the few survivors in a barren wasteland?

Sorry, I will welcome the apocalypse in a drug-and-alcohol-fueled-orgy.


Don't forget the black pepper. For a very long time the price of black pepper was the same, ounce for ounce, with gold.
 
2009-09-22 02:33:55 PM
I Said: I'm stocking up on chocolates, whipped cream, champagne, wine, beer, scotch, rum, vodka, condoms, dried fruits, water, and hard drugs.

What? You think if the apocalypse comes you and your rifle are going to go all mad max and survive? And even if you do, you want to be among the few survivors in a barren wasteland?

Sorry, I will welcome the apocalypse in a drug-and-alcohol-fueled-orgy.


I don't think you understand the concept.
 
2009-09-22 02:33:56 PM
Shaggy_C: Shazam999: What do you think of LNG as a substitute for energy?

Natural gas reserves would be depleted very quickly if we moved to it as a single source of fuel to replace oil, though I think it may have some use as a transitional product.


How much LNG do you think is out there?
 
2009-09-22 02:35:15 PM
"The future will be a total disaster, with a collapse of our capitalistic system as we know it today, wars, massive government debt defaults and the impoverishment of large segments of Western society"

Socrates - 440 BC
 
2009-09-22 02:37:22 PM
"The future will be a total disaster, with a collapse of our capitalistic system as we know it today, wars, massive government debt defaults and the impoverishment of large segments of Western society"

-Nostradamus
 
2009-09-22 02:39:59 PM
Shostie: Anyone who tries to predict the future will be wrong on most, if not all, counts.

On the other hand, anyone who tries to predict the past will be right on most, if not all, counts.
 
2009-09-22 02:40:29 PM
Shazam999: How much LNG do you think is out there?

A huge number of cubic feet, but how much does that translate into compared to barrels of oil? Hard for me to say, I'm not that familiar with it.
 
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